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David Davis

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“He was formerly Labour member of Parliament. I was stressed this since we're on PACs. He was that wolf pack. And he was standing there looking a bit miserable. I don't know why, but he was still standing in the lobby.”
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“The Daily Mary, yeah, the Robert Maxwell had died. He asset stripped the pension funds, stolen money from the pension funds.”
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“It'd be like Kenya a day. But I say this story. And I'd been to the city raising money for this. I struck how easy it was, right? I got 300 million in the morning. And I thought, God, these guys are sick. They're talking about bankers. Anyway, so I walked. And at the time, the daily man.”
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“But that always in me triggers the first requirement. Am I applying the same standards? Because many people, if they don't like the person on the receipt of an injustice, don't care. Or they care less, right? And one of my little internal triggers is, if I don't like the person, I've got to make very, very sure that what we're doing to them or with them is right. And so Assange I don't like, but he wasn't a cyber spy, or he didn't kill people, despite what they claimed, the Americans. He just embarrassed the American government. That's actually Joe Biden has now admitted. So that's a classic case. And I was just applying the logic of, you know, what sort of approach should we take to somebody who's a sort of journalist sort of blogger sort of thing? And that's what I try and do. And of course, it does strike people as odd because it cuts across the pack mentalities. We were talking earlier about our conversation, right?”
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“He's a lamb. You're a wolf. That's true. It's true. He is a wolf. And I sort of reject that. I always try, I mean, let me give you the most recent example is Assange, right? Now, I don't approve of Julian Assange. I think I don't approve of many things he did.”
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“And he looks at me blankly. I said, piss poor economist. Although somebody the other day, I was sitting next to an engineer, I told that story, and he said, no, no, it stands for piss poor, everything. But there is a serious point behind this badinage, and that is a lot of people's politics is not remotely logical. It's by which pack you're in. You should know this better than anybody. You're the best example. Which pack you're a member of?”
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“Exactly. She done the shit. You did PPE like Karen. Yeah, and I used to say to Cameron, you know, when I was teasing her, I said, you're a PPE stands for, don't you?”
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“Well, I just feel utterly logical. He's an establishment man. He doesn't require logic, you know, you know, you know, just true.”
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“Institutions, and indeed, for that matter, the United States, they took our institutions, our rule of law, our approach to things, our mindset, and that was that made them successful.”
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“It was a sort of process took about two years, all right. Partly, I mean, the army in part, we were learning about the Soviet Union, you know, and as a result, since I'm assiduous lad, I also read lots of background data on the Soviet Union and didn't really like this extreme form of socialism. And I start to think about what made societies what they were like. I did a bit of reading into history of British background and I came to the conclusion actually the most fundamental important thing about societies was the individual, not the state, the freedom of the individual, the rule of law, the institutional structure. There's a man called Landis who wrote a book called The Wealth and Poverty of Nations. And I'm grotesquely summarizing, but the outcome of that was really the most successful colonized nations were British colonized nations. Why? Because they had, they took our institutions, whether it's India or Canada or whatever. They took our institutions.”
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“Funnily enough, I had dinner with the remaining four two nights ago, the special forces club. We have a meeting. We have what we call, I mean, sorry, this is a very bad taste. You're going to get all sorts of terrible comments on social media. We call ourselves the nuclear suicide bombers club, right? And the reason was our task was to jump in behind enemy lines, find the concentrations, the camps and so on, maybe you remember that image of the traffic jam of tanks north of Kiev, try and make something like that happen by blowing a bridge, whatever, and then call in the weapons, you know, which would probably be nuclear weapons, given that we would be losing by then, and run like hell, but we didn't really expect to get out of it.”
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“Well, look, listen, it's working class South London society for a start. It's a fairly no-nonsense society, shall we say. Things are resolved quite quickly. So that's sort of how I grew up. That was sort of the environment. I had a year to kill anyway. I need to raise money to get university because my parents weren't going to pay. In those days you had grants and you had a contribution that the parental contribution that was made. And my parents wouldn't even fill in the form. So I couldn't get a grant, let alone get the parental contribution. That was never going to come. And so I thought, I've got to make some money. So it was a mixture. I always laugh and just, I was a mercenary. I did it for the bounty, the parachute. You got £140. Sounds like nothing. 140 pound parachute bounty, tax-free parachute bounty. That was half my annual grant, or would have been if I'd had a grant, you know. So it was a mixture of I wanted a parachute. I was interested. Nobody heard of me. You see, today everybody knows what the SAS was.”
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“Interesting, but no more than that. I only did it once, I didn't bother again. I didn't want to disrupt his family, you know, you know, he got three or four other children”
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“He lived in Wales. He was married, as it turned out when he met my mother and had their affair. She didn't know that until afterwards.”
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“His name was Ronald Davis. He was a working class man, semi-skilled. He's mostly a shop stewards, father of the chapel when he died. When he died, I mean, his death was like his funeral. It was like a mafia funeral. 300 people turned up, more coming, wanted to shake my hand.”
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“Well, this is interesting. This is why my grandfather's insight on this. Afterwards, he talked to me about it. He said, David, he said, You have to understand that you are the other man in your mother's life to your stepfather. That's how he sees you. You are the representative of the other man, you know. So every success you have is a rebuff to him.”
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“I just remember him as commanding. As I say, charismatic. I never thought about, I mean, remember, if it's the first family you grow up in, that's normal by definition. If you had four arms, it would have been normal to my mind, right? But he was also very insightful. I remember many years later I left home in a violent encounter with my stepfather.”
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“He was blacklisted in those days. Employers would run a blacklist between themselves. So somebody had been an activist. So he's also an activist in the coalfields during the war and a communist party member. So for all those reasons, he was blacklisted. And so he couldn't get a job. I think he eventually got a job. Clifford's Tower, the castle in York, selling tickets, you know, and this is a man self-educated, but a man of formidable intellectual capacity. I mean, makes me look like a dwarf. I mean, really sort of absolute formidable intellectual capacity. And incredibly charismatic. He was a brilliant speaker, could command crowds. And indeed, if you read the newspapers, he's such a figure in my family that one of my uncles, who I never knew for a long time, actually collected all of the writings about him and all of the local paper things and so on. So that's how I know about a lot of it. And they write about him in sorts of...”
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“After March, I mean, at one point, I thought it was a garrow marches, then I looked it all up and it can't have been because the communists weren't allowed on Jeremiah, but there were lots of marches. And actually the Jaramarch, people don't realize it was the respectable one. When the Jeremarch got to Leeds, I think it was, the Yorkshire Conservative posters, it was known then, had a banquet for them.”
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“He doesn't give them a shilling 5p in today's parlour. He doesn't give him a shilling. What he did, he went to prison twice. The other time for chaining himself, the ratings number 10. He got closer than I did, obviously.”
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“Well, I don't know. I mean, who knows? I mean, I know he was more responsible for my early education than the education system was because I didn't read till I was seven. I was quite a late reader, partly, I think, as a disruption of living there and then going to Catholic school and get thrown out of that and all sorts of things. But anyway, so, you know, and I can remember him quoting me, the Rubayat of Omakayam. I can remember him also doggarol of all sorts, you know, sort of various things, but also, I don't know, I mean, for example, I don't know why this sticks in my mind, but a charity collector comes to the door much more common in those days, collecting for one charity or another, and he goes, and bear in mind he's unemployed himself.”
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“So if you are willing to be bound over to keep the peace, by which I mean not make inflammatory speeches, then I will simply do that, bind you over, and that'll be it. Otherwise, I'll have to send you to prison. And my granddad says, I'm not going to make a promise. I can't keep. So he goes to prison for six months.”
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“And quite a lot of people end up in dock the next day, including my granddad and his partner. And this is Judge Goddard, the man who was the member's Lord Justice Goddard, was responsible for the last capital punishment in the UK, that one, right? So he's not a Softie, right? In any sense the word. This is early on in his career. And at the end of the trial, he says to, I mean, I have to paraphrase, I don't know the exact words. He says to my grandfather and his partner, he says, you two gentlemen are clearly just trying to help your fellow man.”
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“He's a communist, yeah. He was a member of the National Unemployed Men's Movement, which actually I think Orwell writes about in Wigan Pier, which used to go and protect these people if the bailiffs came and used to try and raise money for them. And so anyway, that was him. And on their third demo of the morning of the day, the chief of police comes up and says, Walter, that's his name, Walter Harrison. He said, Walter says, you realize if this gets violent, you will be responsible. And my grandfather laughs and says, you know me better than that, Chief Inspector. And at that point, the police batten charged the crowd. So there's something. Tory laughs at police brutality. The conjunction of the conversation. And it said, all right, okay, you've taken responsibility for it. Now we can, you know. And lots of fun.”
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“60, I don't really know much about that. I know his brother got shot in the face in the First World War. He was also unemployed. He had half his face missing, his brain damaged. I mean, look, it was a gruesome. I mean, somebody tells a story in one of the magazines in those days about Norse Shields. And they talk about people going down the fish stock, picking up fish from the ground that had been lost so they could eat. You know, that's, we have no countenance today. What poverty really means in those terms?”
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“With unemployed people. Thousands of people demanding jobs. Actually, demanding a better unemployment benefit because they were starving, and there were various rules that said, for example, if anybody in a household worked, nobody got any money and so on.”
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“Yeah, no shields is even worse than that in a way. I mean, it was a really down, it was characterized in the 30s as a down at heel place with the rest of the country. Anyway, he took his demo to the local authority. They refused to see him. So he did it again. They went back to the beginning of the march moan, they had another march, right? And they refused to see him again. So went back and had another march.”
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“Basically, he'd had polio, so he couldn't work anyway. But he and one other guy had led a demonstration in North Shields to get an increase in the dole, in the unemployment benefit, because that was run by local authorities in those days, and they chose their own levels.”
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“Against single moms. Unmitigated nonsense. I mean, it's been around forever. I mean, the simple truth is that in the 50s, I mean, generally speaking, you were taken straight to an orphanage or adopted literally even before your mother saw you, right? It was really that fierce. And society's view of the mother's was barbaric, right? But my grandparents insisted on raising me.”
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“Anyway, health and safety culture already. Anyway, I was brought up by my grandparents because my mother had me, she was a single mum. In those days, it was sort of a... Stigma”
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“Yeah, probably with his tenants in them. It was used to be made in factories in the Second World War to put on places where a bomb had dropped, you know, just raise the house and stick a prefab on it.”
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