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Cenk Uygur

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“And one night after the whole thing's done, they pass the entire Ottoman fleet over the land, wind up in the middle of the bosphorus, and the Holy Roman Empire conceits they surrender. Because change happens really gradually and then all of a sudden.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“All the ships get stuck on the chain. There's cannons on both sides. Half the ancient navies in the world are at the bottom of the bosphorus, right? So hasn't been conquered in over a thousand years. Nobody thinks it can be conquered. Grandpa comes out with the idea of why don't we build giant wooden planks over land and grease them and pass our fleet over land onto the other side. Everybody goes because whenever anybody proposes a new idea, no matter how logical it is, they go, oh, it's impossible. No way it's going to work. Oh, you're crazy. This is unconquerable city. What are you guys even doing? Everyday member, the conqueror comes up to grandpa and says, all right, how's your plan to do this project going? And grandpa says, slowly. And he names them Commander Slowly”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My mom's last name in Turkish is Yawasha, it means slowly. It's a weird name even in Turkish. And so one day we're walking past the mosque in Istanbul when I'm a kid. And it says on the mosque, Yabasha. Well, what is this? Okay. So it's a small little mosque. We go inside and my dad starts asking the mom questions, okay? So he says, why is the mosque to name that? And he said, you don't know. And he said, because my dad said my wife's name, his last name is Yahusha. He's like, oh my God. And he's like, your ancestor was the admiral of the Ottoman Navy when they conquered Constantinople. Okay. So grandpa from five, six hundred years ago came out with the idea. So you can't ever conquer Constantinople because there's a giant chain underneath the Bosphorus.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And Lex, I can tell you a fun story. It's about my family. And I'm sure that parts of it are apocryphal because it's from like 500 years ago. But it gives you a sense of the old Mark Twain quote, if it's really Mark Twain's, of change happens really gradually and then all of a sudden.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We say, look, and I this is like the ending of my book, which is for conservators, you have a lot of empathy for inside the wagons. So conservators are great to their family, generally speaking, to their community, to their church, to anyone that's inside the wagons. But they set up electric fences and barbed wire around their wagons. So if you're on the outside, you're the others and you're going to get electrified. And it's constantly, right? And so I like to think the left wing has wider wagons. So we view the world as more us and not you. But the good news of that is if we win, we're not going to do Medicare for only the left, right? We're going to do Medicare for all. You're all going to get universal health care. We're going to do higher wages for all. The right wing is not going to be left out. And if we're...”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Gay rights. We keep winning. But every snapshot in time makes it feel like we're losing. There's a bad guy in charge. We aren't living under corporate rule, etc. But in the long tide of history, change always wins, so the empathetic, generally speaking, left wing. But again, don't worry about the titles, right? People get obsessed with the labels. The two-thirds, that's empathetic. That includes a lot of right-wingers, right? You win at the end in history every single time. So we fight forward. We're tough when we need to be. We need that willpower to win any fight, right? But we're civil and respectful to the other side because they are us. So progressives all the time.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah. And in fact, one more thing, Lex. Look at history. Hope and change always win. And so, again, can service don't catch feelings? There is a need for conservatives because you have to balance things out. If you just had, even though wonderful two-thirds, that still wouldn't be the ideal system. You need a Winston Churchill if you're in the middle of World War II. You need someone to say regulating six inspections of the elevators is too many, right? So you need that balance and conservatives have a role and it's a really important role. But having said that, They're assigned to losing throughout history because they're fighting on losing ground. A conservative says no change, but the world is constantly changing. So they're destined to lose. That's why the founding fathers won against the British monarchy. That's why the Civil Rights Movement won. They didn't win overnight. It took them a hundred years to get equal rights, let alone past slavery, right? So we won on women's rights. We won on”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And that's how you become the alpha. You don't do through physical dominance, you do through consent. So that's how we're hardwired. That's in our DNA. That two-thirds in the long run will win. And we will have empathy. We will have change. And that's the hope that we're all looking for”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's why we have a sense of what a snake does, right? So for good news is for higher level apes like us, bonobos, chimpanzees, and humans, we all roughly want consent. So a chimpanzee, for example, has a violent reputation, and they are violent. And unfortunately, we're pretty close to them. What people don't know is a leader doesn't win through violence, especially for bonobos. They win by picking lice off of other chimpanzees, by going and doing favors, going to a hunt, getting food and giving it to someone else, because what they're gathering is the consent of the governed.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Bottom line is we are a species that requires consent. I mean, I'm a stone-cold atheist. So I don't think we're kind of like apes. I think we are apes. And so, and all the scientists out there are going, well, of course we are. Everyone else is going, that's crazy. So when you look at it as a species, different species react in different ways. Snakes have no empathy because”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Other two thirds go, well, some change, right? So because if you don't do any change, you're never going to get to the right answer. For the wisdom of the crowd to work, for free markets to work, for everything to work, you have to keep changing because the times change and the culture changes and the situation changes, right? So that's why there's amendments in the Constitution because you need to be able to change the document from time to time. Be careful with it, right? But you need to allow for an avenue for change. Now, why does the one-third keep winning in so many different places? Because they have more money in power. And by the way, if you're more selfish, you're more likely to get more money in power, right? And I wish that weren't the case, but it is. And these are not blanket rules. They're on average. So that third winds up winning in so many circumstances.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, why am I center left and not center right? It gets that question. So you look at the polling, not just here in America, but in almost any country. And it almost always breaks out to two-thirds or one-third, right? Two-thirds of the people say, let's be empathetic, let's share, let's do equality, justice, let's be fair, right? One third goes, no, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me. Okay. That's just the nature of humanity. And so, and usually the same third goes, no change.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“hire that loose cannon to run your company. It's unacceptable risk. But you're not wrong. We talked about it earlier, but as part of that risk, there's a sliver in there that he could accidentally do the right th”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Crazy, I mean Yes, but with the biggest asterisk in the history of the world, which is 12% chance he does that, and that's great, but a huge chance he does the opposite. And he goes, let's call it 80 again. 80%. Oh yeah, Miriam wanted me to give Israel to West Bank to Israel. So you have it, guys. Now, you just occupy the whole thing forever, okay? Giant war. Oh, yeah, I'm going to prove how tough I am. I'm going to nuke Iran. Oh, no. What are you doing? What are you doing? Trump is a massive risk. He's an enormous amount of risk. If you were running a company and not a country, would you hire Trump as your CEO? Everyone watching just screamed inside their heads, no. You would never take that kind of risk with your company. You got an 80% chance the guy's going to blow up the company? No way, no way. And you know it too. Especially if you're a businessman, you know you're not going to.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So Lex, tell me this, okay? So, if the US president said, I'm going to cut the funding, do you think that it might have a giant problem for Netanyahu, might it hurt his government? Might they have to go to an election? Would Israeli politicians, let in the population, begin to really, really worry that they're going to lose an enormous source of funding and weapons?”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Gantz has got massive war crimes on his record. So don't worry, he's not a softy. But he's not my favorite guy in the world, to say the least. But Benny Gantz can do a peace deal if he wants to. So look, only one group of people can actually settle this. Well, it's actually two groups of people. One is the Israeli population. You vote on someone who wants to do a peace deal, you'll get a peace deal. Okay. Number two is the American president. So if I'm the American president, I'm saying in a hypothetical, right? Or any American president that actually wants to get a peace deal done. You just say, I'm going to cut the funding. Israel will do the deal immediately. They don't say they want to cut the funding because APAC gives them $100 million. It's not complicated, not 1% complicated.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's going to sound outlandish, but I can get you a ceasefire almost overnight if BB's gone. Because the Israeli negotiators have said publicly, please not publicly got leaked and it was in the Israeli press. You have to give us a little bit of wiggle room. If you don't give us a little bit of wiggle room, obviously they're not going to do the deal. And he's like, I know, right? That's why he's not giving them the wiggle room. So don't ask for land in Gaza. Get the hell out of Gaza. It is a ceasefire. That's the easy part. So the hard part is the occupation, ending the occupation. But even that, I can get it to you in two months as long as Israel actually wants a deal. So go to an election, get rid of Netanyahu, put in, you know, Benny Gantz. Is Benny Gantz an angel? No, he's the one that ordered all the bombings of Gaza to begin with, right? He's, look, Benny.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Then become a safe haven the way that you're a safe haven is stop the occupation it's not complicated and the reason they're not let's be honest the reason the right wing government of israel is not stopping the occupation is because they want to take more and more land and so they have throughout time taken way more of the west bank than they had originally and now netano is saying i want a corridor at the in the middle of gaza and i want a corridor at the border of egypt now we're back to occupying gaza physically let alone through power and etc”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Single bomb from Egypt since the peace deal. Peace deals work. War gets you more war. Peace deals get you peace. And you should never, this is true of all of life. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. So if you're saying, well, I'm not positive that a peace deal is going to be perfect and 12 more rockets might be fired. Well, brother, what do we have now? Right? We have endless rockets now. If Israel is supposed to be a safe haven for Jews and I get it and I want it, okay?”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No more rockets. If you do any other rockets when Israel does the barbaric thing they just did, even I would say, hey, brother, we had a peace deal. So if you violate a peace deal and you do a bomb, they're going to do a bomb and their bomb is much larger. And by the way, can it work? It already has worked. Israel already did it with Egypt. So Egypt was a hundred times Hamas. Egypt gathered all the Arab armies and actually physically invaded Israel when Israel could lose and they did it several times. And Lex at the time, all not just the right, like the Warhawks, but most people thought there's no way Egypt will keep that peace to you. Oh, they're suckers. We're giving them the Sinai Peninsula back and then they're just going to keep bombing and attacking us. There hasn't been.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Then they get right now, Fatah went into Gaza Strip, they wouldn't be able to manage it because they don't have enough credibility. They're mainly seen as in cahoots with the occupiers, whereas Hamas is hardcore and fighting against the occupiers. But if Fatah delivers not only a peace deal, but a Palestinian state, then they come in as heroes. So you make the deal with them, you let them run the Gaza Strip, and you empower them to drive out Hamas. That way, they do your dirty work for you, in a sense, right? But good because Hamas is a terrorist organization. They're not helpful. And especially if the Palestinians get a state, the violence has to stop immediately. That's the whole point. The trade is you get a state, Israel gets safety and peace.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So I had a solution where you don't need Hamas, but yes, Hamas would definitely take the deal. Hamas already publicly said that they would even get rid of that Israel doesn't have a right to exist. But there's so much propaganda in American media. It's maddening, right? And this idea that you don't deal with Hamas is so dumb. So the reason it's dumb is you don't negotiate with your friends. You negotiate with your enemies. Well, I don't want to negotiate with them. I don't like them. Well, then you're not going to get to peace, right? But still, there is a path that doesn't include Hamas. So make a deal with Fatah that runs the best West Bank.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This is the definition of ethnic cleansing. But is like. I know that the Arabs are going to take the deal. Saudi Arabia cannot wait to take the deal because they just want to get business going, right?”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That Israel keeps them even though that drives me crazy no right of return for Palestinians, the symbolic right of return for a couple of families. And so Palestinians go, oh, no way. Guys, you have no leverage. Take the deal. Take the deal. Okay. So you're not going to get a right of return. Israel is not going to allow millions of Palestinians to go and vote in Israel. It would end the Jewish state. You have to get to a practical solution. Honestly, the number one person blocking it now is Netanyahu. It's not even that's obvious. That doesn't take a lot of courage to say that. He says publicly, I don't want a Palestinian state. I'm against a two-state solution. He's been monstrous. He's one of the worst terrorists of my lifetime. So that's easy. The right wing of Israel has lost its mind. So the Smotrich and the Ben Gavir is openly talking about ethnic cleansing and driving them into other Arab countries.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If people wanted to get to peace, it's relatively straightforward. There's already a deal that was negotiated the Saudis agreed to it, and they're an important player in this game. The Palestinians and the Israelis have initially agreed to it. Even Hamas has kind of agreed to it. That deal exists and is just waiting on the shelf to get done, right? And it's pretty straightforward. Israel gets out of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, but they keep an X percentage. It used to be 4%, then it went up to 6%. It's probably a higher number now. The Palestinians keep losing leverage as we go, right? So you remember how hard it was to get a deal on Ukraine, I thought. That's a very complicated one. Israel is much more straightforward. Get the hell out of the occupying territories. Keep some of the settlements are the worst thing. They're cancer. But anyway, I don't know. But there is an answer to the settlements.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So look Not in on it, so there's no way we can know, right? But I just always go back to logic He has dirt on a lot of powerful people. He dies in a way that is an obvious murderer, not a suicide. And then you begin to think who would have enough power to be able to get away with that crime. And that is a very limited number of either people or governments, right? So that's probably your answer without knowing anything that's internal.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not going to do that, right? So now we've gotten into a system where it's the invisible hand of the market that runs the country. But unfortunately, only for the powerful. And so it's more of a machine. And they don't do, and this is super interesting in ties to what we're talking about earlier, Alex, which is that they don't do political assassinations anymore. They do character assassinations. That's the needle in the haystack thing. If you do an assassination of someone, you build up their status. They become a martyr and you build up their cause. But if you do a character assassination, you smear the cause with the person and the cause goes down, not up. So the market found a better way of getting rid of agitating outside.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And sometimes they would go extrajudicial, right? Like potentially with the JFK assassination. So now, and by the way, you pissed off J. Edgar Hoover. He was just going to put a bullet in your head. And we were done with you. Okay. Fred Hampton, among others. But nowadays, that's not how the world works. A small number of families cannot control a country and an economy this size. New people pop up. Well, Mark Zuckerberg wasn't part of those families. Elon Musk wasn't part of those families. Neither was Bezos, right? For you to believe those conspiracy theories, you have to think that Bezos and Musk, et cetera, were like, oh, you guys are still running the country? No problem. Go ahead.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, in the old days, the CIA has an actual deep state. And because the country was run by a bunch of families, right? So you go to Yale, the Skull Bones thing was real, right? And you go to Harvard, you go to this, and look at the Dulles family, right? Half of them go into government, other half going to banking. Why are the Central American countries called Banana Republics? Because we weed America. Because a banana company wanted it. Because they're like, how dare you charge whatever you want for your natural resource? We American corporations have the right to all of your natural resources at the lowest possible rate. Alan, get rid of these guys, okay? And Alan would.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“that the word that the minute the phrase conspiracy theory is mentioned, you have to shut off your mind. You have to believe whatever the media tells you”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Again, I always do it ahead of time because I want you to test me and see, does it match objective reality? So I said the minute that it happened, you'll have your answer based on whether the video in the hallway worked or not. If the video in the hallway works, there'll be just as many conspiracy theories, but it'll show actually who went in and didn't go in. But if the video in the hallway doesn't work, they definitely killed him. Okay, so a couple of days later, oh, the video in that particular hallway happened to not be working. And the guards both happened to be on break at the same time. And the most notorious pedophile criminal in the country happened to be unguarded. And that is the one time he decided to hang himself. Listen, man, the only way you believe that is if you got mainstream media to get you to believe.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Other countries' leaders all the time, but they tell us oh they wouldn't do it to our own leader. But remember, it's not the CIA, he'd left the CIA already, right? So he get, you know, so I don't know if it was ex-CIA guys. I don't know if the mob was involved. I don't know any of those details, but I know things that are obvious. That bullet didn't magically hit him from over there. Jack Ruby killed Lee Harvey Oswald. Jack Ruby was a monster who on the record had said that he hated Kennedy. All of a sudden he became patriotic overnight and shot the assailant who was unguarded. Maybe less likely. Okay, so let's speed up, though. So my point is, yeah, some conspiracy theories could be true. It depends on objective reality, right? You get to Epstein.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Which one's the conspiracy theory that Lee Harvey Oswald from like 12 miles away shot a magic bullet that went like this and hit like 13 people and came out Kennedy's brain or that the government might have wanted to cover up an assassination of the president for whatever reason okay come on now I'm of course doing hyperbole and like the JFK enthusiasts will be like no it did the bullet didn't actually go like this it didn't actually hit 13 people I'm kidding guys okay but in terms of is that conspiracy theory real that JFK was not just killed by Lee Harvey Oswald almost certainly right and so if you read real books with tons of information the most likely culprit is Alan Dulles the head of the CIA that he fired back when there was a deep state there actually was a deep state they did coups against”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So sometimes when we have long, thoughtful conversations like this, I'll say it depends a lot. And then people get frustrated by that. But then you're frustrated by the world because it depends. So conspiracy theories. If you say, are they all right or are they all wrong? Already the question's wrong. So it depends. What is the conspiracy theory? So if it's, you know, some of the absurd ones we've mentioned here, that's easily disproven, right? On the other hand, There's a conspiracy theory about JFK's assassination.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And Obama told us the change wasn't possible. You could only get 5%. And so if Bernie does 50%, then Obama's humiliated, and his record and his legacy is ruined, right? So I don't think he makes that conscious decision, right? But his subconscious is a way of thinking. If you're watching morning Joe, He says something that Biden is for $15 minimum wage when Biden takes it out of the bill know that morning Joe was lying to you. He says that Biden said he was for the public option, but he never even proposed it. When morning Joe still defends him and you see an objective reality, Biden didn't actually propose that bill, you know that they're lying to you, test it against objective reality. Did it actually happen or didn't it?”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And so for that class, the status quo is pretty good. So when Biden gives you 15% change, you're like, what else do you want? That's amazing. He just course corrected a little bit. Now it's perfect, right? But for the average guy who needs a hundred percent change, not fifteen, they look at it and they go, what the fuck? He only did 15% and everybody's declaring him a hero, right? So those are the hardest guys to get through on. And those are the guys who get most mad at me, not the right wingers, the establishment. That's why I'm nails on a chalkboard for them because I'm on the left, but I call out their crap and their marketing and propaganda. And that's why I mentioned earlier, no one probably, no, he might not even consciously know it, but no one dislikes Bernie more than Obama. Because if Bernie got into office, he'd embarrass Obama by doing a lot more changes.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Nobody's been in a FEMA camp. Obama left. There was no FEMA camps. So when I asked, like, for the right-wing conspiracy guys, guys, has any of their things ever come true? Like, they always say all these crazy things that never ever happen. So the third time it doesn't happen, can you please start to wonder maybe I'm on the wrong side? Maybe, but that's not just for right-wingers. That's easy, right? But it's also for mainstream media. And that's where I get the biggest pushback. And that's where, because my tribe is what the kids call PMC, professional management class. Okay, they're careerists. You go up the ladder. You have a this route, that route, et cetera.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You have to keep testing it against objective reality. Okay, they said something. Did it happen or did it not happen? So here, here's an easy one. Alex Jones, for a long time, especially under Obama, kept saying”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Once you realize that it becomes easier. That's why I'm trying to unplug people from the matrix. Because once you realize this propaganda, oh my God, it gets infinitely easier to start telling what's true or not true.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And that one was so indoctrinated that it was tough to let go. So at Penn, I write that op-ed, et cetera. And then over the course of time, and so Anna and I disagree on things from time to time. And we've been co-hosting now for, she's been at Young Tourist for 18 years and co-hosting for almost 18. And so she's Armenian. And by the way, I love America. I mean, look at, we came to America because we love this country, land of hope and opportunity. That's part of why I fight so hard for the average American, for the American idea. So here's a Turk in Armenia doing a show together, and it becomes the number one online news show. That's the beauty of America, right? So she's telling me things and we're having some on-air discussions about it, et cetera. And then it just dawned on me like, no, this was, this too was obviously propaganda. So at that point,”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“After the mass march. The Forced Marches He says they returned to the area fat and entirely unmassacred. Okay, I'm like, hey, that's an American colonel that's saying that. So that's obviously true. You see, they didn't happen, right? Or at least in the way that the Armenians say. Now as a grown-up, I look at it and I go, are you kidding me? That guy's obviously trying to get a contract with the Turkish government, right? Nobody returns from a forced march fat and entirely unmassacred, right? So that's propaganda. And so”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Shamericum Day Parade, like 10 or 12 years old. It's in the middle of New York because I grew up in Jersey. That's why I got to know those fights. And we would chant in Turkish Turkey is the biggest country, there is no other country that's even big. And I was like, this is crazy. I'm like, Dad, isn't this crazy? America's big, China's big. Why are we chanting this nonsensical chant, right? So that's the beginning of beginning to realize you're indoctrinated. I'm in college and I read about some battle that the Ottoman Empire lost. And I'm like, that can't be right. The Turks have only lost one war, World War I, right? And I was like, oh my God, I'm an idiot. I got taught that in third grade in Turkey. Of course that's not true. That's ridiculously untrue, right? All those thoughts are in your head you don't even realize. And so on the Armenian genocide, I read the Turkish version. And the Turkish version has all of these evidence, right? So it's real in that it exists, but here I'll give you a great example of it. I think it was Colonel Chester, some random American military guy after World War I, and he says about the Armenians.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, so You're a kid, you're taught a whole bunch of things, that's the software that we talked about earlier, right? So, cultural software is media, family, friends, social media, et cetera. And so growing up in any tribe, whether it's a religious tribe or an ethnic tribe, you're going to get indoctrinated into that tribe's way of thinking. So you take a Turkish person who's super progressive, loves Bernie, believes with all their heart and peace. And you tell them something about Kurds and they'll say, oh, no, not those guys. They're terrible and evil, and we have to do what we do to them. Ah, you see, that's the tribe taking over, right? And so you tell any religious person what's wrong with the other religions. They're like, oh, yeah, yeah, that's totally true. You get to their religion, tribe takes over, know how dare you, I'm offended, right? So I grew up with Turkish propaganda. So I'll tell you a couple of funny instances of it. When we were kids, we'd go Turkish.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“A great irony is I actually totally agree with that. That's why measure the physical 100. Technique's going to win every almost every time. We're having a debate about whether it's eight or one or 0.01. Either way, technique wins. We agree.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And it's such a minute disagreement because so take me out of it. So you take out the willpower part of blah, blah, blah. I think it's one to two percent. Yeah, he could catch the guy on about, you know, get lucky.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, you don't think a big guy that still is in good shape, that was a wrestler, that's been in a lot of street fights, you still think 0.0001.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Brother, we've been around 22 years in the toughest industry in the world. Right. Do you have any idea how hard it is to run a 75 person company and make money online and survive after all the guys who took billions of dollars went down?”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's about willpower, right? So if Joe has a 92% chance, in my opinion, of knocking me out or beating me because he has the skill and he's trained and he knows what he's doing, so all the willpower in the world isn't going to help you if you get kicked outside the head, right? In the unlikely circumstances that I've worn him down, right, that I'm a little bit more in the ballgame because I got willpower. For Alex, he doesn't have the willpower I have. Because to me, the idea of losing the Alex Jones is unthinkable. I would do anything not to lose anything.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So I've been punching the face, I don't know, dozens of times in my life. I used to start fight spy saying, I'll let you take the first punch. Okay. So I didn't start the fights. They just started because they'd punched me in the face. And for Alex, the main thing. And also true for Rogan is.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Every wrestler's going to win. Every MMA fighter is going to win, and every time they win. And they're like, Dad, how'd you know that? Because we get trained. We're not going to lose to a non-restler in a wrestling contest. It's not going to happen, right? So you can get lucky, but it's unlikely. So one wrestling. Now that was from a long time ago, but at least you know the mechanics, right? Number two, I've gotten into about 30 actual street fights in my life. And you can say street fights not the same as MMA. Of course, that's true, obviously true, right? But it's not no experience. It's some experience. And the most important part of a street fight is being able to take a punch to the face. Okay.”
2024-08-30 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #441 – Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source