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Chris Cuomo

lines on the record: 47
first: 2022-09-26
most recent: 2022-09-26
sittings or episodes: 1
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“I am no politician I hate politics. I would never enter politics. I would never suggest someone go into politics. I do respect many of the people who make that decision because I know they're doing it for the right reasons. It's not for me It is not for me. This is for me. I'm okay with this. I like this. I like being engaged. I like engaging. I'm definitely changed by the experience, and that's okay. I think people make a big, big mistake in their own mind when they take themselves too seriously and think they're too special.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And what the industry thinks of me, I've never been a favorite. I'm probably the only number one show at a network that nobody ever wrote about being number one. Now, part of that is because I don't do a lot of interviews because I believe that a lot of the outcomes are... Obvious and often net to neutral or negative and not worth the effort.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't think I have a, you know, am I going to build back my trust with the people who believe for bad and no reason that I did things that I didn't do? I got to respect the source before I respect the criticism. I'm talking to you because I respect you. I answer your questions the best I can because they're fine. I don't think they're the most helpful questions for your audience, but that's okay. If you want to ask them, you ask them. I don't think that the audience has the same interest in it that we do. And I don't think that it's about people feeling a certain way that has to be changed.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I told you that Kara Swisher is a gotcha chasen. Tell you what he would say because he said it many times. He would say Course, it depends on the context, right? Let's say just to make it easy. What do you do professionally? And balance What you do professionally with your real responsibilities, which are to your family, to your kids, to your friends. That's your real work. Your real work is taking care of your own. And hopefully if you're blessed the way I am, that's an expansive circle. But make sure you're helping. Be a part of something bigger than yourself. My father was obsessed with that. He was not... Let's say this the right way. He did not love the idea of me going into the media when I left the law and finance. He believes this is a very compromised industry. And he believed that I would always be a target.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“All right. Well, not a bad thing. So he also Have nothing to do with it because I don't really have any help that I can offer. And, you know, he does not need me answering for him. He's a big boy. He can answer his own situations.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Why would I have them on? I mean, I don't know. Honestly, I don't know. I mean, he's not in office. I mean, you know, that's, I don't know. I think if I had him on, people like you would feast on it for like three days in a row. But I don't know.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The thing got you fired. I just feel like there's such an odd disconnect between media and like regular people. You know, people love their family. This is not unique. It is not special. It is not conditional. Nobody gets along all the time in a family. That's a lie if people say they do. They're lying. And that's okay too if that's what they want to do. But of course I love my brother.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, no, no, that's not fair, or accurate. I'm saying If the behavior is as egregious as she outlined, and I have no reason to believe that it isn't, okay? Then why aren't they criminal charges? Why isn't the New York DA bringing them? It's been referred to the SDNY and the IRS. Why aren't they bringing cases then? Now, I'm not saying that that's suspicious. I'm saying the bar is high. He's going to say you're victimizing him. And we have to examine it very carefully, especially where Trump is involved because every time you swing and miss, it erodes confidence.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think there are reasonable people. I think some of them are disaffected people. I think some of the people who voted for Trump did so for bad reason. Some people did it for good reason. And some people did it for no reason. They felt they had no choice. They could not vote for Hillary Clinton. She represents everything that's wrong with politics to them. And they were not going to reward lawmakers who they think are perfidious in the main to tell them that Donald Trump was unworthy of joining their ranks. And I say instead of going after Trump all the time, which again the media is doing with this civil suit keyword, civil.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And that was the strength of Fox News where I worked. Okay, so I was not surprised by that. I knew it existed. I knew who Steve King and Tom Tan Crato and those guys were playing to, and I knew it was real. And the media was like, nah, nah, nah, nah.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I dig that because I'll tell you what, I don't know shit about being an entrepreneur, but I'm learning and I've never really been attracted to money as an end. So figuring out cash flows and monetization and stuff like that, it's hard for me because I don't have a natural appetite for it, but it's an interesting exercise. And this is the best answer I have. I like that it's a startup because I'm not coming into an audience that has been preconditioned. It's going to be organically grown there. And I dig that. And I think the audience is vast. And I must point out to people who say it doesn't exist. They said that about Trump, too, okay. And everybody knew who has traveled this country, that there were tons of disaffected, disenfranchised feeling white people.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And what I'm saying is it's okay if you're not the biggest. You don't have to be the biggest. You have to resonate with people that matter. And I'm not looking to feed the fire breathers or the fringes. There's enough of that. That doesn't mean that there's not a need for this. In fact, a desperation for this. And I think I see that in my own growth. And yes, News Nation is a startup. That's okay. You're an entrepreneur.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes. New So First of all, two things, three things. One, so's your audience, but you're very influential. Why? You should be. You're smart. You think about things.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Not yet. I got to see what they are. But I don't like the idea that they're saying they're going to be more middle ground. Look, I know that their new ownership had some reservations or concerns and there is some controversy surrounding that. I think a lot of people in the media like to see CNN go down because it was so powerful and they tried to make that happen because I believe that that's what our business is often about is tearing things down as a negativity as a proxy for insight. But I don't believe in middle ground. I believe that there's left and right and then there's reasonable. And usually the three are very distinguishable from one another. Again, it's like boring to people. It's tedious.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I have to see how it develops. They got great horses there. They have great resources. They cover news, which is something we all need to get back to. I mean, the embarrassment of how we've ignored Ukraine is Jackson, Mississippi. That's what I'm going to do on my show. What are they going to do? I don't know. We'll see. I wish them well. I hope there's success all over the place.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, you say there's a backdrop. You have to establish that I'm part of it more than because people who don't like my effectiveness go on Twitter and try to mitigate my effectiveness by saying I'm something bad.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So now, what am I? Am I righty in the game? Yes. And you'll see that now. Whoa, people think that. Who cares if people think that? It's why do they think it? If you look at Twitter right now, people say, well, now he's a writie. I am? Really? Why? Because I say things that are critical about the left, that are now being understood in a new context. I want more parties. I want rank choice voting. I want term limits in Congress. And I want electors apportioned by the states that matter. Is that right or left, or is it reasonable? I want more parties. I don't care about the left and the right. I think it's killing us.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Here's my feeling I think that Is a bullshit analysis, not yours. I'm saying the idea that Fox defended him and CNN attacked him. On my show, here's what I did, okay? I gave then Donald Trump and then President Trump a fair hearing. Okay. And if he said things that were demonstrably false, which he did frequently, I called it out because of how it erodes trust and it's a crisis. I didn't go after his kids and call names and all. I had Kelly Ann on. I had his people on. I gave him his best case. Not like Hannity would, but I'm not his buddy. Okay? That's not my business. So I don't buy this. Well, you went after Trump. Yeah, and that makes me a lefty. Think Chuck Schumer has done Biden a disservice. I think he made him look foolish early on by not being able to give him reasonable expectations of outcome.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Have anybody, but we have to have a constructive conversation. And I don't want to hear your explanation for why you're good, is because I'm bad. I think we have to move past that because most people have moved past it.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, and as time has gone past, there has been more interest, which is nice and expected because that's the way our media culture works, but What did that mean for me? Would I want to work at outlets that I now had different feelings about? Could I grow? How would it be perceived? So I wanted to try to build something. And I think times have changed. And I think that Perry and Sean respect that at News Nation and respect Reach and respect the good fight. The idea of they're an unbiased news station. Everybody says they're unbiased. You're going to have to judge show by show and over time and see what they do. What I pitched them was. I am not going to engage in the game. I'm not going to have people on and fan the flames of the current food fight.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Is very impressive. Very impressive. I'm joining them because I like what they are about. I did not see growth in going back to places I had been before.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't know that that's a pretty good. I think the way he's built Next Star, and by the way, I think his boss, Perry Sook, would like some notice also. But I think how they've built that company.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Talking to you in my dining room, okay? I was the number one show at CNN, and I would be recognized in Malawi as much as I would be in Milwaukee.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I am not happy about it. I didn't, you know what I mean? It gave me no joy. I think he's one of the best makers of television. I think he's gotten one of the best heads for news I've ever been around. He gave me tremendous opportunities. Allison was always on point and good to me. Until this, and again, very regrettable, but I'm not the guy. Petty gotcha shots and go after people I spare others' judgment and I put it on myself.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“People think a lot of things and very often it's for bad reason or self-serving reason or to hurt somebody else. I'll tell you what Have you ever heard anybody offer any proof of any of the things that I did beyond the text messages that the Attorney General had, who did not conclude what many in the media did about my involvement?”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And they'll say, Well, I was never involved as a main guy. I wasn't a main guy either. And if you were to ask people in his administration, they'd say that not only was he a side piece, but he was a side piece where we often thought he didn't know what the hell he was talking about.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But they knew I was in the mix. That's all I'm saying. And again, look, CNN was in a bad position. I was in a bad position. My brother was in a bad position. The state was in a bad position. Everybody lost. And I have to be honest, I have always answered the questions. And I don't believe it's about serving the audience. I believe it's about a standard that I really find fascinating, that journalists want people to believe that they absolutely never, ever, no one ever talks to politicians about the situations they're in and offers them advice. Really? Really, Kara? Come on. So the fact that it was my brother.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Really? Yeah. Someone who doesn't work in the office, who has no official connection, who was not described as material by the people they had interviewed in any way. You don't think that was at all targeted towards causing a little bit of pain?”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, a couple questions because this is getting increasingly interesting to me, by the way, Kara. I'm usually tired of even thinking about this because I got to move forward at some point. But I don't mean that as a mitigator. I'm happy to have the conversation.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“All right, we differ on that. I don't think that my ability to be a journalist is compromised by helping my family in a situation where I am not covering it at the same time nor using my position to influence coverage of this.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“My colleagues, not the audience. I don't know how it hurt the audience. I've never heard that it hurt the audience from the audience. And again, you know, I wouldn't be here if I didn't have respect for what you do and who you are. I don't know what the value to the conversation is beyond pursuit of an inconsistency or some type of intellectual banter because It just seems like a very obvious situation to me. It was just unique because there's nobody else in my position.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Look, anything that hurt the people that I was working with. Not my intention. Now again I never heard that. And I never, when I say felt it, you know, I'm pretty good at understanding what's happening in our business. And I'd never picked up that CNN was taking heat for what I was doing until it happened. And I think part of the reason was, you know, kind of the media dynamic and crowdsourced consequences and how they can spin into a frenzy. Just understand the interest in understanding the dynamic. I just see it as so plain and obvious. I don't even know really what the value of the conversation is, to be honest. What was the line? Well, if you say that what I did hurt you, then I'm sorry because I never intended that. I had no idea that it was going to hurt you, you being the, you know.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“This is a unique and difficult situation, and that's okay. I know where the line is. I can respect it and still be there for my family, which I must. I have to do that. I love my brother. I love my family. I love my job. And I love and respect my colleagues here at CNN. And again, to them, I am truly sorry”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I apologized. I'll tell you why, Kara. Because I was told by my bosses that people at work felt that I had compromised their ability to do their job. I did not know that. I did not feel that But being told that. I absolutely never intended that. And if I had known going into it, that me disclosing to my audience that I'm not going to cover my brother and he's my brother, so I want to help him to the extent that I can. Would have compromised CNN. I may have made different decisions, but I had no reason to believe that. And that's why I apologize, because the idea of compromising anybody else wasn't my intention. And I'm very sorry if that were the case.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I told the audience, Kara, that I'm helping my brother. Yeah, yeah, I was advising him. I was helping him in ways that I thought were reasonable.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, I didn't bring him on to talk about it. I brought him on because I was asked to have him on. And it was going on. And I felt, you know, I was going to have to ask about it. But again, that was a little bit of an impossible situation, which an ethicist could very easily say, yeah, that's why you shouldn't have had him on. And my response to that criticism is that was never my plan to have him on. And when I did have him on, it was not about news and covering a governor of a state. That's all I'm saying. And I don't think that it's an easy case to make against me that I don't know how to test people in power. So I know how to ask the questions. I'm no Kara Swisher, but I know how to ask the questions. But nobody was expecting me to ask them of my brother. That's my point.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, look, I mean, what I would turn the question to is find me somebody who asked him a question during that phase. That was more pointed than what I said. Because what I said was a summary of the accusations.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Look. The idea of Did I give my brother a pass? Is an obvious rhetorical question. That was the real question. Other journalists were asking him questions at the time that were not as pointed as the one I asked him, and I couldn't even fairly cover it, which should tell you something about the nature of media treatment of people in power in general, maybe. I don't think that the nursing home situation has been complete and fair in its appraisal. But that's on my brother, and that's for him to decide whether or not he wants to take it on or his past administration or the current one if it ever comes up again. That's not my problem per se. But what would I ask him? What difference does it make? Because whatever I would ask him would be found lacking. I could have held up a piece of paper and put Mike Wallace's glasses on and said, doesn't this show that you should be damned for this forever? And people would say, I went soft. So that was never what the relationship was supposed to be. It was never presented as that.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Nursing homes, people died there. They didn't have to. It was mismanaged, and the operators have been given immunity. What do you have to say about that Several statements that are not correct, but that's okay, it's your show.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He was at the scene of a train accident. And I had him on just to tell us what had happened in the train accident because nobody was there yet and it was like six something in the morning. I was doing the morning show, New Day. And I got shit on for it. And I was like, you know what? I get it. I tried it. I understand why they're saying this. Leave it alone. It's not a nuanced discussion. And maybe it shouldn't be because it's a nice bright line distinction. And that's fine. So, of course, there were reservations to be had, but it was also a unique situation. And, you know, just in terms of like, hey, you know, the nursing home stuff came up and When the nursing home stuff came up in earnest, I didn't have them on anymore.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“My brother hadn't been on my show for a reason, which was it's an obvious conflict of interest, and I'm not going to cover his administration. And I even said in the interviews, a time will come when I cannot have him on anymore because there will be questions of accountability that I cannot be believable on, because obviously I'm biased. I said it to the audience and they always got it. I had had my brother on once earlier.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And how you were there for each other. And that's what they took from it. And I'll tell you what, Kara, you know, I'm not a big fan of myself, but I've won a lot of awards in journalism. Just about all the ones that they offer on a major level for television journalism. I've never been thanked for any work that I've done, the way I was for those interviews. Did I think that they should be considered a conflict of interest? Abinitio inherently all day long. But there was complete transparency. You knew it was my brother. Well, you can say it wasn't.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Very important traits. This idea that Chris Cuomo had no boss. Chris Cuomo did as he liked when he liked how he liked. These are people who don't know our business. Okay. When Jeff decided to have Andrew on, I believe it was the right call because the country was desperate and starved for comfort. And I have never met a regular person, meaning someone who does not get paid to be my competition who has said, you know, I got to tell you, I really thought that those were news interviews and that you were not doing your job the way you do it with everybody else. I don't want to disrespect you, but I think you may have been partial to Andrew Cuomo in those interviews. I've never had a regular person say that. What they've said is I really... Appreciated the connection between brothers who were in different aspects of the same dynamic.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, if I knew. That it was going to be harbored as a grudge the way it was. I may have had much more profound concerns early on when I was asked to have my brother on. Sure.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, look, the hindsight's 2020 for me is that if I had known that a grudge would be harbored, because if we're giving a fair reckoning, not many people spoke up loudly in the media about disapproving of my brother being on during that time. They did so later. And I think in that is something that needs to be owned as well. The reason that they didn't come out in the moment was because it was very popular and powerful. And I think if you want to speak truth to power and you want to be about somebody who's about something bigger and ethical and capital J journalism, then say it when it's not popular to say it and not easy to say it. Let's put that to the side.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I've always been highly self critical and probably self-loathing. And I think that there's an aspect of that that I've been trying to address, having been recently given a block of time with not much to do. And we got to keep working on ourselves. And sometimes Your insecurities keep you from being confident because that exposes you to disappointment and it's easier to be negative. I think we see that all over our culture. Negativity is a proxy for insight. Free agent doesn't really refer to me. It refers to you. It refers to the people who are listening, who I'm trying to reach. So a free agent is really about everybody else and it's people who don't want to be on a team or a tribe, who have open minds and open hearts and are willing to listen, even if they disagree.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Free agent merch, it's there. Buy it. I want to get a lot of money together. I'm thinking like 100 grand. And then we'll start crowdsourcing who we give it out to. So we can do some good together. I think it's really cool. Also, I like the idea of this instead of independent, okay? I don't like the word independent because I think in America we need to be interdependent.”
2022-09-26 · On with Kara Swisher · Chris Cuomo’s Comeback · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT