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Cynthia Bond

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  1. So many things. I mean, it's, I'm so grateful that my mother gets to see. My mother gets to stop giving me money. I know she's really happy about that. She's happy because she always is supported and helped us out. I'm grateful that I can give to her. And I get to provide for my daughter. And I get to walk like in the world with my head high. And so often when I was working on this, when I really didn't think I would be able to complete it, I thought maybe there's a woman out there who needs to hear this story and it will help them. And now that's happening. And so that message being in the world and somebody knowing that, that is what I am eternally grateful for and we'll be grateful for when I am no longer on this planet.

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  2. That's what's taken the longest to learn. Because when something horrible happens to you, well, you are a victim. You are a victim of this crime. You are a victim. You are truly a victim. And when you are older and whether you remember it from the time you're young or whether you have these memories, you feel like a victim. I certainly did for years and years and years.

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  3. Oh my goodness. Well, you know, I have a lot of stories to write. I mean, when I was working on this story. I had to leave so many stories behind. And so my dream really is to live long enough to tell all the stories I want to tell. My other dream is to see my daughter happy. I want her to be a happy adult and to fulfill her dreams. That is another dream. And I have a dream of one day having this writing colony for moms. And that's on my little vision board too. But that will happen. And I believe that now because I know, I just know if you have it up there and you are diligent, it will happen and will happen.

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  4. I don't know really. I think that what it does, what all of this has been, when my father died, I spoke to him and I had this sense that there was this camera lens and it was opening. It was like an aperture. And that's what happened and his spirit left. And when I had my daughter and in that room where I was giving birth to my daughter, it felt as if an aperture, that same aperture, that Cameroon's, it was opening. And I feel that right now. And I didn't know that could happen while you were living. I always thought that that happened when you died. And at birth, that doorway opening. And it is, this is, it's happening right now. And so I'm stepping into it. That is really the biggest challenge is stepping into it.

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  5. Yes, I do, without a doubt. And for those who are skeptical of that, I'd say do it anyway Just seeing something every day, you might think, oh, well, let me do a little something towards that. But for me, it really is. You create what surrounds you creates your world. And it is my screensaver. So literally every single time I opened up my computer, that's what I saw. Every single time.

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  6. Oh my gosh. Well, you were on there. I had you there in a little quote saying how much you liked my book. And these were like the wildest dreams. That's what I put on there. The things I just hoped would happen. And so you were there. And then I had your book club There I had

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  7. I believe in heaven. I do not believe in hell. I believe that I don't believe that there's any force that has a plan for any soul that they writhe anywhere for eternity. I just don't believe that that's the way a divine being thinks. But I do believe that my mother has said this for years, that people create their hell on earth. That people make choices and that becomes their hell. I believe that when people are so tormented, if they are unable to come to a resolution, that sometimes it's difficult for them to ascend fully, I believe that. And sometimes people commit horrific acts, but I don't believe that that is anyone's destiny.

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  8. Oh my gosh, yes. Oh, yeah, throughout my life, either things that are just, it's a way for you to hear what you need to hear.

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  9. Yes. Manifest it, yes. Yes, yes. And it is our fears. It is the collected fear and hate of that group. It is many different things.

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  10. I didn't have a choice I had to. I mean, that's otherwise why write. There's nothing else you have to. I have to. There's no other reason for me to write. It is a part of my life. It's a part of the world.

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  11. How she grew up, and then she found that later. And she was able to find a home and a spiritual home. And so, but I had to find that kind of on my own.

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  12. And I think you know, that is so much the hypocrisy. You know what I'm trying to also say is that God lives here is here and here and here. And true, true religion is about welcoming. It is about welcoming from the heart. And my mother didn't really, I mean, my grandmother was wonderful, but that is not.

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  13. Not really. I mean, we were, my grandmother was very, very religious. And I think so much so she was to the point that my mother had fingernail polish on and she was told that she would be going to hell if Judgment Day came. So she scraped that off. So I think that she was a little hesitant of that and didn't, we weren't really immersed in religious growth. This is all I got.

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  14. Well, the first thing that comes into my mind is my mother. My mother is one of the My mother kept me here, you know. She's so strong. And I remember one time she came to see me and I was having a very hard time. And I had this sense that my mother took her spirit and braided it into my own and gave me her strength so that I could keep going. And over and over and over again, my mother has been that for me.

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  15. But that is how I came to understand that there was more and that we were capable and looking at that. That's how I was able to find that.

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  16. You can put a seed anywhere. You can put it in a crack in a sidewalk and it does not get depressed. It does not say, oh, well, let me give up. It fights for life. It fights to take hold. That is God. That is what the human spirit is about. That's who we are.

    2019-03-20 · Oprah's Super Soul · Cynthia Bond: “Ruby” (An Oprah’s Book Club Selection) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. Her sense of spirituality through nature. And that's what happened to me too. When I first moved to Los Angeles, I started dealing with this and I did not know how to drive. So I was riding on the bus and somebody had said, you know, find something to be grateful for. Find something you're grateful for. And I was like, there is nothing. I am sitting on the bus. There is nothing to be grateful for. And literally I looked out of the window and I saw a tree and it was green. And I said, okay, I can be grateful for green. Green is beautiful. Is beautiful. My favorite color. Green is beautiful. And then I was able to look at the trunk of that tree. That's stunning and that grass. Look at that flower. And it was through nature. And in the book I have the audacious hope of rooted things. That line is because

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  18. Were you ever angry with God? Oh, yes, yes, yes. I am not meant to understand all of the workings of this world. I'm not meant to understand it. I'm here. I'm not meant to understand it, but I know for a fact that God is here, that I am being protected, that I have been protected my whole life. And the thing about Ruby is that she found

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  19. For your honest murder. Right. And my mother said. I always wanted to tell this story, and now that you have, I don't have to. Now that you've told it, I don't have to. Yeah, that's what she said. So I was able to tell that secret

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  20. She was eighteen and my mother always wanted the story told, and I always wanted the story told because my grandfather never saw justice in his lifetime, never saw justice. And he used to see that man walking and never saw justice, but my mother was responsible.

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  21. That's where she was killed. And she had never heard that story, and she went home and asked her mother and she said, your father doesn't talk about this. We don't talk about it. But I did more research. But yeah, my aunt was probably in the late 30s. She was working for an all-white family. And the husband took a liking to her. And the book, I say he chased her all the way to Lonely. And once you make it there, ain't too many choices left. And she ended up being in a relationship with him. And the sheriff's sister told her brother, and he came with his deputies, and they took her and they took her two sisters. They put them in a jail overnight, and they took her out to a field. And I can imagine what those men did to her. And then they shot her over and over and over again. And she was 18.

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  22. That was my aunt. That was my aunt. My mother, when she was a little girl, she was picking blackberries and a little boy pointed to a hill and he says, see that hill up there? That's where your sister Carrie was killed.

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  23. Yes. But back then it was the fabric of life. Because that's the thing. It wasn't this idea of, oh, this separate person is psychic or has this ability. This was the air you breathe.

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  24. Right, right. Well, here's the thing my grandfather was born in 1866. And he made his living finding water with a divining rod. That's how he made his living. He knew if someone was going to die, he was what a

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  25. It's completely a spiritual practice It feels like you are going into another place, another land, another time, but also you never go alone. And that is the act of the spirituality. You go, I go with my ancestors, I go with the people who have walked before me. I go with other... I'm not even quite sure of. I go with my characters. I never go alone.

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  26. So, I was asking the reader to just stay to bear witness and to bear witness to so many of these young girls in these rooms right now, as I speak. They are there.

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  27. You're not alone. You're not alone. If you have another person with you who has seen it, you're no longer alone. And also, I mean, bearing witness is a very powerful act. Oh, it's a great.

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  28. It does, it does, and that's why the young people I've worked with for so many years, very few of them have dreams of publishing a writing a book. But once they put it on the page, they are able to identify their life and see their lives.

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  29. It is the reason I am here. At times I felt that I, my mind, my spirit, all of it was like a fine gold necklace and it was tangled. It was too tangled to ever parse apart. I never saw how I was going to be able to do that. But I wrote, I just wrote. I wrote this book.

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  30. She didn't know I know the pain she bears for not being able to protect me from these things. But my mother, I mean, nobody messed with my mother. You know, my mother is tough. My mother is fierce. She never thought to look. So close in our circle she never thought to look close. Because it's always...

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  31. Right I really feel that sometimes my little soul was sent as a reporter to come through this world and to see some of the things that I saw.

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  32. They do not have to be destroyed. They, as a matter of fact, not only do they not have to be destroyed, but they are victorious. And there will always be a seam. There will always be a wound in my heart, a seam in my heart that is hurting. It will never go away, but it is no longer my shame. It is now, I am It is like my badge. It is my badge of honor. I have lived, I have gotten through The battle, and I am strong and standing. And that's what I want to say.

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  33. That came a lot from talking to the young people, but also, you know, I've come to this point in my life about the way I talk about my abuse. There are certain things that I do feel comfortable talking about and certain things that I don't. But what I can say is that there are people in this world who know what they did to me. And my hope is that they know that they did not destroy me. And I also, for other people who have lived through that, I want them to know that they do not have to be destroyed by another person sickness or another person's poison

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  34. The lesson is that it is possible to not just survive anything, but it is possible to be a victor. It is possible to be victorious over any obstacle. And that's something I know in my marrow, I know in my bones, that no matter what.

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  35. Well, I was starting to have memories of my own past and my own abuse. I was starting to deal with that. And I had repressed a lot of those. I'd kept them down. I think on some level I always knew, but I had really kept those away, just as I did when I was a child, you know, which is. It's easy to do that. This thing happens to you, and then you lead this double life, this life of the abused person and this other childhood. But I was dealing with that. And I mean, I was on the floor calling for help, calling for therapists, calling for something. I mean, I would drive around, have this little yellow Ford fiesta, and I would drive around Los Angeles just crying, you know, just weeping. It was a very difficult time. And a time I never thought I'd be able to get through.

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  36. Yeah, it is. I never was completely comfortable as an actress. Never, never, before I would have a performance, I would literally just get sick. I just would feel horrible. But that's what my dream had been. So you have to do this dream. But I've always been a writer and I've always written. And it's always how, even when I was preparing for a character, I would write an entire Like essay about them, like a little short story about their life. But that's how I made it beyond what I'm saying.

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  37. And when you write your pen is a little utensil, a little tool to pour that hate out of your own body and put it onto the page.

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  38. I was in such agony, such pain that I didn't have an expectation except to, because I believe that if you are experiencing great pain, and if you've been the victim of any kind of abuse, that it's almost as if someone is putting their poison, their hate, their fear into your body, literally into your body.

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  39. I think really when I start writing, I have to sink into this other place. It's really like I'm settling into myself and I Have to fully be in that world so that I'm feeling and seeing and tasting everything. That's the only way I can write. And I won't start writing until I'm in that place.

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  40. Like two weeks. I don't want to say how long I was wearing the shirt. I was wearing the shirt a long time. I was in a lot of pain. I was going through a hard time. And I just sat down. She gave us a writing exercise and I wrote she wore gray like rain clouds. And that's how I started. That's how the book started.

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  41. So many different ways. I mean, there's just growing up with my mother and hearing her stories. She grew up on this little farm, so she has these little scars on her. And we used to point to these scars and say, tell us this story. And every scar was a story about where she grew up. So even though I didn't grow up there, I felt like that was a part of my soul. I felt that that town was a part of who I was. And so I was going through just my own really difficult time in Los Angeles and I went into a writing class and I've been wearing this gray shirt for

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