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1. “It's meaningful and it's a reminder especially to younger people and when I've had an opportunity to teach it is to say that become part of something, enjoy the pursuit of working with others and be strategic I have some regrets, but I do look back at my own career and I'm still young, I'm 47, but I look back to be what I was and that's all well and good and I was successful at it but there's a price to be paid a human price where you're like you're a missile, you're not a human being and I would like to redo some of that and understand that it's working with others, being part of a team instead of just having it be about you is a really worthwhile thing and I think I guess I feel like I'm engaged in that a lot more now.”

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2. “Right, of course, but you still believed in people and maybe they were successful, maybe they weren't. But that idea of it just should feel like hard work.”

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3. “You know, it's interesting. So I just recently read Victor Frankl's Man in Search of Meaning, and what really struck with me is something he says more than once, and that is that happiness cannot be pursued, it must ensue, and And it reminds me so much of how my wife Beth has approached her career. Now she's phenomenally successful. I'm so proud of her, but she didn't really set out for this. You know, she set out to do well in school, to get a good education, to work hard. Yeah, she wanted to be a lawyer, and she just really kind of put her nose down and worked hard and didn't realize it would lead to this. And I think you've had aspects of this too in your own career about what you cared about doing and people that you, you know, that's the other thing in your career, you wanted to work. You wanted to be, you believed in these people.”

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4. “It is a relief, and I'll tell you what, I will tell you that as I sit here now and I look at what's happening at some big media enterprises, including where I used to work, I don't miss being there. I don't miss because you know what. Doing this kind of work to work as a journalist or someone who can analyze and comment on the issues of the day, that's great fun and it's really interesting. And when other things get in the way, that's not fun. And you don't want things to get in the way of an otherwise fun job.”

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5. “Negotiating this path about what you do in your career, what you want to do, am I thriving, am I not thriving, do I really want to do this? Or what about, you know, the commitment I have to my children? You know, I think women struggle with this. I think men struggle with this. I struggle with it. I'm in a wonderful position where I can be with my kids a lot and have a lot of flexibility to partner with Beth in parenting them. I can be at all these games. And there are times I feel like, damn, I'm not thriving. I'm not reaching those heights. So it's never perfect. You know, there are days when I say, darn, I'm missing out. I'm not fulfilled. I'm not thriving. And then there are days when I say, this is great. But there's also a lot of time where there's just the tension of like, it's not perfect, but I'm just going to keep working it and see where it takes me.”

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6. “There's also an awareness, you know, my wife has built a very successful law firm boutique trial law firm, and I'm incredibly proud of her and admire her a great deal. And I do consider that we are partners, you know. And I had so many years where people wouldn't even talk to her and they just recognized me. And then, you know, you come to realize it's not really about me. It was about the job. And now I'm in a position where often she's getting the credit. But I think we've got to level head about these things, about what they are.”

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7. “I've experienced some sadness and some pain, and I've made mistakes. But I'm kind of, you know, rolling through it, and I'm no better than anybody else and no worse than anybody else. But, you know, I've experienced something professionally that's really worthwhile, which is a kind of leveling off and a reminder of what is it you really like to do. And probably at a”

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8. “And I so appreciated it because I thought, what a question. And only he would ask such a question because it's this invitation to think about, well, so how is my faith? Is it what it was when I was younger? When is it the strongest? With whom is it the strongest? And would my life be different or better if my faith were stronger? And I came to realize after being on this path for 15 years that your questions, your answers may be different than my answers, but leaning into those questions is really, really worthwhile. And when I pray now and when I try to work through things now, there's a relationship with God that's very meaningful to me that I think helps me to try to be better and reminds me of, I don't know, the true grounding that my life has achieved, which is I've had great heights.”

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9. “And you know what? It paid off pretty well for him. And I thought that it was similar. I thought I recognized in him some of that dedication that I'd seen in my mother to overcome those problems and be committed to meaning and to purpose. Even though my mom's life materially or in other ways didn't vastly improve, but she was a happy, optimistic person who wanted to redeem her life. And she did that. And here he had done that as well. So when he said to me, how's your faith? You know, I remember thinking, you know, none of your damn business. But of course, I didn't think that I know why he was asking the question.”

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10. “Because it was very similar to my mother's, not the faith part. But here's a guy who clearly had a problem with alcohol. I don't think he calls himself an alcoholic and doesn't work the program. So he became born again. And that was a discipline that helped him reach a sense of meaning. A sense of identity and a sense of wanting to forge a relationship with God that could get him to a place of his best self.”

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11. “A Methodist, right, grew up in a Protestant, and she said, you know, look, if we're going to do this, you need to be the real deal. You need to know. You need to lead our family in faith in a way that, because she had a very strong faith. So she gave me both this gift, but also this challenge. And I took it very seriously and I thought, you know, it raised this question of, you know, what does it all mean? Who am I really? What am I after? And that started to open up these new questions that I dealt with. And I certainly was dealing with as things were going poorly for me. I don't want people to think I lost my job and found God. I mean, that would have been a great story. But I was on this path beforehand. And the thing I really admired.”

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12. “It certainly was not a very spiritual person in the least. And I got on this path, I think, actually at a period when I was very successful. I was just about to get me the press, but I was at the White House. I was doing very well. And, you know, my wife and I were talking about raising the kids as a Jewish family. But Beth really impressed upon me. She's a method.”

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13. “No, I mean, I had an upbringing, I think, similar to yours. We talked about this. That was a secular Jew. I was Bar Mitzvah. I had a sense of identity. I didn't really know very much.”

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14. “I could embrace what it means to be truly humbled, to be humiliated, to be brought low, and to recognize that that's okay, that it had its season, and it was great, but that I had to find ways of really forging identity that were not just about that.”

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15. “And what will I do? And it was as if everybody was kind of looking at me to say, you know, God, what happened to him? And I felt alone, you know, I mean, there was an exuberance in the coverage of me that I felt was the very worst of that kind of Washington gossipy journalism. But it's there. And I think I was responsible somewhat for that because I think people thought I was aloof and arrogant. And I think they thought that I was out for myself too much. And so when bad stuff happened, I don't think I had enough of a community around me to say, hey, you know, this guy does a good job and circumstances happen, whatever. I think there were people saying, oh, well, you know, he finally got his. And so, you know, I had to reckon with that and I had to get to a place where”

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16. “So I thought I kind of had it covered, and I sort of understood what it was, and I had it in context. But I don't think I fully prepared myself for the blow to a sense of identity and a sense of meaning. And so I really did go through a period of thinking, well, if I'm not that, then who cares about me? What does it matter? What I say?”

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17. “Not always well, I mean, it was really hard. I mean, I thought I had a better, you know, at the same time I've been on this kind of religious journey. Yes, I want to ask you about that.”

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18. “Yeah, I know, and nobody expected, and my mom, not anybody else, expected me to think about it then. But I was very, I internalized a lot about that. And so what I wanted and a lot of my ambition in my career was fueled by my sense of withdrawing from that, wanting to escape from it. I literally would, you know, close the door of my room. I was not a terribly effective student, but I would close the door in my room and I would sit there and watch the evening news and I would dream about being in some of those places. So I found a sense of meaning. Around achievement of that goal that that would be my rescue.”

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19. “Well, at first there was a sense of relief that the secret was out. But I was really angry and I was ashamed, and I carried that anger for a long time, you know, into adulthood. I think my mother sometimes thinks I carry it even still today, but the truth is I become humbler and humbler as I not only see the effects of addiction in other people as I struggle as a parent to monitor kids, one of whom is a teenager. To recognize that she was sick, she was doing the best she could. And thank God, you know, that she didn't kill anybody.”

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20. “In the back row, and my mother, I could tell, was drunk, and she was swerving. I had been used to this, unfortunately, but she got pulled over and she got arrested that night. And I was 15 years old, and she was taken away in handcuffs.”

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21. “Yeah, I mean she struggled with addiction early on and certainly when married to my father and you know it's when you're a child of an addict you know you do everything you can to protect that secret and it sucks and it's you know There's also things I was just watching this 30 for 30 on Chris Heron, the basketball player, that amazing story of addiction, how well he operated quote unquote well he was operating as a basketball player even though he had this horrible sickness and addiction and my mother did that too she was functioning and she kind of frayed at the edges and then she was driving one night and I was in the car and I had just been at a speech and debate tournament and I had won and my speech coach my speech and debate coach was with me in the back of the seat.”

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22. “Yeah, yeah. My mom, and it had a big impact on me in terms of, I would say, you know, my own sense of identity, my ambition. My mom was an alcoholic. She's been sober now over 30 years.”

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23. “You're not going to get anywhere. And so I think that's the key to it. That's the key to it. And I think the efforts to marginalize them is something that's unfortunate. And it's very easy to see through it.”

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24. “And follow up. And yes, you know what? The White House press pool can be, there can be a PAC mentality, there can be groupthink, there can be laziness.”

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25. “Well, I agree with that. I agree that he's willfully ignorant of the history and disdainful of it, and he thinks that it's a reality show. And I feel that very strong, and I feel like what his, whether Sean Spicer or what Sarah Sanders does and chooses to do, I think, is really unfortunate. But I think what's important is that the press corps, you can't be led by emotion. You can't get angry. You have a job to do, and you have to keep pressing and keep pressing. And you have to work with each other. John King, our colleague at CNN, often said, you know, when we would talk about questions to ask, it's important that we feed off of each other instead of just play for ourselves. We have to be listening and work as a group.”

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26. “So, I think I'd have a really hard time. I really do. I think I'd have a hard time covering this White House because I think they're unserious people in many regards. And I think they've done things that show a lack of integrity. But they are doing the job and you're covering the institution. You're covering the presidency. And you have to respect the presidency. I'll never forget Fournier, run Fournier again, first pool spray we had in the cabinet room and he looked at President Bush on his first day and he said, welcome to the White House. And Bush said, thanks very much. But what I loved about Fournier doing that, not in an arrogant way, it was just a reminder, this is the people's house. I felt that.”

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27. “No, no, no. No, but I think I did, I mean, I think I was kind of immature at times covering the White House, especially in the briefing room, and that I would really get angry. And instead of kind of recognizing, okay, this person's got this job to do. And I mean, the truth is I fought a lot harder with R.A. Fleischer, and I would sometimes slip him notes saying, I'm sorry, I was too obnoxious. But, you know, I think I was always fair. But in those moments, I got pretty hot. And in that one, I remember my wife's like, you know, you just shouldn't talk to anybody like that. You just shouldn't do that. And I was on Meet the Pres and we were talking about that. And I apologized.”

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28. “Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, the cameras are off. And I always say to people, if you think I'm really obnoxious and annoying and have a bad temper, I mean, at least give me credit for the fact that I did it when the cameras were off. But, you know, but the truth is that I struggle with my temper anyway, just as a human being and as a father, and it's not something I'm proud of.”

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29. “Right. So this was in a gaggle, right? If they still have the gaggle Right. And the issue had to do with, I think, support for Brown, you know, who was the FEMA director at the time. So I believe this was around Hurricane Katrina. I believe it was something around that. But anyway, it was this question of do you still have confidence in someone? And he was really giving me a hard time. And I said, don't be a jerk to me just because you don't want to answer this. So that kind of took off. And Fox News especially went off.”

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30. “I was watching the morning shows, the today's show, and I was really kind of losing my emotions, you know, losing control of my emotions. And my friend Ron Fournier, who you remember well from Associated Press at the time when he covered the White House with me, and he said, once you get up there, you'll get your game face on and you'll be fine. But, you know, it's hard if you weren't there to remember how painful it was and traumatizing it was. And then to kind of jump into the The coverage of something that was moving so quickly and to also be able to still hold the White House accountable and get into something of a debate in the run up to what was the war in Afghanistan and Iraq, it was a very intense time.”

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31. “Well, I think my first recollection was, you know, just the shock of it. I was on the phone with Beth actually when the second tower hit and my producer Antoine Sanfuente said Second Tower has been hit. You know, we've got to figure out how to get on the air. It was, you know, this is relatively unimportant, but at the moment what you care about is how to get the story out. And we had some inability to do that because we were part of the traveling press pool and so forth. And then we ended up getting stuck there that first night. And I remember thinking, you know, this is bigger than me. This is a national tragedy. And we'll get back into it. And we did. And we got up to Washington. And then I was with him on September 14th down at Ground Zero. I was the only television correspondent then. I remember two things, David. I guess one, I was incredibly moved emotionally by it and was actually having a hard time. The day that I was going up with the president on September 14th.”

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32. “Well, I mean, it was fascinating. I think I felt. I guess the question of morality and politics as well became an issue. But it was interesting to be around to get some up close look at how the Clinton White House operated. I was not somebody who, you know, I didn't have a lot of inside access. I was a little bit more on the outside, but I was getting a sense of what a generation of reporters were dealing with with the Clintons. And then I pivoted and I started covering Bush and covering the Bush years. And it was interesting, I think, to start covering a political figure like Bush who pivots off of those years in a way where he positions himself as someone who you may like or dislike his politics, but who was in a restored dictionary.”

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33. “And Johnny Cochrane was a great politician. I used to mimic him all the time and I would do it for him and he would love it. He'd be like, who am I? I'm OJ Simpson in a hat. I'm not trying to kill anybody. But he would come down. He would come down into the morning gauntlet of reporters, and he was so astute at not only being charming and kind of casting in a way that any good media, you know, specialist, he would also not answer any questions he didn't want to answer. I would always tell people like, here's my best media advice is when you get lots of questions, only answer the ones you want to answer. Well, he had plenty of questions.”

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34. “I thought that was quite a moment. And obviously it didn't take a legal genius to figure that out. But it was an observation I was able to make in real time. And I did learn a lot. I learned a lot from that case and have thought a lot and talked a lot about that case in the years that have gone on. And I thought the piece that was done by ESPN was so important because as many people felt that the verdict was a total injustice, and I totally believe that. I think he was 100% guilty. You know, we have to look around and absorb the fact that how many African American families have had to live with broken justice and had to eat it. And this was jury nullification the other way. And the prosecution made a lot of mistakes.”

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35. “Yes, I was looking at the jury, but more importantly, after the break, they took a break and they came out to kind of adjourn for the day. And there were two women in the back row of the jury who were kind of laughing, kind of giggling to each other. And I thought, you know, this was an incredibly important moment. The accused murderer tried on the murderer's glove. Had they fit and had they been persuasive? I know these jurors would have been laughing.”

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36. “Yeah, so the affiliates local affiliates? Yeah, exactly. So the affiliates have that division, and I was there. I was in Sacramento, and then I got dispatched to do it and, you know, to go back home to Los Angeles and cover that. And so I was there. I happened to be there when he tried on the Bloody Glove, by the way, in the courtroom, which was quite a moment.”

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37. “Well, somebody's got to come to him and say, look, you're either going to be a guy who crests in the 30s of public approval or you're going to try to go bigger. The thing I do believe about Donald Trump, the New Yorker had a piece about how China is playing, you know, how they're interacting with President Trump and how they understand that what he cares about more than anything else is jobs and that he does want to win. And I think he wants to win big deals. I think he's so post-ideological in that sense. He just wants to be a winner.”

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38. “And oddly, I keep thinking that Donald Trump is so mercurial that he could be a guy to actually stand up to that, even as he holds some of those views. So crazily, I think a big deal.”

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39. “He was, and if it were not, I mean, his first foreign trip was to Mexico to meet with Vicenti Fox. And I remember that was a day when Rocky Plains went into the US no-fly zone and he talked about keeping Saddam in his box. And then 9-11 happened, and it was gone. Poof, there was no way he was going to get it. And when he returned to it later on, he was too damaged politically. And then his own party started to demagogue this issue. And I have to tell you, I mean, I feel very strongly about this because just I think as a matter of fact and good policy, the demagoguery and the scaremongering that Republicans are engaged in around immigration back in 06 and 07, the specter of terrorists coming through our southern border, well, it hasn't happened. And it was wrong then, and it's wrong now. And we're seeing this kind of return to it. And it's a shame.”

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40. “And I think a lot about President George W. Bush, who I covered and I thought really got immigration right. And as a matter of fact, today I was on Twitter and I was pushing back against R.E. Fleischer, who was Bush's press secretary a little bit, who now supports the idea of a wall. And I said, well, I respect your views, but George W. Bush would not have supported a wall because it was inconsistent with his values, which included that family values don't end at the Rio Grande. And so what I think George Bush, Governor Bush, of Texas understood about border issues, security issues he also understood that a politics of blaming others, of blaming Mexicans for job losses, of raising the specter of fear from immigrants and refugees was wrong. And I think, you know, he was voting.”

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41. “Yeah, it was a big story. I came in, yes. I mean, I wasn't primarily covering that, but I was definitely around. It's interesting.”

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42. “And once you do that, how do you make things unfair, inappropriate? There's just so much that can go wrong. And I think that that's a conversation that's starting to happen appropriately. And there may be cases too where it's now gone over the line and that's going to happen. But it doesn't mean that the issue isn't real and really important.”

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43. “I think it's a really positive thing to think about, you know, what are the appropriate boundaries of any relationship and how to keep, you're never going to keep dating and relationships out of the workplace, but you also have to really think about what does it mean to sexualize the workplace. Right.”

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44. “Look, I think it's a huge deal. I think was I surprised about me? Yeah, Matt, yeah, I was surprised by some of the details of what was going on. You know, I definitely heard things about, you know, certain things that he might do, but nothing that would have been abusive in this way or exploitive in this way or harassing in this way. So I was surprised about that. And I think that it's a conversation that men don't generally tend to be engaged in. And that's not right. You know what I mean? There ought to be a culture where men are checking each other and not kind of looking the other way. But this is not something that I think, in my experience, a lot of men are talking about, you know, around the office. Even if women are and they know, oh, well, this guy is doing X and this guy is doing Y.”

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45. “As a result of that, as a place, you know, where people, but what you see, the business has contracted. There's nobody who's commanding those kinds of audiences. It's getting spread apart and communities become important. So Rachel Madow has an incredibly strong community and viewership. It doesn't have to be 22 million people to be A really lucrative and really important for the national conversation.”

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46. “Right, because the machines created them to be that. And the way they created Tom and Dan and Peter is they poured tremendous resources into those broadcasts, into traveling them around the world. And they dedicated assets to making sure they could go get big interviews. They paid for bookers to be with them. So they were doing things that only they could do. You think of some of the great correspondents of the networks, Martin Fletcher at NBC, Bob Simon at CBS, Scott Pelly at CBS, not just at 60 minutes, but when they were on those network newscasts, they were doing things that were really special. The machine is not dedicating that kind of money anymore. And the last time we saw that, frankly, it went away with Matt Lauer. Matt Lauer was making Clayton Kirkshaw kind of money and was holding a lot together.”

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47. “Because of Tom Brokaw, the whole culture was built that way. It's totally not that way anymore. The morning shows have for a long time made all of the money. The Sunday shows, you know, I think when I was there were experiencing a real decline. I think they have held their own now because of this Trump era. But the networks just don't have the resources and the culture has changed so that nobody feels like those shows are driving the agenda in the way that Twitter will or Axios might or CNN will. I mean, it's just”

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48. “Covers the whole world essentially. It's amazing. BS had all of these bureaus. They shut those down. CNN, of course, has a huge global imprint, but at the moment it's still so focused domestically. So there simply aren't the resources. Those evening programs lose money. That used to be acceptable. Then, you know, they were still kind of a lost leader, but they were culturally, everything revolved. The day revolved around what nightly news wanted.”

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49. “Right, a population. And the truth is they don't have the resources to pour into it like they used to. You don't have foreign bureaus the way you used to. At NBC, they still have, I think, Richard Engel, who's a terrific correspondent who covers all.”

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50. “Absolutely No, because The networks have totally changed. I mean, I'm not saying this just because I'm no longer the network at CNN, but the center of gravity has inalterably moved away from the networks over to cable news, and that is because obviously viewing habits have changed, that's been going on for a long time. And appointment viewing has changed. So, you know, the evening news programs are reaching a much older sedentary. All you have to do is look at the”

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