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Clarence Jones

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  1. It was an interesting house because it had, it still has, I just haven't seen it recently, but it had a retractable ceiling. So you press a button and then the ceiling of the house falls back in good weather. You look at the CS and Gabriel Mountains. It's beautiful, and it was into that setting that Martin King came. It was a very nice day. And he walks in and he says, Attorney Jones, you have a very nice house here. I said, yes, I know, Dr. King. And I had an impeller. I had an impeller Chevrolet. Convertible that my wife had given me on graduation as a graduation president from law school. So I got palable. There was a lemon tree and so forth. Anyway, so Dr. King walks into this house, walks into the setting, and he gets right to the point.

    2025-02-01 · a16z Podcast · Ben Horowitz Sharing History with Dr. Clarence Jones, MLK's Speechwriter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. To Los Angeles right now. And I told him, taking advantage of the change of time, I told him that the very first thing he should do when he gets to California is to come up and see you. And I said, No, you did. He said, yes, I did. And so lo and behold, On Friday evening, I'm living at 2751, Highview Avenue and outdina, California, parenthetically the owner of the house called me about a week ago because she knew I would be interested to say that the house that I'm telling you with Dr. King King was one of the two houses in Alphabeta that had not been burned down. So she wanted me to know that she thought. Anyway, so into my house on Friday evening, walks Martin Luther King Jr. Now at 2751 Highview Avenue.

    2025-02-01 · a16z Podcast · Ben Horowitz Sharing History with Dr. Clarence Jones, MLK's Speechwriter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. And so Josh Elainey called me and he said, Clarence, this is preacher. I'm representing this preacher. It's been indicted been in Birmingham, and I need somebody to handle all the legal research. Now, when he first called me, I thought he was talking about my going to the library. I was living in Althadina, California, 2751 Altadina Avenue, which I'll talk about later. And he said, no, no, no, Clarence, you have to go down. I said, no, judge, I can't do that. I can't do that. He was very, very disappointed and so forth. And then he called me up one early Friday morning. Oh, we had had a conversation, a long conversation on Thursday night. He called me up early Friday morning. He said, Clarence, I didn't know it. But, you know, the conversation I was talking to you about Martin King. He's in the air. He's on his way there.

    2025-02-01 · a16z Podcast · Ben Horowitz Sharing History with Dr. Clarence Jones, MLK's Speechwriter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. Oh, yeah, King was indicted by the state of Alabama. 1960 for tax evasion And he had four superb lawyers. His chief counsel was Judge Hubert Delaney, fire lawyer from New York. He had two tax lawyers from Chicago. And he had a young lawyer. He's not young anymore, Fred Gray from Montgomery, Alabama. But his chief defense counsel, Judge Hubert Delaney, he had known me and had an over-exaggerated opinion of my abilities.

    2025-02-01 · a16z Podcast · Ben Horowitz Sharing History with Dr. Clarence Jones, MLK's Speechwriter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. So thank you all for coming. This is an honor, and I'm excited to have this conversation. You know, what we see when we look at history through the history books and films is just so different than how it's described by somebody who actually lived it. So this is really good. And why don't we start at the beginning? Because it's a very interesting story. So when you met Dr. King, you were an entertainment lawyer and he had caught a case on tax evasion. Tell us about that because you were a completely different person.

    2025-02-01 · a16z Podcast · Ben Horowitz Sharing History with Dr. Clarence Jones, MLK's Speechwriter · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source