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Corey Lewandowski

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  1. Not I understand, but look, it's very difficult, Dave, if you have a person who has said some really tough things about you. And written some really nasty letters about you to then come and say, hey, guess what? I'll serve if you want me to. Well, you didn't have to publicly disagree with me all the way through the campaign to only now take a job because it's good for your professional career if maybe they would have been more helpful. Maybe that was the case. This is the problem. There were so few people in the campaign that needed jobs because there was only a couple hundred people and the whole campaign was done. It wasn't like the Clinton apparatus that had 30 years of building around them to go and fill these positions. And I think what they're trying to do right now is to make sure that they're getting good qualified candidates that are going to go through the Senate confirmation process.

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  2. And he said, Well, you know, I didn't say anything that nobody else didn't say. Well, the difference is, you know, if you're so fundamentally opposed to the president's agenda, why would you want to join the administration? And part of the reason is, and this is not directed at any one person is, people get used to the power. They want to get back into the government.

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  3. I think what happened was the president appoints approximately 4,152 appointments. Of those, not all of them require Senate confirmation. Some schedule C's, et cetera. But looking at the government in the totality, there were so few people on the campaign that they didn't have enough people to fill all of these roles is what it came down to. So now you have to go out and look outside the box of the people that you knew internally. And a number of those people candidly were not supportive of the Trump presidency. And we saw that recently where someone wanted a position and the president was made aware of some conversations.

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  4. I think some of it is the concern that the U.S. Senate hasn't moved fast enough. And I think if you look at the Jeff Sessions nomination, Jeff Session's first hearing for Attorney General was on January 4th, even before the president was sworn in. He didn't get sworn in and voted on by the full Senate until last week, seven weeks.

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  5. He has to tell the story of he's going to provide middle class tax cuts. It's something that he's campaigned on. He has to tell the story that we're going to put America first. He has to tell the story that we're going to control our borders and that we're going to have fair trade deals. That's the story that he has to tell and everything else is a diversion. You know, he has to tell the story that he has campaigned on repealing Obamacare. Now you have to find a way to get those things done. As you know, the hard part's actually governing. They always say the campaign's a tough part. The campaign's easy party part. Then they have to go and implement. And you've got a massive bureaucracy staffed with career bureaucrats who have a very different agenda and they stick around from administration to administration.

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  6. Understands what that means. As I look at the totality of the senior staff, and if that's Kelly Ann Conway, Steve Bannon, Ryan's Priebus, Jared Kushner, the senior staff inside the building, none of them have ever worked inside the government. And I think it's both a plus and a minus. You don't know what you don't know. But what I think you see is people like General Madison, General Kelly, who understand the government coming in and taking a larger role now, understanding how to get things done and making sure they're rolled out properly. And what I think you'll see moving forward, hopefully, is a measured approach, not to scale back on fulfilling the promises of the campaign, but making sure that you have vetted it properly with not only the right legal entities, but also giving the heads up to those people in Congress so that you don't have backlash from your own party that they were unaware of issues that are coming forward because you want to build consensus to move your agenda forward.

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  7. I think the president in the first twenty days has begun to fulfill the campaign promises, which he outlined. We saw that through a series of executive orders. I do think, and I agree with Governor Christie on this, the staff has probably not prepared him as well as they could have or should have as it related to some of those executive orders and the implementation and what that would mean, particularly as it related to immigration issues. I think you have a president who wants to move very quickly, who has a grand vision of what he wants to accomplish and is leaving the details to the staff to implement, and have to hope that the staff

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  8. Again, look, I think it's part of the open question of who knew when. And that's a very real question. And did the Department of Justice say that Mike Flynn was open to blackmail based on these conversations? I don't know. I'm not privy to the classified information. That seems to be what is being reported. I just don't know the answer.

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  9. Who turned around and notified a number of other people within the building who then had some type of, I suppose, conversation with the president to notify him of what the Department of Justice has indicated. I don't know when the vice president was brought into the loop. I don't know if he was brought into the loop. Those are internal discussions. I'm not privy to. But what I do think is what we saw when the Washington Post reported it was as soon as the vice president was made aware of it, if that's how he was made aware of it, he acted very swiftly and was steadfast in his resolve that he no longer had confidence in the National Security Advisor. And I think was probably a person who helped encourage Mike Flint to the post.

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  10. I don't know the inner workings of how the conversation took place, but from what I understand and what's been publicly reported, Sally Yates from the Department of Justice notified the White House counsel.

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  11. That's the larger issue. Look, the larger issue is that if you cannot be honest with the present or in this case also the vice president of the United States and you did not properly inform him of your conversations and then the vice president of the United States goes on television and reiterates a narrative which you told him which is factually inaccurate look I think it's very difficult to serve in any capacity in the administration. You have an obligation to make sure that you're honest and trustworthy with the president and the vice president because the way I understand it, those are the only two people in the government who are guaranteed a job for the next four years.

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  12. The relationship with General Flynn was one where he was a steadfast supporter of the president. I can see no scenario where the president or president-elect at the time would have directed Mike Flynn to make a phone call to a Russian official to discuss sanctions. Number one, it's just way out of the realm of possibility. Number two, I think Mike would understand as the former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency that those calls are probably being monitored through U.S. Intercept. And again, I don't know what if what Mike did was legal or illegal. The question is, how's that information get there?

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  13. Of course, you should know that, but the question is. Was a government agency listening to domestic US citizen telephone calls on domestic soil? If so, that's a clear violation of the law.

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  14. There's two very important parts of the Mike Flynn component. Look, in order to ascertain Domestic wiretap information, you need a court order to do that. And what I have heard so far that has been publicly reported is that he has placed six calls or some number of calls to the ambassador to Russia to talk potentially about something whether it's legal or not is not for me to say. What we know is that somebody has a copy of that transcript. Now, how you obtain that transcript by spying on someone domestically, I'm not sure because I don't think that's clearly they were.

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  15. Look, there's no question Vladimir Putin has done at least been elected to do those things. And what, you know, for his country, his approval ratings in his country are very good. There's no question about it. Now, does that mean we're going to agree on everything? Of course not. Does that mean we should close the door and never have a relationship? Absolutely not. They are one of the world's largest powers. And if we can have a working relationship, it would be better than an adversarial one.

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  16. No, and let me be clear any staffer who contacted a potentially contacted a Russian agent or a Russian official has done so on their own accord and not of the direction of the campaign, the president, or anybody else in the administration. But let me say this. If the United States can develop a relationship with Russia where they can agree to do one thing, just one thing only, which is to go to Syria and destroy ISIS, that is what I believe the president's agenda is, which is to go to the area where ISIS is promulgating and stop them in their tracks. If that means we can work with Russia to make that happen, then that's a good thing. Does that mean we're going to work with Russia on everything? Of course not. But if we can find one way for the betterment of our own country and our own citizens so that ISIS isn't coming here to kill us, and we can do that with the help of a major force in the world, then that's a place where I think we can made a mistake.

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  17. But I don't think, look, I spend a lot of time with Donald Trump, never, ever, ever, ever in my entire tenure did he ever intimate anything about wanting any help from the Russians? Never. Never brought up, never discussed. If Paul Manafort did something that he was trying to encourage the Russians to be involved in this election cycle, then he did so on his own accord without any direction from then candidate Trump, the campaign, or President Trump. I am certain of that.

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  18. Look, I had no idea if the stories that have been very public about dossiers and Paul's name appearing and other foreign countries about receiving money. I don't know if they're true, if they're not true. I have no idea. I have no reason to believe them whatsoever. But let me say this. If anybody crossed the line and gave information to a foreign agent or a foreign government or foreign intelligence official, whether that's Paul Manaford or it's Rick Gates or anybody else, I hope they're held accountable.

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  19. But I'm not counting it was that one extra day. You know what it was? I don't know. Paul took most of his meetings and phone calls in his apartment, so he didn't work out of the campaign office very much. He didn't travel with us ever. So I didn't have much of a relationship with him because he was back in the building doing his work. Are you surprised?

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  20. Well, Paul was there. Paul lasted eight weeks and one day from the time I was asked to leave to the time he was asked to leave. But who's counting?

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  21. Not at that particular moment, not at that particular moment. And so they said, you know, thank you. And I said, look, what am I being fired for? We won. We won 38 times, 38 primaries and caucuses. We received more votes than any candidate in the history of the Republican Party. You are the Republican nominee for President of the United States. Look, if I was, with all due respect running Jim Gilmore's campaign, I should have been fired or pick any of the other 16 candidates that we vanquished. But we won. And, you know, there wasn't really a good answer. And that's okay. Look, that's a little hurtful, as you can imagine, because you put so much of your life and energy and time into something. But look, I want him to be successful. I've always wanted him to be successful. Would I have preferred to have been able to be a part of it till the end? Sure.

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  22. I mean, I've been in these situations. David, I was completely surprised. I walked in on a Monday morning on June 20th of 2016. I was in the office at 6 a.m. like I normally was. I had conducted three phone calls, three conference calls. And by 9.30 in the morning, I was asked to go have a conversation with a couple people. And during that conversation, they said to me, we appreciate what you've done, but you can't work here anymore.

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  23. He's never run a U.S. campaign that I'm aware of. But the point is that was a decision that was made outside of my purview. Those were discussions that were taking place without me being part of that. And unfortunately, what you can't do is you can't be in two places at once. I couldn't simultaneously be in Trump Tower, you know, explaining what the campaign strategy was to the kids and the other key members of the team if I'm also traveling with Donald Trump because we were on the road six days a week.

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  24. Enough people had told him that I didn't have the core competency or capability to get him any further than I had gotten him, which was at that point the Republican nomination. And they believe that they needed a more seasoned professional who was going to come in and run the campaign. And at that juncture, they believe that Paul Manafort, who candidly had never run a campaign in his life, has been a delegate counter, was that person.

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  25. But you know, Dave, if you spend 18 hours a day with somebody, seven days a week for 18 months, you get to know a person. Now, you can like the person, you can hate the person, but you're going to get to know them in that period of time, right? You're going to know what this person's about. You're going to know what they're like. You're going to understand what their value proposition is and what they hold dear. And I saw it firsthand on more than a dozen occasions, he would say to me, Corey Hisha family, do you need to go home and see your family? Do you need to bring your family down here so you can be with them? And I say, sir, I just want to work because I just want to work. And look, that's on me. But he was always very concerned about making sure that my family was taken care of, knowing that. And he would say, would you like me to call you a wife and tell her that you're doing a good job? Sir, I appreciate that, but no, thank you. Because he was always very concerned.

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  26. Have you ever seen him do it? I mean, publicly. Absolutely. You know, what people don't understand about him is how magnanimous he is in private, how gracious he is, how thoughtful he is.

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  27. Well, that's right. And look, what I hoped would be some type of professional that I am. That was my advice is we need to apologize. He said, no, I'm going to double down.

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  28. And he said, no, he hasn't taken care of our veterans enough. And I said, sir, I think we need to rethink this and make an apology. And he said, I think you're wrong. And let's go downstairs and do a press conference. Then we had a 28-minute, extremely contentious press conference. We left Iowa. We canceled our next event. And I remember it well. I got on the airplane. I called my wife and I said, look, I'm coming home. Race is over. That was on a Saturday. And the next day, Sunday, et cetera. That was the news. One of them made the story. Oh, that's

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  29. What did you think when you heard that? As a political operative, my instincts were the campaign is over, as probably most people believe that at the time, and I remember it well, and he walked off the stage, and I've told this story, and I said, Mr. Trump, can I speak to you for a second, sir? And he said, sure. And we walked into a room, we closed the door, and he said, that was pretty good, huh? I said, no, sir. We just said that John McCain wasn't a war hero, and he spent six years in a prison camp.

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  30. That's right. Because when you're with Donald Trump, the decision matrix are him to you, right? And if you're not there to provide input, he wasn't going to wait till he landed the plane at 30,000 feet in two hours from now to make a decision. So look, we built the team in such a way where it was so small that there was no one back running the day-to-day operations because it had to be part of it. Don't forget, you had a first-time candidate. Someone who'd never been involved before.

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  31. Of your own, did you know what happened like anything? We were a startup. We were a small startup. And we were a tight-knit group and we never had a leak. Never. 16 months. Then we started to bring new people in who had a different agenda. And I think it's fair to say that the people who started with the Trump team, their agenda was truly Donald Trump. I don't think I got into this to claim fame and fortune of helping get the next president of the United States elected. I don't think that was what the goal was. I think it was to truly help him. And that was the mindset. And we were all very, very close. As the team expanded, people had their own agendas. And Sergeant Leak stories and want to move their own narratives. And that's okay. And we went from what was a small startup to a mid-sized company and didn't grow quickly enough, in my opinion. I didn't do enough hiring and I get a lot of...

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  32. I lost about 30 pounds, I think, and became a fraction of what it was. And it's not healthy mentally, physically to work that hard. And look, I'm a hard worker and I'm willing to do it. But

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  33. I was very fortunate to spend eighteen months having a front row seat of history, and I know how fortunate I was for that. But you know, in a campaign, when you put 18 hours a day into something seven days a week, other things suffer. Candidly, my family, my health, others, nobody can maintain that. And we had such a small team. It was five of us.

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  34. Government system. You have to have the government that's working for the people again. That's what you need. You can't let the bureaucrats.

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  35. Between December 23rd and January 3rd, the federal government was closed for issuing EIN numbers. First, it was a maintenance system on there, so you couldn't do it electronically. Then I called. I waited 47 minutes. I talked to an operator, and she said, I think her name was Mrs. Robinson. She said, did you fill out the form? I said, no, what I'd like to do it over the phone so I can get this number. She said, no, no, you need to fax it to me. I said, fax it. What year are you in? I don't have a fax machine. I can go to Kinko's maybe and faxes. I said, can I email you? She said, no, we don't have an email. I said, once I faxed, how long till I get my number? Should seven to ten business days? Excuse me? Yeah, seven or ten business days, which means between December 23rd and January 3rd, not one new business was started in this country.

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  36. This is true. So I try to start a small business called Avenue Strategies. And in order for me to take a check from a client, I have to go open up a bank account in order to get a bank account. You have to get something called an employment identification number, EIN number issued by the government.

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  37. Well, no, let's see what it is. But what we know every time is just more regulation, more regulation. You have to make sure that. A true story. I tried to start the small business, right? My avenue strategy. Well, you let me know

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  38. Company today, they couldn't because of the regulatory burdens that the government has placed on them. You have to lift those burdens and what the president has done. He signed an executive order that says for every new regulation, we're going to remove two regulations. That's good smart business sense. Let's see what it is. It

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  39. Here's what you have to remember we don't even know what's coming. Nobody heard the word Uber ten years ago, right? Uber has fundamentally transformed the way that people travel in this country now. If I would have said to you 10 years ago, David, I'm going to put an app on your phone, and every time you press it, a car is going to show up. It's going to take you where you want to go. Yeah, I have that. It's called a taxi. They say, no, no, we're going to fundamentally transform the way we do this. And people now use Uber or Lyft. And I don't work for any of these guys, so it doesn't matter. They fundamentally change the way it's going. And if innovation is what's going to bring our country forward. That's what it has always been. And so where are we going tomorrow and the next day and the next day? It has to be a place where the government is giving you incentives. And I don't mean financial incentives, but they can't be regulatory burdens on companies from growing. And what we've heard time and time and time again on the campaign trail is if you talk to people who've been very successful over a period of three or four or five decades, they will tell you if they had to go start that campaign.

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  40. It's definitely easier to do it overseas. That's exactly right. But even, look, the Make America Grade Again hats, which we sold tens of thousands of, maybe hundreds of thousands of, we use a firm in California to do it. We did a nationwide search. There was about two companies in the U.S. that can actually make these hats and made in the U.S. And our cost point was significantly higher, I think. But maybe those aren't.

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  41. Mr. Trump and now the president. Sat down with over Winnie and said, look, our country's getting killed in these bad trade deals. China's killing us. Vietnam is killing us. We need to do something to be more competitive. You know what we found in the campaign? It is so difficult to use American-made products here that are truly made in America. The baseball caps are a great example. What you could buy in China is at two cents or 3 cents or 10 cents Kashi here, 25 cents or 30 cents.

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  42. It is, but you know, the difference is, you know what you need to do now? The people who used to be building the cars with their hands, we now need them to be coding the cars. I was told that the average car, the average general motors car has a hundred thousand lines of code written into it. That's more code in it than the F-35 Fire Jet. And the reason is because people now use their cars as their offices, as everything. They want to have where they're going. They've got the map inside. They've got hands-free. They can voice command, all those things. You need to retool the system for the people who used to be building the cars with their hands. I will be writing code for those cars. And there's a huge opportunity to grow in that particular field as opposed to just a car building field. I think what you have is you have people in the upper Midwest who've looked at the bad trade deals that Donald Trump has talked about for a long time. And if you go back and look, in 1989, the president sat down with Oprah Winfrey at time candidate Trump and now.

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  43. Right, if you double what any president has ever done in four years. So that's part of what he has said he will accomplish. Part of what he said he's going to accomplish if you look in the upper Midwest states, if you look in the Indianas, the Michigans, the Wisconsins of the world, right? Bringing jobs back there. And part of the jobs that have been lost there have gone through modernization. So not just because of bad trade deals, but basically, look, you can get a robot now to do something that's a question I want to ask.

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  44. I think some of the things that he has to accomplish is yes, put people back to work. His plan, and he's talked about this publicly, is to put 25 million people back to work in four years. Very, very, very difficult to accomplish. I mean, that would be double.

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  45. I don't think that's for me to judge. I think, you know, the present is the one who wants to lay out candidate Trump and now President Trump is the one who's going to lay out his agenda and he'll be judged based on the merits of that agenda and the success or failure of that agenda. So that's not for me to say. I think it's for each individual person. How do you think?

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  46. There's no question that there is a portion of the electorate that wants to hear that. There's no question about it. There is a portion of the electorate who believes that we should close our borders indefinitely to everybody. There's no question. Look, there are some elected officials who've talked about this, both Republicans and Democrats on both sides of the aisle that we need to close the borders and get a better handle. But there's no question there is, particularly in the Republican primary space, there are people who look at that and say, Okay, I understand this, and you know what? Maybe he's right.

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  47. This is not derogatory towards illegal immigrants. We have to take care of the US citizens first. I know it sounds terrible, but I'm an American first. And I think you have to make sure that those people in our country who are Americans that are here legally who want to work have that opportunity to do so. And the best way to potentially do that is to control the borders.

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  48. Of ethnic enclaves. Right, Polish. My family is from Poland. And so used to have a lot of that. And I think what Donald Trump talked about was, look, if we can't control our borders, what we can't have is people coming over and doing things to Americans. And what happened following that speech was Kate Steinel was killed in California on the pier by a person who had been deported five or six or seven times, locked up and deported. He'd heard stories of this many, many times. And what I think he tried to say and what he tried to impress upon people was we're going to put Americans first. And that, I know it sounds like isolationism. I know it sounds like. It sounds like we're going to close the borders. If we where our people can't work, they can't get good jobs.

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  49. I think what Donald Trump tried to relay in that speech was that we need to do a better job with our borders, and people come to this country because they want what's best for their family, because we are an amazing place in the land of opportunity and a nation of immigrants that all of us came here at some way and worked hard. And if you remember, look, when my family came and others, there were areas of the city that were designated for those particular types of background. So Little Canada, we used to call it. I don't think you can say that anymore. The Polish area, which people would go and have their communities, and they would learn English and they'd work hard. Well, this city is an example.

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  50. And we were supposed to be in South Carolina on that Thursday because we were going to go, I went to Hampshire, South Carolina in order of the primary process. And we had to cancel. We had to cancel that out of respect. And what I remember then was that Thursday after that was Hillary Clinton went on television and said it was the type of language that Donald Trump was using that caused this type of incident to happen. Didn't blame him directly, but used that. And then the media went back and looked at what Donald Trump said in that announcement speech. And then on that Friday is when the uproar happened. So he announced on Tuesday, made the same remarks basically in New York, in Iowa, in New Hampshire, but it wasn't until that terrible tragedy in South Carolina where this became more into focus.

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