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  1. Need to kind of step out for a little bit. And my transition has been accompanied by moments of brightness, including this one. So I appreciate it, but also moments that have essentially changed my life. And I just encourage everybody to kind of just walk outside and meet somebody that's new, talk to someone that they've never met before, travel somewhere that they've never been, and just take a chance on some other things. Recognize that breeze of opportunity. It can come from anywhere.

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  2. It's all about curiosity. It's all about not being afraid to ask the difficult question what's out there. And it's all about, yeah, sure, it's about mitigating risk, but it's really about getting out of your neighborhood and going to a different one and going to ask somebody a different question. You know, you talked about Mark Twain and traveling reduces prejudice. It's more that traveling allows you to see things from a different perspective. There's a reason why some people up and leave and go and they come back changed. It's because they saw something different. They ate some different food. They talked to somebody. They sat in a different room than most people traditionally do and they took a deep breath and it was so fresh that they became enlightened. And sometimes we work ourselves so much into the dark that we

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  3. I know I got more to talk about. It's crazy. I know you got to run. I think there's so many topics of discussion. There's so many interesting things that are happening with the marketplace. And I think that at the crux of it,

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  4. So, I don't know if that's when I first started really believing in moments that are supposed to happen, but that definitely was one of them.

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  5. Kindest thing That's a tough question. A lot of people have been very very kind to me. I think that Lloyd Carr was very kind to me when he gave me a scholarship to the University of Michigan. I was very kind. Now his kindness was reflected in my mother's sternness, Nancy Jones, of saying You know, I know you don't necessarily want to give my son a scholarship, but he's got a little chip on his shoulder, and if he goes to the University of Washington, he's going to beat you guys in the rose bowl. So I think you maybe want to reevaluate that. So Coach Carr was very kind in giving me a scholarship. And it's kind of coincidental and synchronistic at the same time. We won the National Championship against Washington State. So it may not have been the same university, but they're right around the corner from each other.

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  6. And do you want a more diversified company? Because sometimes it's just making the choice yourself. And everybody listening that's out there, it's, I want to do this. I'd like to do this. Talk to your wife. You know, I think that maybe forget talking to the companies. Talk to your wife and see what she says. Because your wife or your partner, your girlfriend, your friends, they'll give you some true insights, but that pillow talk is serious.

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  7. You can do is talk to your business leaders that own companies and ask them about their initiatives. So I think it's always important that peer peers at the same level talk and ask really tough questions and not be skeptical and not operate in skepticism, but really get to the crux of the issue and say, you know, what are some of the initiatives and what are some of the businesses that you wish or you want or you've seen in the women-owned space or the veteran, veteran disabled, or the minority-owned space that your company really wants to work on? Or how are your initiatives really pushed forward? Is there something that is wrapped into your business that you want more companies? I think it is the mindset as well as the intent. And I think that's the most important thing is the intent. Do you want more diversified businesses that work with your company?

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  8. I think number one, I think any good investor is really just analyze the market, do a market analysis, really see if what I'm saying is true. Women own businesses, minority-owned companies, veteran, veteran disabled is a huge market opportunity, huge market opportunity. I remember talking about like billions and billions, trillions of dollars.

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  9. I can help you with McBain, you know, she's one of the best investors. You can talk to her, you can talk to Trina Van Pelt. She's over at Intel Capital. She's one of the best investors. There's a lot of people out there.

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  10. So there's market credibility out there that suggests that it will work and it can work. And I think it's a truly untapped opportunity that a lot of people are not going after.

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  11. Before, and I can kind of go back and talk a lot about minority-owned businesses because there's a lot of bad press around that people started thinking about them as more of like pass-throughs. Back in the 70s, when they came out, people were just trying to get government contracts so they would just have somebody that was in their office and they wouldn't really scale. It was just one person that was essentially collecting a check. And it's unfortunate. And I think now when we think about the diversified landscape that needs to occur within the business sector, whether it be technology or traditional business, people want to see more of those. They just have to get their mind out of the thought process that they can't truly scale. They're not just one person. The company in power of which we sold proclamation to, that's a woman-owned business. It's 300 people. It's 75% female. And their agency of the year.

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  12. Sort of There's an unoccupied space. So, if you think about it from an aerospace side, or I talk about the service space side, if you think about it from the engineering and manufacturing side, I think there's a lot of different opportunities that people can start to see within that market where

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  13. So, a lot of people think that a minority owned business or a woman owned business or a veteran veteran disabled owned business, a lot of people look at those businesses. I can't give you the exact example, but I could say this. A lot of people think in the investing world, don't think that they can contribute or invest enough in that business in order for it to get and at the same time be able to remain a woman or minority-owned business. So it's more of how much money can I really put into this company and how much can it really remain a minority-owned company or a woman-owned business or a veteran veteran disabled-owned company? Is it really going to sort of make sense in the market? Now, if you kind of comb through a lot of the businesses that are out there, people have made strategic investments in businesses that have been extremely successful, albeit it's a very limited group. And so we like to look at those opportunities.

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  14. And everybody's just trying to get ahead. And I think that one of the things that people overlook is the power of the woman-owned business. People overlook the minority-owned business. I think people overlook veteran, veteran disabled-owned businesses because there are a lot of things that are out there in the market that support the thought process that we want more companies like that. We want more heavily diversified businesses. Now, the unfortunate thing is there's still some skepticism around those businesses in terms of how scalable they truly are. The skepticism in terms of the scalability is only because people haven't done sort of their research in terms of how they can truly get to be that large.

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  15. And so Abel and I got together and we said, okay, look, we want to be a VCP. We want to focus on things that are in the services side. We say sales and service. I like saying sales service and also space. And then we also look at technology, engineering, manufacturing, things of that nature, because I think that within the industry now, there's a lot of legacy businesses that are out there that there's great opportunities around it. That was one of the things that we looked at. And then we also knew that there was a lot of technology that was up and coming that could meet at a great intersection with some of those legacy businesses. So we kind of sat in that area and we started doing some brainstorming. So we started investing in a bunch of companies and then also owning a couple different companies as well. Because one of the other pieces that we like to look at, and I think one of the untapped areas, is around strategic value add. There's a lot of clutter within the marketplace right now.

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  16. Industry, a guy named Roger Ehrenberg, another guy named Jason Mendelssohn. That's more in the venture space. Then I started, I just started tapping into sort of my Michigan network, and I'm sure I left a bunch of people out, a guy named Martin Franklin. There's so many people out there that have come from the Michigan world and other people that I've met through the Michigan network that just kind of provided me this insights and summit. I mean, I talk to so many people that are in the investing world from Summit.

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  17. When I started listening to what people were saying, I realized that that Harbadasri was actually holding me back. And so I needed to clean up my store. And that's when I started Key Capital. And I called one of my good friends, a guy named Abel Vroom. He went to the University of Michigan Northwestern Business School, worked at Credit Suisse, Goldman Sachs. And we started to sort of strategize what we're really trying to accomplish. And we wanted to start key capital and go out there and raise a bunch of money. And then we kind of looked around and looked at each other. We're like, man, I don't know if we have a full-on track record where people want to get behind that. So we're like, okay, how do we do this? Start looking at great models. And I know everybody looks at Buffett and I look at Brent. I also Robertson started looking at old school guys that have done an amazing job and heavily diversified.

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  18. So after I... Sold one of my companies, I actually had to reevaluate. And part of the motivation for selling was because One of the other things you need to be able to do is listen to what people are saying. Listening is sometimes good, but hearing is that much better. And

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  19. A lot of people think there's a lot of risk because they don't see it. They see the harbour dashtry. And I'm looking at it as clear as can be. And so, you know, through my NFL career and through my television career and now into my investing career, which is a culmination of all of that, I've been able to sort of develop a rapport and relationship with a lot of amazing people in the investing world that have given me advice that now are a part of my community.

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  20. That most people would not believe you. We talked about before in terms of most people want to be the first, but when there has to be the first, they don't want to do it. They don't want to risk. So when you're early and you're right, you're still wrong. So that's a hard area to sort of operate in because there's a lot of challenges and there's a lot of, I don't think there's a lot of risk because I already see it

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  21. Fall into a pattern. You all live in the same building. You all do the same thing. You all drive the same car. You go to the same club. You hit the same clubs. You try to hit the ball in the same spot, but it doesn't ever happen because I know all of you want to beat Jordan Speed, but that doesn't happen. Rory McElroy, actually people think they aspire to be like Phil Michelson. Even though most people in the world are not left-handed. So get over yourself. It's all the same. And when I think about work and I think about investing, I don't think about what other people are thinking about because I want to be where most people are not. Now, problem is. You're early in your right, you're still wrong. Well, just think of yourself if you were to come up with an idea that was so groundbreaking.

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  22. You probably do business with 20 people that you've known for the last 15, maybe 20 years. The same people, you're probably investing in ideas or people or businesses or markets where you know the people that are giving you great information and then you're discerning, you're doing your own research through people that you've been able to sort of spend time with. And then you're making the same market adjustments. You're making the same choices that your contemporaries are doing, your colleagues are doing the same type of thing.

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  23. I think a lot of people get really comfortable with where they live. A lot of people get really comfortable working with people that they've known for a long period of time. Everybody migrates towards one area or the next because the fact is it's the industry that they're a part of. It's easy. It's very relevant in the finance industry. It's the same thing.

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  24. Friday night training camp, I had to be there Saturday. Practice Saturday afternoon, Sunday on throughout the season. And I never missed a game, and I had the highest statistics, or I had the best statistics that I've ever had in my career. So when I think about travel and I think about sort of the support of the team and I think about my experience on Tackles the Globe and what that was able to sort of the net value from that It was the right show, it was the right moment it was the right team and I became a better person and I also became a better player

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  25. To kick things off, and it's similar to football. And I think that it's as beautiful. So I love doing that. I still do a lot of Muay Thai, but I think I think it's a great opportunity to cross train. And a lot of people may say, okay, well, you did this sport while you're playing football. And if they go back and look at my stats, my stats were actually higher my last four years in the league playing for the Bengals. And at the same time, I was doing this show where I was playing sports around the globe. And oh, by the way, when I would get back from going out of town to film this, I was out of town for like five weeks, maybe six weeks, a month and a half. I would get back the night before training camp.

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  26. One of the best experiences ever. And I didn't have to really do that much. I was the 18th man on the Louis Vuitton Cup during the Americas Cup, right, which was actually a precursor to the Americas Cup. And some down there in New Zealand. And I just love it. I just fell in love with sailboats. I think it's a great place. Well, number one, it's a great place to sort of clear your mind if you're doing a relaxing sale. And I think that the team effort that is on the ship while you're competing. And now I do sometimes I'm out in south of France at the Lavois de Centre and I fly out there with about 20 of my friends. My friend rents this boat and he brings all his friends and we do this sailing trip and we do this competition. And I think that you kind of look around on a sailboat and it's the same type of thing when you look around on the field. And albeit everybody is essentially contained and then you have this other person that's sort of in this shark tank when you're kind of going back and forth finding a get across aligned.

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  27. I don't know which one I was the best at. I know which one I love the most. I love sailing. I love sailing. Where was that?

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  28. 20 different sports 20 different sports. So everything from Sambo, which was in Russia to Pratus Arre, which was in Cambodia to Muay Thai, which was in Thailand, I climbed a base camp in Nepal, going up towards Everest. I played soccer or football down in South Africa. I mean, I played a lot of different sports. I mean, I was on the road. Why do you think I have so many sky miles? I mean, a lot of Delphi at Bastian loves me right now. I'm all over the place. What

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  29. Take a chance and jump. And I think that's how I've essentially sort of. Evaluated risk, true gut I agree. Common sense, but then there's sort of this synchronistic moment when you just feel it. But it's different than gut, and it's different than evaluation. It's synchronicity. It's something where the cars and everything else are aligned and you are able to see it. I think that's different than gut. I feel something versus I see something. And if you can align all those up at the right time, then hopefully things work out.

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  30. Think about risk. It's all relative. I think that what is life with no risk? That's pretty banal. What is life with too much risk? That's just too extreme. I suppose there's something moderate. But that's just status quo. And then there's sort of this risk fluctuation that occurs throughout life. And I mentioned it at the very beginning, this sort of breeze of opportunity. It doesn't come very often. And I remember there was a movie I saw way back when talking about the northern winds. I don't remember what the movie was called, but the northern wind suggests change. I almost think of that breeze of opportunity as the northern winds when they come very sporadically. You have to be open and sensitive enough to receive it. And then you have to be bold enough to go towards it. And then you have to

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  31. Let me tell you something 2007 a coach to say they want to live vicariously through you doing something that essentially you're not necessarily supposed to do at least your contract says if something happens to you you're going to lose your money or not be able to play I mean and the best part about it when the show actually started running Mike Brown said to me in the food line when we were at practice one day My wife makes me watch your show every Monday night. So I got the head coach, I got the owner of the team supporting me. That's when I knew I was doing the right show. And that's when I knew Cincinnati was going to be an important part of my life.

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  32. Travel channel does this thing called upfronts, and so they obviously want to tell everybody about the show. And so media kind of comes into it, and then all of a sudden pictures started coming out, and then videos start coming out, and then my phone starts ringing, and I'm saying to myself, don't answer it. Nobody saw anything. You didn't see anything, right? And my coach called me a couple times and I looked at the phone. I was like, I'm not going to answer it. He called me back. I'm not going to answer it. He called me again, and I'm like, I better answer it. And he picked up the phone and he said, so how was it? And I'm sitting on the other side of the line quiet. Next words were, I want to live vicariously through you

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  33. Or break my shoulder. I'm just thinking about all the unfortunate accidents that have happened to people that have fallen off horses. And then the horse is going to rear up like an Arabian stallion. It's going to come down on my head. It's going to crush my face to the rock. That's what I was thinking. All in the midst of like maybe like two seconds. So what actually happened? I missed the rock. Was completely unscathed, and the horse grazed my leg and there was no bruise. When I got up and I said, I'm okay, I knew that I was supposed to do this show And I got back into town. I didn't tell anybody where I was. The problem is.

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  34. We went on a foxtrag because they don't do fox hunts anymore in England. And at a horse named Harry. And to kind of cut the story down, we had to jump over fences. And so you knew it. So you know it happened at like the second and third fence. Well, the second fence was a little bit tumultuous. The third fence, well, we can just say that Harry didn't keep me on his back. Didn't make it. I didn't make it. And I remember falling off of the horse. Heading towards this rock, and everybody knows when you kind of get into an accident or something unfortunate happens, everything slows down. And I saw this rock coming at me and I'm like, wow, this is not going to end well. This rock is going to crush my face

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  35. I don't think anybody really knew that I was going overseas to London. I mean, of course, Redline Films did and took off, went over there. It was a pilot. It was great. It was tough. A couple times I thought I was going to die. I was like, man, I'm going to hurt myself. Something's going to happen over here because rugby, no pads, full contact. I'm this guy that's coming over to England. And the premise is I'm playing these professional sports. I'm playing at the highest level. This is not like club sports. These are real teams, real players that are making real money and they're just throwing me to the wolves, right? I remember Bloody Tuesday. We were out there during practice and I just almost broke my nose and almost broke my eyes socket. And I'm like, damn, like, what am I doing? And I got fed off that. I was like, I love this. And then when I knew that I was supposed to do the show,

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  36. Why not? I told you before, I was like, I'm going to go where most people aren't going to go. And I was nervous, but I didn't, I was actually, I was so nervous that I didn't tell anybody. And I tell my parents. I definitely didn't tell my agent

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  37. You know, this new angle, and that was what Dahani tackles the globe was. And so Pat Young was like, Yeah, you can do it. And the first episode, or your pilot, is going to be you going to England where I'm from. Pat was from England. He is from England. And you're going to go play rugby. And I'm like, whoa, scratch the record. You want me to go to England and you want me to play rugby. Now, mind you, everybody's going to say to yourself, weren't you playing football when you were doing this? It's like, yeah, I was playing football. And I was actually in the middle of contracts, right? I had just got released from Philadelphia Eagles because we didn't see eye to eye. Then I had just gotten picked up by the New Orleans Saints. So I was just trying to get a job. And public reception was I didn't focus enough on football. So they want me to go travel to play rugby in the UK. So I was like, meh.

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  38. The show where I had to carry it myself. How about that? And Pat Young, who is at the time the general manager of the travel channel, which was a part of Discovery Networks, we connected and it was really through the relationship that I had with Redline films in which I did a show called Timeless on ESPN2. Like I was a first player that has his own TV show while I was playing. First player, I mean, at least like I want to say that. You do that. All out. Just check it out. So Redline Films, and we were like, they said, you know, we have an idea. What do you think about this idea? I'm like, what do you think about this idea? And they're like, oh, that's a great idea. Let's work on this idea. So we did the idea and it was, let's go to travel channel. Let's allow you to travel around the world. Let's play different sports. Let's try that to forge an interest into the culture and the food and the community and find sort of this new.

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  39. And it was Marcus Graham, who was this creative agency mogul, if you will. And for a lot of African American men who are in the creative industry, a lot of people look up to Marcus Graham because he was the first guy that was essentially like on TV in this movie running a huge agency. And so I watched that movie probably like 25 times maybe more. I used to know that movie back and forth. So those are some movies. But, you know, going on to travel, movies allow you to travel, but life is better to kind of get out and see different things. And my first show was Dahani Tackles the Globe. Well, one of my first big shows, right?

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  40. He walks into the psychiatrist's office and he's like, you know, I don't know, is this as good as it gets? I remember that. And for him at that moment, it was. And then his eyes opened up to real life. He had always kind of put himself in his own personal prison and then someone just foisted their way in, locked the door and knocked him down and stood him up and knocked him down again. And then all of a sudden he just kind of realized that there was another part of life. And so sometimes you got to get over some of those things that hold you back. And so I love that movie for that. And then my other favorite movie.

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  41. Gotta go to Seymail. So Shaw Shank Redemption is one of my favorite movies. As good as it gets, Jack Nicholson is one of my favorite movies.

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  42. You know that? No. Se Montaneo is a real place. Now, Andy Dufrane may not be down there. He may not be working on his boat, but Sey Wataneo is a real place.

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  43. I love movies. I love Shaw Sank Redemption. That's one of my favorite in the quote, you know, not all, let's say, not all birds are meant to be contained. Their wings are just too bright. I think that was one of the great lines. That scene at the very end when he had to crawl through that sewage line. I mean, that's every person's journey. Every person's journey. At some point in their life, they feel like they're locked up and then all of a sudden they got to go through a bunch of stuff in order to kind of come out on the other side. Now, they may not all go down to say Wataneu, which I just found out is a real place.

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  44. But I think when you think about not only travel, but kind of going back to the question of why, I think if you watch that movie. It kind of grounds you in the why. Because I don't want to give away the movie, but here's a guy that lives out in the woods with his family. And all of a sudden they have to make a decision. And then they're quickly faced with this reality that a lot of people think that they have a lot, but they don't really have anything at all. A lot of people think they know a lot, but they don't really know anything at all. And it just sort of rolls into question how much time are you really spending around your own sort of creative motives and understanding of what's happening within whatever world of which you live and where you're really going. So it makes you focus on your own personal why, which would therefore translate into your business why.

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  45. City. So we have, I can't remember how many people we haven't played, about 15 people. And that agency has continued to grow. And I'm still participating in that. So that's the nature of the creative world. But I think storytelling at the core of it all is the most important. And while I, you know. Love stories. Who doesn't love stories?

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  46. Big difference. And so that's what proclamation became. And I started that with a guy named Jeff Warman. And we grew that business. And then we got bought by Empower Media House, Jim Price. And Empower Media is one of, we want Agency of the Year. In 2000, we just want Agency of the Year. So it was a big celebration. And proclamation became a part of that because you're starting to see the merge of all these different industries, especially in the creative space where you need to understand sort of the creative narrative that transfers in both the social media space and the traditional space and in the planning space because depends upon who you want to reach is determined by who you've been talking to. And so proclamation became a great part of empowering media. And so those are the two agencies. And then VMG has now grown. I mean, we're down here in New York.

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  47. I was like, there's a different narrative that goes alongside with what's happening at Bowtie Cause, right? There's a certain proclamation that people are exhibiting when they rock bowties. And instead of just sort of focusing, as VMG did on the digital side and building sites and building products for people and launching products, we wanted to sort of get into sort of a different niche where it was that cause that a company might have had that they may not have had the opportunity to express. In other words, what is the reason for your company's existence versus what are the products that you're selling for your company?

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  48. So the first agency I started with a good friend of mine, Luke Raymond from the University of Michigan. And we started VMG Creative. And it was, he had incredible talent. I had incredible relationships and we decided to sort of partner together. And VMG continued to grow. I was in Cincinnati, Ohio, and when I moved to Scincy from Philadelphia when we started it,

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  49. So storytelling is imperative. That's how the world has been built. That's how whether you're in a, it doesn't matter the industry you're in, you have to tell some type of story in order to get a job. You have to tell some type of story in order for somebody to give you money. You have to tell some type of story for you to start some sort of company. It's how we all kind of fall into this stream of consciousness or this sort of social narrative. It's sort of an ever-present sort of script that's essentially going as we kind of write history, we kind of fall into the line somewhere. We might be a new paragraph where we might be a part of the paragraph above where we might be part of the next chapter. We're all sort of these books.

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  50. So we're out and this girl comes up to my friend and she's like, what's up with that bow tie? That bow tie is, what is that? Who wants to wear that bow tie? Why are you wearing the bow tie? You're in a bar. He says this bow tie is 9-11 Memorial bow tie. You could hear a pin drop. That bar just by the sheer, it was like an energetic blast throughout the bar. And all of a sudden everybody sobered up. Now, that's the power that the bow tie essentially was able to or still is able to sort of conjure, if you will. So that's what bow tie cause is all about. And so we've done a lot of bowties, and Brent has been a big supporter of it.

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