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Charles Barkley

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  1. “Dude, I was bothered by that because. Some people in the black community say, I support the cops. And I says, You damn right I support the cops. I'm always support the cops. That does not mean I want unarmed black men killed or police doing anything illegal. Two things can be correct. First of all, if it wasn't for the cops, we would be living in the wild, wild west. But some of my critics”

    2018-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 230 - Charles Barkley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. “Racism, one I'm a friend of mine, PK Subah and his dad, he plays for the Nashville Predators. And I was with his dad one night. And we were talking. His dad said one of the greatest things I've ever heard. He says, racism is a distraction. What the real problem is And we sit down and had a great conversation, and that's the point I want to make. We spend so much time talking about racism. Over here, we say like, wait a minute. Somebody called me a name and things like that. That's just ignorant. I ignore that. But how do we balance the economic situation? That, to me, is the biggest problem we got in this country right now.”

    2018-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 230 - Charles Barkley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. “Then I think about First of all, anybody who said race relations on better, that's just idiotic. Racism does exist, always has, and unfortunately always will. But for people to say things aren't better, that's just ridiculous. I mean I can actually go and enter restaurant I want to. I can go to the same bathroom and drink out of the same water fountain. That's stuff. But what I talk about is economic racism. You don't give people economic opportunity. And I actually think that we spend too much time talking about race. America is divided by economics. Racism does exist. I'm not giving anybody a pass on that. But what America has become risk people against poor people. We put all the poor people in bad neighborhoods. We sent them to bad schools. We don't give them economic opportunity.”

    2018-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 230 - Charles Barkley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. “Won't look in the mirror and say, My life sucks because of me, then he came right after President Obama and there was some people like, wow, we got a black president. They're not happy with that. And I think it was just a perfect storm. And listen, I never talk bad about the president. Like, I'm going to be factual. I've never been more angry and disgusted at this situation than I am now. This turmoil every single day. The tweeting, the hiring and firing. Like, dude, I'm blessed and you are too. Like, it really ain't going to have a big effect on our life. But I actually have humanity. I want everybody to have a good life. I want everybody to have a good job. I want their kids to go to school. I want their kids to be safe. I want everybody to have economic opportunity. And we have spent the last year talking about Russia every single day.”

    2018-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 230 - Charles Barkley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. “I think that's part of what we kind of all I think that some of his appeal, but I think nobody ever wants to look in the mirror and say it's my fault. So every person who can't get a job says, yeah, he's right. Some Mexican is taking my job. I'm like, well, wait, wait, did you want that job? Number one, or did you put yourself, did you work hard enough, educate yourself enough to get deserve that job? So it's easy to blame somebody else. That's factors in. And then you got the people who like, yeah, these Muslims are doing this. Or then you got the thing like, well, blacks are taken over. I'm like, first of all, most people are black people. We're not taking over. I think he reached a demographic.”

    2018-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 230 - Charles Barkley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. “Important to me, it's very important to me because You know, David, these people watching, they're never going to see these guys I talk about in person more than likely. So I want them, I want to give them an honest account whether I like the guy or not. My job on television is to be honest because there's somebody in Montana, South Dakota, LA, Maine, Rhode Island. They're supposed to believe what I say. And I take great pride in that.”

    2018-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 230 - Charles Barkley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. “Some amazing teacher, Mr. Honeycutt, Mr. Copeland. I've had some amazing teachers who have a profound effect upon my life even today. And we spend so much time Worrying about negativity instead of the positivity. I don't do a lot of baggage. What I mean by baggage is I don't waste a lot of time on stuff that I can't control. I don't. I'm going to look at the positive side.”

    2018-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 230 - Charles Barkley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. “It's complex. It's complex because it's not simple. Because number one, there's some personal responsibility, the breakup of the black family is a big deal. We got to find a way to, we should be able to fire teachers if they're not doing their job. So it's a lot of things that come into play. The notion that we can't fire teachers, that's a joke. But like I say, there is some personal responsibility of the breakup of our families in the black community. So it's not simple. It's not a simple fix, but we can never give up. You know, I speak to teachers quite a bit, and they're like, they get frustrated. I said, don't worry about the ones who fail. Worry about the ones who you help. There are some amazing teachers I've had in my life, Ms. Plump, Ms. Turk, Ms. Hill, Ms. Robinson, Ms. Stone.”

    2018-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 230 - Charles Barkley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. “But you know what? It's great to get a free education. Is everything perfect? You know, I hear these guys get on TV and talk about, well, we got to pay these players. I said, okay, how are you going to do it? Are you paying the basketball team? Are you paying the football team? Are you playing the swimming team? Are you playing the diving team? Are you paying the girls teams? It's not that simple, but I never want young black kids. I don't want to hear anybody ever tell young black kids getting a free education is not a great thing.”

    2018-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 230 - Charles Barkley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. “Education, the problem is with black kids. They have brainwashed our kids to think they can only be great in athletics and entertainment. And 99.9% of people have to go out and get a real job. I never talk to these kids about athletics. But like I say, they're not going to be Charles Barkler, Michael Jordan, LeBron James, Bert Russell. I said, first of all, if you are, bless you. But the truth of the matter is most people in the world have to go out and get an education. And that goes on something else I talk about a lot. You know, the college system is not 100% great.”

    2018-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 230 - Charles Barkley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. “And I say, you know what, Mr. Russell, you will never hear me complain about my taxes again. And it was a very interesting lesson for me because I do think rich people should pay more taxes. I'm blessed to be one of them and we should pay more in taxes. But I learned my lesson. I never complain about taxes.”

    2018-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 230 - Charles Barkley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. “Is Mohammed Ali Moses Malone and Bill Russell? Those are the three most important basketball athletic figures in my life. Bill Russell called me one time and you know Bill I don't even call him Bill I call him Mr. Russell everybody does he says to me he called me one day he says and I saw his number come up he says Charles Barclay I said yes sir Mr. Russell He said hey you grew up in Alabama right I said yes sir He says Did you go to public school I said, yes, sir He says, did the cops ever come to your neighborhood? I said, yes, sir. He said, okay. In the houses ever catch on fire and the firemen come? He said, I said, yes, sir. He says, well, I don't want to see your black ass on TV complaining about your taxes anymore. And I says, what do you mean? He says, so now you got money. You don't want to help other people out. But when you were poor, other people took care of you.”

    2018-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 230 - Charles Barkley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. “You know, people talk about economic opportunity. There's only economic opportunity if you're rich. That's like the tax bill they plan. I was joking on our TV show. He always talk about rich people trickle down economics. Rich people ain't going to trickle money down to the poor. I don't ever believe that. But we spend all our time talking about stuff that's irrelevant. I don't care what the president did in his life back then. I want to know how we're going to fix Dhaka. how we're going to fix the public school system and things like that.”

    2018-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 230 - Charles Barkley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. “Well, it makes minorities feel like they aren't welcome. I live in Arizona. I think the Hispanics are amazing people. I think they do a lot of work. The blacks and whites don't want to do. I think they work their behind off. Do they have some bad Hispanics? Of course they do. Do we have some bad Muslim? Of course we do. But I believe that most of the majority of Muslim people in this country are amazing, hard-working people. But the president has done an awful job of trying to be inclusive. When you talk about building a wall, when you talk about important, like right now, we're spending all our time talking about Stormy Daniels, Russia. We got all these kids with DACA who we need, who are amazing people who we need to stay here. We never talk about them. I mean, I'm so disgusted with the whole thing, to be honest with you, because we got the worst public school system in the world.”

    2018-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 230 - Charles Barkley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. “You know, I'm leery to call anybody racist, but some of the things he has said, because you know, if you really pay attention, which I pay attention to politics. Minority does something. He calls them out But when that white kid shot up at church in Charleston, he didn't say let's deport all whites. When that guy shot up at church down in Texas, he didn't say, let's get rid of all whites. And I hate to be more, but talking about these things, but he only signifies, he only talks about his immigration plan when it concerns minorities. But when some whites undone some crazy things, he never says, hey, let's support all these white people. Even you go back to Charlottesville. He didn't condemn them white supremacists. I mean...”

    2018-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 230 - Charles Barkley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. “I think he panders to his base. And also, I think another thing Think the reaction was I don't know if he won the presidency. I think they were voting against Ms. Clinton more than anything. I really believe that. I think it's like they had two choices and they're like, we don't like her. And this guy here is out of the norm. He wants to quote unquote drain the swamp. I think that's why she lost the election. She lost it. He didn't win it. But his actions, the way he's treated minorities has emboldened these other racists to be more bold, plain and simple.”

    2018-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 230 - Charles Barkley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. “Yes, of course he does encourage it. The way he talks about Muslims, the way he talks about Hispanics, some of his interaction with blacks, he definitely encourages it. And I feel bad because...”

    2018-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 230 - Charles Barkley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  18. “It's kind of like an overreaction. You know, there's always when something bad happens in people's eyes, there's a reaction. The situation when President Trump is a total overreaction. And I just feel bad because you see anti-Semitism, racism. People feel emboldened to do things and say things now.”

    2018-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 230 - Charles Barkley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  19. “My friends, and I got really emotional and tear-eyed, and they're like, dude, are you all right? He says, you guys don't understand. I'm from the south. And the notion that in my life time there's a black president, I'm in shock. I mean, I just couldn't believe it. You know what's interesting when he was running for president in the initial polling he wasn't doing as well as you would think with African-American voters. And when we looked into it, it was because there was this profound feeling that he couldn't do it. And then he won the Iowa Caucuses in the state that was 98% white. And his numbers among African Americans, because it became a reality, like, hey, he could actually do this thing. Let me ask you, do you think that Trump is kind of a reaction to Obama? No question. No question to people.”

    2018-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 230 - Charles Barkley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  20. “You talk to him, you're like, oh, he is the smartest guy in the room. He has charisma. He has personality. And I can't remember, he's going to be something amazing one day. I never thought he was going to be president. I never thought in my lifetime I'd see a black president. And I remember the night he got elected. I was sitting around with a bunch of...”

    2018-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 230 - Charles Barkley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  21. “And as a country and as a man, and everybody had to challenge themselves, if you're still hung up on race after 55 years, you need to take a good hard look at yourself in the mirror. And yet you did an interview in 2005 with my old boss, Barack Obama, just after he got elected to the Senate. And you wrote some very and said some very nice things about him. And you said he has the qualities of someone who could run for president of the United States, but you didn't believe that he could get elected president of the United States. Oh, I never thought of my lifetime we'd have a black president. Never thought that. But what I said was... He has the it fa”

    2018-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 230 - Charles Barkley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  22. “But to get back to your original question, well, it goes right back to the beginning, doesn't it? I mean, that's sort of a story that courses through our history from slavery. But we should grow as people. We should grow as a country. You know, Muhammad Ali, I was reading up on him when he passed away, and he said, if you're the same person at 50 you were at 20, you wasted 30 years.”

    2018-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 230 - Charles Barkley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  23. “Factory, but we didn't feel like we were poor. We didn't know it, but we were. But we never felt like that. We always had meals. We always had good clothing. They did an amazing job. And were you, you said you don't like to characterize, but race was you were born in the year when the four little girls were killed. In Birmingham, yeah. Held in the church in Birmingham. There had to be some sense of edge. There was always an edge, but you didn't know what it was until you started getting older. Like I say, you know the really sad thing about all this stuff is... They bombed the church the year I was born. And now in 2018, we still have a race problem. So I just turned 55 so I can count. So for 55 years, we still had the BS of racism going on.”

    2018-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 230 - Charles Barkley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  24. “Slips my mind right now. The president of South Africa. Amandela. Nessa Mandela, excuse me, I apologize, America. But she always talked about, always remember these people. I mean, she always talked about it. Even when I was, especially when I was a little kid, even when I became a teenager and started becoming, she don't forget because she's the reason that Muhammad Ali is the greatest sports influence in my life. I mean, she talked about these people all the time. And I really appreciate her giving me that foundation. She worked in a meatpacking plant. My mom was a maid, and my grandmother worked in a meatpacking factory. And they worked so hard because, you know, I've had two brothers who passed away. So it was four of us total in the beginning. But they worked so hard because obviously you're not making a lot of money as a maid and you're not making a lot of money in the meat.”

    2018-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 230 - Charles Barkley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  25. “In those early days, maybe it was the first day that your grandmother took you to school and passed some protesters and had a pistol in her purse just in case. Well, my grandmother is a regular. She's the greatest person ever in my life, but she's a regular anti-Oakley. She was always packing heat. My grandmother, she was tough. She didn't take any BS off anybody. But she always had her peace and was not afraid to use it if push came to shove. She also was part of you lived right near Birmingham? Yes. She was involved in that civil rights movement in the 50s and the 60s. My grandmother always growing up, talked about... Civil rights. She talked about Dr. Martin Luther King, Mecca Evers, even Malcolm X, even”

    2018-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 230 - Charles Barkley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  26. “Doing segregation integration. And we got driven. There was no bus service. That's how early this was. So Mr. Allen drove me and two other kids to the school. And obviously we're kids. We don't understand all the stuff that's going on. But it taught me a lot about life that I actually use today because there were more people who were nice to us and who weren't nice to us. And I try to use that in time I'm involved with a conversation on race. You can't blanket any group. I mean, I'm very particular about that when I have that conversation. You don't blank it. Like all Muslims are not terrorists. All Hispanics are not illegal immigrants. I always parse my words because I think it's important. I think I saw an interview years ago with your mom who said that”

    2018-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 230 - Charles Barkley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  27. “Charles, good to see you. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Lots to talk about, but I want to start by going backward and talking about Leeds, Alabama, where you grew up. I read somewhere about your first day at the Leeds Elementary School and that there were some folks who weren't that happy that you were there because you were one of the first black students to integrate this school. Yeah, it was surreal because there was an older guy named Mr. Allen. I'll never forget Mr. Allen. He drove me and two other kids because there was an all-black school in my neighborhood. And this is the first time we started segregating.”

    2018-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 230 - Charles Barkley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source