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“Now But I don't vote Thank you This was fun. It was fun. We're going to hang out. Come back to New York City. I'm coming to Gracie's mansion, my friend. I'm coming to Gracie. If I win, you're coming and you're going to invite some fun people to join there.”
2020-02-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Corey Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The legal limit is 2000. I'm taking one eighth of the legal limit. I'm the first person to ever run for mayor to do this and I'm not taking away from real estate developers. I'm not taking money from corporate PACs and I'm not taking money from lobbyists.”
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“Yeah, they are. They like the money, and that's the way it's going to be. I always joke to them. You're so poor, all you have is money, is my favorite mine. You may use it in your Mayoro campaign as you take money from bankers and others. No, I'm kidding. No, I'm kidding. Anyway, Corey, good luck on your campaign. I think it's great. I'm not taking”
2020-02-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Corey Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He does a lot of things. I don't know what to say. He thinks he can change people's ideas. He does. He's one of those people. Silicon Valley is full of those people. And I'm always like, listen, Jesus, you're not going to change anybody.”
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“There was this great idea a couple of years ago. I know we have to finish. This great idea a couple years ago of actually running a tube all along the high line, underneath the high line, and the tube would go into all the buildings attached to the high line, and people would put their garbage in the tube. And this is what they have in Roosevelt Island. Everyone puts their garbage in a tube in their building, and it sucks it. Into a main compartment on Roosevelt Island. Are there interesting things that we just”
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“They're still doing well for Square. Yeah, yeah, but they didn't come. They kind of changed their business model. Yeah, Facebook. Yeah. So I think that's what we need to do. And then on the other stuff, there is a huge amount of what I've been told. I haven't spent enough time studying it. There's been a huge amount of artificial intelligence technology that's been exploding in New York City, actually from local New York companies. And I don't know enough about it, but I think that in a city this complicated can you figure out a better way to get rid of garbage? Can you actually”
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“You've tried Was going to do it. Four square, we can't do it. They're still doing well, Foursquare. Yeah, yeah, but they didn't come. They kind of changed their business model. It didn't become Facebook. Yeah, they became Facebook.”
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“to get people in that workforce and do that type of development. There are 275,000 students who are CUNY students, City of New York students, which is one of the crown jewels of New York City. And I think one of the things we need to do is create the level of job training and education to actually hopefully have some of those young entrepreneurs start those small businesses here that you talked about to have the great next tech company come from a young New Yorker who grew up in New York City who got a good education here and who were able to get it done. I think focusing on that is really, really key. The other stuff about...”
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“I think we really need to focus on the young people who... Who live here and are growing up here? And so we've seen how successful STEM programming is and STEAM programming is. There's a great organization called Girls Who Code, which teaches young women how to code and actually get a job.”
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“All right, last question running for mayor. I'm going to ask you a tech related question, but what's the one thing you'd like to see, even a crazy thing, in New York from a tech point of view, if you had to, like, is it the better streets for eventually autonomous parking? Is it education that's done remotely to improve schools? Is there some pie in the sky idea you have as someone who's running for mayor of New York?”
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“Well, I think the city of New York should have a lot more power on a lot of things, on taxes, on schools, on transportation. Tunnel On tunnels, we need the gateway tunnel for Amtrak. But do I think Albany's going to seed that to us anytime soon? No.”
2020-02-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Corey Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Hotel union, I think they've been unwilling to do so because tenants all across New York City who don't even think about hotels or hotel jobs again say my quality of life and my building and the lack of affordable housing, I don't want my building being turned into a new hotel.”
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“Making the same amount of money that people are making in hotels, the hotel industry has created a real middle class workforce in New York City when so many other sectors across the city. I don't know. I mean, ultimately, the city of New York, just like on a whole host of issues, whether it's our taxes, whether it is the rent laws, whether it's the MTA, we ultimately don't have authority on it. What do I mean by that? Albany's the one that created the regulatory framework for Airbnb by amending what's called the Multiple Dwellings Law, which says, what can happen in buildings with apartments? And that was done before Airbnb really exploded and took off. It happened about 10 years ago. And that happened because there were actually illegal hotels that were going up all across New York City pre-Airbnb. And people said there's a problem. There's a safety issue here that we need to figure out. And those regulations were put in place. Airbnb has gone back to the state legislature in Albany every single year lobbying the state legislature to change the multiple dwelling law. And the state legislature has been unwilling to do so. Again, I don't believe they've been unwilling to do so because of the...”
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“So how do you balance that I don't think that's true. I would say that the union here, which represents the hotel workers, the Hotel Trades Council, they are a politically potent and powerful union. But I think there are only 30,000 members, 35,000 members. They're not, all the other unions are much bigger than them. The reason why I think elected officials feel good about them is not because it can't be in contributions. That has nothing to do with it. It more has to do with they're able to secure a good contract for these lower income predominantly women of color in New York City or a housekeeper or a maid or someone who works at a banquet hall is actually able to make it into the middle class in New York City and provide for themselves and for their families. Airbnb does not allow that for these type of folks who wouldn't qualify for those type of jobs. Even if Airbnb did have unionized cleaners, they're not going to be.”
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“Should be giving taxes, but the real big issue here is name a single person that wants all the apartments in their building being Airbnb.”
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“People are bringing their gigantic suitcases up and down the stairs and making noise and housing is so expensive here that you are paying $3,000 a month for a studio and you're thinking, why the heck is the apartment next to me? People are coming in and out, making noise. I don't know who these people are in my building that there's actually a backlash in some ways where a lot of New Yorkers like, I don't want Airbnb in my building. I like using Airbnb when I go to...”
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“So in New York, I think there's a real split amongst the public You have New Yorkers, which is a very small slice, who actually Airbnb their apartments out and make a good amount of income from that, which is good for them. You have New Yorkers who don't rent their apartments out in New York, but when they travel around the world, they use Airbnb. When they're in other city, so they have positive feelings towards Airbnb. And then you have New Yorkers who may use Airbnb across the world, but here in New York City, when their neighbor is Airbnb, their apartment and strangers are coming in and out of the building, and there's a lockbox locked to the hundreds of them, locked in front.”
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“He gets irritated, agitated. I never see him. Only about New York. How do you look at these things? Because housing is also changing, how we live, where we live, rents, everything, how we build houses, how we construct them. Right now, housing is artisanal the way we do housing. It should be done in a much more efficient technological way. They are doing that again across the world. How do you look at Airbnb, which sort of revolutionized the idea of housing”
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“Less on Facebook, more on Twitter, at least for me. And so I have to like remember all the time, like not all people are on there engaging in that or even watching what's going on. So you need to focus on the nuts and bolts of what matter to people, sort of those bread and butter issues, mass transit, education, housing, homelessness, the affordability crisis, the environment, all of those things that are economic development, jobs that are happening in New York, and not worry exactly what's happening on Twitter, but tell your message through the broader media. Some of it's on social media, but some of it's through traditional media as well.”
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“In general, because when I go around, when I talk to New Yorkers, like a lot of them aren't paying attention to what's happening on Twitter.”
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“Know what's interesting is I think that those of us in elected office and maybe even sometimes in the media overstate the number of people outside of Trump, who is the president of the United States, who on the local level, even on the state level, we think that everyone reads Twitter. It's a very small subset of people. And the vast majority of New Yorkers are getting their news from the nightly news they watch on the three major broadcast stations or New York One here in New York City and the Daily Papers, the New York Times and the tabloids. And that's how the vast majority, a lot of people are consuming the news just by the New York Times app by reading it on their phones.”
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“So how then in this environment where it does get the partisanship and it shows itself up on Twitter of all places because they're all there, the media, the politicians of both sides and Trump. So it creates the all over, and it plays itself out in every city in the country like this. Like every city in the country has this dynamics and it has it here. How do you get to policy then? How do you get people back to thinking about that without being in this twitchy Immediate culture.”
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“Which is me. And I think I've been able to connect with New Yorkers in a way that people have really appreciated, but I'm less good and I haven't engaged in that sort of hand-to-hand combat aspect. It's been more, I talk about the issues of the day. But I'm not engaging in sort of the warfare on social media. It's more just trying to like show the personal side of me outside of government and politics and that I'm a real human being just like everyone else.”
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“Well, I think, and I'm probably not the best person to speak about this, but I think that I'm not objective I have really tried to use social media just to show my personality and to kind of eye lip sync on Instagram and I tweet me dancing down the streets and I Facebook Live, which is you.”
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“They keep saying, We have laws, and he just rolls right over them just the way he rolled over Paul Ryan, the way he rolls over pretty much everybody. And so it's an interesting trend, if you're a politician, is what happens, do you have to be that person, especially if you're in the city of New York? Do you have to be like that as a politician?”
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“Yeah, he's excellent at it. I have to say, of all the only, that's the only compliment I can pay him. He's really good at it, and he really gets it. I wrote a column actually about how he was good at it in a visceral sense, except he's a broadcast outer, which is the old way, you broadcast out towards people, and then you don't react. And someone like Ocasio is a, she speaks the language and she goes back and forth. She works it in a very different way. They're both quite good at it in their own, you know. The question is how much good can come of it. Now, Trump has used it rather effectively. We had a question today on our pivot, which was, who's more powerful? His tweets or Congress, which can't really stop him from doing the things he's doing. That's interesting.”
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“When you use Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram, you're basically reaching three different audiences, and you talk to them in three different ways.”
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“No, not you. But you know what's interesting, and maybe I don't know if you agree with this or not, but what I have found as an elected official is that.”
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“You know, I am. Afraid that I'm going to rashly tweet something stupid or reply to someone on Twitter who sort of trolling me and kind of get into a fight.”
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“Municipalities actually have very little say. We're affected by these companies in such a huge way, especially those of us in office who have to navigate this terrain politically for ourselves and personally. And we really have no say. It's all in action at the federal level.”
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“Which is problematic. Right. And I think that's one of the attractive things about what I've even endorsed anyone for president, but I think it's one of the attractive things”
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“Lots of things, lots of things. But if you get different letters, you probably have gotten them and you haven't looked at them from all your various apps and things like that. And I think one of the questions is as states start to roll these things out and some cities actually too, because San Francisco is doing stuff around facial surveillance. Yes, we're”
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“So, how do you look at when you have these social media, the impact of these social media companies? Because one of the things if you're Maverick in New York, this is not something you'll deal with necessarily, but there's a lot of discussion about regulation and there's a lot of state privacy laws happening in California that just came online. The first very big privacy law in California, which is not being implemented until July, I think, but it's confusing as heck. You're getting letters from everybody. What does it do?”
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“He's a very sick, sick, I think, sociopath who is destroying the world and the United States of America and is a racist. And the list goes on.”
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“You got Trump, so no, it's not. That's true. You do it by Trump. But when you're in politics today, it's changed irreparably because of Trump and what he's doing on Twitter and not just the policies, but the way things...”
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“But I became so Anxious that next day when everything blew up, I thought, oh my god, I made such a mistake, I shouldn't have done this”
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“When I started dating my boyfriend this summer Five weeks into our relationship, we were at his apartment one night and I was laying on the couch and it was really, really hot outside and he was shirtless just wearing a pair of shorts standing by the window looking at something and I took a photo of him. He didn't know I was taking his photo. I eventually showed him the photo before I posted on Instagram. And I posted on Instagram and like the internet like blew up by saying like what the hell is the speaker doing posting a photo of his shirtless boyfriend on Instagram? It's inappropriate. He looked fantastic”
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“Some of it is, I'm 37 years old, so I'm millennial. The other part of it is that I think voters and people in general crave authenticity and not contrived authenticity, not stupid stuff, but they want someone that they relate to, that they think is real. And so I think the balancing act of showing who you really are while also not being TMI, I'll give you an example.”
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“And if you're someone like me who has a little bit of an anxious side. It's even more challenging. I've been very open about my struggles in life. And, you know, as we talked about, I'm openly gay. I'm the only openly HIV positive elected official in the state of New York. I talk very regularly about my sobriety and recovery. I've been sober for this July. I'll be 11 years sober from drugs and alcohol. And one of the big lessons I learned in early sobriety is that I've tried to carry with me is you are only as sick as your secrets. And I don't want to be sick, so I don't have any secrets. So I live my life in a very transparent way. But that's also some of it might be being a millennial.”
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“They were all in Town Square. Trying to get by them. I think that's what we need to do as New Yorkers, and I'm going to talk about this term, my campaign for mayor, is you need to be, you need to do, I think, two things. It's nice to say you want to remain a globally competitive city, and New York has been one of the leaders internationally on doing good things. But for New Yorkers, they don't really give a shit about that, about being globally competitive city. New Yorkers are like, get the trash picked up and get the subways moving. Get the schools working. You need to invest in things that improve New Yorkers' quality of life. And if you do that, then people come. Businesses come. Startups come. Young families come. That's what you will have happen. But if you remain a city that locks out those type of people and is hostile to entrepreneurship and to the creative spirit, then it becomes a lot harder.”
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“Well, I think government, we are not usually very, very rarely the folks that are the most creative when it comes to figuring out what the next good idea is. I think the balance is creating an economy and a regulatory framework that allows that entrepreneurship allows.”
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“How you create big tech companies here like you do, like all of them happen to be on the west coast of this country, or a lot of them do. You look there's in Seattle, there's Amazon and Microsoft and several others. Netflix are in Silicon Valley. There's one or two down in Los Angeles, one or two in Austin, and some here, but a lot of the ones have flamed out here. And a lot of them are media-oriented, like Vox, where we are right now. There's BuzzFeed and others, but they're, you know, content is not the best place to be right now from a digital point of view. So how do you create the next Facebook somewhere? It could be anywhere. It's right now in China with TikTok and others. But how do you, is that the role of government to do that?”
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“And in New York, I think specifically, it's a little different. It could be good to put an anchor down on Roosevelt Island like we did, but you saw Google come into Chelsea and take their building almost 10 years ago and now they're expanding. Facebook is taking the space on top of the new Moynihan train station, which is opening up next year. Twitter has taken space in a different part of the city. You had JetBlue, which opened up, they're not tech, but they opened. So they opened up their big site out in Queens and Long Island City almost a decade ago. And I think some of it is organic. It doesn't need to be where they actually go. It needs to be, is the city an attractive city where their employees are going to want to live and raise a family and send their kids to school and have transportation that works for them and have affordable small businesses? Will those things exist?”
2020-02-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Corey Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's just not like, you know what I mean? I don't think you can create a tech excitement place. I think it just, I think these things happen. Just like right now everybody's moving into San Francisco despite all the problems because young people want to live there and these companies are there and we'll see how it goes because they aren't creating a great place to live and they're not serving all their citizens, including the homeless. Everybody's at a disadvantage in that city. It's not good for the kids. It's not good for the taxpayers. It's not good for the homeless people who are treated like animals. They shouldn't be living like that. And by the way, city streets shouldn't be like that. They shouldn't be able to live on those streets. And so it's a really interesting problem. And it does hinder development. It does absolutely. So I don't, you know, I don't know, but I don't think you can just decide this is, I've seen cities do it over and over again create a tech. This is our tech hub. And it just doesn't gel like that.”
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“I was just going to say that before you said it. The Cornell Technique on site Yeah, I think it's actually good Tell me why you say”
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“And what I mean by that Goldman Sachs is going to say, And academics. I think Stanford's such a critical part of what's happened in Stanford and Berkeley, really, but Stanford, for the most part. Do you have that? I mean, talk about Roosevelt Island. I mean, I was just going to say that before you said it. The Cornell Technique on site. Yeah, which has been okay.”
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“Is you need to be a city that's smart about the things we've talked about. Are you a city that's smart about transportation? Are you a city that is a creative capital for artists and actors and coders and gamers and academics?”
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“The world's just man. And it's not even just that. It's also, I think the bigger issue here is it's precedential. And what I mean by that is you have Google, which has created 10,000 jobs in Chelsea in a little more than a decade, and they've received zero subsidy. You have Facebook that's coming and creating thousands of jobs. Twitter has come. You have the smaller startups that have come. None of those people are getting large subsidies. So if you gave Amazon this tailored package, custom fit tailored package in five years, why wouldn't JPMorgan Chase say we want to create a thousand jobs? What are you going to give us? Goldman Sachs going to say, what are you going to give us? Fake's going to say, what are you going to give us? And it'll be a race to the bottom where all of these large companies that are actually doing pretty well would say, where's our package? Tailors something for us. That is not what we need to do as a city. What we need to do as a city is actually, I think the way to become that tech incubator that you mentioned on the East Coast.”
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“And regulation in terms of business creation. But in that 10-year period, we've seen that number of jobs with very, very little subsidy. So the conversation around Amazon was disappointing in so many ways because I guess I feel like we sort of lost the PR battle on it. I was very critical of the deal. I came under a lot of fire for it. And my perspective was Amazon should come to New York City, come. But just like the European Union doesn't allow these competitions of countries against each other.”
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“Well, one of the figures I mentioned at the beginning of this conversation was that since the recession in 2009, we've seen organically 780,000 private sector jobs created and less than 1% of those jobs were created with any level of abatement or subsidy. And I think one of the ways to attract businesses and to people to New York City or to cities in general is number one, you have to keep crime low so people feel safe moving to the city. Number two, you need to invest in schools so that families feel like they can move to the city and raise their kids there. And number three, you need to invest in good public spaces, parks and streets, as we've talked about and public transportation. If you do those three things, people will come to your city. And so in a 10 year period.”
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