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Deborah Frances-White

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first: 2025-06-21
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“And Trump rang him and threatened him. And now it's off. He's taking from everybody. Mind you, not that I think we should shop at Amazon, but you know what I mean.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And what's underneath that, and what's underneath that? And we need to be asking questions and we need to be doing campaigns. We need to be in campaigns definitely to women about what's coming. Gilliad style campaigns, we definitely need to be doing that. But there's a lot of men in this country, fuck about that, wouldn't even know what the handmaid style was. They don't care about that. What do they care about? And what will reform take from them? Because I'll tell you it'll take something. Look at what's happening in America. Look at what they are taking from ordinary working people. Doesn't matter if you're the straightest, whitest bloke in America. Trump doesn't give a fuck about you. Do you see Jeff Bezos wanted to put the tariff price?”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then she'd start crying, she'll start crying. I mean, this is a made up example, sort of cobbled together, but she'll start crying and go, yeah, I'm lonely. And then her husband will go, I didn't not stack the dishwasher to make you feel lonely. And it's really interesting to watch analysis. Now, I think we need to be doing analysis of people we think, how could they have arrived there, and of ourselves. What's underneath that? You want to push this big red button? You think there are too many refugees in your neighborhood? What's underneath that? You feel there's not enough for you.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The therapist would go, what's the emotion underneath that anger? And she goes, I was pissed off. And he goes, but what's underneath? She goes, I just feel alone in this. I'll do everything. I'm alone in this. And she goes, oh, so was the emotion loneliness. She goes, yeah, yeah, yeah. And when in your childhood or your formative years did you feel lonely? And she'll say something like, well, my mum worked and I would come home and I'd be alone after school and my dad wasn't there and blah, blah, blah, blah.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So interesting Have you guys seen this? So it's a New York therapist, and she's an analyst where they try and get down to what's going on inside. And so it's something like a man and a woman come in and there are a couple and she goes, oh. He's just, I'm so angry with him. I'm so pissed off because I come home from work and he's not to stack the dishwasher in, he's just hanging out next to the baby on his phone and he's not done anything.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I would like to do a campaign that says Nigel Farage said we didn't want to be ruled by Europe. And now he's asking us to be ruled by America. And I want video footage of those people at the White House going, praise the Lord, because I think a lot of people in this country will not like that. I want to appeal to their values. I don't want to pull the wool over their eyes. I want to say to them, do you know what this is? Because I think if they knew they would not want it and they would not vote for it And I think we have to ask the question so what I was asking as a political strategist is, how do we communicate with people we don't understand? We need to build cognitive empathy. Where are you? Have you seen couples therapy?”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Was America so great in the 50s for most people? You know, I don't think it was. But they're harking back to this nostalgia. Often what people are remembering is their childhoods when they had no responsibility and they just got to come home and eat toast and honey and watch Blue Peter. And they're thinking things were better then for you if you had a nice childhood. I think that's what they're thinking of. They play on nostalgia all the time. So one thing I'm thinking about, and this is just, I'm throwing this out to the group, is if we want reform voters to rethink what they're doing, because I think a lot of reform voters just want to press a big red button like Brexit. This has been shipped for me. I'm in a community. It's going to be completely defunded and devastated. Fuck it. This guy's different. He says he's going to do something different.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Thank you. It always means worse for some. I know my audience. But some people imagine it was better. Now, to be honest, I think, I don't think it was better for anyone really. People are harking back to like Britain in the 70s where there was a lot of cold and there was spam to eat. There was only two telechannels and there was nothing on. It wasn't a good time. Well, like watch Saturday Night Sunday morning. Watch any of those kind of gritty British movies. It was definitely a time of great wealth inequality. I'm sure if you were partial sitting around a stately home throwing your head back and laughing, there was some good times.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Who can make America great again? You can make America great again if you tick this box and then Donald Trump will do everything else. That's a long story. And then take back control. Three words. What does that imply? We did have control. We don't have control. We could have control again. Now I think what the writer doing have been really good at doing is playing to a nostalgia of a bygone age. Where things were better, things were somehow better. And as Margaret Atwood says in the handmaid's tale, Never means better for everyone”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Thank you. Great question. I went and talked to a political strategist this week to start asking questions, because something I thought the other day, and I sort of wish I'd put in the book really, but I just thought of it, is I was thinking about how brilliant the right are at telling stories politically, which pisses me off. Because we're the storytellers, David. We're the writers, the actors, the comedians, the songwriters who tell good stories. We've got all of the skills. But when it comes to politics, we just go, if you're not fully with us, you're against us, you're wrong. And I started thinking about this, and I started thinking about make America great again. Four words. Got a whole story in it. Make America great again. The story of that is America was great. America is not now great. America can be great again.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“While the far-right Christian nationalists have spent 13 years starting NGOs getting in, figuring out how to change laws, talking the talk, shaking the right hands, hiding their true agenda in Europe and in the United Kingdom. We have spent 13 years telling each other not to say spirit animals. What's happened”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Now, what we've taken our eye off is what we were protesting. Who were we protesting? I don't think it was Barbara. I don't think she's got a lot of power. I don't think Barbara can cancel DEI. And I don't think Barbara wants to. I don't think that's her thing at all. I don't think she can bring in anything. I think Barbara was on our team and said something crass. A couple of people told her that's Kras, and she went, Oh, sorry, that is a bit Kras. And then people kept going and going and going and going until the whole time has nothing to do with why we were protesting Trump. And it was all about Barbara and her bouncy castle. I am not seeing Barbara is the solution. Clearly not, but nor is she the main problem.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“A woman put out on social media, she made a comment. She says, this is the first protest I've ever been on. And I took my child and he was rather bored. I don't think it would have been too difficult to organise a bouncy castle. Now, the good people on threads have the same reaction you did. Thought that was terribly funny, and then a few people said that's not a protest for, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then, of course, there was a massive pylon. And then I realized that my whole timeline... People talking about Barbara the Bouncy Castle lady, if she's even a real person. She could absolutely be a right wing hand grenade. I think she probably was a real person.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think now that this country has seen America, Think people are starting to believe it. What we need is a space, a series of spaces and places. The thing that I want to start is a road to Gilliad. I want to start events. But you might want to start your own thing. And I think we all need to be doing what we're doing and working in coalition. And we need desperately at this time. I mean, absolutely you should criticize the party in power, but say, you know, I want the Labour Party to stand for Labour values. I'm not saying you shouldn't do that. I saw a couple of weekends ago these big anti Trump marches in America.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Educated there. The first time I read, don't quote me on this, but I look it up for yourself, but I read that this is the first time in this country for a very, very long time that there are more people going to Catholic churches than Church of England churches. But I'm not talking about if you're an everyday person who has a faith and wants to go and commune and be, you know, that's how you're raised, absolutely fine. It's when it's a rise that seems to be coming from the manosphere, the womanosphere, which is... In a largely secular country, I have a lot of questions.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Like on the UGOV poll, did I say this already? I said this already backstage. There's a UGov poll now saying 20% of young men are going to church and no problem with anyone going to church if that's what they want to do. But I was watching this film about saying, oh, they're being influenced by people like Jordan Peterson and Russell Brand. They're not going to church because, oh, they think it's meditative, or they've got a faith or anything. If you're listening at home, I keep looking up when I talk about God. I've seen now Instagram reels, young men standing behind, standing in front of an England flag going, I'm Church of England, I just want England to be England, I don't want it to be Muslim. The best way to control anyone is marshal them into a church because then you just say that same young guy who would have not had any thoughts about abortion except Shaw, if that's what people want, will then be educated there.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And the gender nonconforming people in this country, if we come together, we can stop the Gilead future of this country. I never thought I'd be saying this. That's mad, doesn't it? You see what's happening in this country now with women being prosecuted for abortions?”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think we have to say, I can't go out and say, I can't knock on the door of a disabled person and say, the Labour Party is great. Forget about What I have to say is the Labour Party have done something really terrible to you, and I'm so scared about what reform will do because it will be so much worse. And so, what I want to do is keep labor in, keep fighting for better. And I really hope out of the community we build through Road to Gilead and whatever else we're able to do, that something sparks up and someone does start a political party, I know how hard it is, I know how much money it takes, how much infrastructure. It's not something I can do. But what I feel I can do short term, I don't think I'm the right person, basically. I think the right person has to come, but I feel like... The women in this country”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They call them the anti-gender movement and vague gender just read women. It's not transgender, it's just like anti-anything like gender studies or anything with gender. It's just shorthand women. The anti-gender movement, this combination of Christian nationalist ethno-nationalists, and just people who are hungry for power. That is what they will do Labour Party won't do that. So we need to tell the Labour Party constantly what we want and we need to campaign saying the Labour Party is disappointed us and we need to be telling them mid and long term we want other, otherwise we need to build another party altogether that will serve our interests. And at the same time, we need to keep reform out and we need to keep the Tories out because they will go along with Kemi Badnok saying she will go along.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Will I will not be doing that? I will be saying, I've been very disappointed with the Labour Party, and if I had a better alternative, I'd be voting them in. But I don't think it's as simple as saying, well, what's the difference between David Cameron and Keir Starmer? Not much because they are not my options anymore. I believe that reform will make us the 51st state. I believe that I do not believe the Labour Party will take away a woman's right to choose or another pregnant person's right to choose. I do not believe the Labour Party will take Italy if you are someone I was talking to the other day her wife and she have children and she said in Italy right now my name would be taken off the birth certificate.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, look, I sit here as you do between a really rocky rock in an impossible place. Yeah. We need to be telling the Labour Party all the time this is not what we voted for, this is not good enough. We need to be fighting with our MPs. We need to be rising up. And we need to be making sure reforms stay out.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“America every day now. He's bringing a martial law. He's giving, did you see today? He's giving the police army equipment and saying basically the rule of law is gone.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We cannot let reform in. I know we don't have much of an alternative, but in the short term, in the long term, we should be thinking about alternatives. But in the short term, keep reform out at all costs. And the Tories look like they're going to go into coalition with reform. So in the short term, I know it's going to be a bitter pill to swallow. A lot of people didn't want to vote for Carmena Harris for very good reasons. There is either Terrible party that you can talk to. You can fight with, or there is the end of the world. Doesn't mean we should be happy with this, we should be building mid and long term options. Of course, we should. We should be telling Labour this isn't good enough. In the next election, we will be choosing our opponent. We will not be choosing our ally. None exists.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I am compelled to do something. If I'm being totally honest with you, I haven't said this to any audience, but at the 10-year mark, which is this December, I was hoping to wrap up the guilty feminist and go and write novels for a bit and just, I felt burnt out, and I thought, I'm just going to take a little time, come back to it, you know, maybe do a few events a year. And now I'm like, oh no. So, if you were interested in the road to Gilead and the movement around that, and also how it can appeal under a totally different name to right-wing voters, to reform voters. If reform get in, we will be the 51st state.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Are in subjection to men. That was the Jehovah's Witness line. Men are the head of the house. It is God's natural order. We are in the flashback to the handmaid's tale. That's what we are in. Trans writes to them at the tip of the iceberg. Our rights are so linked, and it's not going to be great for men either. They think men's natural state is at war at the deep heart of this. I mean, obviously it'll be a lot better for men than it will be for women and it will be better for femme women like me than it will be for butch women and so on and so on and it will be better for everyone and it will be for trans people, it will be terrible for disabled people.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But now they're in Neil says they don't really care about trans people, it's so few trans people. He said to them all LGBTQ people are against God and nature. Got away with that one. So he said they don't see a difference between trans people and gay people at all. This is their starting place. And you see what's happening in America, women's voting rights disrupted. A lot of people outright saying now there should be one vote per household. Paula White, the Trump's faith czar, is now in the White House doing with all these people, you see it all the time now, they're in the White House, hands in the air, Jesus, Jesus closing their eyes, in the White House, which is meant to be a separation of church and state. And she's saying, I heard her into a microphone the other day saying, women...”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And he said, but that had always been there, but it had been mild. You've never heard about it because it was mild. And they knew that was a disagreement point, and they went in for that. And he said that they started getting influential, they hired lawyers, they started working out how do you change a law, how do you get close to the right MPs, they moved to cities where decisions were made like Brussels, they started NGOs. They got super, super strategic. This correlator, this is totally invented. It's a wedge issue, but now they're in, now they're changing laws. We saw it just happen. Now, the people that they've gone into coalition with, many of them have no idea Christian nationalists behind this. I'm not saying that every gender-critical person Knows that this is tied to Christian nationalists. Most of them don't. It's strategic.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And Time magazine had the new Frontier for Trans rights with the Vern Cox in the front. What happened? What happened? What happened? And I found Neil and he said, and he's not a Trans rights guy. He wants trans people to have rights, but that's not his thing. He doesn't say women and other people who can get pregnant like I do. He doesn't say people with vaginas. He's a reproductive rights guy. And he said there's always been a mild disagreement back to the 60s about whether trans people that was queer rights or feminist rights. But he said we know this is in the book as well in 60s some people didn't want lesbians in the movement.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And this is what set me off to find out about this. I thought, I don't remember anyone saying anything, and I don't remember feeling anxious watching it, thinking, oh my God, everyone's going to be saying things. And I went back, because she had a beauty parlour, and she was unsupervised touching women, doing their hair and all that. No one said a word. And I went back not only could I not find any social media action about it, the Daily Mail was positive about it. saying, oh, look at all these beautiful women as orange black women doing some kind of glamour shoot. She was at the front because she was the star of this particular shoot. And the comments on the Daily Mail were positive. And I went, what the fuck? And I saw Theresa May was saying we need gender recognition, no transphobia in this country. She was speaking up at the kind of pink awards or something. I was like, what the fuck happened? How did this happen?”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In Europe, of course, where there's little to no access to abortion, so that was his job, and it turned at this point. Do you remember in 2014, Orange and El Black came out? And Laverne Cox was playing a trans woman in a woman's prison.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“One of the things that they came up with was trans rights. And so I had a man called Neil Datta who came over for a show I did at the Bloomsbury. Was anyone there with that? Is that why you're here now? Yep. So sorry if any of these are repetitive. We've actually talked about a lot of things we didn't talk about there because it was all about Krishna Nationals there. This bit's going to be repetitive, but I think it bears hearing again because you can't hear this horror show enough times. You can't believe even what you're hearing. But they said trans rights because way back to the 60s. So Neil Data, who's the head of the European Parliamentary Forum for Reproductive and Sexual Rights, is an expert in this because his job up until around this time was just making sure people had contraception, cervical smears, access to terminations if they wanted them. That was his job. And all the European MPs getting them together to talk about this. And the country.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Thank you. Yes, equal marriage came in in the United Kingdom and in France. And I think the attitude was basically look, when it's Scandinavia, I mean, the Danes will marry a chair. I mean, they do all sorts there. It's just on for young and old. What won't they do? But that's different when it's the United Kingdom with the Queen, when it's France, the bastion of Europe, we're losing. And I said, well, If we come in with no abortion rights and no gay rights, we'll be laughed out as crackpods. So they asked the question, what do feminists already disagree on?”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's always a good time for me to talk about the Christian nationalists. So, in 2013 Christian nationalists in America, the kind of people who stand out the front of abortions clinics screaming. Just went, we're losing. We got to do something. And they came over to London and they had an underground conference, which now is not underground anymore known about. And said, we are losing globally, we have to do something. We want a world of family values. We want a world in which a heteronormative couple or heterosexual couple raise as many children as possible. We do not want contraception. We do not want abortion. That was sort of the world that they were seeing. Obviously, the vision of that family is white. Do you know what made them think they were losing? Does anyone remember what happened around that time, 2013?”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Society has been taught over and over through story and representation to be scared of something. Society's amygdala starts to rest when it sees enough representation. Demonstrates otherwise. And some people go they shouldn't need to. I know, but whatever we need to do right now. Need to do We can no longer be like, but people shouldn't, but yeah, I know, but people are awful. But they shouldn't need, they should be better than that. They should just be empathetic, but they're not. So we just got to do what we got to do, guys. We've got to start thinking strategically.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But it's just kind of wears people down that if they've been taught to be fearful. And the assumption is because of what they've been seen in the media or in family folklore, community jokes, it's like, oh, gay men, they're likely to be predatorial, they're likely to be a feat, they're likely to be all these things. If you keep on seeing something that comes into your home every week and you realize that These gay men are just worried about how much they could lift in the gym and whether they're going bald or what time they've forgot to pick their kid up from school like we are. If they suddenly go, oh, and that fear, the amygdala goes down. And I call it society's amygdala.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I know, absolutely, but I'm talking about men who say that, not you, not you, but I'm sure you're highly desirable to your gay audience. I can only assume. Do you have a lot of game fans? Yes”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Far cloads of outright 80s, outright homophobia, but then it got into that era of kind of just gay panic, like in friends, sort of like it would be like, oh, someone would assume that Joey and Chandler were a couple and they're like, ooh, you know, or they hugged too much and then they'd go, oh beer, you know. Just a little bit gay panic. And it was, it's all a progression I remember Jerry Seinfeld and George Costanza used to go. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But when we're getting up to that point of at that point, men would be like, oh, I'll just be a bit worried that I don't mind what you do in your own time. Just don't shove it in my face. Just don't come. I don't want gay men in the changing room at the gym. They might be checking me out. You'd be lucky. Not you, David. I'm sure.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You might But you've got a point, and I've never thought of it before. If you put on A show with an extremely stereotypically attractive, very beautiful woman. With very large breasts. You put it on network television Who's going to tune in for that? Straight men and straight men who, like, you know, yeah, oh no, I'll watch this one with you, love. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't normally like your shows, but I do like this one. I do like this one. You know, this is quite a nice one. And then they just slowly getting seduced by this couple. Oh, he's quite funny, that Cam. He's quite funny. I do like that Mitch. No, no, no. No, they're nice boys. And over a period of time, because in the 90s, the noughties...”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I truly believed it changed a lot because it just seeps in. It's funny, it's on at nine o'clock. The kids like it. It was Sophia Vegara herself that, yeah, it was all we needed.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The book does say there's a lot of complicated factors at play. I don't want anyone thinking I think it was modern family alone that got a sequel marriage.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I really love the intelligent squared audience because I'm being fist bumped and they know they already know a lot of this clearly. I reckon if we lock the doors we could probably solve a good 10% of Britain's problems right here.”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Jehovah doesn't mind trans people. Jehovah made trans people. He's fine with it. Do you know of anything, I would say God must be non-binary”
2025-06-21 · Intelligence Squared · An Evening with Deborah Frances-White and David Tennant (Part Two) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT