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“For me, my next thing is I keep on fighting the case. Of course, that's the main goal. But now as I run the foundation with Violet and the club, we are running a developmental programs, which is the main goal. That's where we want to see ourselves making sure that we build these humans. We make sure that a great athlete and their great future, you know, they have a great future. They are going to be those great leaders in future. So for me, that's the main goal.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They can run in seconds, they can run with me, they can train with me, but competitively, I hope they do something different, swimming, golf, tennis, squash, badminton, you call it, even if you want to go to motorsports, it's fine, they can do that.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, I don't like it for them to be in a sports that I've done and then do the sports that I've done, how I've been treated in the very same sports. As there are women, I don't want them to go through that. But if they want to run, I'll definitely welcome that. I'll help them to become the champions that they want to be. But at the moment is that I hope they don't do arthetics.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm hopeful that's what I'm teaching to my kids, as well as now I'm a parent. Those kids, they teach me how to be a good parent, they teach me how to love, they teach me how to care, how to appreciate, how to accept all those things. But most important thing, they teach me how to make them happy. You understand? But what I'm going to do is to make sure that I support my kids in anyhow does not matter what. And I'm going to allow them to explore themselves. I'm going to allow them to be who they want to be.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Should I care about the 2% that is going to tell me you are a man, a two percent that's going to tell me you are not women enough? No, 98% is telling me, Custor, you look beautiful. We like you the way you are. That should motivate you. That means when you are rejected, that's where you turn that into positivity because it's just that small negative thing that can just turn things into wrong. But for me, I cannot allow that. It makes me feel good. It makes me feel present. It makes me feel valuable. It makes me feel that I matter the most because people talk about me, even if they talk bad, I don't really care because I know what I stand for.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“For me Think for me, I get motivated by rejection because when you reject me, it shows that I'm the best in the game. There's something good I'm doing about myself because sometimes people, they're scared of rejection. For me, I like being rejected because it helps me build myself. It helps me go work hard. It helps me go improve whatever I need to improve in life. It helps me to also want to be the change to bring change. Also, it helps me to treat people with respect, dignity. It helps me how to love, you know, how to care, you know, and how to support. It does not mean because I'm being rejected by two people. Two persons in the world that reject me, it means nothing to me. I'm being loved by 98.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Think when you are in a situation like this, you're going to need strong love and support. You're going to need people who appreciate you, people who will make you feel special, people who make you feel your existence means a lot. You understand? And most of the time when we go through these times, you find yourself alone, you find yourself isolated, you find yourself in a space where you can't even communicate with anyone. You understand? And that leads to a mental problem, mental disturbance where you start thinking of even taking your life and all doing that. But if you are surrounded by people that you love, basically if your wife or your husband or it may be, and that love and the support that you get, it strengthens you, it keeps you. Going, it makes you to feel like there's still a reason for you to live.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Me, I see begots because there's nothing happening. It's just all about talks, talks, talks, talks. But we as women, we need to just be there for a picture to be part of it. But when it comes to us making decisions, no. It's backwards. We're moving backwards. There's no improvement.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Are not moving forward because when it comes to that, especially in women, we are always suppressed. People suppress everything that women do instead of allowing women into sports to lead, allowing women into everything, maybe political or anything. We are not given opportunities to govern, you understand. Only thing that we're being given is just to be in the mix. It's all about gender equality based on the number of women that should be in. We're not given authority. We're not given a chance to showcase that we as women, we can be the change as well. We can do as well as men. For me, I think if we are given that opportunity to do that, I'll see a movement.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's for me, it would be unfair for me to talk on behalf of trans in a community. I don't have a problem with trans community. I love them. I love them as my own. But at the end of the day, we need to have a definition between. We draw a line between biological and transition. It explains itself. And I can't go further than that. But I support them. I think they're special. I think, of course, they should be included in sports. And if you talk about regulating, I can't say anything about how to regulate because I don't know how to do that. But what I know from the bottom of my heart, I support them. I love them. And I think they should be included in sports. Those who think that the best in regulating, they need to sit down with trans community and discuss the issues around. Than disrespecting them”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's never going to be a good idea because you can't categorize women. Why categorizing women? They must go start with categorizing men by their size, by their height, you know, by their length of their arms and all those things. If they can do T1, 210, 220, I'll respect them because they're cowards, they always come after women because we as women, we are not designed to be great. We are designed to carry babies. We are designed to cook for them. We are designed to iron for them. That's how they define us as women. Just because now we're coming into spots, we're coming and equivalent to them. We're doing great things. We break in records. It's a problem. So it should get into their mind to say, if we say in sports is for all, do that. And if you want to regulate, come, do sanction events.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, but why should we protect women's categories? That's my question. What's the reason behind protecting women's category if we say sports is for all women Regardless of women, you are considered a woman. Don't come here to me with biology telling me because of you have high testosterone, because you have low estrogen or you have uterus, you don't have valopian tube. That does not make me lesser women”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We, as women, we should define that. They must allow us to come in, have discussion, for us to have a say as women, not them getting to a final decision to say, this is what women should be considered. This is how women should look like. At the end of the day, men and women, we come with our own differences. But one thing that I know is that we are all human. We are all here for one purpose, one common goal is to entertain people in sports. Sports is made for entertainment. Nothing else.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“All of us generic advantages. So that means when you are a different woman, you are not women enough. But when you are a different man, you are mean enough. You get what I'm saying?”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Think there's no differences when it comes to that because we all build differently. If you look into sports, only men should be the ones who are gifted, should be the one who embrace their genetics, should have all this supernatural powers. But then women, when you're born with your differences, may be high testosterone, it may be whatever it is. There's something wrong about. At the end of the day, sports can never be fair. Sports has never been fair because we all come from different backgrounds.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Because it's always about men thinking that women don't belong instead of sports. It's always about, you know, men trying to paint a picture of how women should look like based on them. So that should stop. This is the modern era where women are involved and they've allowed women to partake into sports. They should start respecting women's sports. They should start allowing women embrace their bodies enjoy sports. So for me, that's what I can say. But till women come together, we as women come together, fight for what is right, make sure that we stand for one another. This nonsense will stop.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The battle still continues. We still fight for diverse inclusivity. We still fired for what is right. But at the moment, we know that a Supreme Court may appeal. They have a right to do that. We will just wait for that. If they take you to the high chamber, we still do the same thing. We still continue on fighting for what is right, but making sure that we rectify these mistakes where men rule women's sports.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, we once pass on, we greeted each other, but he's acting like a fool. So he's a grown-ass man that needs to start understanding how to respect women, how to treat women with respect.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“When people are threatened by women's success, that's what they will do. You understand? Because at the end of the day, I don't know what his agenda can't answer on his behalf. But at the end of the day, he needs to go work his brains. You understand? He needs to start thinking like a human because at the moment, I don't know what he thinks he's doing. I don't know what he thinks. He tries to prove to people to say you're supporting women, you know, women's sports. He's not doing that. If he wants to support women's sport, he must step out of that position. And whoever that is in the boat, those two women that are in the boat that are board members, let them run the show and see what they will do for women. That was I can say at the moment to him. But my point is, I'll always ask that question, why is it so important to him to regulate women's sports?”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Do that because I fight for what is right, you know, IWF need to start learning how to respect people, how to respect human. I think first before you can do any regulations, you need to look at human rights, you know, first. You need to treat people with respect and dignity. And then for me, my main purpose and goal is to make sure that no one has to go through whatever I went through. People should be respected for who they are. People should be accepted for who they are. You understand? For me, that's the only reason to make sure that those who cannot fight for themselves, those who cannot voice out, those who are not vocal enough, you know, I fight for them. And it's my purpose. It's my responsibility to make sure that all those young girls are protected.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Usually now women are running times close to men times now as we speak. You see at women's 1,500 they're running 349. I can't run even close to that time. I couldn't run close to that time. But you're telling me I have advantage. It just shows you that when people are discriminatory, people are racist. People are focused on one part of the world to destroy they will do that. And for me, I always raise a question to say why regulate women's sports, you understand? If we embrace genetics, why embrace men genetics only? Right, we're going to get.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm not on that Twitter at the moment, but I think it's all about just saying to people to say, look, people sometimes are just crazy. They make up things that they don't even understand what they're doing. But obviously in terms of that, I was just showing that the research these people, you know, Are saying they've done the research, that's not good enough research because if you're saying a woman with high elevated testosterone, you know, have an advantage, there's no advantage because even if the results, you look at the results, times and everything, we don't even run close to men's type.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's nonsense. There's nothing as such as that. It's just a makeup research because testosterone, to be honest, does not play any role in any performance because why I say so. If you, especially genetically, if you're born with it, it's elevated. It's just elevated because based on their studies, because you have the disorder or whatever they call it. It's just there in your body does not play any role because if it played a role, why as women adoremeth us, we can't run 141?”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It felt great. I was happy. I remember, I appreciated what Dudi Chan did. I was like, you know what? If I had courage, you know, like that, I'll say, yeah, I could have saved a lot of lives out there. And for me, when that happened, I was like, you know what? I'm just going to go with the flow. You know, I stopped taking the medication and then I go back to the drawing board. Then I start training hard and I told myself, you know what? From now on, because I know these people are still going to go back to the court. I'll make sure that everything that I touch, I destroy.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Course, there are times where you feel like what the hell am I doing? Why am I even doing this? Because it does not make me happy. Because remember for the longest, I was never happy. I was just doing it because I want to run.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Always make sure that I make sure that if I touch something, I finish it. For me, if I have to go run with this thing, I'll make it work. Even if it's difficult, but I'll make it work.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I wanted to compete. The only thing that the only reason for us to take the medication, it was because we wanted to do 2012 Olympics. And after that, the option was for me to walk away. And for me, I was like, I'm not going to walk away anytime soon because I still have a lot of things to accomplish, but it was never easy. I'll explain it as hell. It's like for me, I dig the hole that I can never feel up. I was walking into a tunnel that is dark. You know, there's no light in the end. So it was hard, but I had to learn through the process to say, you know what? I'm going to do it whether it's hard, why is it not easy? Whether it's all those odds, I'll make sure that I conquer through that. I think for me, I've always been that person who always believing herself.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The impact of the trucks, no, they were awful. They often make me sick. You know, you have beneath stomach, panic attacks. Of course, it started creating, you know, a little bit of blood clots. You can't sleep. You're always stressed. You have this anxiety. You're never happy. You know, you're just unhappy every day and you eat a lot. You gain a lot of weight. Those are the things that, you know, of course my gynecologists explain to me to say, look, we're going to limit it. The only thing that we do in this is because you only want to do Olympics.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“To take the level down, and it was agreed that I must be 10 or below, you understand? And I was like, okay, I'll try it. And then they gave me that six months. And we immediately jumped into it and we tried to make it work. And then it worked. Then they got me back to competition. Between those years, that five years, we did that. Yeah, but it was a sacrifice because you do things out of desperation because you still want to be in the game. You still want to be running again. So for me, I did it because I wanted to run. It's not just because I wanted to take this medication to do anything. Nonsense. I wouldn't do that if I was in desperate to get back to the track.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right. And I was like to my team and said, Look, there must be other option than doing all the surgeries. And my gynecologist came up with an idea to say, look, yes, maybe we can have a treatment that she can do. And then we went down. That was in consideration.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It was just a piece of information because at the end of the day, they've done me a favor because if maybe I didn't do that, if I didn't go through those tests, I was not going to discover that up until, you know, I find my own time to do that. And for me, I think it's just the learning curve to educate people out there to say, look, there are people who are different out there. There are people with defenses and you must just accept your differences and live your life. At the end of the day, you are not a mistake. And then the day...”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I never heard about these terms. I've never heard about this condition. But when I heard about it, no, I embraced it because that's me. I'm myself. I love everything about myself. And I told myself, I'll never change for anyone.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Of course, I expected it, expected it because, and then once I discovered that, you know, this is a gender test. I knew there was more coming and I prepared myself for that. And I knew when it was leaked before the final, I was like, oh, they're trying to get into my head. They think this will disturb me. And in my mind, I was like, if anyone wants to stop me to run, they will come drag me off the track. You understand? And for me, my mentality, it was, you know what? I'm going to stem firm, go compete, win the gold medal. If I win the gold medal, if whatever position I get, it's whatever position I get. And that's it.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“When these results came out, supposedly they say, you know, it was accidentally leaked. There's no freaking way you can accidentally leak the results. It was released for a purpose. And the purpose about it was for them to get into my head, to make me feel like I don't belong, to make me feel like I'm in a wrong spot. You know, I'm not women enough. For me having high testosterone level don't make me less a woman. For me not having a uterus or not having a uterus, excuse me, does not make me less a woman. If I don't have a violation chop, it don't make me less a woman. At the end of the day, those are just... Things that I was born without.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm just a different woman. That's the time because I'm different, of course. You know, I'm not going to label myself to be something that I don't believe in”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Test, of course, it was forced upon because if you go into any test and then you think it's a doping and you get there, you get surprises, you'll be like, oh, what's this? And when I exchanged words with the gynecologist, then he tells me, like, yes, Custer, these are gender tests. I was like, okay, if it's gender test, then fine. Let's do it because at the end of the day, for me, as a woman, I am, I got nothing to hide, you understand. I remember after that, he said, the results might be, you know, slightly different. I said, look, man, I'm happy with the person I am. Any results that come upon it, I'm going to take it because at the end of the day, what I know is that I'm a different woman, you understand?”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Did not happen, but I decided to wear a dress when I wanted to wear a dress. I remember when I moved through my grandmother's place, I was like, you know what? I want to experience this new life, see how it feels for me to be wearing dresses and like that. I wore those dresses for certain months and I feel like, you know what? This is not me. This is not what I like. I'll go back to wearing my shorts, you know, wearing my trousers. And there's nothing wrong about it. The community accepts you if you do not question yourself.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, no, no. Remember for me, I've always been strong. I've always been fair. I've always been fearless. So I stood for what I believe it was right for me. And for me, there was no way if my mom does not tell me to wear a dress, I'm going to wear a dress. You get what I'm saying? So for me, it has always been about me feeling comfortable in what I want. no matter what dress is or what. If I wanted to wear a dress, I'll wear a dress. But it shouldn't be someone suggesting that. Should wear a”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think people, when they try to diminish you, they try to take you down. Remember then I'm 18 years of age. In the world stage, and when people are threatened by success, of course they always come up with ideas of trying to discourage you, try to make you feel like you don't belong. But I knew myself, I knew what I stand for. So even if people came and labeled me, say whatever they wanted us to say, remember it's their opinion, not my opinion. The opinion of myself, it's me. It's what makes me happy. It's what drives me. So for me, I always say, because I remember I mentioned that I see it as a joke because at the end of the day, that has got nothing to do with me. That's the assumption. That's what they feel like it's right for them. But for me, no.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“how I see, you know, how I want to live my life. You get what I'm saying. So the definition of those labels, if that's how they see it, is that how they see it, it's a language that they use scientifically. It's okay. That's why even in the book, I explain that.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's not a rejection It's knowing who I am. You have to understand one thing about life, other people's opinion of me is their business, not mine. What stands the most is that knowing what I am, knowing who I am, you understand. And it's very simple and it's a very simple statement that I always portrayed out there to say I identify myself as women and identify myself as a different woman. And it ends there how you identify yourself is always your business because that's how you feel. And that's what you see. That's how it makes you feel happy. I always tell people it's up to them. It's their choice. And I can never let anyone define me, but I will define myself how I see myself.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“How I define myself, I define myself a custom and I'm a woman. So that's what I define myself and that's my identity. I'm a strong woman. I'm a masculine woman and I love everything about myself. I love my life. And people need to understand that when you know who you are, when you know what you stand for, it's about knowing also your personality and also knowing your purpose of life. I always believe that I'm the change. I was brought in this world for a reason to educate you, to guide, to make sure that people understand their basic rights. So for me, I'll say I'm a woman and I'm fast.”
2023-11-27 · On with Kara Swisher · Olympian Caster Semenya on Fighting to Run · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT