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“Yes, yes. Let's go back quite a long. I don't anymore, actually. I used to carry around a plectrum from a time that... Somebody had said, I think, was it to Noel Gallagher or was it the guy from Green Day? Anyway, and will you play a tune? He said, well, if anyone's got a plexum, I will and no one had a pletum. And I thought after that for a while, you should never really be without a pletum.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't want to get into the fine economics of grace profit on a hotel room sale, but all these things, it's about how you work in the formula of what the business proposition is to the guest and how much you're going to be able to charge. I was a pricing guy. Pricing and pricing and revenue manager.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, it tells you that if you're working at the BBC, you're interested in broadcasters and what they're doing. If you work at the hotel business, you're interested in how hotel rooms are set up.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He told you that. So I worked, look, I worked at the hotel business for many, that was my career for most of it. I wouldn't say I've got an expertise in so I did probably in my 20s and 30s when I was working in the hotel trade. I did whenever you go to a hotel. I would take a particular interest. I used to have gone for a 10 gram rather than a five gram. What does”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It wouldn't be the right thing to do because it'd be undemocratic. By the way, I think you'd get the same result. You will know as MPs we hear from people on all manner of things. I've heard very little from people who supported Leave who've now changed their mind to remain. I have actually heard from people who've changed their mind the other way. Now that's not very scientific, I realise, but I don't get the impression that there is this groundswell. But anyway, it would be undemocratic. It was made clear at the time. It's a single shot. It's a simple question. You the people will decide, they did.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, you put your finger on a really important point, which is that these kinds of negotiations inevitably end up involving compromise. And you're probably not going to get something that anybody is 100% happy with, but that's part of the deal. In a liberal democracy, you're not just delivering something anyway on behalf of a minority. You've got to deliver something actually on behalf of the whole country. But on the yeah, you mentioned the outcome of the Brexit referendum. I mean, this was an intensely participatory campaign, more so than any general election campaign I've been involved in, with quite a high turnout. And on a simple question. And the leaders of the three main political parties had all been arguing one thing, and the people said the other. Now for Democrats, for people working in politics and public policy, that is a big thing to face up to and to consider some of the errors and interpretation we may have made in the past and not to make them again. So we absolutely need...”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, look, we have to, there's a process we're going to go through here to make sure that people have, they know what's being put forward and that they can have confidence in it and exactly the way that that comes about over the next few days, few weeks we shall see.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, not only with Brexit. I mean, you're conscious constantly. I mean, actually, working in Parliament, every day you go through that door. It's one of the reasons I think it's important.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and he didn't ideological. He did a great job. And I mean, that was exactly the time of my me, I suppose, coming to peak political consciousness, the time when I was an undergraduate. And I think, yeah, without doubt, he did a fantastic job.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I try to get on with doing the job. I'm incredibly privileged to have this job. It's the one job I always wanted, I always aspired to. So on the night I was selected as a parliamentary candidate in East Hampshire, I was asked one day if things went well, if things went well for the Conservative Party would get elected to government, if things go okay for you, one day what job would you like? And I said, I'd like to be a minister in the Department for Education. And that is what I'm doing. I think it's the most incredible privilege and opportunity I'm determined to do my very best.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Look, it has here in Washington's full year. But it hasn't. None of that has gone away. And although I'm not blaming all this blame at your door, but the media does go on constantly about leaving the European Union. That's not what I and my colleagues in government spend all our time thinking about. And, you know, if you look just at the employment growth that we've seen in this country over the last number of years, I mean, it is quite remarkable. We know we need to do more on productivity and wage growth to go with that, but that is what people are focused on. In my area in education, the continuing reform that we're making, the advances in the health service, I mean, all of these things are incredibly important and have not been smothered by Brexit.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We do need to work harder. I mean, nobody was expecting quite some of the claims that these days are made from the left wing of the Labour Party about what it's possible to do, where you can sort of get money out of thin air in order to pay for things which will appeal to people. I thought the chance we had just found the magic tree. We have to keep making the case that in order to be able to afford the excellent public services and the growth in them that we all want and we all rely on, we need a growing economy. And to have a growing economy, you need investment, you need job creation, you need innovation, you need a business-friendly environment, you need companies to want to site their headquarters in this country rather than in some other country. You want them to be investing here. And that, you know, all of those things, a conservative approach will...”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, we are the party that people rightly look to for responsible government, including financially responsible government while continuing to pursue reform through society. And I don't think that core essence isn't going to go away. You know, we're about belief in nation and in family and enterprise and opportunity. And I've always seen those four things as the four kind of corners of conservatism. And I think that is timeless. The particular requirements, any time, you know, the fact that we're dealing with Brexit at the moment, other times there's the world economy goes up and down, but those aspects, I think, remain constant.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So education spending is not unrelated to what is spent. There's also the question of how you spend it. And we're also trying to make sure that schools have access to better purchasing arrangements and stuff. An awful lot of money goes on non-teaching costs, on everything else. And the way that we are organized, we need to make sure that schools are able to and multi-academy trusts and diocese and local authorities are able to tap into the power, the size of the system, if you like, to make sure we are getting absolutely the best deals.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We spend on schools, and by the way, on colleges and the rest of education is an investment in the future. And so, yes, we do need to make sure that we are funding at the right level to get the most out of every child, to fulfil their potential, also for the productivity of the economy, and so on. So, yeah, all ministers will be having, as you know, as is the case. Every spending will be having intense discussions and doing the analysis to make sure we get that right.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because you really said, yeah, that stuff's trouble a bit, haven't you? But the Depart Statistics. That statistic is absolutely correct, and listeners can look it up. It's from the OECD. The report came out in 2018, this year. It refers to 2015. It's the last time they have the comparative data. Proportion of GDP are spent on primary and secondary education among the G7 nations, the UK, and it's measured at the UK level, is the highest.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, absolutely. And there are more teachers now than there were in 2010. There's more money being spent on schools, considerably more than, say, a generation ago, and compared to other countries, proportion of GDP that we spend on primary and secondary state education is the highest in the G7. So there is money going into schools. That stuff right is...”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, these are relatively small additional capital, so small additional, you know, you can choose your own phrase, but they are for the problem with the phrase little.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was encouraged that it was possible to find £400 million for additional small capital projects for in-year. That was an encouraging thing. School budgets are tight. I totally recognize that. We do spend more on state education as a proportion of national income than most other countries, and we do spend more than we used to. But we also do more, and schools do more. They want to do more and will always be trying to do more.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The vast majority of which are and will continue to be comprehensive intake. But we've also said that for the minority of secondary schools which are grammar schools, if they're good, if they're popular, if parents like them and they're delivering a good education, then if they can widen their access, then they should be allowed to expand their offer as well.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, I think I was making the point in that. I think that was a speech. I think I was making that you're shaking your head. Maybe it wasn't. Maybe it was an article. I think I was making the point. Pamphlet 2014. Okay. Access always. Okay, so I think there was part of a point about diversity in schools. And I think having schools that specialise in certain areas is a good thing, sports specialist schools. We're bringing in math schools now at six film level. I think all of that can be good and add to diversity and choice in the school system. When people talk about bringing back grammar schools, if you really, really push them, quite often it turns out they talk about something else. They're talking about an ethos of a school and all the kids wearing uniform properly tied and up to the collar and the head teacher knows the name of every child and the teacher walks down the street and walks down the corridor and sees a piece of litter they pick it up. Now none of those things require selection at 11. What they're describing is a good school and I want to make sure there's a good school for everyone.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, this from the days when you used to have there was an exam, and then you would get an, well, not in my case, get an offer. So you had the exam and the interview, and I didn't get, you don't know how close you are, you just don't get in. I quite enjoyed the experience, actually, of applying. And probably it was that experience that made me then really try hard to do it again. It's one of the reasons I think it's actually really important that kids in secondary schools have the opportunity to see difference types of university and think, you know, actually that could be for me, even if not immediately, that wasn't my immediate reaction.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I should first say, going to the school I went to, I think really did help me in my life, and I'm very conscious of that. I think actually going to, I mean, the other thing you mentioned was going to Oxford University made a massive difference in my life. Didn't get in first time, got lucky enough to get in on the second attempt. And it was a big decision for me to make to pull out of the system and try again the next gen. That made a big difference. Just for interest, did you blow it?”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I do have experience of schools direct myself because I went to some my children go to some my wife as happens as a teacher I know lots of other teachers I know lots of other children I mean we all actually were actually one of the features of this job and you discover this pretty quickly after you take it on is that everybody has a view on education and sometimes quite strong views on education but I think what's at the heart of your question is the need to understand the full range of education in the country is one of the reasons I go visit so many schools and indeed other educational institutions I think we've done around 110 since the start of the year education between schools and colleges and nurseries and so on I think that's really important”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“As I say, Jacob is a really, he's a very significant member of parliament, makes a very significant contribution to the debate. I don't necessarily have to agree with him about every detail of that. There are many people in politics, actually. In fact, I agree with Jacob much more than I did with many others. But there are many people in politics who don't necessarily have to agree with Tokyo, but you can totally respect their view and appreciate that it's an important view to put.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, we were in, I mean, as you will recall as well, you know, in student politics, you have all sorts of elections and campaigns and stuff going on. And I was lucky on that occasion to make it over the line”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm not sure about that. I guess if you called Damien at some point, someone's going to stick the omen next to it. I don't think I was regularly called that. I probably had other insults attached to me, but I don't particularly remember that one.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, Jacob and I worked holidays. We were in the same college and in the same. I also like Jess Phillips as it happens. But yeah, no, Jacob has always been a big character in politics. He's actually a very nice man as well. And I'm proud to call him a friend.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Of course, I wasn't celebrating her downfall. I mean, I think in politics, sometimes there is a sense that, you know, a time has come. And I think the John Major years, I think we're also a very important part, a very important phase in conservatism. But you know what? Mrs. Thatcher did for our country is not to be underestimated. And when I continues this day, when I talk to people in other countries, they continue to remark upon that and they affect direct or indirect that actually it had in other parts of the world as well.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, yeah, in my early teens, yeah, you would have found CND designs on my exercise book stuff in common with many, many other kids of that age and that time. You grew up in the Northwest. We are not far apart in age. And that wasn't an abnormal thing. It took me some time, but I got there, to realize some of the advantages I had in my life and to realize also what I thought could help to spread those advantages to others. And that's what made me a concern.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, I think you can become political through your family background without talking about the great issues of the day every night at dinner. And that's probably the, people often sometimes talk about a light bulb moment when they realize they were going to be involved in politics. I can't point to a light bulb moment. I think it was more of a slow burn. And that comes from values that you get from your family, from your parents, actually at school we spent a lot of time talking about issues, moral issues, political issues. And my own sort of awareness gradually develops. As a teenager, I was quite left-wing in my views, and then there came a point around, well, I think it was exactly age 17 where I realised actually what I was was a conservative.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He did on that occasion. Yeah, you all remain it, quite passionately. He did on that occasion, but he's also been great. He comes out in campaigns, and that's fantastic.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, no, we don't. Again, I don't really talk that much about politics, but that sometimes we did during the referendum campaign, for example, that dad is.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Look, these are subtle is probably the wrong word. These are complex and nuanced issues. So yes, my family has a strong sense of Irishness. And of course, that's also true of my extended family with my relatives. But we're also proud to be British. very, very proud to be British. To come back to what you were asking about before, the background of my family probably makes me even more keen on us continuing to support the Northern Irish peace and its continuance even more so. But it doesn't change my view on any of these things.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, mum and dad weren't actually very police, they had quite strong views. My mum in particular had quite strong views and has always been a big influence in my life. But we weren't a particularly overtly political household. Mum had always been a conservative voter. Dad, when he moved to England, was a Labour voter. I think my mother sort of sorted him out on that front. So by the time the sort of mid-70s came along, they were both conservative voters. But we weren't one of those households. And I sometimes hear on political interviews, people talking about how every night at the dinner table, talking about the great issues of the day, that wasn't really us.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Look, I can understand why people say that, and we aren't going back. I mean, I think the will is there in both the communities and indeed the British government, the Irish government, everybody has put so much into making this work. And it is going to work, but you still have to think when people talk about the border and talk about the various arrangements that could be put in place and what constitutes a hard border. Just as I say, it's not like other land borders in Europe. So you think about any kind of infrastructure that you might have to put in at or indeed near the borderline, in parts of Northern Ireland would be a target for somebody. And then you have to increase the security you put in place around that infrastructure. And then there is the risk that things get worse. Now, having said all that, I don't anticipate any of that happening. As you know, we're working towards a deal that makes none of this, you know, none of this is going to come into play, but it does show why in the Irish government and indeed in Northern Ireland,”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, we're living in Ulsingham and South Manchester and elsewhere before that, actually. But then we would, you know, we have a lot of relatives in Northern Ireland. And when we would go there, you would be stopped regularly in the car. This never happens in mainland Britain, stopped and asked for your driving license, your identity. When you drive past police stations and it looked like sort of small fortresses and the general sort of sense of the reality of the troubles going on and so much progress has been made since then in the peace process. I mean to an extent that back then in the 1970s people just didn't dream imaginable in our lifetimes and that is a very precious thing. The border of course has been largely normalized and I mean it's fantastic to see the way that's happened. It's not totally normalized. It's not exactly like any other sort of land border in Europe and we have to be very very conscious”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, of course I do. I mean, in the 1970s, our annual summer holiday was going to Northern Ireland, and that was considered quite an odd thing to do, quite an eccentric thing to do by the other kids at school.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, look, we're on a journey. This was always going to be very difficult since we had the referendum and the referendum results, which many people just did not expect would go the way it did, but it was a decisive result from the public. Yeah, we have to enact it, but there are many, many different considerations. There's many aspects to our relationship with 27 countries. And there's a lot of stuff to get right. And there's a lot of different interests and so on at home that, of course, you have to pay attention to.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Got a ground team, you've got a team of engineers, you've got your cabin crew, you've got the whole team working together.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Course, you trust the pilot, but you trust the entire team as well that's working. You know, you've got to get a bit tortured, doesn't it?”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You have to know your destination, and sometimes you need to buckle up, tighten it a bit, and get through a little bit of turbulence knowing that the destination is within sight.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not going to comment on anything anybody said. These are private meetings. But yeah, my colleague's are capable of colourful”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Look, we have parliamentary sovereignty there representing the people, and then we have all the machinery of government. Obviously, it's the prime minister who's in the driving seat in terms of doing the negotiation along with the DEXU secretary. That is entirely right and proper. But then, you know, the cabinet is there as the layer of government. And then you've got parliament, then you've also got the media, then you've got the public, you've got civic society, all sorts of groups actually. You have to have broadly on side with what's happening because government happens by consent.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's certainly a squash around the table that I can definitely confirm. But look, it's part of the institutional setup of government and politics. And there are many opportunities to have political discussion. Actually, they do happen in cabinet as well. But, you know, it's a decision-making body. And actually, I think it performs rather well. People get the chance of have their say. And so these issues are sort of fully aired.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The honest answer to that is I did not have any expectations of what sitting around the cabinet table would be like. Actually, people sometimes ask me when you become an MP, is it like you expected? And the truth is, I never actually sat at home thinking, I wonder what it's like being an MP. You know, it's an immense privilege to do it. You give it your all. You try and do your best. But I don't think you can compare it to some idea that you had of it beforehand.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Look, we'll see. I mean, we know that we have to keep making progress on the negotiations, but the exact timing of these things is always, I mean, there's multiple considerations, including, of course, the fact that you are in a two-way negotiation. So you have to see the pace at which it moves.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Course, you trust the pilot, but you trust the entire team as well that's working. You've got to ground, this is getting a bit tortured, doesn't it? You've got a ground team, you've got a team of engineers, you've got your cabin crew, you've got the whole team working together.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think you have to know your destination, and sometimes you need to buckle up, tighten it a bit, and get through a little bit of turbulence knowing that the destination is within sight.”
2018-11-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Damian Hinds One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source