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Conor Dougherty
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“Most people living in them. So paint San Francisco's a picture. The city of San Francisco only does, but I mean, obviously the outlying area”
2020-02-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Conor Dougherty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Megacities, the bigger cities, because I think one of the demographic trends is obviously bigger cities and how we cope with those people living in them. So paint San Francisco's picture, this is a city that, now let's be clear, it has limited space. Now, you talked about enormous amounts of space. It has just what it has. The city of San Francisco.”
2020-02-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Conor Dougherty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think it's particularly unusual in that it's the worst version of something every city has. But one of the things I've struggled with with the book is I almost struggled, but a lot of people want to see San Francisco as this truly exceptional, anomalous place. And it's not. It's just a version of some, it's an early and amplified version of something that is happening everywhere. I mean, I did travel pretty extensively for the book. I went to Minneapolis, Boston, Vancouver, British Columbia. A couple other places that had the same basic problem. And aside from the magnitude and the political culture, It was the same. So I think San Francisco is, I really do believe it is an early look at the nation's future. And when I say San Francisco, I obviously mean the whole Greater Bay Area.”
2020-02-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Conor Dougherty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He gives you I did find that indicative. Yeah, they've always been thinking about that, what headquarters are. And in fact, in the headquarters, they used to have nine different office types. They had a quanset hut at one point in the early days. People don't call that, but they really have been, that said, they've been sort of linked to the problem in San Francisco, excuse me. So talk about why you decided to do this. Obviously, housing is an enormous issue around this country. We had the housing crisis that we had, the controversy. But in San Francisco, it's a particularly unusual situation, or maybe it isn't. Why don't you describe it?”
2020-02-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Conor Dougherty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I will say for what it's worth, when I covered Google, I tried to interview Larry, of course, never was successful, but I did corner him at events a couple times. And he always blew me off, and I asked him about different tech topics, and he always gave me that I'm bored look. He gives you. But the one time I did ask him a housing question, he just lit up and got very into it. It was the one time I asked him a question and he looked at me and really engaged and gave a long answer. So I did find that indicative.”
2020-02-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Conor Dougherty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, because Google is To housing. And actually, oddly enough, you may or may not have noticed how interested they are in housing and office and. Like that. It's a big interest, I think, more Sergei than Larry, which is interesting. I've had many, many discussions with him about commuting and bicycles. I remember when he first dropped all the bicycles in a livable city. So it's interesting, though many people blame them for it. We'll get into that in a second.”
2020-02-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Conor Dougherty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Okay, I'm here now. If you want to be a reporter in this place, you got to get in to the company town. So I thought that would be a great way to do it. And it did lead me to housing and all this other stuff. Right, because school.”
2020-02-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Conor Dougherty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You have no tolerance for evasion. I just wanted to get a job at the times and they offered me that job. So, I mean, I was excited. When I took the job, I thought to myself, this will be something totally new. Let's dive into it. And I was out in the Bay Area. I'd been in New York for 10 years. And I thought to myself, and this is a great segue into housing,”
2020-02-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Conor Dougherty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I was originally hired, so I covered housing for 10 years for the Wall Street Journal Economics and Housing, and I was hired. To cover Google At the times, and I did that for maybe all of 18 months. I probably shouldn't say this, but I was not the best corporate reporter. I was really proud of some of my stories, but I was never so great at getting super deep inside the company. And I liked covering.”
2020-02-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Conor Dougherty · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT