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Dale Dougherty

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first: 2018-08-27
most recent: 2018-08-27
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“Right. Well, you know, one of the things that's interesting with making make is that the hardest part about doing it is Selecting the content. There's no shortage of maker content that's out there. It's become such a big community, and they're just cranking out projects nonstop. And they submit a lot of stuff, all the makers, it's nice to be in Make Magazine. So that part is... That's our big challenge. How do we select the right mix that tells the right story that we've got the story arc? We're not a news magazine. And as Dale's saying, people hold on to their collections. So we want to give them something that fits into their library.”
2018-08-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Maker Faire founder Dale Dougherty and Make Magazine editor Mike Senese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, when I looked at this, what excited me about this versus other O'Reilly things are a lot of code books about COVID? This was visual. And so I thought, well, let's try magazine and kind of designed it to be somewhat like a collector's item that you keep. And it's evergreen content. It's sometimes stupid, I'd say, to do a print magazine today. Yeah. But I find that there's still a real appetite. We have a digital edition. People prefer the print edition. And even among kids, there's a kind of a different psychology around some of this.”
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“Yeah, it's true. I mean, but Niche magazines still have their role out there. And I had, you know, I'd done the first commercial website in GNN in 1993. Oh my God, you're GNN? Yeah, I started. Wow. But...”
2018-08-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Maker Faire founder Dale Dougherty and Make Magazine editor Mike Senese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, absolutely. Believe in desktop publishing I To do. Right, right, absolutely. But when you're doing that, talk a little bit about the concept of a magazine because a magazine is something people don't make anymore.”
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“Computer design, you can kind of do it without being an expert at it. So that does start with hobbyists who expect, but I think it broadens the broader population that amateurs can do things that professionals used to do.”
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“And in other parts of the world, that's still a dominant mode of thinking. But what I saw around this particular, given the internet and other things that we were making as a form of self-expression, that this said something about us. Yeah, absolutely. And it was just like writing a blog. We need to stop publishing. Yeah, exactly. All those things, you know, and you think about early Apple computers, I mean, people using desktop publishing, graphic arts, I could make a newsletter. It was really the creative use of technology for your own purposes. And what just seemed to be what Mike was talking about is now there was just new components that could be mixed and put together. And software actually could connect this stuff together. And I think a lot of what's making this possible is that the software is kind of embedding a lot of the expertise that you used to have to learn to do something like, you know,”
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“It's become vocation. All right, let's talk about that concept of it becoming, because when you go from hobbyists, when you have these kind of this is what you create, one of the things that I think, and we'll get into these topics in the next sections about, you know, is the 3D printing and how people are going to manufacture in the future. When you think about where it's gone, where we have to move from an obvious to doing it, even as there's more and more makers, there's less and less reason to make. You know what I mean? Like everything is provided for you.”
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“If you wanted to create and affordable, easy, and with these growing huge communities of people that could all contribute and help you learn how to do something without going to 12 years of engineering, electrical engineering school. And so from there, we've watched this go from hobbyist into...”
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“One of the great things that happened just as Make was launching, there were various technologies that came about that really helped democratize technology, made things easier than ever before, a prototyping, electronics prototyping, Arduino being one of the hugest ones. Open source electronics that suddenly everybody could do”
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“Whatever. It's a making thing. So when you think about doing that now in this day and age, because there used to be, again, all these magazines and all these ways to communicate with people. And we do know a lot about technology, but you're right, people aren't involved up to their elbows, essentially, in it anymore. It's a much more, there's a step. From the way it was. So, how do you then cover? How do you look at it? Because it could be looked as like a hobbyist kind of thing.”
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“Penetrate is like we read a lot about technology and sometimes it's kind of at this abstract layer which we actually don't know much about it. How do we penetrate more deeply and just understand how it works? And, you know, obviously a lot of our technology today is sort of wrapped up for us and we can't open it and use it. We've had this phrase, you know, if you can't open it, you don't own it, associated with the magazine. But it's just encouraging people to get in and customize, personalize, change things to make it the way they want to. And that's my original insight around this was that's what hackers were trying to do, not the way they wanted to make it work. Not the Russians, not the Russians, but just when we talked about hacking in a positive.”
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“Like, you had nowhere else. There's a great story. There's no movie theater. Three brothers read a story about a kite that, you know, building a kite that could lift a human being off the ground. So they go to build it. And it almost kills himself. I mean, they jump off the barn to try to get enough lift. And they drag it behind a car. But, you know, it was this idea that you don't just read something, you try to do it. You try to figure it out. And I think what I kind of wanted to...”
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“Great piece. And he talks about how as a kid he read popular science with his brothers. And Wolf's whole point was why did the giants of the information age grow up in small towns in the Midwest as opposed to the large metropolitan areas? And it was some degree this sense of play and taking things apart and putting things together.”
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“Them themselves and they shared the designs. He says, you know, I would do it for free for the rest of my life. It was that thing that they could figure out how to do things that was really, I think, core to this. And I think it goes back to the semiconductor industry. Yeah, well, one of the founders, whose name escapes me right now, there's a great piece that Tom Wolf, the writer, passed away this year. Doug Eggle”
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“Yeah, in fact, I think sometimes it's really misunderstood of how this is learned. But, you know, Steve Wozniak is a classic example, the homebrew computer club where he says, you know, they couldn't buy computers.”
2018-08-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Maker Faire founder Dale Dougherty and Make Magazine editor Mike Senese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right. And so, Deal, talk to me about the idea of make, because this was at the heart of Silicon Valley. As you said, you're a maker. I think I'd say it a lot, actually, either you're a maker or you're not. You create things. And not just physical objects like a robot or a drone or whatever, but link companies and things. The concept of crafting.”
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“You at a young age. Yeah. Well, I did. Yeah. I grew up. Wanting to take everything apart and seeing if I could put it back together again. Through the years, I realized that quite a few people actually have the same exact story. We all have the same origin story. And there is this desire for all of us to. Use our hands to make things. I have spent my whole life taking things apart and putting them together and making things and went to college, started on an engineering track, changed course. And then from there, Just sort of became my focus. It's become my career. Telling stories, helping tell other people's stories”
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“And then we started Maker Fair, partly because just meeting really interesting people. And I thought, would it be interesting to ask people about, you know, here's their project, talk to them about it. It's kind of like an art fair, a craft fair. Science fair, really, but it's really the people that inspire you. When you talk to someone who cares a lot about it. And what I've also found is some makers are shy, maybe socially awkward, but... When they're talking about their project, they open up and they're expansive. And it's a great way to really experience this and be inspired to do it yourself.”
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“Nobody does. Right. But I was inspired by that and wanted to try to, I wanted to see if I could bring that back to science. And kind of reconnect it to the digital age. Both physical and digital things, and whether it's robots or rockets or other things. But it seemed like this, you know, I just wanted to encourage people to do it based on people I found that were already doing it. So cool things, fun things.”
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“One summer, my brothers and I made everything that was in a cartoon, and it was either popular science or popular mechanics, it probably wasn't popular mechanics. We made like a garage door opener with a tennis ball. We did rockets. We did all kinds of things, which we don't do anymore at all. Nobody does.”
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“It every month. But popular mechanics goes back to the early 20th century and has this wonderful broad permission. Do this and do that and do that, you know, you could make a garage, you could make a birdhouse. Make a boat that sails”
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“But the idea was, you know, I think she understood that we do things. As a way of connecting to other people. And that's really what I meant. You make a pie when people are coming over because you want to tell them you made it for them. And I think a lot of things, even technology, could be looked at that way. And ways make is like a popular science or popular mechanics of the 50s when there was a culture of hacking. They didn't use that word. Well, popular science spirits.”
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“Treat it like television and absorb it and consume it and do more of it. So the idea of maker really is to invite people to see themselves as makers, as creative people any age, any portion of their life to just do things because they enjoy it and it's rewarding and fun and it actually background.”
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“Know, but it also can make you just more of a consumer, right? Right where you just, and what I'm really interested in is the creative side of, you know, we have this technology. We could create wonderful things with it, or we could just.”
2018-08-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Maker Faire founder Dale Dougherty and Make Magazine editor Mike Senese · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly. You know, long before I started using the word they were makers, they weren't always, always identified to each other. They often thought of themselves as sort of Tinkerers and things on their own. And this helped to form a community of people and say, this is kind of the way people learn technology and science. And often not in school, but through just their own interests in developing that. And I think coupled with that was, you know, the internet has sort of two qualities to it. It can make you, you can learn to do almost anything.”
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