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  1. My brother was healed. At six years I had a crisis, existential crisis, went on to become a doctor. But what happens? You go to medical school, the first thing you see is a corpse. You're supposed to understand life by dissecting a body. You know, it's the way we are trained. You started off by looking at a human being as an anatomical structure rather than a process in consciousness. So it took me a long time going through medical school, training, myself going through crises, smoking, addictive behavior, alcohol. I remember resuscitating a patient, putting a pacemaker, putting him on a respirator, and then going outside to smoke a cigarette. And then, you know, I... was disgusted with myself. I threw away my cigarette that evening I threw away the scotch. by decided that I don't want to understand who am I?

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  2. And they took him for cremation, brought his ashes back in a little jar about the size of this coffee cup or a little bigger. And one of my uncles said, what happened? Yesterday he was taking the kids to a carnival and today is a bunch of ashes. My little brother who later became the dean of education at Harvard Medical School, he was four years old. He started to lose his skin. His skin started peeling off. I went into a panic and you know my uncles took my brother to every physician. They couldn't find a diagnosis till somebody said You know he's missing his parents, he's feeling vulnerable, he's losing his skin shedding his skin because that's a metaphor for his vulnerability. He'll be fine when his parents come back and sure enough as soon as they came.

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  3. When you're healthy, not when you're in a crisis, not when somebody dies in your family, then everybody panics. I had a crisis in my life when I was six years old. My father was in England. He was training to be a cardiologist. I was living in my grandfather. And one day we got a telegram that my father had passed all his exams. He was now a fellow of the Royal College of Physicians, big deal in those days. We got a telegram my grandfather wanted to celebrate, so he took me and my little brother to a carnival, then to a movie. I even remember the movie, Alibaba and the forty thieves. And then we went to a fancy restaurant. And then in the middle of the night he died.

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  4. emotionals your emotional and physical environment, your social environment because we live as social beings. So if you have toxic relationships, it's going to cause physical toxicity. Then nutrition. We now know that food that causes inflammation refined, manufactured processed food with chemicals, antibiotics, hormones, insecticides, pesticides. It's poison. It's like putting poison agent orange in your body. So organic food, farm to table, maximum diversity of plant-based foods. Now we know a lot about micro. Ultimately, I think spiritual experience is very important because no matter what you do, no matter what you do, no matter how healthy you are, there is old age, there is infirmity, and there is death. So unless you face those right head on,

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  5. Number one two I think is any practice that quietens the mind meditation, reflection, contemplation sitting quietly watching your breath, etc Number three is exercise. Number four is mind body coordination as an' that's different than regular exercise. Yoga practice and martial arts breathing practices different part of your nervous system which is the parasympathetic nervous system which causes self-regulation in the body so it's not just exercise it's you know something that puts mind and body together even gymnastics or things like judo and martial arts but yoga is my practice then

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  6. Here are the daily habits. Number one is sleep. Now we know, by the way, that lack of sleep is the number one predictor of premature death from cardiovascular disease. Lack of sleep is also a predictor of Alzheimer's. Lack of sleep interferes with their creativity. Lack of sleep causes inflammation. So that's for sure.

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  7. But it was few luminaries. People romanticize even about this in India's spiritual country. Well, India's been violent forever. A few luminaries, the sages of the Upanishad, then we have romance around them. Greek culture, you know, OB, you know, the Greeks were the most civilized in the world. Well, yes, Socrates and Parmenides and Pythagoras, and I can name a few, but the rest of the country, even in those times, They had slavery, they had sexism, they had blood. He's the source of the Olympics where they used to sacrifice humans and we're still performing even in our days. We're still repeating that cycle with what you call cheerleaders, the virgin vestals of the past. We haven't changed actually much.

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  8. It starts a process we begin to ask ourselves. Who am I'd reflect on these questions every day. Who am I? What do I want? What is my purpose? What am I grateful for? And who am I without these constructs? It's a big mystery, right? Who you are. Ultimately you realize you're the awareness in which all experience happens. but you're not the experience. The experiences in time you are not in time. and that this requires a different kind of education. It's not part of our culture. It used to be part of cultures. You know, if you read Plato in the Republic and you'll see that this was part of every culture.

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  9. Some time every day. Be unoccupied, even spiritual pursuit is an occupation. So take a little bit, you know, what I think it was Kafka or somebody who said all of human problem, humanity's problems come from our inability to sit quietly and do nothing

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  10. Transcendence. There's no here's another thing. There's no system of thought. No system of thought, religion, philosophy or science that will get you. Into knowing true reality because systems of thought are just that systems of thought. What is it that gives rise to thought? That is what you want. No. And that's been the eternal quest in spiritual traditions. I'm not talking about religious dogma or ideology. You know, these days is very fashionable for people to say, I'm not religious, but I'm spiritual. It means the same thing. When you have a spiritual experience, number one, transcendence, you find your identity beyond space and time. Number two, emergence of platonic values like truth, goodness, beauty, harmony, named after Plato, or love, compassion, joy, equanimity, and number three, loss of the fear of death. That's Jesus, that's Mohammed, that's Rumi, that's Buddha.

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  11. People in near death experience, people with psychedelic experience, people with experiences, athletes, musical performers, any break from ordinary reality is ineffable. And healing actually. That's why the recent resurgence in psychedelics is very interesting because It takes you away from Your identity of being squeezed into the volume of a body in the span of a lifetime.

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  12. Your own creativity. You know, every moment you have a choice repeat the past or be a pioneer of creativity of the future. And that happens, by the way. It happens individually, it happens collectively. We change worldviews. The world is not flat anymore. The ground is not stationary anymore. The world is not material anymore. Every technology that you use is based on the new idea that the essential nature of the physical world is not physical. I could see you as you really are. I'd see a huge emptiness with a few scattered dots and spots and some random electrical discharges. And at the most fundamental level, there are no boundaries. Boundaries are perceptual. So when we experience the spiritual ecstasy which is ineffable. There are no boundaries. That's why

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  13. Creativity is a disruption in the algorithm. It's a discontinuity, fundamental creativity, not usual innovation like iPhone 13 instead of iPhone 12 with a better camera. That's not what creativity is. Creativity is a death and a resurrection. It's a death of context, meaning, relationship and story and a new meaning relationship and story whether that's fundamental creativity. That's Einstein coming up with the theory of relativity or the quantum physicists breaking every rule that we knew in Newtonian physics or a great piece of art Beethoven Swift. These are original creativity is a disruption in the algorithm.

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  14. Actually the opposite of that is creativity. Creativity is the opposite of determinism. If you don't want to be a biological robot or an algorithm, which is what we are now, we are biological algorithms, biological robots. And that's why part of our evolution, it's not something all animals. But the animals have an advantage. They live in the present moment. But you and I have an imagination that can see into the future, that can even look at death as the culmination of this life experience. We regret the past, we anticipate the future, we're never in the present, when the only place we are right now is the present. There is no way to escape it, but in our imagination we escape it. So the worst use of imagination is stress. The best use of imagination is

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  15. Following my avatar. So, we don't know who we are. You confused yourself with the av And the battle dissolved between Avatar's wanting importance.

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  16. It's not a mindset. It's a step in awareness The awareness of the mind is not the mind. Who is it that, or what is it that knows a thought? That is what you need to shift, do. Once you shift from The experience to the awareness in which the experience is happening. You're independent of it, and that's what actually those eight limbs of yoga are about. It's a process. A shift in identity we started with that a shift in identity. From your assumed self to your fundamental self, which is infinite, which is without cause, which is not subject to birth and death, which is spaceless, timeless, incomprehensible, infinite, irreducible, and fundamental

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  17. You grieve, which is a natural process, and it has a life cycle. You don't hold on to it. In fact, you embrace it. You embrace any time you recoil Deny resistance creates even more stress. So what we call stress is resistance to existence in the moment. If you don't resist experience in the moment, it's passing by.

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  18. So obviously you're scared, right? Because you identify with the experience, but everybody dies. I mean, trillions of people have died. You're not the only one who's going to die, and then what dies is another mystery. The body dies. The seeds of memory. because what is memory but its information. and it's recycled through collective consciousness. As soon as you're born, you're already born into an interpreted world, a world with memory, a world with imagination, a world with non local consciousness that is now localizing through your brain as this process that you call the body Body mind is a process in consciousness. Consciousness itself is not subject to time. Time is an experience we have. As soon as we have subject-object split. So as soon as there's subject object split, which is artificial in nature is a unified activity.

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  19. Recoiling from experiences that we interpret as unpleasant. But Sib once again the awareness of the experience is not the experience. So once you can observe the experience. Free of the experience. You don't identify with the experience. Oh, that's an interesting thought passing by the screen of my consciousness like a cloud in the sky. I'm not the cloud. I'm the sky. I'm not the play on the screen. I'm the screen.

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  20. Two most promising things in medical science, three or four, or one is what we call gene editing, CRISPR, so you'll be able to cut and paste genes the way you cut and paste emails. But that'll affect maybe 5, 6% of genetic determinism. The rest is lifestyle, epigenetics. So that's where we are in medical science. And with machine learning and artificial intelligence, I think we'll be able to predict disease and make it more everything will be more personalized, predictable, preventable in the future. We are talking about two different things right now. We are talking about biology. And we're talking about the hard problem of consciousness.

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  21. We are talking about two different things. We are talking about consciousness as a fundamental reality. Then we are talking about the instrument that we call the brain. Now, I should say to you, though, that what I'm saying is not necessarily accepted by mainstream science, but mainstream science cannot answer the hard problem of consciousness or where experience happens and is not interested. Right now,

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  22. Alzheimer's now we know is due to accumulation of a substance called amyloid in the brain. So about there are 40 genes that predispose you for Alzheimer's or which three are probably fully penetrant which means they predict the disease because that's genetic determinism. The rest are related to things like lack of sleep or inflammation or stress or a diet that causes inflammation or lack of unregulated biological rhythms, etc. So there are identifiable causes for Alzheimer's, but again, Alzheimer's is, and these neurological diseases, all diseases like that.

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  23. The brain is just like your CD said. What happens in the brain is called the neural correlates of experience. As I said earlier, there is no experience in the brain. That's where you can put a knife through it. The brain has no self awareness.

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  24. Is Shakespeare on your movie screen or your television set? Is actually anything you read in the book is the author in the book. You confuse the instrument with the user of the instrument, the fault of the instrument is not a reflection on the user of the instrument.

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  25. Now, where was that memory before I asked you the question? There's nowhere in the brain you can point out that memory was. But as soon as I ask you the question, the neural networks go fire. Where is the memory retrieved from? The only places consciousness, but consciousness can't be localized.

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  26. The people's descendants who were traumatized, they have diabetes because somewhere in their body there's a memory of famine, so they're holding on to carbohydrates, they have insulin resistance, etc. If you take a mouse and you expose it to a smell that it likes, for example lavender, and then you give it a mild electrical shock for seven generations the mice will be fearful of that particular smell. I've been to a cow farm in Hawaii where they used to have electrical wires as fences. Mild electrical shocks. Now they don't have the wires, but the descendants of those cows that were traumatized, they won't cross over that fence or they won't cross over where the border was. Another mystery where is memory? Most people, if you ask them where is memory they'll point to the brain. If I asked you what did you have for breakfast today?

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  27. And then we would identify with that. And actually, that epigenetically, by the way, that's intergenerational. Now we know that in the Holocaust, for example, during the invasion of the Netherlands by Nazi Germany, there was famine amongst the Jews. three generations, four generations after that,

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  28. You don't either attach yourself to it or you don't identify with it. It takes training. So, you know, and in the Rig Veda, let noble thoughts come to me from every side because your thoughts are not your production. Your thoughts are socially constructed and they recycle through you. And yet we identify with them. So number two is identifying with that which is ephemeral, transient, ungraspable. Number three.

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  29. Everything and nothing and actually you experience love. Love not as a sentiment but the ineffable interconnectedness with all that exists. People have those experiences with psychedelics these days or you can actually give somebody an experience like that with even we are. Because we are already in a V Number to clinging, grasping that which is ungraspable. Every experience is ungraspable. So the awareness of an experience is not the experience. The awareness of a thought is not a thought. The awareness of a thought is independent of the thought. If you identify with the awareness instead of the thought which is like a cloud going through the sky.

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  30. Once you get to these last three aspects of yoga, transcendence is the key. You find out who you are, the self which knows the self, not bamboozled by social.

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  31. We trajiggling on that. Then we also recoil from that if it's unpleasant. We confuse ourselves with our ego identity, which is socially induced, and we fear death. Those are the five causes of suffering. So wisdom tradition say you have to figure out what is reality. And when you figure out what is reality and you can't do that at 16 unless you have been groomed in wisdom traditions, you were groomed. For wis And that started what we call self-education, which is what yoga is, by the way. Yoga means union with the self. Misinterpretation of yoga is this just the physical postures. But the eight limbs of yoga are all intended to find your true self. So there are principles of social intelligence, emotional intelligence, physical posture, breathing techniques, withdrawal of the senses, focused awareness, meditation, transcendence

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  32. Even this experience, you know, if I ask You can't hold on to this experience. If I asked you what happened to your childhood, you say it's a dream. But if I asked you what happened last night, it's a dream. What happened to this morning is a dream. What happens to these words by the time you hear them, they don't exist.

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  33. You know We've reached a stage in our evolution where people don't ask these questions, they only know that they suffer and they want an immediate solution which is you know something like an antidepressant or whatever and that's what we've created with a materialistic interpretation of the universe Wisdom traditions tell us we suffer because in the eastern wisdom traditions we suffer five causes not knowing who we are number one not knowing the nature of reality No isolate itself, clinging and grasping at experience which is ephemeral experience is ephemeral, it's transient. You can't catch it.

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  34. intensity of what's happening in the world look what's happening in ukraine or right now what's happening in pakistan or what's happening in india or what's happening in korea look at any place in the world maybe you leave a few places like new zealand or you know bali or a couple of places like that but the rest of the world is is actually extreme turmoil so we have medieval minds and modern capacities now that is not a good combination a medieval mind restricted to a little area in medieval times caused havoc there but now globally that medieval mind that tribal mind and our modern capacities it's a terrible combination

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  35. It's been our revolution since hunter gatherer times, and it got worse in the industrial age, and then I think it got even worse with the wars, the First World War, Second World War. But if you read history, the history is one of violence ever since human beings have existed. Other species are violent too, but not in the way we are for power or for money or for this idea of extreme nationalism, which is a form of tribalism, in my opinion, or the whole history of colonialism is just that. Now we've reached a point with the information. where it's kind of Nothing is secret anymore, and yet

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  36. thirty five forty years ago if we had something that could actually collectively shift consciousness and actually I was one of the founders of an association called Alliance for a New Humanity. We had people from civil society, lawyers, attorneys, people from the United Nations with this idea that we could reach a critical mass of people for a more peaceful just sustainable, healthier and joyful world. But even the organization faltered because there was schism within the organization. People again power mongering and fighting within the organization for dominance or leadership in a very selfish way. So, the organization faltered. It didn't go anywhere. I decided to continue on my own.

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  37. That inter arise in the interis there's no isolated self, and that isolated fearful self has created the trauma that we see in the world that actually manifests us war, terrorism, eco destruction, greed, leaders who are only interested in powermongering, influence peddling, cronyism, corruption, and their own self interest. So we've created a world that's actually very dangerous right now. I thought in my naive day about

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  38. Remember the memory of trauma hostilities the desire to get even, anxieties the anticipation of trauma again in the future. Blaming yourself is guilt and guilt leads to humiliation, humiliation and the combination of everything I've said leads to depression, which is the number one pandemic of our time, not COVID, depression, stress, hostility, resentment that causes inflammation. So, you know, suddenly I had this idea that if we went back to some of the wisdom traditions of the world that said our essential nature is As the Buddhists say interingness, we are famous statement of Tikhnatan.

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  39. Mentioned Eurositis Where's the mind? They'll point to their brain, but the brain only has the neural correlates of the mind. The mind itself you can't localize. It's both embodied. It's a relational and embodied process. So, you know, the mind doesn't exist by itself. It exists in relationship to other minds. So it's relational and embodied in the brain, but in your biology, and it regulates the flow of energy and information in our bodies and in the ecosystem of relationships. Identity, fundamental identity, which is That of the separate self. Which is a socially induced hallucination in my opinion because the separate self doesn't exist. Period. But that Hallucination or that idea of the separate self creates anxiety. It also creates anger because of trauma in the past. So anger is nothing but torture.

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  40. I remember giving that nearest to a patient and then immediately realizing that I'd made a mistake, I was reading the wrong chart. So I immediately apologized and I saw his biology change in a moment. And now, you know, forty years later we realize that every experience you have, every experience, doesn't matter what the experience is. but it could be food, it could be sleep, it could be exercised, it could be. Breathing a yoga parade now this conversation. We're having this conversation and you and I are exchanging information. Our frontal cortex of the brain, and genes are going on to facilitate the neural networks of Make this happen, but then there are people listening to us maybe hundreds of thousands, their brains are being activated. So I realize that, you know, you couldn't localize the mind. If you ask a neuroscientist,

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  41. I trained in internal medicine and then endocrinology, which is study of hormones. And then I went on to study neuroscience and neuroendocrinology. I saw the relationship between what happens in our consciousness and particularly emotions and how that affects our biology. As a physician, I was a Always impressed by how giving information to a patient affected their metabolism You know if I told somebody he had cancer just the word cancer you could see immediately their blood pressure go up, their heart rate speed up, their platelets get sticky. And a whole cascade of events in their biology, which was essentially inflammation and propensity to disease, just hearing bad news and interpreting it and having an emotional response to it.

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  42. The last thirty five years I have used our non-profit foundation, Chopra Foundation with Mission statement of reaching a critical mass of people, in my mind a billion people for personal and social transformation. A more peaceful, just sustainable, healthier, and joyful world. So those were very carefully chosen, peaceful, sustainable, healthier. So, everything is under that umbrella.

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  43. War, greed, stress, management come from our inability to sit quietly and do nothing. We are always doing doing. We have human doings. We are not human beings anymore. Take some time every day to be unoccupied. Ask yourself, who am I or do I want and what is my purpose? People don't ask these questions. They only know that they suffer and they want an immediate solution which is, you know, something like an antidepressant. And that's what we've created. Every experience shapes our biology. When you look at the situation, do you see an adversity or an opportunity? How is this determined by your childhood? If your parents were complaining, condemning, criticizing, playing the victim, you will see every situation as an adversity. Can be changed? Yes. There are actually many studies on what is called the happiness equation. Number one is

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