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“Cornell West, Noam Chomsky, you can go through the list AOC. A lot of prominent leftists did say, there's no comparison, you've got to vote for Biden. But the reality is that existential threat to democracy is the key question. And a lot of people don't think Donald Trump is they think the guardrails held and it was all exaggerated. I remember people telling me in 2019, oh man, you don't know anything about America. But you're from England. If he loses, the Secret Servers just walk him out. And I'm like, he ain't going to go quietly. I said this. I wrote this in 2019. There will be riots. He will refuse to accept the election result. What do you think is going to happen in 2024? It's going to be 2020 on steroids.”
2023-07-27 · Pod Save America · Indictment Excitement (with Chris Christie!) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Threat to democracy, or don't you? Is he just a normal? Is he just a normal? Sadly, John, a lot of these people on the left and the right, some people, I want to say a lot, because a lot of people. Online people, as I say, a lot of the left in 2020 did back Joe Biden, right? Yeah. Angela David. Very responsibly.”
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“Oldfish memories. We've already kind of moved the Trump era. We've already kind of Charlottesville all so far away. Oh, forget all. No, I go around. I'm going to go around shouting about all that four years of chaos of a guy who was the worst president in American history probably. And the idea that he will be the nominee again and that people who care about the climate will care about these issues, as you just said, would risk letting him back in, even though they have very good objections. I respect the objections to Biden and the Democrats on certain issues. That, to me, seems mad. Sorry.”
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“Someone other than Democrat or Republican, it is not going to elect that person, but it is going to help the right winger in this case. Now, we can argue about 2016, about Gary Johnson and Jill Stein and who influenced more. I get that. There's lots of arguments to be had. But now we've corn out. Of course, that's going to take votes away from Joe Biden. If Liz Cheney were to run as a third party candidate, maybe he would go, well, maybe that helps Biden. But right now, if it's just Cornel West or if it's RFK Jr., if he decides to run third party, then we know who that's going to hurt in places like Wisconsin, where Joe Biden won by 20,000 votes out of 3.2 million votes cast, like ludicrously close election. So, yeah, it bothers me. And I see, you know, as a Muslim, I think about.”
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“Oh well, I'm not going to win an election, right? I'm not, sadly. As you say, there's a difference between what you say on the doorstep, which of course, you know, if I was on the doorstep, I'd be taking a much different stance. But what I'm saying now as a person sitting on Pod Save America is saying, let us be clear.”
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“That is true. That is a true statement I would. We can talk about the doorstep for a long time. I mean, as you know, John, I just wrote a book about arguing, debating, persuading a lot of the social. Thank you very much. A lot of the social science out there in the importance of listening, on the importance of empathy, how you win people over. There's been a lot of social science done on, for example, winning people over on transgender rights, just spending time on the doorstep, hearing people's objections out can actually have a massive effect four, six, nine months down the line. All the data is out there. I get the importance of that. And I'm not saying not to do that. But on the other hand, I'm not an activist. I'm not knocking on doors. I'm not a campaigner. That's not my job. My job. I'm a journalist. I'm a commentator. My job is to say what I think is true. My job is to share my opinion, my analysis. And my opinion analysis is that, yes, if you vote for a third party candidate, that will increase the chances of fascist coming back of another Muslim ban, right? Of more child separation. So that is what I'm going to say. And if that offends people, upsets people.”
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“Can't really vote through it by the candidate that will let Trump back in. On the other hand, if they're the kind of people who are going to let Trump back in, what are you offering them? It's a two-way street. On the one hand, the left has to understand what the greater threat is, and it is fascism. I mean, Cornell West said that in 2020. What's interesting is Cornell West, while he backed Jill Stein in 2016. In 2020, he endorsed Biden saying fascists are at the door. So that argument is fairly straightforward. But if on the other hand, if you have a lot of liberals and centrists saying, oh, look at these lefties, they let Trump win. Well, if the lefties are that influential that they can let Trump win, maybe you should do a little bit more for the left, I would say.”
2023-07-27 · Pod Save America · Indictment Excitement (with Chris Christie!) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Economy, our healthcare, our foreign policy, things that the Democrats have failed on or turned the blind eye to. So I get the disappointment as well. Now, the argument then becomes to the people who are disappointed, you can say justifiably.”
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“Great question, and I saw some of that ridiculous blowback to the AOC stuff. I'm torn because I could talk about all the good things he's done. We talked about the economy. There's a lot of bad things he's done, especially on the foreign policy front, don't get me started on Israel, Palestine, Netanyahu, don't get me started on MBS, a conversation for another day. I've been very critical and healthcare. I think he dropped the ball on that. But let me just, on the election front, I am torn because on the one hand, I am one of those people who, like yourself, says, come on, you cannot vote third party when fascism is at the door. We have a two-party system, a vote for a third-party candidate helps the fascists. But I've been consistent on that. In fact, I had known Chomsky on my podcast years ago before 2020 saying, yeah, you've got to vote Democrat. Even Chomsky came out, which he does every four years, to be fair to Noam. She comes out and says, you got to vote for the Democrat Republicans to the climate. Even Gnome gets it from the left. Having said that, I'm also someone who sees himself personal on the left. I am very disappointed in many things about Hurricane.”
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“But the tax credit expired because of Republicans and Joe Manchin, right? So even the negative stuff, he can still frame it in the way that, yeah, child poverty is bad. And the guy tried to cut it. Republicans stopped me. Student debt is bad. I'm the guy who tried to relieve it. Republican Supreme Court stopped me. So there is still, as you say, a framing that can be done that says, even with the pockets of pain, help me out. I think one area where he hasn't said enough and he's failed to do enough is healthcare still, especially in the wake of the pandemic. Like there's been no mention, I know he's not a Medicare for all guy. I get that, but like public option, stuff that he talked about in the campaign. We've not heard anything about that. And people are hurting a lot after the pandemic, especially with people being thrown off Medicaid. I think you could do much more on the healthcare front.”
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“Especially because it deals with the age issue as well. Why is this old dude running again? Why doesn't he just retire? If he can make a case while I'm not retiring because I didn't finish this stuff. And also, even the negative stuff, and look, my producers and I were writing this script on the economy. We have to put in, people are still hurting. We have to put in all the qualifiers, the caveats. You go through the caveat, child poverty up at 12 million. But hold on. He got it down to 9 million.”
2023-07-27 · Pod Save America · Indictment Excitement (with Chris Christie!) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Thousand jobs. The same number reported on differently. So there's a lot of issues going on here. And I think, look, Biden cannot rely on the media. He cannot rely on anyone else but himself to go out and make the case. And if you say, you know, might it sound out of touch? Oh, well, right. The people have already started to make up their minds. We've just been talking about swing voters. We've been talking about people living in low information bubbles. You've got to go out and make the case. People still think inflation is at a record high because they heard that all of 2022. They have no idea it's a 3%. To go back to what you said at the start of this conversation, most people are not news junkies like you and I. And people don't just pull out their calculator and go, oh, I'm better off, worse off. I will support this president, not that president. That's not how it works, right? It's about narratives. It's about how you feel. It's the mood in the country. Biden is the guy who has to lead on that. There's a reason it's called a bully pulpit. And he's got the facts on his side. It's not like he has to go out and lie about it. But the point is, they do need to talk about this stuff.”
2023-07-27 · Pod Save America · Indictment Excitement (with Chris Christie!) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So all these good indicators and yet people, not just Republicans, but people across the board say, well, the economy ain't so good, it's not doing so well. Now, part of that is partisanship. Part of that is media coverage. Part of it is real people still struggling with things like child poverty and student debt, real issues. But, you know, Democrats need to get better at messaging. I've said that for a long time. And if you're not going to bang your own drum, who is? Because I know that people like to say, I'm an MSNBC host. I know people like to say MSNBC, Fox. No. Fox is a propaganda channel. Liberal media, quote-unquote, may be liberal, quote unquote, but it doesn't act as a propaganda channel in the same way. It's not out there pushing the administration's case. If anything, it's the opposite, right? There's a hack gap. There's journalists going out of their way to be, well, you know, it might be good figures, but what about this? And on my show, we went through all the times that Trump got 200,000 new jobs and got praised for it by the liberal media. And Biden got 200,000 jobs. And it was like, well, disappointing 200.”
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“I'm of the view that you've got nothing to lose, right? At this point, Biden's ratings are bad. People keep saying the economy is bad. I just did a deep dive on my show on Peacock, which is out this week, on this exact subject. The economy is doing really, really well. All the things you mentioned from the Stein tweet, you know, 3% inflation. Unemployment at its lowest level since Neil Armstrong stepped on the moon, growth, recession avoided, all these amazing manufacturing booming, real wages up, even income inequality. The thing that we on the left have banged not about for a while, falling.”
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“And Donald Trump. Don't give a shit. They're telling the culture's like, we don't care. Yeah, it's all just we need to, you know, it's all rationalize whatever you have to rationalize. And, you know, bless you, Mitt Romney, bless you, Chris Christie. Like, this is done. It's over. You're wasting your time.”
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“They shouldn't be in that party. The party's gone. The base is gone. We don't like saying this, John, because those of us who talk about politics, we want to have solutions. We want to have some vision for the future. The reality is done. It's finished. It's over. The GOP's gone. I've been saying this for seven, eight years now. And if people still don't believe it, I don't know what else to say. The man is about to get the nomination for the third time after everything he put the country through for four years, after the insurrection in Republicans found their spines for about 36 hours. And yet he's going to win again, perhaps bigger than last time in the nomination. So this party's got, look, here's one poll number for you. There's a poll out this week. I think it's a market poll, which shows that 50% of Republicans told pollsters that they don't believe there were any classified documents in Donald Trump's home. They don't believe it. Donald Trump says there were classified documents. Trump's argument is not that they weren't. He says, I have a right to have them. Trump voters, half of them think he didn't even have them. You cannot have them.”
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“Their own base anymore. That's the key point, John. And I feel like Emperor's new clothes, we need to say this. I think the liberal media has been complicit in this nonsense for so long, for the way we push up never-trumpers, the way we kind of love sharing clips of Chris Christie. And I'm looking forward to the Chris Christie interview. But the man has, hey, no chance of winning, of course. No, and B, like he's lying about his party, right? This is the fundamental problem with all these Republicans.”
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“They don't show up in the rallies for Rhonda Santis. So who's left? Nikki Haley, what is your reason for running? Nikki Haley, are you really just running for VP? So if there's no real, if they don't know why they're running and what their strategy for victory is, then surprise, surprise, Donald Trump just hoovers it up for a third time.”
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“Exactly. If Donald Trump's in the 30s, then this starts to make sense. Like, what are the coalitions? What are the people who can pull out and back someone else? We're not in that space. And the reason is, the reality is that none of the other candidates know why they're running, right? They just don't have a reason to run. Mike Pence, what is his reason for running? Because I did great in the Trump Pence administration. All right, then back Donald Trump. Oh, wait. He almost got you killed. You know, Tim Scott, as I say, Tim Scott running, you know, I'm the guy who evangelicals level. Evangelicals love Trump more. And you're the guy who also defended Trump for four years. Every time people said Trump's a racist, you were the guy who came out and said, no, no, he's not. He criticized him over Charlottesville, but then never, you know, never went full on. Similarly, as you say, Ron DeSand is Trump without the baggage. I mean, nobody wants Trump without the baggage, apparently. Apparently, the Republican electorate likes the baggage.”
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“Person that can stop Trump. I fear that ship may have sailed. You know, Tim Scott is now being talked about as the next guy down to stop Trump. He's got a lot of money. He's liked by a lot of people. Obviously, he's black in a party that's done very badly with minorities for obvious reasons. But he's also a massive Trump supporter. He's also a guy who completely backed Trump to the hilt for four years. Is he going to be the guy who takes down Donald Trump? I don't, I mean, I said this a while ago and I hate to be, you know, I hate to be proven. I wish I was proved wrong, you know, wrong. I don't see how Donald Trump's get beaten by any of these people.”
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“So I think, and Benji Salin, writing for Semaphore today, makes this point as well, that it's kind of out of date already. This is not 2016. This is not 16 candidates where Donald Trump is a kind of outsider who's got 30, 40% of the vote. And if you take all the other 16, well, then they could beat him, let Ted Cruz go one-on-one against him much earlier on in the race. We've already kind of, they already kind of tried to coalesce around Des Anders, you know, the Fox did and some big Republican donors did. That hasn't worked, right? DeSandis is now polling 35 points behind, I think, in the latest 538 average. So, you know, you put all of the rivals together, DeSantis, Tim Scott, Vivek Ramaswamy, you know, all of them together, Nikki Haley, Mike Pence, Chris Christie, I can't remember who the other also rans are polling at zero. They don't come anywhere close to Trump's share of the vote. So this idea that if you could just get behind one.”
2023-07-27 · Pod Save America · Indictment Excitement (with Chris Christie!) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Every time he gets indicted, his approval rating with the base goes up, not down. And the rivals, not just as sanders, all of them, don't know what to do with the indictment. They don't know how to respond to these indictments. And over the next six months, that's not going to change, right? Donald Trump's legal trouble is only getting worse, so he'll be more of a martyr to the base. And Ron DeSanders, we're going to see more and more of and people are going to like less and less of him. So I don't see how it turns around. People talk about, well, if Trump goes to prison, I don't see Trump going to prison this side of November 2024 or ever. So I just don't see how he comes back. This is not 2016. This is not Trump against 16 people divided field. It's actually Trump with over 50% support and a 35-point lead over second place Rom DeSantis. That's pretty huge.”
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“And remember, in January, he was nearly neck and neck with Trump in the polls. He came in as this big star. He was hyped up by both conservative and liberal media. And he was a few points behind in some polls in some states he was ahead of Trump. And it's all crashed and burned in the six months since. And I think there's two reasons for that. Number one is what we just discussed. The more people see him, the more they don't like him. He's not very good. He's got bad judgments. And number two, Donald Trump keeps getting indicted.”
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“Number one, he's gotten terminally online press team who just don't understand the real world and hire people like Nate Hockman. And number two, he's just an unlikable guy. Like I saw someone floating the let dissantis be DeSantis line, which I think every political strategist does at some point. Echoes Barlow line from the West Wing. And it's like, let dissanders be dissanders. No, that's the last thing you want to do. Because the more people see the real dissenters, the more they don't like him. The man is an anti-social, charmless, short-tempered, thin-skinned charisma-free zone. Benjamin Nixon, the writer, calls him the borg of charisma. He's got the charisma of a borg for the Star Trek fans amongst you. Why would you want to see more of the real Ron DeSantis?”
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“Endorsed Donald Trump. What does that say about the governor of Florida? That the Republicans in his own state are backing Donald Trump over him. I think who was it? Was it Stuby? Is that how you pronounce his name? Greg Stuby, the Republican House member who said that when he fell off a roof, he was in hospital and DeSantis never really called him and Trump called him and charmed him. It was like, imagine being less compassionate and less considerate of your fellow man than Donald J. Trump. But that's where DeSantis is in Florida. On Byron Donalds, what's interesting about that is they're attacking this black Republican who comes out against them. They're doubling down on the slavery stuff. Jeremy Redfern, who's the Deputy Press Secretary, one of these terminally online DeSantis trolls alongside Pouchore and Brian Griff and anyone who spent any time on political Twitter knows these people. They're the DeSantis people who just spend all their life fighting with people on Twitter. He spent the last 24 hours just doubling down, defending everything to do with this curriculum. So, you know, then we wonder, why is DeSantis losing? Why isn't he connected with all movable people?”
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“This hardcore Freedom Caucus member. First of all, John, we got to stop and say, Baron Donald's isn't just the only black Republican from Florida. He's part of a Florida House delegation, almost all of whom...”
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“The flavory stuff, right? You got the Florida educational standards around, right? The new African American history standards, big controversy over a few lines in there, including one that suggests slaves benefited. It was of personal benefit because they picked up skills. And DeSantis has asked about this. Now, he can run away from it and say, nothing to do with me. Or he can say, I'm with it 100% because I think it'll help appeal to some of my white nationalist space. He can't decide. So he stands at a press conference. He's like, nothing doing me. It wasn't me. They did get skills that they could parlay into later life. First of all, who uses the word parlay in everyday life? And number two, as Chris Christie pointed out, what kind of leader are you that when something happens in your state, your first response is shaggy style, it wasn't me.”
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“I had missed the pens. Of course, Pence comed in with that angle. I mean, for me, the RFK thing was so interesting, John, because till now, DeSantis has been playing FTSE with the anti-vaxers, right? He's kind of anti-vaxx light. He's anti-vaxx adjacent. I'm not anti-vaxes. I'm just against mandates. I don't push the booster in my state. I investigate the companies behind it. But I'm not anti-vax. But in the interview that he does where he says RFK Jr. CDC FDA, he explicitly says on the medical stuff, I'm with him. I like all that stuff. So he basically outs himself as an anti-vaxer in my view in that interview. And his opponent should really be throwing that at him. But of course, that would be in a general. In a Republican primary being anti-vaxx doesn't cost you anything actually boosts you.”
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“The Times, of course, reported that the homophobic video they made where they bragged about DeSanders basically wanted to erase trans people, that was also apparently reportedly made in-house and then farmed out to make it look like it was organic. So everything about the DeSanders campaign is so fake and desperate for authenticity and grassroots support, which they just don't have. So, you know, watching the Desertist car crash is fascinating, John. It really is. And again, I don't want to sound like the I told you so vindicated guy, but I was one of those people six months, eight months ago saying, oh yeah, bring DeSantis on the national spotlight. Bring him out of his Florida safe space. Let's see how well that glass draw survives. And, you know, he's 35 points behind Donald Trump.”
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“Embarrassment of a The question answer itself there, John? I mean, let's not forget, it's not like he came up with the Nazi symbols after working for Rhonda Sadis. And that was the telltale sound. DeSander's like, we had no idea. No, no. Nate Hochman had already been attacked for doing a Twitter spaces with Nick Fuentes, remember him, Holocaust denier, Trump, Thanksgiving dinner guest. And Hockman said that Fuentes was better for young conservatives than Ben Shapiro. And I'm no fan of Ben Shapiro. But if you think Nick Fuentes is better for young conservatives than Ben Shapiro, then maybe that's your neo-Nazi alarm bell when you're hiring people. So he already got a pass on that. He got hired by the DeSander Steve New York Times gave this guy a big op-ed. He was seen as the kind of face of the New Young Wright. The problem with the New Young Right is lots is coming out about what they say in private. And it's not so nice. He creates this video according to Axios. He then tries to pass it off. By the way, it's not the first time that the Sanders campaign, John, are accused of doing this last weekend. No.”
2023-07-27 · Pod Save America · Indictment Excitement (with Chris Christie!) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And in that scenario, an impeachment of him may drive up core support amongst Democrats. As you say, may lead to a rallying around from the democratic base, some of whom are disappointed in Biden over certain issues. But it would also, as you say, we don't know how it will apply with swing voters. Can”
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“If I was in the White House I mean, look, we got to be clear here with the Pod Save audience, whether whatever you think about Joe Biden, his poll ratings are not good right now. They are not where they should be.”
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“It's a very terminally online story. Most average voters don't know what the big guy means. I've never heard of some of the references that these people make. I don't know whether the house GOP, but I do think it will help them in a presidential race, even as you say, even if it's the margins. And by the way, before anyone says that you and I are being cynical in making this accusation, Kevin McCarthy, the man who's currently speaker, is also the guy who went on live television and to the consternation of his fellow GOP colleagues, said, Going off to Benghazi on Hillary and look at her poll ratings. So he's got”
2023-07-27 · Pod Save America · Indictment Excitement (with Chris Christie!) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Don't know here's where Trump's different, of course, John the reason is why I don't think the first impeachment hit home is because you could have impeached him for a dozen things and they chose one of the most complicated foreign related stories to do. People like me would have impeached him for obstruction of justice over much earlier or for emolument school, stuff that people understand. He's making money in the White House when he shouldn't. That's the one they decided to go on because Democrats thought this would be the Nat Sec one. This will be the really, that's why Pelosian code decided to belatedly after dragging their feet impeachment. So you're right in that sense, but I think it's very different with Biden. With Biden, they've struggled to come up with a narrative that sticks to Biden. Remember in 2020, they tried, he's old and demented. That didn't work. They tried that he's a kind of crazy left-wing communist. That didn't work. And so they've never really been able to gin up the hate against Biden that they did against Hillary, that they did against Barack Obama, that they did against Bill Clinton. So this now they think maybe is sticking, the bribery, the big guy. I mean, the one way it will definitely hurt them in the campaigns is.”
2023-07-27 · Pod Save America · Indictment Excitement (with Chris Christie!) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The White House to Senate and the House. So let's be very serious about this for a moment. An impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden would certainly hurt Joe Biden going into 2024. Enough people would just hear the words bribery, bribery, bribery. And that's where they're doing this, right? They want both candidates in 2024 to be accused of corruption, to have been impeached, because that's the Republican way, right? It's not vote for my guy over your guys. Don't believe anyone, because that's how nihilism and fascism grows.”
2023-07-27 · Pod Save America · Indictment Excitement (with Chris Christie!) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Don't have anything, but meanwhile, while they say all that officially or to Capitol Hill reporters in the hallway, to sound very, very serious, they go on Fox and NewsMax and say, Joe Biden's a criminal. Joe Biden bribed people, just make completely wild, unsubstantiated claims. So it doesn't match. But, you know, as I say, it's inevitable. What I would say, though, is while we can laugh at the Republicans and laugh at Kevin McCarthy in the White House is kind of mocking conspiracy theorists. impeaching Joe Biden will hurt Joe Biden. I want to be consistent on this. I was one of those people who, when Democrats said, oh, if we impeach Donald Trump, it'll hurt us. I was one of those people who said, no, it won't, actually. It'll hurt the president. And I'm vindicated. I stand vindicated. Today we remember Donald Trump as a twice impeached president for a reason. But impeachments do hurt presidents. And Bill Clinton, people think, you know, there's conventional wisdom says Republicans got hurt impeaching Bill Clinton. Not true. Within 18 months of Bill Clinton not being convicted in the Senate, the Republicans are...”
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“Verified allegations where your star witness turns out to be an indicted accused Chinese arms dealer, whatever. I can't even keep track of what that guy is being accused of.”
2023-07-27 · Pod Save America · Indictment Excitement (with Chris Christie!) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You notice his very specific use of impeachment inquiry. It's just an inquiry to find the facts because Republicans love finding facts. But what's interesting is when the Democrats, of course, did the two impeachments and inquiries and committees and votes for Donald Trump. I'm old enough to remember Kevin McCarthy was one of those people who said, this will divide the country. This is partisan. We shouldn't be inflaming tensions. Democrats, he said, have been wanting to impeach Donald Trump since the day Trump became president. It was all projection, as usual, because it's exactly what Republicans are doing. MTG has wanted to impeach Biden from day one. This is, quote unquote, dividing the nation further. And of course, if you don't like impeaching Donald Trump for an actual phone call in which we have a transcript of him extorting a foreign leader, if you don't like impeaching Donald Trump for trying to get you all killed inside your government building, but you are okay with impeaching Joe Biden over this, as you say, nonsense form.”
2023-07-27 · Pod Save America · Indictment Excitement (with Chris Christie!) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He's been wanting to impeach Biden from day one. In fact, I think she brought in articles of impeachment within the first week of his presidency. So it doesn't surprise me. I think you keep doing this dance where he's for it. Maybe he's not for it. Maybe he tries to speak out of both sides of his mouth. That's Kevin McCarthy. But his caucus or his caucus. They're nuts. He can't control them. This was inevitable.”
2023-07-27 · Pod Save America · Indictment Excitement (with Chris Christie!) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Do we know he's changing his mind? I mean, as you said, you just played those clips. He's playing, you know, he chooses his words as carefully as he can for a speaker who has no power. Remember, John, this is a guy who came in, what, 15th ballot? He won 15th time round. If at first you don't succeed, try 14 more times. He got the job. We all know he came in as the weakest speaker ever. I reminded John, do you remember during Paul Ryan's speakership? Someone amended the Wikipedia page for invertebrates. Paul Ryan's photo. I just feel like sticking McCarthy, he's been way more spineless than Ryan ever was from January the 6th to Marjorie Taylor Green, QAnon, white supremacy, and now impeachment. And of course, Marjorie Taylor Green, you and I know, is the real power in the house. GOP Caucus. Yeah.”
2023-07-27 · Pod Save America · Indictment Excitement (with Chris Christie!) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source