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  1. I think it's something that is just there's a therapeutic thing to. Of course. I mean, men don't do it. We're useless. That's mental health that one of these people asking, you talking. That's why I'm saying a lot of people don't actually listen. A lot of talking about yourself, a lot of people talking about themselves at the moment. So there's a therapeutic side to this.

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  2. Okay, can I have an easier question? Let's take this back to, I hopefully promised to do. A number of things I do for number charities, we won't talk about that, and they're not promises. I suppose the promises from Well Where to make people smile. To bring back the positivity that I think is needed somewhere, I think we're in this polarized world that we are in. Just to say, fuck it, we're just going to make people smile and have a laugh with everything that we do. And I think you can't put a monetary value on that. So that's what I promised to try and do over the years of World War.

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  3. And then we've thought about every element of the sweatshirts and the hoodies and the t-shirts of comfort level of style, of fit, of quality, of well-wear breath, well-wear care. We put these elements into wash into the clothing that is aloe vera. So pajamas are moisturizing you whilst you're asleep, anti-inflammatory. We've got well-wear breathe and antibacterial elements of it, which is another element of... We were looking at fast fashion. Fast fashion can be an addiction. And people don't realize this addiction that you get a buzz from shopping, but actually you can be hugely affected knowing the impact of fast fashion on the environment. And actually, when that clothing lasts a week. Weeks, I'm exaggerating, it lasts, you know, but it can do. Some people wear it once and chuck it away. Actually, it can negatively impact you

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  4. Why do I hold on to that pair of jeans until my ass is falling out the end of it and I would try and find that pair again and I can't find that pair? And why am I wearing those sweatshirts? Because, well, it was one for comfort, and that is an element of lots of things. And the materials, the breathability, the style, you still got to look stylish in it. It makes you feel confident, the fit. That's why at the end of the day, that's why it was never to me about being trendy, it was being confident. And so many guys said to me, what do I wear here? What are you confident in?

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  5. We looked at the studies done by Amsterdam University, I think it was a scientific element of if we put students in comfortable, confident clothing, they're confident that's comfortable and soft, their results are better than other people who are in uncomfortable clothing and they don't feel as confident or that's going in the same with business. It was now why the banks, the big banks are saying you don't have to wear suits anymore because actually a lot of people are more positive, they're a lot more open to work with, they're a lot calmer, it's oxytonin, it's the same thing as feeling the ridiculously soft pillow a puppy, that softness, that soft jumper, you know, that thing you hold on to is oxyton, it's released into your brain. It's a positive positive move. And that's what we wanted to do with. And we looked into this. And, you know, there was a side to me that was fascinated by the element of it. But I've always wondered, you know, why.

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  6. I never really tell people where I've got it in my head, where something is hopefully going to be. There is small steps to where we haven't even properly launched the first shipping goes out on 22nd of October. We wanted to do something different with Welware. We wanted to, to the essence of me, it was understanding, and we're calling it sort of well, where well-being, why clothing, why does some clothing make you feel positive and confident?

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  7. Hit and locked down and one of my greatest friends, Charlie T, who has listened to me talk far too long about wanting to start my own thing, and he started his own branding agency To do exactly what I wanted, and he said, Well, listen, I've started this now. You can be our first client, but I'll We're not talking about this anymore. We've got the time. I've, you know, as my best friend he knows, I'm never really around. He said, I've got you here. We went together. I've got you in the country. We've got time. Let's start it.

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  8. collaboration with MS. Davy Gandhi loungewear? No one was doing loungewear. This was, what did we talk about? The concept six, seven, seven, a half years ago, seven years ago. Lounge, loungewear wasn't a big concept. It wasn't something that people thought about. And of course we did sleepwear and t-shirts and everything else, but it was loungewear that really took off and became third biggest loungewear in the country and was successful. And it had, you know. 60 of me in that brand as in what I wanted to achieve on that brand but of course you couldn't get that last 400% because that was M&S and I knew I wanted to go I knew what needed to be done but I couldn't push it any further than I sort of could so that ended and then the pandemic

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  9. And I always thought, yeah, to be in complete control, complete creative control. And that's a risk. I never wanted the people to think because I have a name, because I've been in the fashion industry for so long, I could start a brand. Now people do now. It's social media, one of those elements is you can start something, you can sell it immediately, you've got fans, followers, buyers. It's made the marketplace a very different place. So I went back to really what I did for modeling observation, putting myself in the situation where I could learn, and that was MS.

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  10. It is That's where people have to realize when I say sometimes. And then I would probably say it's 10 years, I've thought, yes, that's where one day I'd like to, not saying I'm always going to achieve it, but yes, from the creative side to being in control of that brand. I'm always in control by other brands, even if I'm collaborating with a brand, there is still an element of control that that brand has.

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  11. Why the Because it was what I've wanted to achieve for so long, is have that to me, to have your own brand. I didn't know what it was going to be. I am a brand. You know, that's, I say that, and it makes me sound like a bit of a dick.

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  12. I've read that. I don't know where I've read that. I've read the same thing. And I could actually resonate with that in many ways. I've sometimes actually achieving what you want is... Bit, it's sometimes the journey is the exciting bit, which is a weird thing to say. It's we are on this journey of well where Davy Ganny, the brand at the moment, and it is so much hard work.

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  13. Yeah, it does, not for that long, but it does. I can take It's the same feeling as, you know, if we go and shoot light blue or something else. Work hard in the gym to get, I'm always in pretty decent shape, but that's hard work to get in that shape. And it's getting harder the older I get. And you dedicate a lot and you sacrifice a lot to look like that. And then there is that point of, we've shot it, we've seen the pitch, it looks incredible. You've achieved it. And there is this. Evening of enjoying that. It's then on to the next thing. You know, it's what are we working on? Not next, but one of the other projects that I'm working on at the time.

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  14. Again, good question. I mean, I'm happy. I put myself, listen, when I'm in control of what I do now. Why I always wanted to do it. I'm on my control free, I don't know. The hard work where we've got to has allowed me now to be in complete control of what of my destiny of what I want to do. If I want to renovating interiors, huge passion, love doing it. Looks like a nightmare hard work for other people, but I strive on it. Renovating classic cars, the same thing. As I said to you earlier, you're halfway through, you think, why am I doing this? Why didn't I just buy a new car or a new build? And then you got over the accomplishment is worth it to me. You know, that sense of achievement. That's what I'm striving for

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  15. I don't know, if I'm totally honest. That's something you probably have to ask your. A psychiatrist. I don't know happy person. I'm a positive person. And I suppose I am a happy person in many ways. Yes, that's right, but I suppose it's just a definition of what's positive, what's happy. Is it all the same thing?

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  16. Exactly. That's an expensive thing, to be honest. There's a time probably the only time I actually probably truly. And that's when everyone, I mean everyone virtually everyone is not doing anything during that week. That's a week where I probably switch off the most. And we always sort of go away a week later after that because it takes time for people to get back. It's not fear of missing out, it's fear of other people working and I'm not working, I should always be working. And during the pandemic, no one was working.

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  17. In the marketing world on how to market to people, how to target people. So it's been affected by it. And that all kind of Brexit got signed January, whole different world. It was sort of that December, January, what, 2020? I was off to Milan. I was then going to Spain. I was then going to Greece. I was then going to New York. I was then back to Milan. Had the schedule like it used to be going off out to Russia, never been to Russia. It was really excited about going to Russia the first time. The pandemic hit. Everything got cancelled.

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  18. Two financial, you know, it affected me financially And we'd already been infected quite heavily in this industry by Brexit has the blame of Brexit now. Was the uncertainty of Brexit. So, a lot of brands were not spending money, a lot of marketing money, not having budgets, not working with the UK. All they still did different things. Also uncertainty in brands with social media now of old school campaigns versus digital, which still hasn't quite fizzled out yet. Brands don't quite know where they are.

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  19. There never slept well. I didn't sleep well when I was a child. But it was the other way around, went to bed, got up, went to bed, you go to bed early. And then my parents just left me being the under. I think they were just so sick of trying to get me to go to bed because I just didn't sleep. And I would be doing my homework at midnight, one o'clock in the morning. I still work now. I was up till two o'clock in the morning working last night. And that's another thing when people go, it's about grafting or hard work. Most people, a lot of people are sitting down at half past eight, nine o'clock in front of a TV ready to go to bed. Half past eight, I'm going to the gym, get back at half past nine, do the shopping on the way home, cook myself some dinner, go. Doesn't stop in between working on the phone.

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  20. And you can't in many, many ways. You can talk and you have to be, you know, it's about just being patient and listening to people and trying to get them help, professional help. There is an element where you, you know. I can only talk about certain to my point, and then it comes to an expert help that they have to talk. And that's what Calm does. It's allowing people to talk to people. And there are people that are far better. People need to listen to people. That's the point of it. I think there's a lot of people who, even if They are talking to people, they're not listening. Fortunately, it's never been that bad. I do understand it.

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  21. As I said, was just nothing would make you. You couldn't snap out of it. Nothing could make you happy or cheerful. You didn't like anyone, you didn't want to be around anyone. Hard to the feelings are hard to explain. It never got to any point of seriousness. I mean, I've seen people with bipolar that, well, being in a room for hours on end, for days on end, watching the same TV series because their safety is watching that TV series and makes them a little bit happy, you know, because of just that safety for some reason. So I've seen the real dark side of it. I've also from me dating someone like that of how hard it is to deal with it because you always want to try and make that person better.

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  22. Never suffered from depression, and I'm very fortunate as badly as other people have. And I've witnessed it because I've dated people That were then diagnosed with bipolar, and I've seen the extremities of Mental health Me, myself, and I admit it's not happened for a while would go into dark periods Knowing I would snap out of it eventually. But they were dark, but nothing would suffice. Nothing would cheer you up. Just quite in a dark place wanting to be on my own, just not around anyone. Wasn't triggered by anything, but just one day I just knew I'd wake up and it was gone to the chemical, a chemical reaction in your brains, basically. What it is. And yeah, so I do understand, and I can spot it in other people as well.

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  23. And yeah, Winston Churchill asked him to come back in the Second World War. He used to be his bodyguard, then he stopped and he came back. And just the most incredible diary, you imagined the diaries of being Winston Churchill's bodyguard wasn't easy. Course, fascinating because, of course, Winston Churchill that they call his episodes the black something or other, which we now probably know as bipolar. And Water Thompson was the person that protected everyone or protected him from everyone seeing that. So yeah, just kept everyone away from seeing those episodes that no one would have realized

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  24. I mean, of course, I mean, you're always going to be asked to do stuff like that just from the physical element of the way I look and you're not going to be a part in it. But it wasn't anything I was. I got my bean bonnet about the industry I'm in and what I wanted to achieve in this. There's always a couple of roles that I would play, and I would drop everything. And there's just a couple of stories that I love that I've even One of them is about Winston Churchill's bodygu Water Thompson I even found out who owns the rights to it all. And it's the most incredible story, and he was originally from Epping and Essex.

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  25. It's a kind of a rumor. I met the author and she said, we would love to send you the script. And I think it might have got sent. And I admit I'd never read the books I mean, they had, I mean, Jamie Dornan. Is an awesome actor. You know, he was a model. I mean, he was one of the, he was one of the biggest models, but he wanted to go into acting. And he's a great actor. He's very, very. And there, you know, if I ever went, I won't go into acting, but looking at that, I was like, I couldn't be Jamie. I couldn't be as good as that. He's very, very good. And then you look at the other levels of sort of other actors and you just think it's not something I was, I could learn. I could learn to be quite good at, but I could never probably be the best at it

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  26. So, I needed someone else in it. Again, people look at me and go, Why would you not want to put yourself in that? Because I wasn't the right part for Just because the concept I've come up with in my head is not me. That role. I see someone else. It's casting, you know, it's think of the greatest role if you think top gun, you think Tom Cruise, what if they'd put someone else in that? Would that been the success it would be? Probably argue no.

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  27. Probably But no, it'd be quite interesting to know why I was. And actually might help me overcome some fearsome anxiety. It does sound very strange, even when I say it, it makes no sense. And it's probably why maybe there's been sort of striving for not to be in front of the camera, especially with my own stuff, is being OB behind it. You know, I've been creative director to quite a few brands now and advisor. And I've gone and helped, just been on so many shoots where I just, oh, come on as creative director. I don't need to be paid. I just want to love being that creative element to it. Gentlemen, asked me, and the RAF and Braille asked me to direct REF film. Loved it. Absolutely loved not, I wasn't in front of that. And it was, they were like, no, no, we want you to be in front of me. I was like, absolutely not. I'll direct it. And I'll cast someone else for it who I think is perfect for it because I'm not perfect. I'm not good enough for that, you know, not good enough, but I just don't suit that role.

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  28. And there's nothing the actual event. Presenting an award, reading off an auto cue to present it. I mean, it's an honor to do it. I know it's an honor. I know I have to do it. But the whole night. Whenever you're presenting is me on that table, not enjoying that evening, because I know there is one point that I've got to go up there and be in front of everyone, and I've done it a million times now, and it still doesn't get any easier. It's very, very strange. But, you know, there you go. It's easier to accept an award, of course.

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  29. I'm used to it. Yeah, I've traveled the world. I don't speak to people for days. So it was always kind of a joke between us. So yeah, and then when you're naturally, the complete opposite of being alone, you know, love-taking dogs for walk, I love walking for hours and in if I ever, ever get sort of proper time to do it with no one around me. The exact opposite of that is the red carpet. Me.

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  30. Character or hide behind a role or something when I'm playing on that date, that's me. It's just not something, it's strangely weird. Yeah. My other half, Steph, love to go out, love to go to events. She gets such a buzz, such gets enthusiasm for it. Actually, like, you know, and she honestly probably thought that was me when we first met. I go to an event, I'm drained from people. I'm actually naturally a loner. I could, you know, we sort of joke with Steph when we first went. She would give me a silent treatment. And I was just like, Steph, I'm going to tell you now. I'll win at this game because I can go off. I can go on for days not talking.

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  31. Is me, but there's a role you're playing. I know there's actors as well, I've spoken to them. They love being in character. After those characters, they don't want the limelight, they don't want fame, they don't want to speak to anyone, they don't want to do press junkets, they hate the red carpet. Exactly the same. So when you're on set, you're almost playing someone else. And there's an element as well of there is this David Gandhi. And I talk about it in a third person because that's the brand sometimes I have to talk about. That's the name. So you, yes, you are walking onto a set almost being something else. Not that I'm acting any of a different. And then there is, and the red carpet is just not that environment. I can probably hide behind.

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  32. It's just an unnatural environment for me to be. When you When you're employed by a brand to create what is in their vision, you're playing a role, like blue, I'm a Mediterranean guy in Italy in small white speedos. It's not me.

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  33. To sort this out with GQ You're on the red carpet, done it a million times before. There's still dread filled. I'm filled with dread to getting on that red carpet and having the pictures taking. It's just not a natural environment for me. And I was thrilled that there was a huge long queue because everyone wanted to be on the red carpet. Everyone wanted their pitch taken, everyone wanted to be in the papers and put it on their Instagrams. And I went, too long. I'm not, you know, I'm going to swerve that one. So I swerved it and went upstairs. Went into an environment where I was much happier where actually I needed to speak to a few certain people for a few certain reasons and went to go and hunt them down and go and speak to them.

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  34. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't say I've got a lack of confidence. There's lack of confidence where I think I know my limitations maybe. But I also like Business Limitations to see where I can get to and see what I can achieve and learn. GQ Wards. We went to two weeks ago and you sign up your

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  35. Confidence again when I was confident into going something, I was absolutely fine. I just wanted an opportunity. That was always... What I want to be able to, you know, people will say, why have you not gone into acting? I'm not confident. If there's anxiety, give me a script to learn and try and put me in front of a camera and you'll see that's when I'll probably be anxiety. Although I've done that and I achieved that, and I quite loved it, so it was a scary side of it, but it's not something I naturally good at.

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  36. Maybe it was the worth thought if you think about that now. Yeah. It just because. I do find this still now in the world that everyone likes to pigeonhole. Everyone likes to, you are put in a certain category. And if you don't fit in. Then you're strange, your strange person. Why don't you like the same stuff? Why don't you wear the same stuff as us? Why don't you? Think the same way that we think. Of course, it's now got to very polarize when we have different opinions as they attack each other now. It's like the left or right. nowhere in the middle I think that element that I've always just, I suppose I've been quite an individual thinker in some ways. Kind of, and that might put me in good stead for the business we're in. But yeah, the anxiety thing, maybe it's...

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  37. I have one pair and I go to the gym with them and I have a running pair. And everyone sort of looks at you as if, but I love that fact. You know, it's just me being a little bit different. But it can also lead to being a little bit stubborn that you take that to a little bit far of not ever relinquishing that. You want to be sort of different or like all the time. You want to, I don't know why you do it.

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  38. Bit like the same. No, I'm still like it. I'm still in the fashion that example of not being in that group not being that pack, not doing the same thing everyone does, exactly the same thing. I didn't want to be in that. I saw things differently and wanted to do things my way. Maybe that's it. I mean, at the end of the day, maybe it was doing something my way. And I've always looked at that. That goes on for, that can go into, if you can go into styling. It's like, well, no one's wearing suits. I'm going to wear suits. No one's, you know, why don't you do this? It's like, you know, people still take the mic out of me because I do not own a pair of sneakers or trainers. Now everyone, that's all they're wearing.

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  39. Secondary school, yeah, but primary was primary was quite fun. Enjoy primary school. Secondary school is just something different. We went to the wrong school. Maybe he made the wrong choices. It was me. I'm not blaming anyone. I'm not blaming anything. It was just. And Quite steadfast, I'm not fitting in. I didn't fit in particularly well and I wasn't going to change my way of fitting into everyone else.

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  40. I mean, I didn't fit in at school. That was basically it. It wasn't all good friends from that school, but it was just a certain time before I kind of met those people The group of guys and girls I used to hung around with. And there was bullying and there was, I just didn't fit in. That was all it was.

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  41. I'm naturally a shy person, but shyness is not anxiety. So I can't say, I mean, if I probably gave someone symptoms of stuff I've had or things that have happened, they might say, well, that's anxiety. My anxiety, if I still think of There's a weird thing of when I hear. Music to the Antiques Roadshow on a Sunday night. I still have anxiety that I haven't done my homework. I have to go to school next day. That's how much I hated. Hate, I hate to go up to a certain point. The sixth one was great with my friends that I still have. But that was the point of I still have that today when I hear that music, I literally stop and I'm like, oh, you know, I don't have to go to school tomorrow. What was so bad about school?

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  42. You take the opportunity, so I did that all the way around, and that's why I did kind of all the time. It was thinking constantly of like outside the box, of doing something different.

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  43. Everyone used to go down to the subway or walk and we'll go together. And there was this very pack mentality. And I was never into that pack mentality. I was quite always a much more sort of individual sort of loner. So I used to look at the facts and I used to let them go around the corner and I would virtually turn it upside down and do the opposite way. So those nine guys would go to the nine o'clock and I would go to the six o'clock and I would just turn up at the office and go, I know I'm supposed to be here at nine o'clock, but is John someone in yeah, he's here. Okay, can I see him? You take the opportunity where you've got, imagine going through seeing nine guys speaking to nine guys looking, but by the third person, you're like, they're going to be bored and...

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  44. And we always used to go off to New York for this big casting two weeks, try and get the jobs, all the big agencies. And you would go in a group of probably about 10 guys. And you'd have a list. Back in those days, you would have a fax, believe it or not. We didn't have mobile phones. It was a fact. So, got your facts in the morning, you had all your appointments, nine o'clock, 10 o'clock, 11 o'clock, 12 o'clock, blah, blah, blah, all the way through.

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  45. No, you grow old at the end of the day. You grow a little bit wiser. You grow a little bit, you calm down a little bit more and you accept yourself for who you are a little bit more as well. Twenties and thirties, 30s less, but 20s can be quite tricky for everyone. Quite know who you are, and you're trying to find out where you are in the world. You then, I think you get a bit more confidence in your 30. And that's where my 30 sort of came from, to why are you trying to be something else or trying to fit in? Never fit in. anywhere really particularly well or felt I haven't particularly fitted in you're in the fashion industry I've never felt I fitted in I was telling Model the other day actually we were working with

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  46. Those minds got you, or my nose got any bigger, which they do. They're only things that Kim were like, I just look like the BFG. Also, I think something that going back to the sort of trolling and Instagram, there is this thing about age now. Age is used as a weapon. You're so old. Look at all your wrinkles. It actually makes me laugh when people say, my God, that makes people have positive comments, but they can say, oh, you're getting older. Yeah. Everyone is. I've been in this game for 20 years. If you're comparing an image from 20 years ago, I'm not going to look the same. But it's almost like it's a negative thing. I've noticed that increasingly over the last couple of years is this aged thing is used as a weapon as if it's a bad thing No. I wish I've always been quite an old man in a young man's body anyway. So, shall I say mature?

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  47. I'm very fortunate that my fan base, which is a very organic fan base, actually, on social, are in. Massively kind and positive and that's the way of always post-social. I'm not a big lover of social media. I've stated it before. I see the use of it. I see the brilliance of it. I also see the negativity from it, especially for young children. I've spoken out about that. Yes, do things affect? Yeah, of course. You'll probably know this is that you might see a hundred comments. All positive. And then 101 comment, 102 comment is negative. And you'll remember it. You'll remember those two comments. So you can't remember the other hundred that are positive. And it's a really weird thing. So it's like dealing with people. You deal with the nice ones. You don't deal with the negativity. And that's what we've tried to do, really.

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  48. There's different people, you know, there's been castings where they're on the phone, they don't say anything to you, you put the book down, they go through two pages and they hand it back to you. Now, that is a bit demorizing, but hey, you know, like I've always made sure and I probably overenpensated that because I've been on the other side of casting casting other people is I probably kept there for too long and just chatted. Everything else.

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  49. You're not being horrible to someone, someone doesn't fit what you have perceived in your head. And that could be for any reason whatsoever. The attitude you bring into it, the charisma you come into that day on that casting, the way you look. And it could be anything. That person's too skinny. That person's too tall. That person's not big. You know, anything. And you have to realize that when you were casting is they weren't, it wasn't personal. It was almost business. No, you just don't fit the creative that we want at the moment. That changes when you have a name. That changes when you have a brand because they're buying into your brand. They're buying into your engagement with your fans. That's different. But when they first look at you at face value,

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  50. In this business, anyway, if you haven't got a thick skin, you shouldn't be in this game. You've got to have a thick skin. And what I understood, and I've probably only actually understood this from having to cast myself for people to represent my brand, is that.

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