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Caterina Fake

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first: 2019-02-14
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“Well, I think that the biggest thing that I've been working on recently has been should this exist podcast. So, you know, listen, respond, subscribe. That's a kind of big thing and engage in that conversation.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's funny, I think of the kind of basic truths as being a fairly straightforward, frankly kind of boring statement. Right, you know, you should brush your teeth regularly. You should not let the grass grow on the path to your friend's door. You should be kind to one another. They sound like platitudes when you say them, when you see them on billboards. And yet, they're profoundly true. Frankly, nothing excitement exciting mainly be kind.”
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“Right. And like famously, you know, Stuart Brand is now working on bringing extinct life forms back to life, you know, kind of bringing back the sabre tooth tiger and the woolly mammoth kind of amazingly. And that kind of awakens. Possibility and dreams and excitement in the sense of, you know, wow, wonder, like the wonder of technology and the wonder of science, right? And then also terror and fear.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“manipulating the world in a way that is potentially leading us to conflagration and the end. And, you know, some say the world will end in fire, some say in ice, right? This is kind of the wonderful poem by Robert Frost. I mean, you know, we will. And because of our incredible power and ability and I think that we should take responsibility for having that power. And Stuart Brand, who you mentioned earlier, he was one of the progenitors of the Whole Earth catalog. And in it, he said we are as gods and might as well get good at it.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Name it viruses bacteria. Introducing basically the human touch into it, you know, kind of assuming what in prior eras and in current eras are actually thought of as the hand of God and putting that in human hands and this kind of Promethean impulse that people have to seize the power, like, you know, kind of Prometheus famously seizing the power of fire from the gods. just wrecking untold destruction upon the earth. There's just constant warnings throughout historical literature and Greek mythology and biblical literature and kind of modern day non-fiction about what happens when we enter the anthropocene, right? We enter the era of humankind.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“CRISPR is, in short, it's gene editing. It's the ability to change people's, you know, genes, DNA. And this has incredible possibility and Frankenstein-like potential. And so I think that people have become very alert to and alarmed by the possibilities the unintended consequences of introducing edited people, edited animals, edited any form of life. Really.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That the constant questioning, the constant vigilance, the practice of asking ourselves a question, should this exist, who is this harming? How do I remove bias from my AI? How do I make sure that this doesn't fall into the hands of the wrong people? How is it that I continually think about the outcomes of my technology and its effect on people and what it might do to them and their behavior? Constantly having that as part of the process of building something new is a very important part of putting it on its right track and building the kind of future that everybody had hoped to build from the outset.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm curious I do think that we have in Silicon Valley enjoyed incredible latitude and have been basically assuming that we have the ability to self-regulate. I don't think that anybody starts off this idea of being the supervillain, right? You know, I don't think anybody kind of starts off and like, heha, like I'm a kind of a bond villain in my mountain hide away. I'm going to bring about the destruction of the earth. Nobody starts out that way. I think that we all start out with best intentions. And as Baudelaire has said, and one of his many beautiful poems, we Descend to hell by short steps, and we end up loving what we hate and hating what we love. We end up doing things that we don't intend.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Utopian or dystopian of this technology and how to steer it towards its best possible future. That is really kind of the format of the show and I think that this conversation hopefully will become part of the dialogue about how companies are built, how they're thought about, and how at the very beginning of building these technologies and frankly carried out throughout the process of building these technologies, that we not only ask the question, can this exist? Because so much of technology has made it possible for so many things to exist, but should this exist?”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, what we do is we find an entrepreneur who's building a new interesting technology. And some of the interesting things have to do with AI or CRISPR or gene editing and neuroscientific kind of supplements to help us learn faster. Technologies which are in development where there's entrepreneurs who actually building it currently now. And we have those conversations and then we bring in people from the industry, from outside the industry, people who have different ideas, psychologists, sociologists, historians perhaps, and people who have a different perspective on technology and how it might impact our humanity. And then we have a conversation on kind of workshop with the entrepreneur about the potential outcome.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Realize that the next conversation to be had in technology was about the human consequences of the technology that we've been building. And I think that there has been kind of going back to the theme of, you know, the sun and the shadow has been all about the sun. And we're suddenly realizing that the shadow, which is always there, has now emerged. And we've seen what damage technology can potentially do to our humanity. And it was time for this podcast to come into being. So it just seemed as if it... In some ways, this podcast is kind of an Build a future that we're deliberately building and not lead us into unintended consequences that we've seen happen over and over again most recently in the story of technology.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I think that there's a super important conversation going on in technology right now in the culture in which we live that needs to be had. I was on my friend Reid Hoffman's podcast Masters of Skill. I loved that experience. I love podcasts just in general, but this one was very gratifying for me because I had done what I thought of as a fairly garden variety interview with Reed and they had turned it into a story with conflict and suspense and drama and made it super interesting. I loved it. I loved the podcast. I thought these producers are geniuses. And June Cohen of Wait What, who produces Masters Masters of Scale started a conversation about this new podcast?”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There's a couple wonderful books that are actually illustrated books that I have given out to many people. And I think it's unfortunately out of print. There's one called Drawings and Observations by the artist Louise Bourgeois, which is fantastic. And I've given that to so many people, as well as the principles of uncertainty by Myra Coleman. She's famously an illustrator. Really beautiful books and full of Just kind of life giving thoughts. And you can tell that these women have lived very rich, profound lives. Very thoughtful lives, very meaningful lives, and it's there in the books. There's another really wonderful book that's also I've given out to a lot of people called Letters of Note. And that is Letters kind of basically letters that have been collected throughout the ages. Wonderful letters”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Robert Graves, which is about poetry and its sources. I've reread the Upanishads, there is a tremendous, there's this writer who I just adore, WG Sebald. I don't know if you're familiar with him. But the immigrants by him is just an amazing, amazing book. I could go on and on”
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“I'm going to bring up, I use Goodreads and Goodreads.com is actually a really great place for people looking to discover new books. It's actually now owned by Amazon. And I put all of the books that I've read there. Because I read a lot. I read at least a book a week and I'm rereading currently the Odyssey by Homer in a new translation by Emily Wilson. Other books that I have found to be really great that I've read in the past year are really wonderful Tomb for Boris Davidovich by Danilo Kiss. Hannah vs. The Tree by Leland de la Drante Ethan Frome by Edith Wharton. I mean, I'm honestly just kind of going through this because I have this massive list, the white goddess, which is a very meaningful book by...”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Of poets that I love and respect. I love also the ones that you're talking about, Hafez, Rumi, Khalil Jubran. Like there's a lot of really wonderful poets from the East. I think bear attention from us.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Who I'm a huge fan of and actually was the motivation for me going online because I had discovered a community of borges fanatics in Denmark that I communicated with very early on in my internet career. So that was a big one. I think the best book of his to start with is Labyrinths. And it's so much about the internet. It's kind of the internet before the internet. It's a beautiful thing. As I mentioned, poetry has been a huge part of my life. I love all of the ones mentioned previously. WH Auden Wallace Stevens, Emily Dickinson, Paul Cehlan, Shakespeare, of course, and contemporary poets, those wonderful poets out there that I look forward to their work. Natalie Shapiro, Brenda Shaughnessy, the list goes on. I can put together.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes. Good. Okay. Well, I mean, let's just start. I've got, I'm a huge fan and part of the reason that I'm actually probably on the internet and love the internet so much is because of Jorge Luis Borges.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Whatever it might be I mean, honestly, I think that a great deal of emphasis on long-form reading, I think you and I both embrace this and love books and love reading. And I know you read, you know, philosophy and Seneca and I read Jung and poetry go long form, not short form. Go deep, right? And not broad. I think that this is actually a really important thing. And there's a dozen books and maybe we can, I can even write a list of these and you can. In the”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You have really just reached a depths of despair and then have kind of recovered from them. And the importance that that gives you going forward and your strength. Comes from that, right? And if you're never tested and you're never in that kind of situation, God help you. I mean, it's not a good state. Right? It's kind of the fullness of your humanity is kind of emerging from those depths. I've always kind of felt that. And without that, without that experience when I was a teenager, without some of those experiences from my childhood, without those experiences kind of like perpetually throughout life, life cycles through highs and lows like that and to appreciate those periods and not just struggle to ignore them or eliminate them from your life is I think one of the healthiest things that you can do.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Leaves me with a kind of a sense of forward motion from all of those things. I mean, I do think one of the things that we talked about was how when I was a teenager, I went through a very deep depression and a state of despair and melancholy and to use different terminology around it. And I think that always those periods are very formative. They are very important. You go back to them and those moments when you're at your worst, at your weakest, at your least successful, at your kind of most alone and look back at the path that you took out of them and the ability to emerge from them and to kind of keep going in spite of them are some of the most meaningful parts of your life is that you have”
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“Yeah. I mean, it's perpetual. It's hard to single out. A single failure. When looking at the, you know, you kind of look back at your miseries, your failures, the companies that didn't succeed, the relationships that didn't succeed, you know, great hope that you had for this or for that and kind of realize that you spent years and years working towards some kind of failed project or a relationship that didn't work out or, you know, some kind of trap that you fell into. you know, it was a struggle to free yourself. It's funny because I think that my orientation As a perpetual optimist.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Give your weakness to one who helps. It's a beautiful poem, I think if you search for it, it's like cry out in your weakness. And that is a very meaningful poem, I think, for people who are suffering. Because It's basically giving you permission, which I think a lot of people need. To cry out in your weakness.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But this one is cry out in your weakness because there are helpers in the world who will rush to save anyone who cries out. Like mercy itself, they run towards the screaming and cannot be bought off. And if you address your suffering to others, you find that this suffering is universal, that we all go through these moments of shame and dignity, depression, unhappiness, failure. And that anybody who's pretending that they don't It's just not true. You know, crying out loud and weeping, Rumi says, are great resources.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I think that when people are depressed, they're also in some ways ashamed of it. And I think That's one of the things that makes it feel so isolating is that we feel that other people. Will judge us that bad things could happen as a result of our revealing these parts of ourselves that are so troubled or despairing or unhappy or failing or unsuccessful. And that we always feel as if we've got to present our best face to the world. And this can be one of the things that makes it impossible to get out of it. And so One of the things that's most important, especially in Relationships with others is to constantly be in communication with others, to know who our friends are, to revive those lost friendships that we've had in the past that are very meaningful to us to resume our closeness to others and frankly to”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And it's all around you. You just have to do is kind of stop looking at those people that have the thing that you wish that you had and look to those people that saw that in you and realize that they're all around you. So that's what that poem kind of does to me. And I have. You know, I kind of feel as if if you have all of these poems and kind of they're deep inside you, that they will come to you when you need them.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's a beautiful poem, and I think what it speaks to is the kind of the envy. Wishing me like one more rich in hope, you know, featured like him, like him with friends possessed. And you see it all around you, especially when you're in the state of despair. And it seems as if the world all around you is full of delight and success and happiness that is somehow unavailable to you. But what this poem does is it happily I think on thee, right? And often this is read as a love poem, as a, you know, kind of a celebration of the relationship that Shakespeare is presumably in when he's writing all of these, when all of these sonnets, but when you really think about it, you know, Mr. Rogers famously says, like, think about all of the people that loved you into being, right? Those people are not necessarily your lover, but they're your mother. They're your sister. There's that teacher that saw something in you that other people didn't see. It's your friend.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“When in disgrace with fortune and men's eyes, I all alone beweep my outcast state, and trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries, and look upon myself and curse my fate, wishing me like one more rich in hope, featured like him, like him with friends possessed, desiring this man's art and that man's scope, with what I most enjoy contented least yet in these thoughts myself almost despising, haply I think on thee, and then my state, like to the lark at break of day arising, from sullen earth sings hymns at heaven's gate, for thy sweet love remembered such wealth brings, that then I scorn to change my state with kings.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“To accept the shadow in other people. Because we have this idea of other people. As being more Rich, successful, beautiful, happy. They're in a better relationship. They have better teeth Hair, you know, they have thicker hair. I don't know what the thing is, right? Like some insecurity that we have, we see in others as something that we don't have. And there's a wonderful sonnet by Shakespeare on this subject. I think it's Sonnet, what is it? It's Sonnet 29 by Shakespeare.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Like a pit of despair. Yeah. Well, I mean, I honestly, you know, it's interesting because I actually think that the way to start out with that”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Facebook or Instagram, or what have you. They're always going fabulous places and doing fabulous things, but what about Shadow, right? Like, what about the shadow? There's this really wonderful essay, which I encourage everybody to read by the science fiction writer Ursula Le Guin about the shadow. I talk about it. There's a blog post on my website that's called Social Peacocking in the Shadow. And in it, I link to a short story by Ursula Le Guin about the shadow, which I think is a very important part of people's humanity, which somehow is not being given space online.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, this is what happens on social media, and this is why social media can be so diminishing of people's humanity, is that people are always, I call it social peacocking, right? They're showing how great their life is. They're showing all of their happy moments. They're showing all of their successes and not their failures, all of their triumphs and not their doubts. And basically providing a highlights reel of their life. And this is very damaging to the psyche, to people's humanity of not acknowledging living and frankly giving time and space to those parts of yourself that are less savory, that are mistakes. I see it all around. And you see it all around, right? You kind of look at all of your happy, successful friends.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Basically, hide in my cave. And I think that many of us go through these. I mean, I think it's kind of just common to the human experience that this be a state. And I honestly think there's a reason for it, right? I just like the term depression because I think a lot of it is more is better described as melancholy or despair or there's an older words that describe it. It just seems so clinical to talk about it in the terms of depression. Because I think that it's part of a fully lived life to go through these periods of deep unhappiness and dissatisfaction and questioning and despair even. And that without that, You kind of, if you live always on the sunny side of life, I talk about this in kind of the Jungian sense of the shadow, right? If you're constantly rejecting the shadow, if you're constantly”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, when I was a teenager, I was actually quite a depressed teenager. I went through a super bad period of my life when, you know, I was in that kind of state that's familiar to a lot of depressed people where I just couldn't get out of bed in the morning and just wanted to stay there all day and was, you know, reluctant to expose myself to the world because I felt very vulnerable and needed to”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Are super important things that you don't want to think about anymore, and whether that be what you eat, what you wear, things that you're less invested in, so that when you're in, you know, like my witching hour or the hour of the wolf or whatever you call that, and when I'm in that state, I can go wide, right? I can make a thousand decisions. I have freedom to go into dark corners that I haven't yet explored that I can think really broadly and be more creative and have dreams and kind of revelations that are just not possible if you're kind of crowded into kind of tiny decisions all the time.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And that the fewer decisions that you make over the course of the day, the better decisions that you can, and the more energy that you have left over for the important decisions in your life. And so, you know, famously, Albert Einstein had one suit, of which he had five different versions or something like this. So he didn't have to think about what he's going to wear in the morning. He, you know, ate the same food. I kind of feel as if these patterns, if you figure out what it is that you're happy no longer making the decisions about. I mean, this is kind of one of the principles behind public goods, you know, this company that I mentioned earlier is that you don't have to think about what shampoo to buy. You just don't have to think about it anymore. You kind of check that box. It's done. You've got a default. And so building these defaults into your life.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I have a... I have a very idiosyncratic schedule and the The reason for that is that I have, like you say, I find the thing in the restaurant that I like and I always order it because it's been proven again and again that the burden of decision making wears you down.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I would say 100% of it remains just for me. I haven't. It's interesting because many people have asked me this over the years because I've actually written a half a dozen novels. I have written probably at this point two or three books of poetry if it were to be in published form. But I have somehow never let any of that out into the world. And part of it is that it's such a precious part of me that I in some ways I have a very strong tendency And desire to be successful in the world. And I read that it will be go out into the world and will be subject to the same laws as have led to my success in business, which it's a very different thing. And so it's funny because I find it, everyone's like, oh my gosh, this is great. You should publish this when it's encountered. And I'm kind of like, well, maybe, but in the end.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He had become a machine like in his thinking, and he said later on in his life If I had to live my life over again, I would make it a rule to read some poetry, listen to some music, and see some painting or drawing at least once a week, for perhaps the part of my brain now atrophied would then have been kept alive through life. The loss of these tastes is a loss of happiness. And I think this very powerful coming from as great a scientist as Charles Darwin because we live in what I call the technique. We live in a world of kind of mechanistic being and thought and science. And all of those passions that throughout, you know, Since Time Memorial has sustained humanity, Getting lost somehow or they're slipping away or they're Not part of our daily life. And I think we have to deliberately put it back in and continually put it back in.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There is this beautiful thing that he says. I think that this is a beautiful thing because he is a, you know, he's an amazing scientist. And he lived the life of the mind. And Darwin's regret was that He had become, he said, a machine for grinding out facts and figures.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I honestly think that there's no one poet for everybody and that the best way to start is to just go to, I think it's poetry.org. It's just wonderful, wonderful font of poetry and just start digging around and find what you love. I mean, you mentioned some of the ones that I love. I love Wallace Stevens. I love Emily Dickinson. I love Shakespeare. I wrote my thesis in college on James Merrill. I love WH Auden. It just goes on and on. We could talk for hours about. We could talk for hours about this, but... It's important that we do this. I'm going to, Tim, if you don't mind, dig up this quote from Charles Darwin.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I have a lot of that love of poetry, but it's deep inside. And I can recover a lot of this poetry at times when it's needed, when you're going through some kind of crisis or difficult times or depression or some kind of bad state you find yourself in. Suddenly some oracle from deep in the unconscious will come out. And Shakespeare will have said exactly the right thing and you'll then know what to do. It's kind of this amazing strategy that I've kind of carried with me my whole life.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I have this crazy memory, and I have for a long time, I think, since I was in my early teens, I decided that I would memorize poetry as a way of bringing the beauty of thought and language. And I always felt that poetry was one of the highest achievements of human thought and beauty. a kind of an embrace of the world. And so I wanted it to be part of me. And so I started memorizing poetry as a way of bringing it into my unconscious, as a way of having it always with me from a very young age. And so I started memorizing poetry. As a bit of an eccentric teenager”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I sat and I read poetry with the librarian. I remember this. I was only like five or six years old. I still remember some of those poems When I was a kid, and they were just kind of rhymes. Here's one I remember. Once there was an elephant who tried to use the telephant. Oh no, I mean the elephone who tried to use the telephone. Dear me, I am not certain quite that even now I've got it right. It seems somehow he got his trunk entangled in the telephunk. The more he tried to get it free, the louder buzzed the telephy. I fear I'd better drop this song of Elephop and Telephong.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And yet Too much possibility as we've discovered shuts us down and deprives us. Of fully lived experiences. And so, I mean, it's interesting because poetry has always been part of my life. I was a bit of a rebel as a kid and as a student, and I've always had a very difficult relationship with institutions. I think by kind of very anti authoritarian nature is also one of the things that led me to becoming an entrepreneur. And I rebelled against these structures. And one of the very earliest instances of this was in first grade when all of the other kids were learning to read and I already knew how to read. And I was basically becoming a very trouble in the classroom for the teacher because I was impatient and I wanted to read. So I went to the library”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Poetry, writing, dreaming, paying attention to those kinds of things, and the cultivation of an inner life is something that you have to deliberately do, that you have to protect in your life. Make time for and recognize as important. And frankly, not do many things, many of the opportunities that present themselves. It's terrible how much FOMO is created by the internet. It's endless. And there's a thousand places that you and I could be right now and a thousand experiences that we could be having and things that we could be doing. And those of us who are like you, like me, like a lot of the listeners are optimists. We're possibilists, we're people who believe in, you know, living life to the fullest. And the internet, you know, kind of both cultivates that and makes those opportunities available to more and more people, hopefully.”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It seems to be a A kind of an external expression of an internal state, it seems to be the recognition of and valuing of the inner life. I read and Something that somebody had written, let me try to figure out who it was. I can't remember. It was something that I read just the other day that was worrying and was very concerned that our modern world made it impossible for people to have an inner life, that the inner life was vanishing from the world, that our life was so much of the time that we would normally spend with ourselves, with our dreams, with our thoughts was vanishing because it was being filled up constantly with stimulation, entertainment, And our compulsion to be online. And basically what I see is sort of security exploits of the brain that the internet has managed to insinuate into our lives. And that”
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“And that response stuck with me because it's true, right? He was off building. PayPal is building Tesla was off doing that and not wondering how. If you see what I'm saying. She wasn't kind of reading forums endlessly about that, but was out instantiating those ideas. And that really stuck with me because I think it's true. You can spend a lot of time and preparation. And I think that's good to an extent and to a degree. But really, really living it, really being in it. Think is the most important thing”
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“Which I thought was kind of, you know, many people would like to know the answer to that question And one of the respondents was Justine Musk. Elon Musk's ex-wife. And one of the things that she, I thought this was kind of wonderful, right? Because like she knows firsthand actually what it takes to become or to be Elon Musk. And she responded, she said, well, first of all, Elon Musk would never be asking this question in a quora forum.”
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“And you're like, and you're like, what happened? Where did it go? And so I think that you need to just get on top of that. I think that's one really important thing that you can do. This is a kind of a major thing. I fall out of this all the time. I am, you know, you see me watching unboxing videos on YouTube all the time. And so you just have to constantly bring yourself back to that and realize how much of a time suck that is and it can be. Realize also that kind of activity that's taking you away from a life fully lived. I remember reading an article on Quora where somebody said I want to be an entrepreneur, a successful as Steve Jobs and Elon Musk. How do I do that?”
2019-02-14 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #360: Caterina Fake — The Outsider Who Built Giants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT