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  1. “And I have told this story, but hey, on the day of England, Scotland at Euro 96, after the song had already come out and done quite well, got to number one, all very exciting, but we thought that its time had come and gone. And England weren't playing very well in that tournament. They'd lost or drawn to Switzerland in the first round, first game. And then they fled to Scotland. They weren't playing very well. In the second half. In the second half, Gary McAster missed the penalty. Seaman pumped the ball upfield. Gaza School, one of the greatest goals ever scored. The sun came out. And a man who I really owe an enormous debt to, and I don't know the name of, the DJ at Wembley put three lions on as they came off the pitch. And here's the thing, the whole crowd, apart from the Scottish fans, started singing the song. At a point in time where there was no lyrics on screens, we didn't know everyone had taken the song to their heart. We had no idea, me and Frank. 80,000 people just start singing every line, not just the chorus, every line of the song.”

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  2. “Were asked by Ian Brody to provide the lyrics to that song. We sat around and talked for a bit. And what we said was, let's try and write a song about what it's really like being an England fan. And we didn't know, but”

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  3. “No, that's a bit crazy. That's the case with everything. But I mean, to be fair about me, I only write things that I feel quite deeply. I've never really written anything or done anything that doesn't engage me in a very deep level. And when me and Frank.”

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  4. “Good. Good. I mean, I think one of the things that's good is that you come from a football fandom that isn't just about winning everything. And most people, that's most people's experience, right? But it's sort of... England's experience. I mean, England's experience is maybe more about really thinking we're going to do well. And that's partly to do with the songs because the songs were all this time more than any other time. You know, they were all about winning. Did you sing when you weren't winning? And then what happened was we wrote three lions and people now talk about it, as you say, as like, oh, football's coming home as if it's a song of triumphalism. It's not.”

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  5. “Interesting thing about that as a question is that, of course, football's coming home with three lions is primarily a song about losing. That's what it is. The reason that it chimed such a large chord with England football fans is it was the first England song about the real experience, perhaps the real experience of all football fans, except if you're a Manchester City fan now, which is that most time you lose. And what you do is you go to football magically thinking, well, maybe this time we're going to win, even though most of the time we don't, certainly as an England fan.”

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  6. “Yeah, my dad, I don't know if my dad was depressed, but I came from a difficult in a way background. Not really a glass half full person, I wouldn't say that, but I am very happy with who I am, which is a different thing to being happy.”

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  7. “I don't really know the abs answer to it. I do think, to come back to what I was talking about, that it will have a little bit to do with the inherited trauma. My grandfather was in and out of mental hospital. My mother was definitely, you know, had lots of issues.”

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  8. “That before you, that's why I didn't say I was happy because I've had clinical depression and I know what it's like to be clinically depressed and I still feel it from time to time.”

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  9. “Happy isn't quite the right word. I am, in my opinion, incredibly comfortable in my own skin. I kind of think I always have been, but I think as a result of that, all the destabilization that happens with fame and my mistaken identity, and I've seen it happen to other people, it kind of couldn't happen to me because I have nowhere else to go. But me.”

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  10. “Yeah, I think that I always think that people who complain about being famous, unless it's really ruined their lives, it totally hasn't, really ruined my life, are sound churlish because, you know, I am, as a result of, not a sort of fame, but as a result of what I do, of which fame is a part, able to write books and tell jokes and make documentaries for a living, which really is better than working for Amazon. You know, it really is. And so anyone pretending, anyone who writes songs or whatever about how terrible.”

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  11. “I got the feeling that you really. No, I don't anymore. I think that'll be true of me a few years ago. But actually, what I realized was that the whole treating them like heckler's thing is impossible because normally if you're in a room and you've got a heckler in an audience of 800 people, it's one person and they shut up soon after you've taken them down, right? But that doesn't happen on social media. It's thousands and thousands. And yeah, they take your stuff out of context. And it becomes maddening and impossible. And so latterly, I've completely changed my opinion about it. Having said publicly, oh yeah, you should treat them like hecklers and you should make them funny or whatever. I now don't use it as an engagement platform. I do very occasionally, but most of the time I say something and don't check responses now.”

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  12. “It's interesting that because the key element I always say with hecklers. I don't look at the stuff is don't get angry. If anything, agree with them and then take them out. I don't”

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  13. “Well, the trolls thing was about, I think from something very specific, actually, which is that when I first started dealing with trolls on social media, I thought they were hecklers. And as a comedian, I thought, I can't ignore these. I can't not feed the trolls. I've got to try and make it funny. That's they're abusing me from the dark. And so I need to make it funny. And I would do that. And I made a show out of it, really. But it was also a show about... What does it mean, this level of abuse that's just in public?”

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  14. “But the fame thing was about that. It's about how there's a version of you out there that is not you, and that's destabilizing, but it's also kind of funny.”

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  15. “Nick I once got a free meal in a restaurant in Swansea because someone thought I was Steve Wright, which I really don't like the DJ.”

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  16. “The fame one was about how, and you'll both know this personal to me in a way because I spent a lot of my time trying to project a version of myself that I feel is authentic because I don't like to be inauthentic. I'm not very good at playing someone who is not me. But as you'll know, Erica Young said, the more famous you are, the more people will get you wrong. So what fame involves is mistaken identity, literally, in my case, where people mistake Ian Brody if the lightning exceeds or Ben Elton or whoever it might be for me tell a quick story about how Roland Keating of Boysone came up to me once and said, I love your I was so pleased. I love your work. Everything you do is brilliant. What I particularly like was black adder. And I said, I'm not Ben Elton. And he looked really pissed off. Like I was deliberately trying to trick him with my face.”

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  17. “I don't know. My comedy now tends to be very, very, so I take one subject. So my last three standard shows, I've taken one subject. Fame was the first one. Then my family, and lastly, trolls, and tries to, well, actually it is, yeah, because it tries to dig into what's going on here. The family one was just very personal.”

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  18. “There is, but I think with books, well, someone said, which is not exactly answered your question, but it might have adjacently answered your question, is a Jewish academic who's read that book, and God Design, which is my new book, and Jews O'Cout said that I have a Talmudic way of looking at these questions. And if anyone's read the Talmud, which I haven't, but what I have a sense of the Talmud is that it's very, very digging into the deep logical questions of life. And I do, I think, do that in these books. I have a very, very like what is actually happening under the skin of these quite complicated questions. And what I do include in both these books, The God Desire and Jews, is jokes. So, I also have, I see no reason why if you're doing some quite hefty intellectual, rigorous work, you shouldn't put gags in.”

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  19. “Yeah, I could have been there. My grandma, the one who was from Germany, Wanted nothing more than for me to be Dr. Badil and to have a PhD. And even though she was still alive when I first was on the telly, she was not happy about it. She was just pissed off.”

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  20. “My big idea was about that I believe that the way that women were represented by a lot of the big male writers in the 19th century shows an inability to imagine women as actually kind of like sort of sexual being. So the only version to women that were allowed in the 19th century by Dickens and people like that tended to be sort of idealized little girls, creepy idealized little girls or very maternal wife mother figures. So for example in Dombey and Son, Florence Dombey is a tiny little girl for most of the book, sort of angelic like little Nell. Then she goes to China in the middle of the book to completely erase any actual sexual growth on her part and comes back with three children.”

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  21. “I did a long time ago. I mean, to be honest with you, even though I think that was a good piece of work in its own way, I did it mainly because I had no money when I left university and I needed to get some money. And back then you could get a grant to do a PhD, which allowed me to do comedy at the same time.”

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  22. “It did not cross my mind that no, because apart from anything Pigs are not kosher, right? That is not. Pigs are actually not an example used much as far as I'm aware in tropes about Jews. Jews are more, the truth about Jews, the anti Semitic trips are more about vermin or about huge fat capitalists controlling the world. Pigs is actually not used very much as a trope around Jews”

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  23. “That makes quite a big difference because Michael Howard is. What you might call properly Jewish. I mean, this is the trouble to some extent with. Anti-Semitism is that someone said to me about this book, a progressive person said on Twitter about Jews don't count, oh, I think I'm a progressive person, but I actually realize I share some of these assumptions. And I realize now that anti-Semitism is the racism that sneaks past you. And my book is to some extent a primer to spot these things because it is quite an elusive thing. And I personally as a Jew think that when Anne Whittakam said that Michael Howard has something of the night about him, that there is an anti-Semitism there. I don't think she's aware of it. I think that is an unconscious, that's a good example of unconscious bi”

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  24. “I don't think when he came up to me and said. And the fact that was famous due to another, I think we reason is relevant.”

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  25. “And I said, I don't know. You'll have to ask Tom Bradbury. And he said, well, I just want to say, if we're going to talk about the yid thing, you're right. I've spoken to Lord Feldman, and he says Badil's right about this. And I'm just going to say you're right. And what I took from that is not that he'd listened to Lord Feldman, a Jew, but that he would not, I think, in 2015, have gone up to a person of colour and used any of the hate words about a person of colour, even while saying you're right. He wouldn't have done that. And the reason he wouldn't have done that is that Jewish hate speech is not as hateful. It's seen as not as hateful or as bad. Because Jews don't count, but more importantly, Jews are not seen as a vulnerable minority.”

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  26. “Cameron was on it, and he was the Prime Minister, so he comes in, he bustles into the green room, he comes straight over to me and he says, again, with no compunction, I'm a Jew, with no compunction. Are we going to talk about the yid thing?”

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  27. “I say in the book that if you want to believe, because a lot of people question this idea of the hierarchy of racism, but if you want to sort of prove it in an a priori way, Alistair is right. No one here, no one in this room would use the n-word and the p word, which is a good thing, but I can say the word yid. I am Jewish, but I reckon either of you could say it and it would not be the end of your career. It would definitely not be the end of your careers. And I'll prove why. I'll prove why. I mean, obviously this was a little while ago, but not that long ago. When I first started talking about this, it became a bit of an issue. A lot of people disagreed. They started saying that spurs fans should be allowed to say it and blah, blah, blah. And in 2014, I think it was, David Cameron was, I think, asked by a journalist who doorstepped him at number 10 from the Jewish Chronicle what he thought about that. And he said, I think Spurs fans should be allowed to call themselves yids. I think it's fine for Spurs fans to call themselves Yids. Then there was a funny incident where I was on the agenda, which you may remember, Tom Brown.”

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  28. “Didn't hear it. They don't even recognize it as racism. And then we did a film about it called The Y word, but that was difficult to get on, and blah, blah, blah. Anyway, the story, which is a funny story, but sort of auto very indicative.”

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  29. “To Auschwitz, all that kind of stuff, hissing to simulate gas chambers. And that's gone on for years and years and years. There was one particular incident where me and my brother were at Chelsea and that chance started. We weren't even playing Spurs. And then it was directed at us, at me and my brother, with people just going, fuck the Jews, fuck the Jews over and over again. And my point is not that there was an anti-Semite at a football match. My point is that that happens. The point is stewards by then and in the program, and this is my point about the conversation and about in identity politics by then 2009, the program said any racism heard in the grounds will lead to immediate ejection and a banning for life. Nothing happened. Literally, no one said anything. The stewards just because it didn't.”

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  30. “David Cameron. So, one of the so start the book, and indeed I started the film that I did about you singing at Film Aid for Channel 4 with a series of examples of what I call the Jews don't count phenomenon. I then go on to try and explain why I think this is happening to do with the privileged thing and the whiteness of Jews or whatever. But probably the most violent example is that me and my brother go to Chelsea every home game and we have put up with for 20 years, 30 years the fact that because there is this association of Tottenham Hotspur with a sort of phantom idea as a racist idea of Jewishness because they are located in a fairly Jewish, that they are called Yids and I'm going to use the word. They are called yids and their fans not only chant yids and yid army but it's said back to them, which is the key thing by Chelsea fans and Arsenal fans and West Ham fans in extreme ways including with Holocaust stuffed Spurs are on their way.”

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  31. “Okay, so what you need to know about that is I am not saying in the book, oh, I desperately want the sort of madder ends of what happens when identity politics becomes the way we all think and a kind of trigger culture happens and everyone becomes offended about everything to necessarily be applied to Jews. I'm just saying I'm modeling how that is thought about, how that is talked about with other minorities and asking the question why are Jews left out of this and what does that mean for how people think about Jews? How people take that is another conversation, but it's not a manifesto about, and now I want people to get incredibly angry every time there's a tiny bit of what might be considered to be casual anti-Semitism, which by the way is never going to happen. It's never going to happen.”

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  32. “I don't think it's quite analogous because I don't think an upper middle class English bloke is a minority. All of this has to be keyed into the fact my thinking is that Jews need to be counted as a minority, as a vulnerable minority, which is what they aren't thought of because of the Jewish association with privilege and power. But my point is...”

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  33. “It's the same thing. It's a way in which there's a sort of arbitration that happens with Jews between Jews and what they want to talk about. There has to be a serious hoops and hurdles that they have to go through. And I reject those.”

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  34. “I do, but I don't feel this is part of my thinking, Rory, is that I think it is not my responsibility to either defend or attack Israel as a Jew, because that is not a stricture placed on any other minority in relation to any other country. If I was a British Muslim and I wanted to talk about Islamophobia in the Tory party, for example, I don't think anyone would say, well, first of all, I'd like to know how you feel about what's happening in Iran or human rights in Saudi Arabia. Can we clear that up first?”

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  35. “To do with Israel, say online someone will instantly say, What about Palestine? It's as if you can't talk about that subject without putting your cards on the table about Israel.”

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  36. “Okay, so one of the things I say in it is that I personally, there's a very short bit about Israel, and I make a point of not talking very much about Israel, because I think there's an assumption, again, on the left, that the whole conversation is about Israel. So, for example, Tariq Ali, as an example of a very progressive person at a Hyde Park march in support of the Palestinians a couple of years ago, said if the state of Israel were to end the occupation, anti-Semitism would disappear. So the State of Israel was started in 1948. There was quite a big anti-Semitic incident just before that. There's no way in the world that anti-Semitism is just about Israel. And the notion that it's all about Israel is dismissive of anti-Semitism, in my opinion. Unquestionably, it is still important, unquestionably it is used by the left. And the most bald and annoying way it's used by the left, and this is partly why I refuse to talk about Israel, is that if you're talking about anti-Semitism, nothing.”

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  37. “Is really quite a commute. Now you had a hard time with the Tory part, and you'd have to leave the country, go and live in Jordan.”

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  38. “Within the labour market, there was lots of other stuff going on. So if you actually hear, for example, the way that Luciana Berger was sort of alienated out of her local Labour Party, it's sort of really unpleasant and violent.”

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  39. “Well, there are lots of other specific problems like this, that book imperialism, which is a very good example. A lot of the time what I was trying to point out with the mural and that book imperialism by Hobson, is it? Is that if I felt with Corbyn and with quite a few people on the left, they feel there are bigger issues going on. So with the mural, it's about world poverty. And, you know, that's the important thing. And it's just irritating if people think, you know, but they've represented them in an anti-Semitic way. That's annoying and it's a distraction. Similarly, imperialism is a big book about imperialism in which Hobson just says there is a race of Jewish financiers. It's a sort of early 20th century book who are controlling imperialism and it's their responsibility. And Corbyn wrote just a glowing forward without any mention of that. Not because he's an anti-Semite, because anti-Semitism is not big. It's not important on his list of issues.”

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  40. “In 2019, I had become someone who did believe that there was too much of an issue with the really just this sort of not listening to aspect of the Jewish issue. I felt that Jews were saying there's a problem here and they were being dismissed.”

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  41. “Yeah, I voted Labour all my life. I didn't vote Labour in the 2019 lecture. I can't remember if I did in 2017. Was that the previous one? Yeah”

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  42. “I don't think he is an anti Semite in the way. I think Hitler was an anti-Semite, and I believe Kanye West is an anti-Semite. These are people who directly say very, very negative murderous things about Jews. He would never say anything like that. And I do not believe he would think it.”

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  43. “I think you're showing example of unconscious bias here. They would at least stop and think about it and think, well, it's not my place to say, how dare you, you're not my psychiatrist, but that's not what happens with Jews.”

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  44. “Because what my whole thing, to some extent, is about is I am modeling the language and vocabulary of identity politics. And I'm showing how it doesn't apply to Jews. And I must just say this. And I truly believe that if anyone was to say to Jeremy Corbyn or any other progressive about any other minority.”

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  45. “With the conversation, with what happened with the answer. So, what I said is I do not believe at the front of his mind that Jeremy Corbyn is an anti-Semite. And I use the example of that mural that he supported, the picture that went up in East London a while ago, a mural of some very, very hook-nosed bearded men, rich men playing monopoly on the backs of the world's boar, and some Jewish people complained about it, and the artists said, oh, I see some old white, very important word, white Jewish folk have got upset about my portrayals of their beloved Warberg and their beloved Rothschild. I mean, this is a progressive guy sounding like Goebbels, right? And Jeremy Corbyn supported him. And when I used the phrase at the front of his mind, I got massive hate on Twitter. And in fact, Jeremy Corpman himself said, what does he mean? Is he my psychiatrist? How does he know what's at the front or back of my mind? And I realized then that I should have said Jeremy Corbyn is showing unconscious bias.”

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  46. “So I answered this recently on Beth Rigby Show. So there's two things. I actually thought I shouldn't have answered it, not because I can't answer it, but because that was actually on Holocaust Memorial Day. And I am, as we know, somewhat precious about the Holocaust. And I thought if I answer this, it will just be, certainly on social media, what blows up and what everyone talks about. But because I'm kind of polite, despite swearing a lot on this, I didn't say.”

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  47. “Those things, and indeed within diverse decotients, like the one thing you wouldn't have got certain way of the book, there's been a slight shift since then is someone saying we need to include when we're doing a diversity initiative some information education about anti-Semitism. Now I think that is happening and I get asked to do it a lot. Be honest, I think that's a result of the book and other conversations”

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  48. “Yeah, that's what I think has happened. And within that intensification, there's a lot of good things, I think. There's some not so good things. But in general, a heightened awareness that there are identities within the culture that don't necessarily operate with enough inclusion, enough representation, enough sense that things are being said about them, their lived experiences dismissed, et cetera, et cetera. I think in general we're undergoing a period of correction about that and people are trying to be more aware of those things than they used to be. Within that conversation, it seemed to me, certainly when I wrote the book, that Jews were not really included, that it wasn't a big deal, that anti-Semitism wasn't such a big issue for the people who were very worried about racism, that it wasn't even understood as racism, that it was thought of as religious intolerance, which, as I've often said, is clearly incorrect because I'm an atheist, as that book proves, and the Gestapo would shoot me tomorrow.”

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  49. “Well, the thesis of the book, which we've sort of slightly covered, but is that I had the impression, and the context is very important, which I think is correct, that in the last 20 years there's been a massive intensification of what is called identity politics. So politics has now shifted for me slightly away, whether it has in reality, but certainly within the conversation from about being sort of economics and class or whatever, to being about what we call identity. And that is a whole branch of like could be ethnicity, which is my primary subject, but it also includes sexuality and gender”

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  50. “In a way, people trying to tell me what is and isn't the Holocaust is the same thing. Because the Holocaust is the acme of anti-Semitism.”

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