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  1. And information integrity and being able to, an anchor of truth in a sea of different versions of reality is incredibly valuable and potentially provides a different avenue to reach people with a message that will resonate with them and will pique their curiosity. But in addition to that, it's just involve young people, right? It's like this is exactly the kind of thing that young people I will get engaged in and just expose them to their first lightning transaction and see what happens. I guess my message is just, you know, don't give up on your neighbor and let's try to fight back with truth. And that's just what's driving me.

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  2. Democracy is currently available in Spanish soon in English Much more about the details of the ins and outs of how our voting system works. It'll be out in English soon. And basically, let's not let Clown World take so many people that just haven't heard Bitcoin in a way that makes sense to them. And I'm a huge fan of sound money. And I'm sure that many people will be reached with that. But I think we're kind of reaching the limits of the sound money argument.

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  3. I'm still expecting the Guatemalan criminal justice system to issue an arrest warrant for Satoshi Nakamoto. So anytime now. But the point is, this is one of the things that saved people from going to jail and for the whole voting system to crash just because a few people misconfigured some hardware. That could be, if that's what finally destroys your democracy, wouldn't that be ironic? And here's a tool that can keep that from happening.

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  4. That was able to create files in the future, but then plug them into Bitcoin six or eight hours before. And so either the criminal justice system provides evidence of time travel, or now because of Bitcoin, they can show that there was just an honest mistake that explains this situation.

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  5. Bitcoin is saying that none of these documents exist prior to the moment in time when the tables started doing their work. And so we were able to prove is that what actually happened was that the contractor delivered the scanners around the country, made a mistake when they configured the time zone of the scanner. The scanners just had the wrong time zone. And that's why you see Two lines. And this is the kind of mistake that lands people in jail. But for some reason, the contractor made this mistake and obviously it was hard for them to prove that mistake. But now what matters is that the strong line over on the right here that's claiming that a lot of most of the files were created eight hours after the election, that line disappears when you contrast that to Bitcoin. So that would mean that someone had access to a time machine.

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  6. And the number of documents before the 18 hour, which is 6 p.m., versus on the left, on the right, sorry, people are seeing the heat map of what Bitcoin is saying. And it's one single column. And so this is, I kid you not, the main argument of election tampering is what you see on the left. They're saying that there were documents created prior to 6 p.m. on voting night. And therefore that proves that certain documents were created prior to the voting tables doing the counting, thereby proving that there was election tampering. And the way that they found this miraculous evidence was that this is what they said to the press in their press conference. When you right click the JPEG file and you go into properties, you will see a created by a metadata field. And we plotted those and we can see that some of these created by metadata fields were prior to polls closing. However, that's very concerning for many, many, many reasons. But then when you look at the information on the right,

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  7. Let me see. So we, as an auditor, obviously we publish the report. We have 270-odd page report, which is available for free download on our website. You can see we've published this latest version in March of 2024. And at the very end of this, we can show you basically what the criminal justice department of Guatemala that was basically weaponized by the losers of the election. What people are seeing on their screen are two boxes. On the left, these are called heat maps. On the left, you see three lines around certain hours. This is what the election authorities claim were the time and date of the creation of the files. And so there are two very obvious lines, but then there's a weaker line here.

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  8. This is just one thing that happened in Guatemala. And by the way, the election authorities in Guatemala were in part able to avoid going to jail because of this. There was a criminal accusation against the election authorities for election tampering. And because of, I'll share my screen again. This is correct.

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  9. Look, what's your plan on election night when a million fake documents hit your Twitter feed and Facebook feed and all of this? What is your plan? Do you have any anchor to reality? Or are you just going to say no one can have access to any of the data? Because if you say that, that's just worse. If you hide the election information, then that's just going to... I mean, you're going to get nuked. And so it's telling those folks in the driver's seat that are usually like, you know, very well-meaning Gen Xers or Boomer moms who are driving their kids to soccer practice. And they're already starting to sweat bullets and have sleepless nights. So just tell them like, here's your anchor.

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  10. First of all, I'm sick of people saying Bitcoin fixes this because Bitcoin doesn't fix anything. It's people using Bitcoin that fix cloud world. And B, they say Bitcoin is, what is it, the lifesaver or the boat? The life raft. It's like there are so many people that are about to get hit by the tidal wave of Clown World come November in the US. They need this life raft. Just ask them.

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  11. No idea what's going on behind the scenes have never coded anything and are very intimidated by all of this, not to mention artificial intelligence. This is probably going to be the worst selection by far in terms of reality and fakeness and what the amount of damage that this is going to do to people and communities everywhere. And so your county clerk, whoever is in charge of your registry of your neighbors, they are probably not ready for the tidal wave of insanity that is barreling towards them and will hit them no matter what happens in November. And so basically throw them a lifeline. They say.

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  12. And I'll say doing this work has obviously forced me to work with a great many people who work in elections. And there are a lot of volunteers that power elections and a lot of really good-hearted, well-meaning people who, if it weren't for them, we would never have been a democracy in the first place. lower your time preference when you talk to them and don't see them as your enemy and like you're the problem with clown world they're not they're they're trying to do their best in an extremely dysfunctional system and more often than not people working at elections Do not have any technical background.

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  13. So it's the counting. And that's where it's beautiful to understand that the analogies with Bitcoin of how the nodes achieve consensus in that you have all of the witnesses, all of the interested parties there when the transactions are happening, they see for themselves they can check that all the rules are being followed and then they sign on the block. If the transactions aren't followed rules aren't followed then your node will recognize that. So it's just bringing that back to people and empowering communities to do don't trust verify.

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  14. Deduct for themselves and retrace that path to how you actually got to that. And you could have a system where you're like, you don't necessarily are using pen and paper, even though for us in Guatemala, that just, you know, there's a lot of people that will never trust a machine. And so your trust in the voting system basically boils down to the lowest common denominator of if it's ham, that just allows most people to trust it. Like there's no way people can't see that as real. In our case, we also solve for the double spend problem by putting ink on people's finger. And it's indelible ink. It'll last for a few days. And so, all right, let's say you were able to dupe someone into believing your idea is not yours and you went to vote in another district. Props to you, man. All you did was game one vote. What you need to protect is the ability for someone to digitally print themselves into a million voters, which the paper does allow for that as well.

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  15. And then the argument, I believe, has been that especially for something like the US where you have something like 150 million people voting on a single day. And so the argument is the counting, right? It's how quickly could you generate the block? With all the transactions. And the argument was 150 million transactions in a single day. There's no way we could compute that without the help of machines. And that's when the compute went into the digital realm. Now, that's not inherently evil and wrong. What's inherently evil and wrong is not giving people then the paper backup to

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  16. You can use, I've seen models where they use the voting machine to allow you to click on the party person, whoever you want to vote for. And then they print out your individual ballot. And then you can take that ballot and personally deposit it into a backup paper system.

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  17. Bitcoiners about the best way to run a proper voting system. And I'm just concerned also that electronic voting, e-voting, is coming to Guatemala. I've seen a lot of people make that push. And I believe that would be the end of our system if I can turn all 9 million voters in Guatemala into Bitcoiners, then I'd say we have a fair shot at beating the rest of the world. And in general, Central America has many things going for it where we will, the fact that we're kind of last in most of the other races for human progress means that we have an advantage in the only race that matters, which is adopting Bitcoin.

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  18. My mission in life is to get Central America to be the first region in the world to adopt Bitcoin. That's 50 million of us. And I just constantly think of what can I do to help accelerate that and knowing my own voting system having worked there, I just love how it works. And so it's, to me, it's I saw a path to teaching Guatemalans about Bitcoin through our voting system, but then also teaching the world about the Guatemalan voting system and the characteristics that our voting system has, which make it the best voting system in the world because instead of trusting anyone else, it's literally your neighbor who gives you your ballot and then you mark it. And then you put it in the little bag and then your neighbor's the one that counts it in front of everyone. And that's just in this decentralized way. And so it's teaching Guatemalans about Bitcoin through democracy, but then teaching.

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  19. I think it's useful to know for yourself as a Bitcoiner whether you live in a county where the election system enables you to don't trust verify or for you to find out that you live in a county where it's don't verify trust the election outcome. And I would bet that in the 10,000 or so counties around the United States, there's got to be a few where there's a don't trust verify philosophy. Because this isn't rocket science. No one's going to Mars with this thing. This is literally just all I want to do is see the results. I'm not even here to fight you on who won. All I care is that I can look at the data and I can prove to myself that one plus one equals two. And that's it.

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  20. And so there I just say reach out if you live in the county. Step one is just go visit your county clerk and ask them, hey, I'm a bitcoiner. Let's pretend like I want to audit the election and I come here day after the election in November and I just ask using a Freedom of Information Act request using the law and my rights as a citizen to have access to the registry. Let's pretend like I'm a person that cares about that and I ask for access to all of the election documents. What would I get? Would I get the primary source data that's built by the voters and the people running the election centers? Or do I get some kind of secondary data that some machine spewed out and that I'd have to try?

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  21. The same kind of system. Panama has elections and the Dominican Republic have elections as well. And so if anyone wants to audit those elections, please reach out. You can find me on Twitter, you can find our effort on Noster. I'm sure we can include some of that link later. But we want to do this. Now, so it's a little tight for those elections, but come November for the US elections. Generally what I understand in terms of how the election system works in the US is you have 50 states that all 50 have different election laws. And then within those states, you have county clerks who I think more often than not are the ones responsible for implementing the election law. And so it depends on which state and which county effectively allows anyone to have access to the primary source data that's produced on election days.

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  22. Sure. So again, just for mind, what I lead is digital witness, the election auditing piece of this, which kind of like brings together all of the pieces to do this. We use the work of simple proof to make sure that our documents are trustworthy. And then we partner with Stackwork to allow our users to do this. People can reach out to simple proof. Their website is simpleproof.com. You can watch the documentary that tells the story of how this happened in Guatemala. And I'm sure they are open to receiving inquiries. Regarding our work as election auditors, you know, the next election in the hemisphere is Mexico. So if there are any Mexican bitcoiners watching this or hearing this, I would like to do this in Mexico in June. However, the timetable at this point is so tight that I don't know that it'll be possible. Mexico turns out has the essential

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  23. Have these elections and they provide us the opportunity to reach people that they need to find the don't trust verified philosophy. And all of that energy that clown world is using to pit us against each other, we can use that to actually reach people with Bitcoin. And when people that distrust elections discover Bitcoin, I think they discover hope. Because the option that Clown World gives them at the moment is just hate your neighbor. And I am concerned that a lot of people hate their neighbors right now. And if we could just get them to love Bitcoin, then I think democracies will prove to adopt Bitcoin faster than autocracies and dictatorships.

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  24. That is needed to do an audit. And that's the key, right? I'm very passionate and proud to be Guatemalan. And I believe the Guatemalan voting system is effectively the best voting system in the world. People say, oh, democracy, this, democracy, that, but they don't understand that not all democracies are created equal. Not all democracies allow a citizen to don't trust, verify their own election. And so I'm a little concerned that as Bitcoin as we've kind of like given up on democracy. And I'm not saying I'm not imploring you to believe in democracy. I don't think you should. That's up to you. But I also don't think we should allow dictatorships or autocracies to have an advantage over adopting Bitcoin. I think democracy

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  25. Exchange for their work. My message is we should run full nodes on elections. And the tools are ready to do this as long as you live in an election system, a voting system that cares to provide you with the primary source information.

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  26. By hand. And so all I need to do as a human user is read the numbers, input the data, click done, and boom, I just earned two points. And those points just so happen to be Satoshi's that. I can redeem, but in order to redeem, I would need to learn how to generate a lightning invoice. And so we did these jobs, these data inputs over 3 million times. Our end result, I have the final data here, we did a total of 7.7 million OCRs with machines, so machine readings. We did 1.7 million human jobs. We rewarded 33 million sets and the total number of data points was 2.8 million. That was just for 2023. But we also got information for Guatemala's elections from 2019 and 2015. So we actually audited three separate elections over 450,000 documents. And our users earned over 66 million Satoshis.

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  27. In the United States, have more than 9 million voters, but Guatemala has more than 9 million voters, and that is then turned into $25,000 per election. And we have six elections. We had 150. Inside each one of them is anywhere between 25 to 40 individual data points that are handwritten. Of course, we attempted to read these things using machines and we were successful about 70% of the time. So most of the numbers you're seeing on your screen were read by machines. But 30% of the data was a failure. And that's where we needed humans to actually go through the process. And so here I have the stack work environment that was set up for us. And all you need to do is literally just look at the number with your phone, input the data, and then afterwards, so maybe your folks are seeing this, I have a snippet of something that says CNN 000. And obviously this is a scanned image of something that was written.

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  28. Than someone that's already a suspect of the state or a young person and just expose them to their first lightning transaction in exchange for doing auditing work. And so going back to what I showed you earlier in terms of the example. So basically what this turns into is this is an OCR problem, an optical character recognition problem when you have to go through millions of these documents that have handwritten digits corresponding to individual political parties and they're in contain the results. Like I said, this is not tallying individual ballots. This is tallying the coin joins that occur at the 25,000 tables. That means that in our case in Guatemala, we have 9 million voters. So for anyone saying, oh, you guys, it's a small election. It's like, well, I don't know how many counties.

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  29. Election results and gamify the auditing portion because we believe that the don't trust verified philosophy that is at the root of Bitcoin. If we bring that to elections, we can expose people that have concerns about elections and young people. Those are the two primary populations of people that showed up to help us do this work. And I can't imagine a better group of people that's basically better primed to grok Bitcoin.

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  30. Sure. So, first thing you're seeing on our screen is our top 10 users. So, this is like, okay. Yeah, some of the users do a lot of work. You can see our top number one user earned $385,000 satoshis for their work. It was about two weeks of nonstop data entry that this person did, along with a few others. And so what this means is now we can remind people every election cycle how many Satoshis you earned in 2023 by just being an election auditor by gamifying this it turns elections into an opportunity to reach young people with an interesting way of caring about elections. And of course if they then want to redeem those Satoshis, then they've experienced their first lightning transaction. And that's my main message to Bitcoiners that are listening is we really want to replicate this in other elections where you can work with the official

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  31. Like that is enough to make anyone want to do something else. That's where we came with our partnership with Stackwork, who built a custom workflow to adapt to what we needed.

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  32. But again, even if someone hacked you and was able to put the wrong information, A, they would have had to do it in a very, very small window of time. And B, you still have the paper trail so you could prove that election tampering occurred, which is very helpful, right? Instead of just point fingers at each other. This is basically the layer one of what happened that allowed us as an auditor to trust the information that was being shared. And I was mentioning our work focuses on young people and what we've believed was we need to make a gamified version of auditing because these documents are boring. The only thing that people care less about than monetary theory from 100 years ago is doing grunt work of just data entry of digits.

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  33. The whole point is right now elections that rely on paper ballots and paper results are by considered by most respectable computer scientists as the most trustworthy elections that you will find. Paper ballots and paper totals and audit trail than anyone can use to get to the actual results are the safest way to carry an election. It's when those documents merge with the internet that things get crazy. If you jump from paper to digital, if at the start of that you start through the filter of using Bitcoin as your witness of the original, then it doesn't matter if AI, someone with artificial intelligence creates a million copies, you can always use your attestment, your witness data to Bitcoin as the way to differentiate the signal from the noise.

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  34. There's like 1% of an attack surface, which is effectively that 25 minute time frame that you pointed out. But even if they take advantage of that, which would be, we could go into the quantum computing that they would need to really, you know.

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  35. And so And there's a paper trail with the original that also should be there, right? So the point here is this is not the panacea that will eliminate election fraud, but it makes it so that 99% of the attack surface is gone.

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  36. And so if someone was able to get, to doctorate and alter a document and get it into the database that was published to the internet, then what that person has done is a crime, A. But number two is there is immutable temper evidence proof that that crime was committed and all you have to do is find any one of these people that signed the original document and call them to be a witness on the stand. Also, all of these people who signed this document, they all took photographs of the original with their own device.

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  37. On the left, I have the exact same, but you may notice that over here, down by over here, there's 100. Yes. And then over here, so basically I altered this document. And so if this happened, now if we have time, I could just obtain the hash, the Shat 256 hashes of both of these documents and cryptographically prove that they are not the same.

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  38. Yes. So, I mean, I'd say invite them over to go into the really nitty gritty of it. But effectively, that's what is published here. So the best criticism against this that I've heard is, well, but they, you know, how do you know that the JPEG file that you showed wasn't tampered with fire, right? And that's an excellent concern. And to that, what I would say is now I'm going to show you my screen and actually show you an altered document of that same one.

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  39. In this transaction back in June 25th at 924. And so therefore, there is a transaction in the past that includes that SHA-256, which you can then just plug in. And for people that

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  40. And so for those that are listening, what you're seeing now is one final root hash that is an end result of a series of mathematical hashing operations that all prove down to the exact information mathematically and cryptographically that is sent to Bitcoin. So then, for example, you bump into this note that says probably a Bitcoin transaction. So you can take that information and you can plug it into your node. Or, for example, you can go into Mempool, include the transaction ID. And then ask to see the details. And you'll see that this information, this hash, was included here.

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  41. Within those 10 minutes to reach every block, you basically fill up the timestamping protocol with as many hashes, as many JPEG files that you received within those 10 minutes as you want. It could be 10, it could be 10 million, it could be 100 trillion, like literally any amount of data can be hashed into one final root hash, and that is what's included in the opera turn transaction that's sent to the Bitcoin blockchain. And so then they include the information as to what time that block was confirmed and provide you download access for the original file, which you can see here.

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  42. And that's where those that are watching this on the screen will see a very obvious yellow button that appears on this official election results website that when you click on it, it takes you to a website called Simple Proof. And what simple proof did was effectively build a government tech solution for this problem powered by open timestamps. It's a Guatemalan startup tech startup. And what they have is essentially they always write down at what moment they receive the document. Immediately they obtain the SHA-256 hash of that document that they received. They then added to the OpenTime Stamps protocol, which I'll briefly say is kind of like you send transactions to Bitcoin every 10 minutes.

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  43. Included this little blue button that shows you that document that I was previously showing you as an example. But again, the question would be, how do you trust that election documents aren't being tampered with throughout the election night and potentially later?

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  44. And if anyone wants to look at this, you can go to tr.gt. That's the website. It's the preliminary results website. And the authorities decided to publish all hundreds of thousands of election documents online and show these documents to whoever wanted to see them like we've done in Guatemala for decades now. And for folks watching my screen, I just input the same table number 21, now it's showing you the results of that voting table and you can go by district, by whatever, you can go hammer into specifically your one little table where you could check your vote and you can see, oh, here are all the votes, but it shows you a database and you're like,

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  45. Happen in Guatemala both in June and in August, we prepared the machine and essentially were able to be ready as soon as the documents were made public and were ready to hash them to Bitcoin, but we're also surprised because the election authority decided to listen to our recommendations from 2019. We had presented a lot of information on how to improve the election system and how they could use this tool themselves. And to our surprise, and maybe now I'll share my screen again. But to our surprise and great luck, the national authorities of Guatemala, for the first time in the history of the world, decided to use Bitcoin in this way. And sorry, I'm just going to try to find this real quick up here in my tabs. Essentially, this is the website.

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  46. Motivate them to continue to do the work, but I just failed. However, again, you can always wait for a few years and elections are always clown world. It will always go back into HyperDrive. You know, I did a bunch of research and attended a fair number of Bitcoin events, particularly the Human Rights Foundation's event in Miami in 2021, where I met some folks from Stackwork who are a company that are a lightning company that enable anyone that has hyper growth issues to use their systems to develop repetitive tasks on a marketplace and then pay users or allow users to earn sats in exchange for that work. And so this was just a match made in heaven. And so this year, or rather at this point, last year, in 2023, when the elections...

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  47. On an audit on documents, on official election documents. The first thing we did and the first thing anyone should do is timestamp all of that information to Bitcoin because you could prove then that anyone could replicate whatever your process was because they could prove that the information, the data that they used is the same that you used from that point in time. Therefore, eliminating all possibility that you could be accused of election tampering. And so in 2019, we did this, but we failed miserably at achieving kind of the mass of users that we needed and the work to achieve this because we just made a bunch of mistakes. But really, when the authorities came out with the results, all of our volunteers, or the majority of our volunteers kind of died off. And I was trying to find ways to

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  48. Of data, thereby kind of carbon dating digital information. Famously actually in the recent emails revealed through the Craig Wright case where we learned some of what Satoshi Nakamoto's more private beliefs were, one of the things he shared was that the use of the time chain for this purpose was something that he did envision. So this is just a coincidence that we are using the time chain in a way that at least you can go back all the way to Satoshi Nakamoto and more recently Peter Todd and the Open Time Stamps Protocol is attempting to use the time chain in a voluntary manner for node runners. So what this means is you can use Bitcoin as an anchor for digital information. Going back to what I was saying in terms of our election audit, before unleashing the internet.

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  49. On the Bitcoin time chain or the blockchain. I will caveat, I highly respect folks that believe that Bitcoin is only money, and I highly recommend researching the details on how open timestamps works, specifically Operturn, because this is all prunable information. The difference between the work that we did and some of the work that's being done that's causing such concern is that all of our information is basically optional for nodes to run. They can always prune this information, but nodes that do choose to include operturn data can include the open timestamps protocol, allowing anyone to anchor some piece of data to the Bitcoin blockchain as an independent digital notary or witness, a certain piece.

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  50. By the election authorities, at least Guatemala, where I'm from, that is technically treason. So a lot is on the line if when you publish these documents. And so I realized that I needed something to be able to prove that I never tampered the documents myself. And this is where Bitcoin really shines. And we found this tool that was built by Peter Todd, a Bitcoin core developer who I highly recommend everyone research and understand the things that he's built. One of the things he's built is the open timestamps protocol. And what this does is it uses the op return function within a node. So a node runner can utilize the operturn function to include a piece of data into any transaction. And that information is included.

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