YouSaid · the spoken record

Catherine Price

lines on the record
21
first
2025-05-20
most recent
2025-05-20
sittings or episodes
1
sources
podcast

Every line below is reproduced as it was said and linked to the record it came from. Nothing here is summarised or generated. Directory · Search · Corrections

  1. “Would echo everything that you have said, and I'd also speak directly to parents who are listening and who have read the Anxious Generation and have felt very anxious about it and have stayed up at night thinking, oh my goodness, what have I done to my kid or what am I going to do to my kid? And I want to say that that's why we're writing this book, the Amazing Generation, because we want to empower you and your children to make a better choice. And we're just so excited to get the chance to do so. So thank you for inviting us to have this conversation and to introduce the book to the world.”

    2025-05-20 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Jonathan Haidt on How Kids Can Choose Fun and Freedom in a Screen Filled World · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  2. “Catherine and Jonathan, what do you want to say before we go? I'll start off by just saying this problem seems so big, and the main criticism I've gotten in the last year, it's there's almost nothing about how I got the story wrong. The criticism is almost always, oh, it's too late. Oh, it's hopeless. Oh, the technology is here to stay. But what we've seen since the book launched last April is that parents are fed up, teachers are fed up, legislators are fed up because their parents and kids are fed up. So I'm incredibly optimistic that we are going to roll this back. The phone-based childhood only arrived 12 years ago. It hasn't been there that long. We can get rid of it, and I think we're going to. Catherine, what would you add?”

    2025-05-20 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Jonathan Haidt on How Kids Can Choose Fun and Freedom in a Screen Filled World · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  3. “Including a bunch of other ones that are started by Gen Z. So to see members of your generation stepping up and saying no, this is bad for us. We, no matter how hard it is, we're finding the guts and the discipline, we're going to unplug and we're going to reembrace life and childhood. So thank you. We're just so thrilled to see the example of your group. And the Ludditeclub.org, if anyone is curious about it online.”

    2025-05-20 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Jonathan Haidt on How Kids Can Choose Fun and Freedom in a Screen Filled World · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  4. “I'd like to just add my kids go to Brooklyn Tech High School here in New York, and I know that there was a chapter of the Luddite Club at Brooklyn Tech. I couldn't get my daughter to join it, but at least I feel somewhat connected to it from the fact that it is local for us. And I think one thing that Catherine and I are so thrilled by is this is such a big problem. Childhood has been rewired. To change this, we need everybody. We need the adults, the parents, the Congress people, the doctors, the teachers, the administrator. We need everybody. But if the kids are silent and it's just the adults are saying, oh, we got to save the kids, that's not so compelling to the kids. But when you have examples popping up all over the country, if you go to anxiousgeneration.com, we have a link to lots of aligned organizations.”

    2025-05-20 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Jonathan Haidt on How Kids Can Choose Fun and Freedom in a Screen Filled World · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  5. “Yeah, I would say that Logan, this is why we're already in touch about including the story of the Luddite Club in John in my book, The Amazing Generation, because it's so inspirational, right? Like anyone listening, like this is what could be, like Logan's an example of a young person who woke up and saw the light and made change and also realized it's easier and it's most importantly more fun when you do it with other people. So yeah, I applaud everything you're doing and I cannot wait to help get more people to become Luddites in the way that you describe that.”

    2025-05-20 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Jonathan Haidt on How Kids Can Choose Fun and Freedom in a Screen Filled World · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  6. “Something did actually flip in your brain, correct? Catherine? Yeah, something actually did actually flip in her brain the dopamine hits were no longer there. That's what happened, right? I think exactly what you're saying is correct. You actually noticed that your brain went through a period of withdrawal from not getting the constant dopamine stimulation that's provided by smartphones and short-form content on platforms like TikTok.”

    2025-05-20 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Jonathan Haidt on How Kids Can Choose Fun and Freedom in a Screen Filled World · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  7. “Hey, thanks for being here welcome back to my conversation with authors Jonathan Hyde and Catherine Price. We're talking about what parents can do to help their kids engage in real life again. They have co authored a book that can help you it's called The Amazing Generation How to Choose Fun and Freedom in a Screen Filled World. Logan is a 19-year-old who made a very bold decision four years ago. She joins us now from the campus of Oberlin, college in Ohio. Hi Logan, tell us what happened. Hi.”

    2025-05-20 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Jonathan Haidt on How Kids Can Choose Fun and Freedom in a Screen Filled World · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  8. “Okay. And he's a handsome boy, too. My God. Yeah, I predict that the girls are going to be all over him because he's going to be like one of the few who knows how to actually have a conversation and connect. I am thankful that you took the time to listen and meet up with me here on the Oprah podcast where we're having conversations that I hope can serve to inspire you or enhance your life. When we come back, we'll hear from a teenager who made a courageous and unlikely decision for her future by giving up her smartphone PC and for a limited time, college students get the best of both worlds. Get the unreal college deal, everything you need to study and play with Select Windows 11 PCs, eligible students get a year of Microsoft 365 premium, and a year of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate with a custom color Xbox.”

    2025-05-20 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Jonathan Haidt on How Kids Can Choose Fun and Freedom in a Screen Filled World · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  9. “What I'm saying, and I think that's just so amazing. So, yeah, I think it's absolutely wonderful that you all are doing that. And I know it can be hard, but like, I think what John was getting at is a lot of the young people we speak to in Gen Z, they say, wow, I just feel like I'm not an interesting person. They actually themselves say, I feel like I am boring because all I did was watch videos of other people on my phone. And I think, Mike, what you are is an example of a young person who is not boring specifically because you're not spending all that time on your phones. I think this is the story. This is a model, model story. Sorell family, applause to you. Applause to all of you. And Mike, I'm glad I'm so happy to know that you're poppy. I'm so happy to know that. All right, good to catch up with you all. Thank you so much.”

    2025-05-20 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Jonathan Haidt on How Kids Can Choose Fun and Freedom in a Screen Filled World · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  10. “Amazing, right? Like these are the stories we're trying to amplify in the amazing generation. And Mike, I'm going to say, I know you're pushing back on your parents right now. But if you pretend they're not here right now, I don't know. I kind of get the sense you kind of know you're amazing and that this is a cool thing about you. And I was just wondering if you for one second could pretend your parents were not sitting next to you or maybe it's okay. But can you tell us something you feel like you have gained or something that like makes you unique because you don't have a phone that actually is positive? Because I'm getting that sense from you that there are many of those things you're aware of.”

    2025-05-20 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Jonathan Haidt on How Kids Can Choose Fun and Freedom in a Screen Filled World · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  11. “Was talking about. It's why you see so many young people who weren't alive in the 90s wearing friends' t shirts. They're nostalgic for a time they didn't. No, they didn't have it. So to me, that's really a call to action for parents, including myself, to say, even though it's so hard, we need to be strong. We need to join together and do what we know in our hearts is right for our children and say no to these things until they're old enough to handle them so that we create a moment now for our kids and we give them a life in the future. We'll get emotional. It's really in your struggle.”

    2025-05-20 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Jonathan Haidt on How Kids Can Choose Fun and Freedom in a Screen Filled World · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  12. “They probably will be a bit more left out if they don't have social media because so many other kids have it. So that is real. We have to acknowledge that. But I think what a lot of adults need to think more about, myself included and, you know, everyone I know is we're focused so much on what our kids are going to miss out if they don't have smartphones, but we need to be thinking more about what they're going to miss out on if we do give them smartphones. And I mean that both in the sense of the immediate experiences and skills and relationships that they won't have and they won't develop in the near term if they're constantly on their phone like John calls phones experience blockers, which I think is a fantastic way to talk about them. But if you also think about the world our kids are growing up in, one of the most poignant things I've heard from people in Gen Z is they don't feel like that path of real life adventure I was talking about exists for them. They don't feel like they have that option because all of their peers are on phones all the time and they feel deeply sad about it. That's why they're nostalgic for the movie's job.”

    2025-05-20 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Jonathan Haidt on How Kids Can Choose Fun and Freedom in a Screen Filled World · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  13. “Think it's a you're in a difficult position, and I think any parent listening to this conversation can empathize with you. So I just want to say that straight up. I'd also say that I think that as parents, we do need to trust our instincts about this, that if something feels like it's not right for our kids, you're probably right. And in the case of a smartphone, it's the gateway drug to the entire internet. I always say to people, if you're thinking about getting your kid a smartphone, you should ask yourself, are you ready for your kid to have access to the entire internet? And are you ready for the entire internet to have access to your child? And so personally, I would encourage you to revisit the decision to give your child a phone and to see if there's some alternative, like John was just saying, is there a way to give your son a smartphone alternative instead of a full-fledged smartphone? And I also would say that I totally hear you on the fear of our kids feeling left out if they don't have phones and social media, smartphones and social media. And in reality, at the moment,”

    2025-05-20 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Jonathan Haidt on How Kids Can Choose Fun and Freedom in a Screen Filled World · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  14. “On all sorts of screens instead of engaging in real life. And the other choices, the path of real life adventure, as we're calling it, where it's not that you're never going to get a smartphone, it's not that you're never going to use technology. We're not saying that we're never going to do that. But instead, you focus on real-life adventures and real-life relationships and prioritizing real life over a life lived on a screen. And what we really want to get across to kids is that it's not a matter of saying no to the phone per se. It's about saying yes to real life. And that's exciting and that's fun and it's available to them.”

    2025-05-20 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Jonathan Haidt on How Kids Can Choose Fun and Freedom in a Screen Filled World · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  15. “Yeah, so I think one of the things that John and I realized early on, and I know this from how to break up with your phone as well, is you don't want to come at this from a position of restriction only. You don't want to just focus on the bad stuff. There is plenty of bad stuff to focus on. We could talk for a long time about that. John and I really wanted to give kids and their parents a positive way forward and to frame this as a choice. If you truly believe that if young people and if kids really understood what was being done to them and also how good life can be, they actually wouldn't choose this path for themselves. So we decided to use this metaphor in the book that's two paths that basically kids of our age range, which is roughly fourth to eighth grade in the book. It includes both kids who don't have smartphones and social media yet and kids who have started to use social media and smartphones. And we framed it as this choice of two paths. On the one hand, you have the path of the smartphone, as we're calling it, which is shorthand basically for a life that's dominated by screens, not just smartphones, but spending lots of time.”

    2025-05-20 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Jonathan Haidt on How Kids Can Choose Fun and Freedom in a Screen Filled World · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  16. “Social media heavily are much more likely to be depressed. You know, they know that there's a huge problem with sexual predation on these platforms. They know that young men who game a lot, something like 7% of them are at risk of actual addiction. They know these things. They're protecting their own children. Our kids need to know that too. I think that's very important. We can't just talk down to our kids, we have to help our own children understand how they're being taken advantage of. Technology wizards who basically want to, as John has said, suck their attention and their energy out of them so that they can make more money off of our children's lives.”

    2025-05-20 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Jonathan Haidt on How Kids Can Choose Fun and Freedom in a Screen Filled World · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  17. “Well, it's really strange if you think about it. You know, like Thomas Edison didn't tell his own kids presumably not to use a light bulb, but here you have some of the major tech executives saying in public that they don't let their own children use their products, like the CEO of TikTok saying he doesn't let his kids on TikTok. Mark Zuckerberg saying to Fox News that he doesn't want his kids to be sitting in front of a TV or a computer for long periods of time. Steve Jobs was famously restrictive about Tech use. A lot of these executives send their kids to Montessori or Waldorf schools that have restrictions on technology. So I think those are the people who know their products the best because they make them. They know the things that John and I talk about, you know, like they're designed to invite girls who use”

    2025-05-20 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Jonathan Haidt on How Kids Can Choose Fun and Freedom in a Screen Filled World · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  18. “I've heard from young people who say that their entire childhoods were stolen from them, but they basically feel like they have no memories of their teenage years because they spent all of their time on their phones. You know, young people are expressing this deep sense of regret for all the skills they didn't develop and the relationships they didn't have and the experiences they missed out on because their noses were stuck in their phones. And so it's actually really exciting to then hear from some of the young people who have realized that and who have changed their ways to hear that they actually have taken back their own lives and they start to experience life in the way that we'd want all of us to experience life, having experiences, doing things together. So on the one hand, it's very depressing to hear how much young people feel has been stolen from them, but it's also really exciting to realize that we can use those insights to create a better future for the next generation.”

    2025-05-20 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Jonathan Haidt on How Kids Can Choose Fun and Freedom in a Screen Filled World · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  19. “I think it's easy to think that Gen Z doesn't understand what's happened to them, but they do. And John has heard this from countless people in Gen Z. And I have as well through how to break up with your phone. They know what's happened to them. They don't like it, and they wish it hadn't happened to them. And so we had the idea that instead of just having it be the sort of top-down approach, you know, I don't know if you can tell that John and I are actually not teenagers. So we realized teenagers and kids don't want to be lectured to by adults. It would be much better to have the voices of people closer to their age speaking directly to them. And so we've reached out to Gen Z leaders and then also young people themselves who are just interested in sharing feedback and we're asking them questions like, what do you wish that you could have told your younger self? And what advice do you have for the next generation so that they don't make the same mistakes that you made and their insights and their anecdotes have been incredibly powerful and it's thrilling to get to them?”

    2025-05-20 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Jonathan Haidt on How Kids Can Choose Fun and Freedom in a Screen Filled World · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  20. “Yeah, so the anxious generation, as we all know, did a wonderful job of making the world wake up to the issue of what's happening to our children and what has happened to Gen Z, the young adults whose childhoods were destroyed and stolen from them by phones. And right now we have the opportunity to speak directly to the younger generation. So the anxious generation is a call to action for people, I would say teenagers on up to do things to change the experience for our young people, our kids. But the amazing generation, our new book, is actually speaking to the kids directly. So it's a complementary approach so that everyone can be on the same page and take action together. It's incredibly empowering and exciting.”

    2025-05-20 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Jonathan Haidt on How Kids Can Choose Fun and Freedom in a Screen Filled World · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  21. “I've heard from young people who say that their entire childhoods were stolen from them, that they basically feel like they have no memories of their teenage years because they spent all of their time on their phones.”

    2025-05-20 · The Oprah Podcast · Oprah and Jonathan Haidt on How Kids Can Choose Fun and Freedom in a Screen Filled World · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT