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Devon Franklin

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  1. I have a couple answers to that I feel very much at home on set. You know, very much, you know, like, okay, this is good, you know, watch him where the shots go up and all of that. I feel very at home in a pulpit. You know, I feel very at home preaching, you know, being able to instruct people, being on a stage. That feels very, very like, okay, this is what I was created to do.

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  2. Prayer is a lifeline. Prayer is, it means everything because there are moments when I have to express what's on my heart. And so many times, you know, when we can't express and we hold all this stuff in, it begins to come out in other ways. So for me, prayer is therapeutic. It's an opportunity to communicate. And there are times, you know, like I talked about earlier, it's like, God, I don't understand what you're doing. And it lets me feel the communication and the power of our relationship. And it allows me the opportunity to not only express, but to also listen for answers.

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  3. Yes, I think that religion sometimes is the structure. For spirituality. I think the spirituality can exist even outside of religion. But I do believe that most religions came to be because they wanted to help people understand how to navigate this life from a spiritual standpoint.

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  4. Probably when I was right after my father's death is when I really began to experience who God really was. You know, before then I felt like, you know, I was just going to church. But when that, you know, literally just happened and that trauma happened is when I really began to understand that there was a force larger than myself that was consoling me, that was healing me, that was helping me navigate a period of time that I don't think I could have gotten through without him.

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  5. My definition of God is not only the alpha, the omega, but he's a friend. He's a confidant. He's a buddy. He is a lover of my soul. That's my definition of God.

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  6. What is a soul? The soul is the spirit. It is the connecting line to God. I believe the soul is where the Holy Spirit resides. I believe that it is literally, you know, when you pick up the phone in that you have your, you know, your 4G network, the soul is the 4G network to write to heaven to me.

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  7. Thank you, Jesus. Hallelujah. Thank you, Jesus. Hallelujah. And I said, yes, yes, I'll take the job. Yes. And we negotiated the salary and I got off the phone and I immediately fell to my knees. And I said, thank you, Jesus. Because what he wanted me to understand was that success in my life was not going to be because I knew the biggest movie star in the world. It wasn't going to be because I knew the biggest producers in the world or the biggest agents. But if I would just keep my relationship with the God of the universe first and I would seek him in everything I do, He will work everything else out. And that has been the key to my success from that day to this, putting him first, trusting in him, and having the faith to let him guide me even when I couldn't see what he was doing.

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  8. And so Monday rolls around, my first day of unemployment. My mom calls the office because I didn't tell her what was going on. Oh boy. They tell her I'm no longer working there. She calls me frantic. Devon, what are you doing? I said, Ma, don't worry. Everything's gonna be okay. And so I got off the phone, started watching TV. That afternoon around 5 o'clock, I got a call from an interview I had done about a month prior. He said, Devon, we would like to offer you an executive position. Do you still want it? I said, hold on.

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  9. But what I realized, though, was my intention was wrong initially. Because all I wanted was a job. God says, I'm not sending you through this for a job. I got jobs. I have money. I have those things. Do you think I would send you through all of this just so I can give you a job, which is a temporary thing? No, I want a better relationship with you. I want to walk close with you. I want you to let me direct your life. And when I realize that is why this whole thing was happening, I changed my prayer. I leave that day. They throw me a going away party. But I leave that day with my boxes unemployed. And I said, wow, so this is what faith is all about.

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  10. And so the message he preached was called Turn the Page. At the end of Deuteronomy, Moses has died. The Israelites are mourning his death. When you turn the page to the next chapter, God tells Joshua, get up. It's time for you to go into the promised land. Your morning time is up. And I realized I was crying over a job that was dead.

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  11. Of course. Of course. Right? Yeah. And so I go, he's preaching at the forum where the Lakers used to play. And I get there so late I'm in the rafters. And he's like a dot on the stage. But he preaches this sermon.

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  12. Okay. It just so happens that I've always been a fan of TD Jakes and always been a fan of Bishop Jake's sermons. And he was preaching in Los Angeles around this time.

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  13. So I had the faith, but now I had to put some works behind it. I go out on interview after interview. I'm at my wits in. What do I do? Just so happen.

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  14. Like, man, I should have changed my prayer because he did exactly what I prayed for. But then now, you know, the Bible speaks about faith without works as dead.

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  15. And I went in the bathroom, I shut the stall door, and I had it out with God. I said, Lord, I believe in your word. You said anything I ask for in the name of Jesus you would do. So Lord, I need you to move on this job today. I don't care what you do. I don't care how you do it. But I can't come in here depressed anymore. You have to open a door today. I go out of the bathroom. I go back to my cubicle. Later on that night, something happened that never happened before. My boss brings me into his office. He sits me down. He says, Devon, Will and I, we love you. You're fantastic. We know you're going to have a big career. But we also know you hit a wall here. We wish we could promote you, but we can't. So we want to help you find a new job. So I walk out of the office thinking, okay, wait a minute, God, you heard me. But I'm like, wait a minute. I got to find a new job.

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  16. It has the transformational moment. And what I realized in my bathroom moment, so you know, you talk about the book, but I'll just clarify people like he's in the bathroom. What's he talking about? But I was working as an assistant at Will Smith's Company, and I was an assistant for his producing partner and manager. And things change. You know, things in the industry, things that the company began to change, and I realized that my promotion probably wasn't coming. And so once I understood that it wasn't coming, months, I would go into the office depressed. And one day I turn on my computer at my cubicle, and I said, I can't do this anymore.

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  17. And then you sit down And then you say, Hey, I know best. And the moment we do that, we are setting ourselves up for our biggest failures. And we have to remember that, that we do have God's grace, that we do have his love. And in those valleys, in those scenes that are really difficult, we don't know how we're going to get out of them. Those are the moments when in hindsight we will see his grace was the strongest. Like when I talk about pursuit of happiness in the book, in the moment where wills and the bathroom with his son, which is a true bathroom.

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  18. Your ego gets in the way. My best. That's good. I like that. That's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. It's true. It's true because you edge got out, you moved God out of the director's chair.

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  19. That Christ's consciousness all the time Because that ambition. And that drive and that determination sometimes gets the best of me.

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  20. Hey, exactly, exactly. Party over here, you know? And I did plenty of that. And through that process, freshman year is when I began to question every single thing that I believed up to that point. I began to question who is God? What does he want? Why do I serve him? What is this all about? And that process, you know, that freshman year of college is what really gave me the foundation for me to have the personal relationship with God, where I began to feel and sense, okay, he really is for me. I do live for him because I believe in him. I believe in his work.

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  21. That's right, rebel in reverse, exactly. And through that process of sweeping floors, vacuuming the church, showing up, ushering, deepening, directing the choir, all of these things, that laid the foundation for my relationship with God. But I really didn't come to know who God was until college. When I was a freshman year, you know how it is you leave for college and you've never been out in the world before you're like, okay

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  22. Because this is out when my father passed away, it was the same year that my uncle started our church in Oakland. And that year is when I really threw myself into church. And, you know, instead of rebelling and getting angry, I got angry but decided I'm going to make something of myself.

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  23. You know, it's only resolved in the context of my life as a story. And I understand that that conflict that I faced has made me stronger and it has informed the man that I've become. Do I fully get exactly why it happened when it did? I do not. And I can't wait to find out when we meet Jesus. Lord, tell me what happened and why. But that conflict was so difficult. It was so traumatic because as a young man, being a middle child of three boys, I always felt alone. I never felt like I was a part of the crowd.

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  24. Yes, you know, as a child when I was nine years old, my father died of a heart attack at 36. He was age 36. And that experience was traumatic.

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  25. And he wants the best out of you. The idea and those tapes that were put into your head that God is a punity. The God that you have to then begin to accept is a loving God who is trying to direct you into success, who wants the very best out of your story.

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  26. I think you begin with one, remembering that when you look at the context of film, a director wants the best out of your performance. The movie is most successful when your performance is at its best level. So when we think about God as our director, you have to remember that God loves you.

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  27. Absolutely, and also manage what you aspire to achieve. Conflict helps prepare us. So let's say you want to be president of the company. The conflict you face along the way gives you lessons so that when you are president, you have the ability to manage because you go back and you remember all of the situations you've been through. So when things are brought to you, you refer to that conflict as a way to understand how to manage whatever is coming to you.

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  28. That conflict is not always punitive, and it's not because he's angry with us, it's because he loves us so much. He knows that we will not grow if we don't have it.

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  29. If your faith won't fit in the door that opens. Then I argue, do not walk through that door. The door that God has opened for you

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  30. Right. But he said, no, be obedient. And so I said, Man, all right. Well, here's the thing: I can't take this internship if I have to work Friday night sundown to Saturday night sundown because I observe the Sabbath and she was quiet. And then after a moment, she said, don't worry, work around that. And I said, hallelujah. And what it did was it gave me confidence that if I embrace who I am, It will open doors, not shut them. Also,

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  31. Yeah, I was scared. It wasn't intended Wasn't intentional, but I'm there in the interview. And God starts to literally, it feels like he's speaking to me because everything goes great. I feel like, okay, yeah, I got this in the bag. You know how you just go in and ever you land, hey, it's all good. But at the end of the interview, it was like God was saying Her about the Sabbath. And I'm like, no, I'll tell her after I get the internship, after I get what I want.

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  32. Here's a commitment Are we all agreeing this is okay? So then all I have to do is just make sure I keep the commitment. Because the moment I break it, Is the moment they realize oh, well, he wasn't that serious. For me, Sabbath is a time to recharge. It's a time to rest. It's a time to spend time with my family. It's a time to spiritually reconnect. It's incredible.

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  33. Does that mean? South Venice is a Christian denomination, and one of the things that we believe is observing So, from a young child, being brought up, I was always brought up with Sabbath observance. So Friday night sundown, a Saturday night sundown, as mentioned in the Ten Commandments. Remember the Seventh day to keep it holy. And then also Jesus observed Sabbath as well. So it's one day where I don't check my emails. I don't respond to work calls. I don't read

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  34. I do. I absolutely believe that. And I believe that we have to have faith, faith in God is where it starts. I also think that faith in yourself. Know faith in believing that you have in you all that you need to be successful. So many times we look to other people and say, oh, if I was just them. Or, oh, if I had their opportunities, not realizing it's all in you. And what you go through brings what's already in you out.

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  35. Primarily, first and foremost, means belief in God. In a trust in God. And I have faith in His will. I have faith in His love for me.

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  36. You had no idea what's getting ready to happen in that next scene. So you stay in your movie, you focus on your scene, you become the best that you can be, and you'll be surprised at how great your own story works.

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  37. I tell people stay in your own movie. We're over here looking at other people's movies. And you have no idea. You look at someone else's movie. And in one scene, it looks like they're on the top.

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  38. Languaging for it. Yeah, but we're saying the same thing. Because we don't believe people, people don't believe that they're good enough. They don't believe they have what it takes. But when you embrace who you are and not worry about fitting in anybody's box.

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  39. and a full fulfillment. Fulfillment. Yes. A full. When you are fulfilled by what you do. You are fulfilled when you get up in the morning. You know, so many times we wake up in the morning, we're depressed, we're down, we're angry, we're frustrated, but when you can wake up saying, I'm glad to be alive. There is purpose to this day to mean that is success. And I would argue that once you have that internal success, then externally it's just a manifestation of what happens internally in the best possible way.

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  40. Are you at peace with that person? Are you content? That is the foundation of success. You can be the most famous person in the world. And not have peace. But we know a few of them. We do. Yeah, we do. And I would argue you're not successful.

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  41. That eventually does. Have to define success. One, I define success as peace. Do you like me too? You're my kind of guy. That's right.

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  42. But I argue that if you shoot for fame without any understanding of what you're supposed to do when you're there, it will be destructive.

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  43. You gotta put in that much time That's right. So, what happened to them in a world was just exactly that. It was already, they had already put in the time. And what happened in the world was just memorializing the things they had already done. But what I see, and what I think I talked about in the book, which it's unfortunate, is that what is fame? People aspire to fame without any means to an end. I'm like, well, what? Okay, so you're famous. Now what? What are you famous for? When you're trying to aspire to what to do in the world, I argue don't put fame as you're in game. You know, what is your purpose? If you become famous because you are rified in what you do and you operate in the seat of your purpose and there's no one else in the world that does it, and because of that fame is a part of it, fantastic.

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  44. At least you have a vision. That's right. That's right. But I think what has happened is that in this pop culture, through various shows, you know, various music and whatnot, there has been an over-obsession on you can make it overnight. You just don't wake up one day and win American Idol. I argue that those who win American Idol basically, that's a payoff for years of suffering and struggle that no one ever sees.

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  45. To be the president of Columbia Pictures. I know. I know. You know, I mean, first of all, I'm thankful that God did not give me everything that I wanted, you know, when I was praying for it, when I was going to college and saying, here's what I want to do by the time I'm 30.

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  46. It's why I do what I do. It's why I wanted to write the book. It's why I preach. It's why I make movies to help people get more purpose and more awareness. Sometimes people have no perspective. So you're in a situation, you're going day to day, month to month, a year to year without saying, wait a minute, what am I doing with my life? So, if you could just get people to awaken, if in a moment, to have a little bit of perspective in those moments of inspiration is when change can happen.

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  47. Exactly, exactly. Exactly. So it's important in life to know what our motivation is so it gives each scene that we're in more purpose than it otherwise would have

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  48. Your life with the ultimate creator. It's so true because sometimes, you know, you're going from scene to scene to scene with no idea of what your intention is. In development, not only do you co-write the script with God, but you are the star of your story. And there's nothing worse than when you are on set and you see an actor in a scene who doesn't know the intention.

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  49. Life as a story, then I have to know the point of my story. And sometimes what happens when we start developing a movie, the producers may have one vision of what the movie is supposed to be and the studio has another version.

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  50. You can't write a movie unless you know what the movie is supposed to be about. That's what development is. Sometimes we get so frustrated in our lives, but we have to go back and say, wait a minute, do I understand what the big idea of my life is supposed to be?

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