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  1. And so I think, yeah, all right, I'll take that. That's good. I'm proud of that. I'm very proud of that. And that's as far as it goes. Let's get lunch.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. We'll go down this road, and she'll say, Think about this. 30 years, 30 plus years, you've given jobs to all these people.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. Well, I don't know. I'll need counsel to finish this. I don't know what to say. Regina and I have this conversation from time to time. And the thing, here's what I've taken away from this with Regina.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. Make you more compassionate. Yep, because I always thought, oh, you're depressed. Go do some push ups. You'll feel much better. But it's not that

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. Yes And then somebody told me, they said, You know what? We're given these chemicals, these serotonins and whatever else, dopamine and so forth, because if we didn't have them, the world would scare the crap out of us.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. Well, as funny as you can when you're depressed, but it's a sinkhole. And people who have gone through it know exactly what I'm talking about. It's a sinkhole. And you think you're not coming out of it. You really think you're not coming out of it I was amazed by it. I was amazed by the chemical mechanism in your brain that can just drop you like that. I mean, just really drop that.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. I never knew what depression was. I knew what I'm kind of sad today. Oh, I'm kind of blue today. Oh, geez, the reds lost. I knew that. This, I'm telling you, is you get on an elevator and the bottom drops out. And you can't stand looking at the sunlight. You can't wait to get back in bed at night. You're shaking. You're shivering. And I went through this for about six months. And oh my God.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. But there's no turning that off, and it exists today, and it'll exist till the day I drop dead. By the way, I'm having chest pains now.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. So everybody goes through that, but it happens. That switch is thrown and the window opens up in your heart and the sun shines in. And I know that's corny.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. No, you're not making it up, and I feel stupid talking about it because how many people are there on the planet? Seven billion? Yes.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. Well, I'm more than embarrassed, and I'll bet if I had the courage to go look at that videotape, it would sicken me, and I'm sorry. I'm very sorry.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. You don't even have to apologize. It never registered to me that that would be offensive, nor do I remember the episode. You don't. People have speculated.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. Yeah, I said. I said, oh no, I didn't even get beyond hello when I've pissed her off. So then I said, Oprah, we're doing. Chicago. We would love for you to be on the show. I am totally out of town. I am totally out of town. And so that's what, in my mind, that's where it was.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. You know, I think it was one time we were coming to do the show in Chicago, and I called you, I'll never forget this, I got you on the phone. You barked at me and you said, Oh, well, the least you could have done was call me on a hard line. So I thought, oh, I barked you.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. No, I did for a while. You did because it was great for me. When I would bait you about coming on the show. Oh, big laughs, everybody. Oh, you would be too difficult.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. But I did have to call and apologize to poor Paris Hilton because she says, I'll talk about anything but being in jail. And I said, well, that's all I want to talk about. And so we ran it two or three questions deep, and now she starts to do this. And I thought, oh, God, here we go. So I called and apologized to her. And that's just scratching the surface.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. I'll tell you why I apologize. I felt like Sarah Palin was somebody I wanted to continue to be able to make fun of. And I felt like if I don't apologize, if I don't sincerely express my regret, I will not be able to go forward making fun of her. And truly, I felt bad for the 14-year-old. That was just like, oh, nice going. You got the wrong daughter. That was just dumb lustup that fell into dumb luck and got worse.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  18. I thought I made Justin Bieber cry, and I felt bad about that, but I don't think I did. The kid can take a punch. I like the kid. He's really pretty good. But if something happened, I didn't even know what it was. And I thought, oh, geez, maybe, you forget that they're only 16. You forget that they're a little 18.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  19. Oh, I loved it. I just loved it. And I got such a kick out of him because I thought this is great. You're willing to ruin your career, to come out here and pretend this, and I get to be a part of it.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  20. That's what everybody wants to know. Are you in on the job? I knew there was a joke, but I was not in on it. And once I looked at him, then I realized all bets are off. Let's go to work because it couldn't possibly be real.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  21. They said, look out Joaquin Phoenix and his buddy Ben Affleck or Ben Affleck's brother, who's his brother Larry, Jerry Van Affleck. I don't know. They're doing a thing, and good luck. And so I knew when he came out, I just thought, well, this is like a light workout on the speed bang.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  22. Well, like when Joaquin Phoenix comes on. And, you know, I look at him and I know he knows that I know that it's Halloween, that none of this is real.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  23. I don't mean to be mean, but I became very mindful of that and Tried to cut back on it, but if it's laying right there, you got to take a shot. You know, I mean, you can't let it go.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  24. No, I don't have that luxury. I have to figure out what I did, why I did it, and live with it. But I can't forgive that behavior. Like I said, I'm at the top of the flow chart. It's my fault. Everything. But anything that pushes you in the right direction can't be such a bad thing, right?

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  25. Absolutely. Absolutely. We went through this together. We have that in common. And I'm telling you, it's great. My life is fun and full of joy now that I only pretended at before. So, how about that?

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  26. That's what I'm still doing. I'm still doing it each and every day in big ways and small ways and get the reward of the nature of a relationship I never experienced before in my life, nor did I ever think was possible.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  27. You make it better. I'm still trying to fix it. It hasn't gone away. It'll never go away. She's been tremendous. She's got great courage. She's greatly intelligent. How did you?

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  28. Well, it was, you know, I had friends that I talked to about it, but I don't know what my choices were. You pretend that it's not happening?

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  29. Yeah, it was tough. It was tough. But I will tell you something that in the back of my mind, this gives you an idea of the extent, the breadth and width of what a weasel I could be. I was thinking, maybe I can make this little sympathy out of this deal here. Will you? Yeah. I think I was probably hoping that. Rather than being the actual... The one who was guilty. I thought maybe I could generate some sympathy. So it's just awful. So tell me.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  30. Yeah, I still think if you're going to have a flow chart of the responsibility for this circumstance, this sex scandal. My name's at the top. I'm not sure what it means, but I'm taking responsibility for it. I'm trying to atone for it. And in atoning for it, you eliminate that behavior and apologize to the people you hurt. Going forward, there's not much more you can do

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  31. And so far, it's been great. Things have been great. I heard a lot of people, I have nobody to blame but myself, I'm not looking to blame anybody. I'm looking to find out why I behave the way I behaved.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  32. Did not make it and have no one to blame but myself. And now I feel better about myself, my relationship with my wife is never better. And it's just because I want to be the person I always thought I was and probably was pretending I was.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  33. I believed I was a good person, but yet I was capable of behavior inconsistent with somebody who is a good person. And you can't eradicate the record, but going forward, you can not be that way again. So that's what I've been working on.

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  34. But yet, thinking that I was a decent guy, I was still capable of behavior that wasn't coincidental to living a decent life. And then that's what I'm working on. I want to really be the person I believe that I was. I want to be a good person.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  35. Oh, all the time. I think all the time I can remember as a kid showing off and having the rug pulled out from under me numerous times. And that stays with you. I have a very low threshold of embarrassment. And that's just the way I am. And I don't know that there's a cure for that. But I think that's a good thing.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  36. Years and years and years. Was that awkward for you? No, it was great because as he and I discussed then Our way of life at the comedy store. Is exactly the way you would think it would be for a group of comics. It was tinged with sarcasm and ugliness and insult, but everybody loved it. We thrived on it. We could call each other names. We could steal each other's jokes. We could make fun of each other's girlfriends and this and that and this and that. You take that out of the comedy store and all of a sudden, oh my God, it's civil war. We can't believe it. But the truth of it is the way Jay and I have behaved toward each other is the way comics tend to behave toward one another.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  37. I think so. I think so because I got too much on him. When he and I were kids and somebody would go on like the Mirror of Griffin Show. And if you didn't do well, Jay would come. Hey, did you see Larry on the Movie show? No, I didn't. You know, I got a tape back at that. Come on back, we'll take a look at it. And he would invite you back to watch one of our fellow comics bomb. And it was just like, oh, Jay, stop that.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  38. Well, how it manifests itself? And that's all I want to say about that because I just tell you this, when we were all kids, And I do still think Jay and I are friends.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  39. Not to the degree this man is. This is the guy that has documented as hiding in a closet while they were having a business meeting at NBC to decide who would get the tonight show chair. I'm not hidden in closets, not for that purpose.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  40. Jay and I were friends. We were always friends before all of this happened. He has a way, he's an unusual fellow. I've never met anyone quite like Jay. And I will say, and I'm happy to say, that I think is the funniest guy I've ever known. Just flat out, if you go to see him do his nightclub act, just the funniest, the smartest, wonderful observations and very appealing as a comic. Therefore, the fact that he is also maybe the most insecure person I have ever known, I could never reconcile that. You're the best. Why are you doing things to support this insecurity? Everybody thinks you're in the best.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  41. They had reached out to me. But I understand that what they wanted was completely self-serving. They wanted to continue to maintain the show so that they could make a lot of money. Now what NBC wanted turned out to be something different. So I really can't complain about that. You can't force somebody to want you.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  42. Subconscious, I had a meeting, and they said, we want you to take Johnny's job. And here's how we're going to do it. We just want to make sure that you're interested in this. And then we're going to call the so-and-so, and then we think that it'll be a combination where you start filling in and then eventually Johnny goes up. They had this conversation. We had two meetings, and I finally said, This is great. I said, have you mentioned this to Johnny? And they said, well, no, we haven't mentioned this to Johnny. And I said, well, I can't have this conversation until I know.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  43. I remember the interns, we have so many of them, and it's always, you know, hi, Bob, hi Kenny, and we haven't had a Bob or a Kenny work for us ever. And so now they can go around and say, so the first day I meet him, he's calling me Kenny.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  44. I think there's a group of people that I have worked with for 30 years who I'm very, very, very comfortable with. Around whom my behavior seems It's just Dave. You bring an intern in who doesn't know what's going on, and they got stories for the rest of their life.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  45. He doesn't like me. Because I always felt like a pretender because I never wanted to disappoint him. I just thought if I say something stupid.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  46. Well, he was very sweet to me. He would invite me to his house. We would go out to dinner. But I was always nervous. I couldn't relax around him. And because I knew that Johnny had a love-hate relationship with alcohol. And a couple of times we'd be out to dinner and I saw him go to the vodka. And then you could just see a little edge kind of appear. And I thought, I don't want to be around here if all of a sudden Johnny decides he's had enough of me.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  47. Yes, remember everything about it. And I did well, and I got to go sit with Johnny, and it was crazy, just crazy. And you get that surge of electricity that you think, God, if this doesn't dissipate, I won't be asleep till Labor Day, you know? I mean, it's like now I'm sitting next to Oprah Winfrey. Then I was sitting next to Johnny Carson. And we're not kidding around And I was lucky enough to get invited back and back and back. So that was good.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  48. Well, I worked right here at the radio station, the college station, WBST, I think, was the name of the college radio station. And when I worked at television in Indianapolis, they didn't like me, and I had to sit there.

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  49. Like I had a bunch of buddies and they were all funny. So it didn't seem like my father was the funny one. He was the lightning rod. He got all of the attention. He was funny. My grandfather was funny. But I never had the confidence to say to anybody, hey, look at this. I'm pretty funny because I never felt that way.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  50. And I sort of felt like, let's just wait till I drop dead. And then you can name whatever you want after me or name nothing after me. But it is now such an incredible source of pride for me. And it's one of the great things in my life.

    2020-09-09 · Oprah's Super Soul · David Letterman · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source