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2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, we did a pretty good job. Dan, it was an honor to talk to you. Thank you so much for being part of creating one of my favorite services and products. This is actually a little bit of an experiment. Allow me to sort of fanboy some of the things I love. So thanks for wasting your time with me today.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, there's something magical about that engine of creation. Like you said, programming, I would say, I mean, it's even just actually what you said with even just programs. I don't care if it's like some JavaScript thing, a button on the website. It's like magical that you brought that to life. I don't know what that is in there, but that seems, that's probably some version of reproduction and sex, whatever that's in evolution. But creating that HTML button. Has echoes of that feeling, and it's magical.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Try this out on you. I sometimes ask about the meaning of life. Do your father know an engineer, you're building up a company? Do you ever zoom out and think like what the hell is this whole thing for? Like why? Why are we descendants of apes even on this planet? What's the meaning of it all?”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But it's weird that the tribe is different now. Like you could have a connection one way connection with Joe Rogan as opposed to the tribe of your physical.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's a real friendship. I mean, now it's like two way, but it's still surreal. And that's the magic of podcasting. I'm not sure what to make of it. That voice, it's not even the video part. It's the audio that's magical. I don't know what to do with it, but it's people listen to three, four hours.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's sad, but it's also beautiful. Like, I've gotten the chance to like our conversation now. There's somebody, I guarantee you there's somebody in Russia. Listening to this now, like jogging, there's somebody who is just smokes some weeds, sit back on a couch and just like enjoying life. I guarantee you that we'll write in the comments right now that yes, I'm in St. Petersburg, I'm in Moscow, I'm whatever, and we're in their head. They have a friendship with us. I'm the same way. I'm a huge fan of podcasting. It's a beautiful thing. I mean, it's a weird one way human connection. 4 went on Joe Rogan, and still I'm just a huge fan of his. So it was like, we had, I've been friends with Joe Rogan for 10 years, but one way.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And that's the cool thing about podcasting like three four hour conversations that It's very different than the clickbait journalism. It's like the opposite there's a hunger for that. A willingness for that”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In, what's his name? Chris Latner, who's a Google. Oh, he's not Google anymore, sci-fi. He's one of the most legit engineers I talk with. I talk with him again on this podcast. He gives me private advice a lot. And you said for this podcast, I should like interview, like I should widen the range of people because that gives you much more freedom to do stuff. So his idea, which I think I agree with Chris, is that you go to the extremes. You just cover every extreme base and then it gives you freedom to then go to the more nuanced conversations. I think there's a safe place for that. There's certainly a hunger for that nuanced conversation, I think, amongst people where on social media you get canceled for anything slightly tense, that there's a hunger to go full.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, I definitely tried to do that with other, so you should do that in moderation. I think it's a pretty safe place, safe place to be. One of the cool things with this podcast, and I don't know you didn't sign up to hear me listen to this bullshit, but.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It away now, but I actually haven't even thought about that. So my current approach, and I do this with interviews But obviously, that's a special one I try not to think about questions until last minute. I'm trying to sort of get into the mindset. And so that's why I'm soaking in a lot of stuff, not thinking about questions, just learning about the man. But in terms of like human to human, it's like, I would say it's, I don't know if you're a fan of mob movies, but like the mafia, which I am a good fellows and so on. He's much closer to mob morality, which is like”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, there's, I don't know if you know him. There's a guy named Stephen Kodkin. He's a historian of Stalin that I spoke to on this podcast. I'll speak to him again. The guy knows this shit on Stalin. He read everything It's so fascinating to. To talk to somebody, like he knows Stalin better than Stalin, you himself. It's crazy. Like you have, I think he's a Princeton. His whole life is Stalin. Yeah, it's great. And in that context, you also talks about and writes about Putin a little bit. I've also read at this point I think every biography of Putin, English biography of Putin, I need to read some Russians. Obviously, I'm mentally preparing for possible conversation with Putin.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The possible things that could be happening in China with overreach of government. I don't know. There's a lot of possibilities there. I suppose.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, it's incredible. It made me wish that somebody did a good job. 1930s. Like starvation as stalemate, like leading up to World War II. And in World War II itself, like Stalingrad and so on. I feel like that story needs to be told. Millions of people died. To me, it's so much more fascinating than Hitler because Hitler is like a caricature of evil almost, that it's so, especially with the Holocaust, it's so difficult to imagine that something like that is possible ever again. Stalin to me represents something that is possible. Like the so interesting, like the bureaucracy of it is so fascinating that it potentially might be happening in the world now, like that we're not aware of, like with North Korea, another one that there should be a good film on.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Just studied it, like did a good job of creating it and then got it so accurate, like poetically and the facts that you need to get accurate, he got accurate, just the spirit of it down to like the bowls that pets use, just the whole feel of it”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because I think there's a good, I haven't watched yet the good movie on the movie on Churchill. With Gary Oldman, I think as Gary Oldman. I might be making that up. But I think he won, like he was nominated for an Oscar something. So I love these movies about these humans and Stalin, like Chernobyl made me realize the HBO show that there's not enough movies about Russia that capture. That spirit, I'm sure it might be in Russian there is, but the fact that some British dude that did comedy, I feel like he did hangover, some shit like that. I don't know if you're familiar with the person who created Chernobyl, but he was just like some guy that doesn't know anything about Russia. And he just went in.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right, but like the thing is, it was so close. What probably was reality, it was caricaturing reality to where I think an observer might think that this is not like they might think it's a comedy. Well, in reality, that's the absurdity of how people act with dictators. I guess it was too close to reality for me.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I like that. I wish it wasn't so, there's a movie called Inglorious Bastards Hitler and so on. Some reason those movies pissed me off. I know a lot of people love them, but I just feel like there's not enough good movies, even about Hitler. There's good movies about the Holocaust. But even Hitler, there's a movie called Dawnfall that people should watch. I think it's the last few days of Hitler. That's a good movie turn into a meme. Good, but on Stalin, I feel like I may be wrong on this, but at least in the English speaking world, there's not good movies about the evil of Stalin.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Distorting information as it travels up the chain. That people unwilling to take responsibility for things and just kind of like this laziness. Resulting in evil.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's one funny thing that stands out to me is in what is authoritarian, dystopian stuff, or just basic, like, you know, if you look at movie Contagion, it seems that the movies government is almost always exceptionally competent It's like used as a storytelling tool of extreme competence. Like, you know, you use it whether it's good or evil, but it's competent. It's very interesting to think about where much more realistically is its incompetence and that incompetence isn't itself. Has consequences that are difficult to predict, like bureaucracy. As a very boring way of being evil. Of just, you know, if you look at the show HBO Show Chernobyl. Really good story of how bureaucracy, you know. Leads to catastrophic events, but not through any kind of evil in any one particular place, but more just like the...”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Different versions of it on social media as well. It's not just like marriages and so on. It's genetic sorting in terms of what Dawkins called memes, his ideas”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, yeah, can you just slow a little tangent on that? Is how many Dune books are there? Like, do you recommend people start with the first one? If that was...”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Since you mentioned books, I don't know if you can answer this question, but people love it when I ask it, which is, are there books, technical, fiction, or philosophical that you enjoyed or have an impact on your life that you would recommend? You already mentioned Dune, like all of the dune.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Find that people are different. One of the things. I had a group at MIT. That I found that like. Some people I could like scream at and criticize hard and that made them do much better work and really push them to their limit. And there's some people that I had to non-stop compliment because they're so already self-critical about everything they do. I have to be constantly at all because they're already criticizing themselves and you have to kind of encourage and like celebrate their little victories. And it's kind of fascinating how that the complete difference in people.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, is there pain points and challenges you have to overcome from becoming from going to a programmer to becoming a programmer of humans?”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Especially in this time of so much kind of existential dread that people are going through because of COVID. Like having rockets that just keep going out there now with humans. I don't know that it just like you said, I mean, it gives you a reason to wake up in the morning and dream for us engineers. It's inspiring as hell, man. Well, let me ask you the worst possible question, which is, so you're like, The Courier programmer, your. An engineer, but now you made the unfortunate choice, or maybe that's the way life goes, of basically moving away from the low-level work and becoming a manager, becoming an executive, having meetings. What's that transition been like?”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not many. I mean, people say, like, people say that I'm like a fan of Elon Musk. I'm not a fan of anybody who is like Steve Jobs and Elon Musk, and there's just not many of those folks.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Pass for anything that you can hold the board and every all the investors hostage by saying like either we do it my way or I leave and everyone is too afraid of you to leave because they believe in your vision so that But that requires being really good at what you do.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This is the what I believe that Steve Jobs character and Elon Musk character is like. You basically have to be so good at your job.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The short term, but this goes to the metrics thing that we were talking about earlier. I do believe. A fundamental belief that if you have a metric of long-term happiness, Like not short term engagement, but long term happiness and growth and both like intellectual emotional health of your users, you're going to make a lot more money. You're going to have long, like you should be able to optimize for that. You don't need to necessarily optimize for engagement. And they'll be good for society too.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Dorsey kind of talks about it as a vision for Twitter is how do we increase the health of conversations. I don't know how seriously they're actually trying to do that though. Which is one of the reasons I am in part considering entering that space a little bit.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not a constitutional, like. So, you have the right for free speech, but like, just don't be an asshole. Like, you can't really put that in the Constitution. The Supreme Court can't be like, just don't be a dick. But I feel like platforms have a role to be like, just be nicer. Maybe do the carrot, like encourage people to be nicer as opposed to the stick of censorship. But I think it's an interesting machine learning problem. Just be nicer.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I tend to believe in the intelligence of people, and we should trust them. But I also do think it's the responsibility of platforms to encourage more love in the world, more kindness to each other, and I don't always think that they're great at doing that particular thing. So There's a nice balance there, and I think philosophically I think about that a lot, where's the balance between free speech? Encouraging people, even though they have the freedom of speech to not be an asshole.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He asked Jack Dorsey, How can you not ban Donald Trump from Twitter? And so, you know, you have that conversation. You have a conversation where some number, some significant number of people think that the current president of the United States should not be on your platform. And it's like, okay, so if that's even on the table as a conversation, then everything's on the table for conversation. And yeah, it's stuff. I'm not sure where I land on it. I'm with you. I think that censorship is bad. But I also think the ultimate.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And then, you know, of course, everybody, you know, there's some people that call our current president a Nazi, and then there's like, so you start getting a Sim Harris. I don't know if you know that is. In my opinion, his conversation with Jack Dorsey. I spoke with Jack before on this podcast and we'll talk again. But Sam brought up, Sam Harris does not like Donald Trump.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They don't care. And especially with somebody like Joe Rogan, who YouTube sees Joe Rogan not as a person who might revolutionize the nature of news and idea space and nuanced conversations, they seem as a potential person who has racist guests on or like, you know, they see him as like a headache potentially. So, you know, a lot of people talk about this. It's a hard place to be for YouTube, actually. Figuring out would the search and discovery process of how do you filter out conspiracy theories and which conspiracy theories represent dangerous untruths and which conspiracy theories are like vanilla untruths and then even when you start having meetings and discussions about what is true or not Starts getting weird”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“YouTube generally, no matter how big the creator, maybe for PewDiePie, something like that, they want you to succeed. But for the most part, from all the big creators I've spoken with Veritassium, all those folks, you know, they get some basic assistance, but it's not like. YouTube doesn't care if you succeed or not. They have so many creators”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The open source spirit, it just doesn't seem right, doesn't feel right. That said, you know, because so many people care about Joe Rogan's program, they're going to hold Spotify's feet to the fire. Like one of the cool things what Joe told me is the reason he likes working with Spotify is that They're like ride or die together, right? So they want him to succeed. So that's why they're not actually telling him what to do despite what people think. They don't give him any notes on anything. They want him to succeed. And that's the cool thing about exclusivity with a platform is kind of one each other to succeed. And that process can actually be very fruitful. Like YouTube, it goes back to my criticism.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“All in Spotify. For now, you can until December 1st. In December 1st, everything disappears in Spotify only. And Spotify gave him a hundred million dollars for that. So it's an interesting deal, but I did some soul searching I'm glad he's doing it, but if Spotify came to me with $100 million, Wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it. Well, I have a very different relationship with money. I hate money, but I just think I believe in the pirate radio aspect of podcasting, the freedom. That there's something about this.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, somebody, so I have somebody who works with me, works with helps with advertising, Matt is awesome guy. He mentioned Bus Broughton Me, but he says it's really annoying because they want exclusive, they want to host the podcast. Is the problem with Spotify too? This is where I'd like to say F Spotify. There's a magic to RSS with podcasts. It can be made available to everyone. And then there's this ecosystem of different podcast players that emerge and they compete freely. And that's a beautiful thing. That's why going exclusive. Like Joe Rogan won exclusive. I'm not sure if you're familiar with. He went to Spotify. A huge fan of Joe Rogan. I've been kind of nervous about the whole thing, but let's see. I hope that Spotify steps out. They've added video, which was very surprising that they were...”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“themselves. Something about podcasts like the audio that makes it difficult to jump to a spot and to look for that particular information. I think some of it, you know, I'm interested in creating Like myself experimenting with stuff, so taking reven, creating a transcript, and then people can go to it. I do dream that I'm not in the loop anymore, that Spotify does it, right? Automatically for everybody because ultimately that one click purchase needs to be there like”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They were somewhat accurate. They didn't say loves Hitler. They said, um, Thinks that if Hitler came back to life, we should forgive him. It's kind of accurate-ish, but the headline made it sound a lot worse than it was, but I'm fine with it. That's the way the world. I want to almost make it easier for those journalists and make it easier for people who actually care about the conversation to go and look and see.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And we were talking about forgiveness, and we were bringing that up as the worst case possible thing is even, you know, for people who are Holocaust survivors, one of the ways to let go of the suffering they've been through is to forgive. And he brought up Hitler as somebody that would potentially be the hardest thing to possibly forgive, but it might be a worthwhile pursuit psychologically, so on, blah, blah, blah. It doesn't matter. It was very eloquent, very powerful words. I think people should go back and listen to it. And then all these journalists, all these articles written about like MMA, UFC fight.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm actually trying Trying to figure out, I'll probably on the website create Like a place where the transcript goes, like as a web page so that people can reference it, like reporters can reference and so on. I mean, most of the reporters probably want to write clickbait articles that are complete falsifying, which I'm fine with. It's the way of journalism. I don't care. I've had this conversation with a friend of mine, a mixed martial artist, Ryan Hall, and we talked about, as I've been reading the rise and fall of the Third Reich and a bunch of books on Hitler, and we brought up Hitler and he made some kind of comment where like we should be able to forgive Hitler.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's clear that they want to analyze conversations. So many people wrote to me about a transcript for Yosha Bach conversation. Just a bunch of conversations. And then on the Elon Musk side, like reporters want like they want to write a blog post about your conversation. So they want to be able to pull stuff. And it's like they're essentially doing on your conversation transcription privately. They're doing it for yeah. themselves and then starting to pick but it's so much easier when you can actually do it as a reporter just look at the transcript”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, that's one of the things that I wanted to. I mean, one of the reasons we're talking today is I wanted to take this quite seriously, the rep thing. I've just been lazy. So because I'm very fortunate that a lot of people support this podcast, that there's enough money now to do transcription and so on. It seemed clear to me, especially like CEOs and sort of like PhDs, like people. Write to me who are like graduate students in computer science or graduate students of whatever the heck field, it's clear that their mind, like they enjoy podcasts when they're doing laundry or whatever, but they want to revisit the conversation in a much more rigorous way. And they really want a transcript.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You just kind of follow what they're doing, but the search and discovery wasn't a big part of YouTube like in the early days. But that's what currently with podcasts, like is the search and discovery is non-existent. You're basically searching for the dumbest possible thing, which is keywords in the titles of episodes.”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“With Zoom and so on. That's fascinating to think about. I mean, for me, I care about podcasts, right? One of the things that was I'm torn. I know a lot of the engineers at Spotify. So I love them very much because they dream big in terms of they want to empower creators. So one of my hopes was with Spotify that they would use the technology like Rev or something like that to start converting everything into text and make it indexable. That sucks with podcasts, it's hard to find stuff, like the model is basically subscription. Like you find it's similar to what YouTube used to be like, which is you basically find a creator that you enjoy and you subscribe to them and like you just”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So that might change completely. It's like everything that's said, converted to text might change completely the dynamics of what we do in this world, especially now with remote work, right?”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, Elon Moss does that similar kind of thing with Tesla, which is really interesting. There's another lesson in leadership in that is to be obsessed with the details. And he talks to the lowest level engineers. Okay, so we're talking about ASR and So, this is basically where I was saying we're going to take this ultra seriously and then what's the mission to try to keep pushing towards the 3%?”
2021-01-04 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #151 – Dan Kokotov: Speech Recognition with AI and Humans · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source