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“Ah, Stevan Mars. Well, I'm going to do everything I can to make sure it happens in the 2030s. Say mid 20 mid 2025, 2035, we'll be on the moon. And hopefully, with more people than us, but first, with a few astronauts, it'll be global, international folks. But we really need those 10 years, I think, on the moon. And then so by later in the decade in the 2030s, you'll have all the technology and know-how, and we need to get that human mission to Mars done.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Probably visiting and living if you want to. Most people are going to want to come back to Earth, I think. But there'll be some people. And it's not such a long, it's a good view. It's a beautiful view. So, I think that we will have many people on the moon as well. I think there'll be some people, you told me, wow, hundreds of years out. So we'll have people, we'll be interplanetary for sure as a species. So I think we'll be on the moon. I think we'll be on Mars. No, Venus, no, it's already a runaway. And going on those journeys, but it's really our choice in terms of our decisions of how imbalanced, you know, we're going to be living here on the earth.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm optimistic, so I think that we'll have lots of people, thousands of people, tens of thousands of people. Who knows, maybe millions in low Earth orbit. That's just a place that we're going to have people and actually some industry manufacturing, things like that. That dream, I hope we realize getting people to the moon so I can envision a lot of people on the moon. Again, it's a great place to go.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Absolutely, we can survive. I don't think Mars is option B, actually. So I think it's all about saving spaceship Earth and humanity. Simply put, you know, Earth doesn't need us, but we really need Earth. All of humanity needs to live in balance with Earth because Earth has been here a long time before we ever showed up and it'll be here a long time after. It's just a matter of how do we want to live with all living beings much more in balance because we need to take care of the earth. And right now we're not. So that's the urgency. And I think it is the next decade to try to live much more sustainably, live more in balance with Earth. I think the human species has a great, long, optimistic future, but we have to act. It's urgent. We have to change behavior. We have to realize that we're all in this together. It's just one blue bubble. It's for humanity. So when people realize that we're all astronauts, that's the great news is everyone's been astronaut.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Was the satellite imagery of Earth of the future? If you can hold that in your hands, that's going to be really powerful. Will that help people accelerate positive change for Earth and for us to live in balance with Earth? I hope so. And kind of start with the ocean system. So oceans to land to air and kind of using all the space data. So it's a huge role for artificial intelligence to help us analyze. I call it curating the data, using the data. It has a lot to visualizations as well.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But I think we're going to get, we are right now just on Earth based systems, you know, AI systems that are incredibly capable and training them with all the data that we have now, petabyta data from Earth. What I care about for the autonomy and AI right now, how we're applying it in research is to look at Earth and look at climate systems. I mean, that's not for Mars to me today. Right now, AI is to eyes on Earth. All of our space data compiling that using supercomputers because we have so much information and knowledge and we need to get that into people's hands. First, there's educational issue with climate and our changing climate. Then we need to change human behavior. That's the biggie. So this next decade, it's urgent. We take care of our own spaceship, which is spaceship Earth. So that's to me where my focus has been for AI systems, using whatever is out there, kind of imagining also what the future situation is.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's interesting. It depends. I mean, they're going to be designed by humans. I think, as you mentioned, humans are always in the loop. I mean, we might be on Earth, we might be in orbit on Mars. Maybe the systems that landers down on the surface of Mars.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's just no way you're going to control. So fully autonomous. So people have to be fully autonomous as well, but all of our systems as well. And so that's the big design challenge. So that's why we test them out on the moon as well. When we have a, okay, a few seconds, you know, three second time lag, you can test them out. We have to really get autonomous exploration down. You asked me earlier about Magellan. Magellan and his crew, they left, right? They were autonomous. They were autonomous. They left and they were on their own to figure out that mission. Then when they hit land, they have resources, SINSI resource utilization, and everything else they brought with them. So we have to, I think, have that mindset for exploration. Again, back to the moon. It's more the testing ground, the proving ground with technologies. But when we get to Mars, it's so far away that we need fully autonomous systems. So I think that's where, again, AI and autonomy come in really robust autonomy. Things that we don't have today yet. So they're on the drawing boards, but we really need to test them out because that's what.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think our artificial intelligence will be smarter in the future for a Mars mission. It's a great question. The reality is for a Mars mission, we need fully autonomous systems. We will get humans, but they have to be fully autonomous. And that's a really important, that's the most important concept because there's not going to be a mission control on Earth, 20 minute.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, you always need a life of support system, pressurized habitat. And I like to say we're not going to Mars to sit around. So you need a suit. Even if you land and have the land or you're not going there to stay inside, that's her darn share. We're going there to search for the evidence of life. That's why we're going to Mars. So you need a lot of mobility. So for me, the suit is the best way to give the human mobility. We're always still going to need rovers. We're going to need robots. So for me, exploration is always a suite of explorers. Some people are going to, some of the suite of explorers are humans, but many are going to be robots, smart systems, things like that. But I look at it as kind of all those capabilities together, make the best exploration team.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So we really have to pay attention to all those things. And so that's the design team that we work with. And my partner, Guitrotti, you know, we're partners in this in terms of, he comes from an architecture industrial design background. So bringing those skills to bear as well. We team up with industry folks who are in athletic performance and designers. So it really is a team that brings all those skills together.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, absolutely, because the teams that we work with, of course, I'm an engineer, there's engineering students, there's design students, there's architects. So it really is a very much a multidisciplinary team. So sure, colors, aesthetics, materials, all those things we pay attention to. So it's not just an engineering solution. It really is a much more holistic. It's a suit. It's a suit. You're dressed in a suit now, form fitting.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So it will have augmented reality. It'll have all the information you need. Should have the maps that I need. I'm on the moon. Okay, well, hey, smart helmet, then show me the map, show me the topography. Hopefully it has the lab embedded too. If it has really great cameras, maybe I can see with that reglet, that's just lunar dust and dirt. What's that made out of? We talked about the water. So the helmet then really becomes this information portal is how I see kind of the IT architecture of the helmet is really allowing me to use all of my modalities of an explorer that I'd like to. So cameras, voiceover, images, if it were really good, it would kind of be, it would have lab capabilities as well.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Nitrogens into put a suit if we put someone to a third of an atmosphere. So for mechanical counterpressure now, so one way is to do it with a balloon. And that's what we currently have. Or you can apply the pressure directly to the skin. I only have to give you a third of an atmosphere. Right now, you and I are very happy in one atmosphere. So if I put that pressure a third of an atmosphere on you, I just have to do it consistently across all of your body and your limbs. And it'll be a gas pressurized helmet doesn't make sense to shrink wrap the head. Seen the blue man group? That's a great act. But we don't need to, there's no benefits of shrink wrapping the head. You put gas pressureized helmet because the helmet then, the future of suture, you asked me about the helmet just becomes your information portal.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Alive and happy. Alive and happy. And you mix the gases. Here we're having this chat and we're both at one C level in Boston at one atmosphere.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's a gas pressurized suit. So put someone in a balloon. It's only a third of an atmosphere to keep someone alive. So that's what the current system is. So depending on what units you think in 30 kilopascals, you know, 4.3 pounds per square inch.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The challenge. It's a big design challenge. We've been working on it for a while. So you can either put someone in a balloon. That's one way to do it. That's conventional. That's the only thing we've done.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So rather than a gas pressurized shrinking, that space. Craft around the person say here's how humans perform. Can I design a spacesuit literally from the skin out? And that's what we've come up with, mechanical counterpressure, some patterning. And that way it could be order of magnitude less in terms of the mass and it should provide maximum mobility for moon or Mars.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Communications, exactly. So you really thermal control, a little bit of radiation, not so much radiation protection, but thermal control, humidity, you know, oxygen debris, so all those life support systems, as well as the pressure production. So it's an engineering marvel, you know, the spacesuits that have flown because they really are entire spacecraft, not a small spacecraft that we have around a person, but they're very massive, but 140 kilos the current suit, and they're not mobility suits. So since we're going back to the moon and Mars, we need a planetary suit. We need a mobility suit. So that's where we've kind of flipped the design paradigm. I study astronauts, I study humans in motion. And if we can map that motion, I want to give you a full flexibility, you know, move your arms and legs. I really want you to be like an Olympic athlete, an extreme explorer. I don't want to waste any of your energy. So we take it from the human design. So I take a look at humans. We measure them. We model them. And then I say, okay, can I put a spacesuit on them that goes from the skin out?”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So start from the beginning. A spacesuit is the world's smallest spacecraft. So I really, that's the best definition I can give Right now, we fly gas pressurized suits. But think of developing and designing an entire spacecraft. So then you take all those systems and you shrink them around a person, provide them with oxygen to breathe, scrub out their carbon dioxide, make sure they have pressure. They need a pressure environment to live in. So really the spacesuit is a shrunken spacecraft in its entirety has all the same systems.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, if I have anything to say about it, it'll be a very tight fitting suit. We use mechanical counter pressure to pressurize right directly on the skin. Seems that it's technically feasible. We're still at the research and development stage. We don't have a flight system. But technically is feasible, so we do a lot of work in the materials, you know, what materials do we need to pressurize someone? What's the patterning we need? That's what our patents are in, the patterning, kind of how we apply this. It's a third of an atmosphere.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's just wonderful. So every time, like I say, every time I see The reusability and the rockets coming back and landing so precisely is really exciting. So it is actually, that's a game changer. We are in a new era of lower cost and the higher frequency. And it's the world, not just NASA, it's many nations are really upping their frequency of launches.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, the reusability you had the reusability is awesome. I mean, it's just the best. Now, we have to remember the shuttle was a reusable vehicle. And the shuttle is an amazing aerospace engineer. You know what I mean? The shuttle is still the most gorgeous, elegant, extraordinary design of a space vehicle. It was reusable. It just wasn't affordable. But the reusability of it was really critical because we flew it up. It did come back. So the notion of reusability, I think absolutely now what we're doing with we know the global we but with spacex and origin Setting the rockets up recovering the first stages where if they can regain 70% cost savings that's huge and just seeing the control you know the control and dynamics person is just seeing that rocket come back and land”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, right now there's, again, back to private industry planet, the company is flying CubeSats and literally looking down on Earth and orbiting Earth, taking a picture, if you will, of Earth every day, every 24 hours covering the entire Earth. So in terms of Earth observation, in terms of climate change, in terms of our changing Earth, it's revolutionizing because they're affordable. We can put a whole bunch of them up. Telecoms, we're all on our cell phones and we have GPS, we have our telecoms, but those used to be very expensive satellites providing that service. Now we can fly a whole bunch of modular cube sets. So it really is breakthrough in terms of modularity as well as cost reduction.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“CubeSat is a, this is called One You. CubeSats we measure in terms of units. So, you know, just in terms of I put both my hands together, that's one unit, two unit streets. So little small satellites, so CubeSats are for small satellites. And we actually go by mass as well. You know, small satellite might be 100 kilos, 200 kilos, well under 1,000 kilos. Cube satsats then are the next thing down from small sats, you know, basically kilos, tens of kilos, things like that. kind of the building blocks cube sats are fantastic design because kind of So, I can take a one unit of CubeSat. And what if I have a little bit more money and payload? I can fly three of them and just basically put a lot more instruments on it. But essentially think about something the size of a shoebox, if you will. That would be a CubeSat.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I love that. You know, so you can kind of break open the culture, say no, look at Apollo, that was a huge risk. It was done well. So there's always a culture of safety, quality assurance, you know, engineering at its best. But on the other hand, you want to get things done. And you have to also get them. You have to bring the cost down for when it comes to launch. We really have to bring the cost down and get the frequency up. And so that's what the newcomers are doing. They're really pushing that. So it's about the most exciting time I can imagine for spaceflight, again, a little bit, it really is the democratization of spaceflight, opening it up, not just because the launch capability, but the science we can do on a CubeSat, what you can do now for very, those used to be, you know, student projects that we would go through, conceive, design, implement, and think about what a small satellite would be. Now they're the most, you know, these are really advanced instruments, science instruments that are flying on little teeny cube sets that pretty much anyone can afford. So there's not a, there's every nation.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Absolutely. And the best scenario is both of working together because there's really important lessons learned, especially when you talk about human spaceflight, safety, quality assurance. These things are the utmost importance for both aviation and space, you know, when human lives are at stake. On the other hand, government agencies, NASA can be European Space Agency, you name it. They become very bureaucratic, pretty risk-averse, move pretty slowly. So I think the best is when you combine the partnerships from both sides. industry necessarily has to push the government, take some more risk. There's smart risk or actually gave an award at NASA for failing smart.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They're great. Remember that the investments in SpaceX is government funding, it's NASA funding, it's U.S. Air Force funding, just as it should be, because they're betting on a company who is moving fast, has some new technology development. So I love it. So when I was an asset, it really was under our public-private partnerships. So necessarily, the government needs to fund these startups. Now SpaceX is no longer a startup, but it's been at it for 10 years. It's had some accidents, learned a lot of lessons, but it's great because it's the way you move faster. And also some private industry folks and private businesses will take a lot more risk. That's also really important for the government.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Is an extreme mission exactly great for exploration but doable. But again, before Apollo, we didn't think getting humans. The moon was even possible, so we kind of made that possible, but we need to go back. We absolutely need to go back. We're investing in the heavy lift launch capabilities that we need to get there. We haven't had that, you know, since the apologies, since Saturn V. So now we have three options on the board. That's what's so fantastic. NASA has its space launch system. SpaceX is going to have its heavy capability. And Blue Origin is coming along too with heavy lifts. That's pretty fantastic from where I sit. I'm the Apollo program professor. Today I have zero heavy lift launch capability. I can't wait just in a few years. We'll have three different heavy lift launch capabilities. So that's pretty exciting.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think it'd be good to go to the moon. I'd give that a shot My life's work to get the next generation to Mars. That's you or even younger than you, you know, my students' generation. Be the Martian explorers. I'm just working to facilitate that, but that's not going to be me.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“People explorers. I mean, yeah, astronauts are going to be Civilians in the future, not all astronauts are going to be government astronauts. Actually, when I was at NASA, we changed, we actually got the law changed to recognize astronauts that are not only government employees, you know, NASA astronauts or European Space Agency astronauts or Russian space agency that astronauts, because of the big push we put in the private sector that astronauts essentially are going to be astronauts, you get over 100 kilometers up. I think once you've done orbital flight. Then you're an astronaut. So, a lot of private citizens are going to become astronauts”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Absolutely Absolutely. And people are going to love to, you know, you get to the moon, you get to, you have a beautiful earth rise. I mean, you have the most magnificent view of Earth being off planet. So it just makes sense. I think we're going to have thousands, lots of people, hopefully tens of thousands in low Earth orbit because low Earth orbit is a beautiful place to go and look down on the Earth. But people want to return home. Think the lunar explorers will also want to do round trips and be on the moon three-day trip, explore, do science also because the lunar day is 14 days and the lunar nights also 14 days. So in that 28 day cycle, half of it is in light, half of it's in dark. So, people would probably want to do a couple week trips, month long trips, not longer than that.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Call them lunar volatiles. You know, what is that ice on the moon? How much of it is there? What are the resources look like? To me, that helps us. That's just the next step in getting humans to Mars.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, so ISRU for the moon will go to the South Pole, and it's fascinating. We have images of it. Of course, we know there's permanently shaded areas and by Shackleton Crater. And there's areas that are permanently in the sun. Well, it seems that there's a lot of water ice, water that's trapped in ice and the lunar craters. That's the first place you go. Why? Because it's water. And when you want to try to, it could be fuel, you know, life support system. So you kind of, again, you go where the water is. And so when the moon is kind of for resources, utilization, but to learn how to, can we make the fuels out of the resources that are on the moon? We have to think about 3D printing, right? You don't get to bring all this mass with you. You have to learn how to literally live off the land. We need to pressure shell. We need to have an atmosphere for people to live in. So all of that is going to bind down the technology, doing the investigation, doing the science. What are the basic”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I look at all of that investment for moon exploration to the ultimate goal, you know, the horizon goals, we call it, to get people to Mars. But we just don't go to Mars tomorrow, right? We really need a decade on the moon, I think, investing in the technologies, learning, making sure the astronauts are their health, you know, they're safe and well, and also learning so much about in-situ research utilization, ISRU, in situ utilization is huge when it comes to exploration for the moon and Mars. We need a testbed. And to me, it really is a lunar testbed. And then we use those same investments to think about getting people to Mars in the 2030s.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I love the moon program now, Artemis. It is definitely, we've been in lower Earth orbit. I love lower Earth orbit too, but I just always look at it as three phases. So lower Earth orbit, where we've been 40 years. So definitely time to get back to deep space, time to get to the moon. There's so much to do on the moon. I hope we don't get stuck on the moon for 50 years. I really want to get to the moon, spend the next decade, first with lander, then humans. There's just a lot to explore. To me, it's a big technology push. It's only three days away. So the moon is definitely the right place. So we kind of buy down our technology we invest in specifically habitats, life support systems. We need suits. We really need to understand really how to live off planet. We've been off planet in lower Earth orbit, but still, that's only 400 kilometers up, 250 miles, right? So we get to the moon. It really is a great proving ground for the technologies. And now we're in deep space. Radiation becomes a huge issue, again, to keep our astronauts well alive.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Exactly. I mean, we are always learning, so we definitely don't know all the physics that exist, too, but we still have to, he's not science fiction. You know, we still have to pay attention to physics in terms of our speed of travel for spaceflight.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, it's a good question. Right now, because, again, speed of light is a limit. We don't have warp speed warp drive to explore our solar system to get to Mars, to explore all the planets, then we need a technology push, but technology push here is just advanced propulsion. It'd be great if I could get humans to Mars and say, you know, three to four months, not eight months. I mean, have the time, 50% reduction. That's great in terms of safety and wellness of the crew, orbital mechanics, but physics rules, you know, orbital mechanics is still there. Physics rules, we can't defy physics.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, what's out there? But I just can't think that we're not the only one. So, absolutely, life in the universe, probably intelligent life as well.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Hope so. We haven't met yet. It's just so far. I mean, do physics display a role here. Look at all these exoplanets 6,000 exoplanets. I mean, even the couple dozen Earth-like planets that are exoplanets that really look like habitable planets. These are very Earth-like. They look like they have all the building blocks. I can't wait to get there. The only thing is they're 10 to 100 light years away. So scientifically, we know they're there. We know that they're habitable. you know, everything going from them, right? you know, call them the Goldilock zone not too hot, not too cold, just perfect for habitability for life. But now the reality is if they're 10 at the best to 100 to thousands of light years away.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I hope so. I mean, that's the hope, but we don't have the scientific evidence for that now. I think all the evidence we have in terms of life existing is much more compelling, again, because we have the building blocks of life. Now, when that life turns into intelligence, that's a big unknown.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I remember that humans, we're kind of, you know, we're host, right? We're host to all of our bacteria and viruses, right?”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Of the wonderful explorers and sailors of the past, which kind of are lots of my inspiration for exploration Mars is a different ballgame. I mean, it's eight months to get there. Year and a half to get home. I mean, it's really extreme.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Probably teams. I mean, we've been at it on Mars in particular 50 years. We've been exploring Mars for 50 years. Great data, right? Our images of Mars today are phenomenal. Now we know how Mars lost its atmosphere, starting to know because of the lack of the electromagnetic shield. We know about the water in Mars. So we've been studying 50 years with our robots. We still haven't found it. So I think once we have a human mission there, we just accelerate things. It's always humans and our rovers and robots together, but we just have to think that 50 years we've been looking at Mars and taking images and doing the best science that we can. People need to realize Mars is really far away. It's really hard to get to. This is extreme, extreme exploration. We mentioned Magellan first.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Currently? That's again, we need the next decade, but the evidence is mounting for sure. We do have the organics. We're finding organics, we have water, seasonal water on Mars. We used to just know about the ice caps, you know, north and south pole. Now we have seasonal water. We do have the building blocks for life on Mars. We really need to dig down into the soil because everything on the top surface is radiated. But once we find out, will we see any lifeforms? Will we see any bugs? I leave it open as a possibility, but I feel pretty certain that past life or fossilized lifeforms will find. And then we have to get to all these ocean worlds, these beautiful moons of other planets, since we know they have water and we're looking for, some simple search for life follow the water, you know, carbon-based life. That's the only life we know. There could be other life forms that we don't know about, but it's hard to search for them because we don't know. So in our search for life in the solar system, it's definitely, you know, search.”
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“I'm more comfortable saying probably 3.5 billion years ago feel pretty confident there was life on Mars just because then it had an electromagnetic shield it had an atmosphere has wonderful gravity level 3HG is fantastic you know you're all super human human we can all slam dunken basketball and it's going to be fun to play sports on Mars but so I think we'll find past fossilized probably the evidence of past life on Mars”
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“I mean, I searched my researches in mission worlds, and when will we find life? I think actually probably the next decade, we find probably past life, probably the evidence of past life on Mars, let's say.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I love the perspective. I love that perspective. I always open my public talks with a big Hubble Space Telescope. I mentioned looking out until you mentioned just now the solar system, the Milky Way. Because I really, I think it's really important to know that we're just a small pale blue dot. We're really fortunate. We're on the best planet by far. Life is fantastic here.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Of course, it opened it up before we saw Man on the Moon. It wasn't obvious to me at all, but once we understood that, yes, absolutely astronauts, that's what they do. They explore. They go into space and they land on other planets or moons.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Doing something that just seemed impossible, seemed impossible a decade earlier, even a year earlier. But the Apollo program really inspired me. And then I think it actually just taught me to dream, to any impossible mission could be possible with enough focus. And I'm sure you need some luck, but you definitely need the leadership. You need the focus of the mission. So since an early age, I thought, of course, people should be interplanetary. Of course, people, we need people on Earth and we're going to have people exploring space as well.”
2019-11-22 · Lex Fridman Podcast · Dava Newman: Space Exploration, Space Suits, and Life on Mars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source