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  1. Anybody Thank you for all Well, thank you so much for having me. It's an honour to be on this podcast, and I've learned a lot as well. So, thank you.

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  2. Of the things that's helped is working as a doctor, you know and accept that you are not a specialist in the area of it. Medicine's huge. So we have dermatological, cardiological, neurosurgeon surgeons, obstetricians. So I'm kind of quite happy for people to go like your specialties that you do, that, you do that. I'm kind of happy with that idea. That's where you've got it. But the thing that I do fear a little bit, I still fear I worry about letting things go a little bit. It's not about the ear. I just worry about not having sight over things. So I think that's where they're kind of building the brand of Dr. Help me allow us to do more. I'm just scared a little bit of letting go of stuff.

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  3. Basically, free up my time to the front facing stuff, which we talked about, I think, before. So it is interesting. I think I'm learning that. It's taking me time. I think one of the things funny enough that I think has helped, and obviously I know they're going to make mistakes in this business. I think here listen enough to your podcast say that people make mistakes.

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  4. It's really interesting to hear you say because I think we talk about work-life balance, right? I'm looking for an office space. The other thing I've realized is that I need to grow my own team. So I'm actually now growing not just prescribed as one of their elements, I'm growing my own team that's the kind of Docked Annex brand team. And I think a big part of, I've come to that point and realize I need to let go of certain aspects. People can take over that. They can do this part of it. They can add and allow me to.

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  5. That scares me a little bit because we are, I mean, we are very, you know, we're still small, but we are, I'd say we're doing very well, we're growing very quickly, we're expanding quickly our range, et cetera. That scares me, that growth quite a bit, because then that's, again, the uncomfortable zone. It's like, well, how do we manage who needs to come in and do this? It's a bit scary

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  6. We are a recruitment It's a really interesting because I kind of realized that having the right people is important, but I quite haven't viewed it in that way. Everything comes from that

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  7. Why would they want to come and work Hiv Covered that we're working out of why would they want to be here Yeah, okay, who, you know, I don't have any Dave's in the team. Well, I made that mistake.

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  8. I have to keep listening to your podcast, but I need you to give me some expert. Now we did Dragons Down, I need some expert advice to help me make it into a massive business.

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  9. You know, the bit I understand, I do understand the social media sites. So I kind of lead quite a lot on that because I kind of get it. It's just kind of incorporating into my life. But yeah, it's pretty scary. I mean, especially running into Christmas, we're planning the Christmas. It's a pretty important thing. Think about doing pop-up. We're going to do a pop-up shop and stuff like that. I mean, it's all a bit scary and you have to invest in your own business clearly, but it's exciting, right?

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  10. It's outside the comfort zone. I mean, it's well outside the comfort zone, but I really enjoy it. I really enjoy. I've got a great team around me. We've got a small team. It's not Kabir, your businesses. But we've got to start somewhere. I've got a small team around me. And what I think is very important, and I say this, I've got no right to say this from the business space, but I've learned it in life to be true, recognize the areas that you are weaker at, recognize what you don't know about and bring people in to sort that. So I've got people, I got someone, a fantastic person called Ella, who is amazing at products, product design, finding products within the beauty space. She's done an amazing job of we're working with an amazing factory that we're working on on the bath bombs. I've got people that understand marketing properly, got people understand the business side of it and how much of things cost. How much does that? What do we price it at? So I've just realized, but what I'm not good at and get people in to come and help me.

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  11. Actually, do a lot of stuff in my life that's very heavy, it's very stressful. This would be a really exciting business to do. So I kind of started looking into it and a few months later, we've got doing a range of bath bombs, which I'm very proud of, vegan bath bombs. I say environment in mind because I think sustainability is a word that's very tricky to say that your trunk is truly sustainable. Environment in mind. And we're growing our product range. The idea of prescribed is that you're prescribing yourself time, investing in yourself in self-care. And I think that's what I was doing getting into the path. And that's what the brand to be. So it's going to be candles, shower products, you know, creams and moisturizers, everything around that self-care space. But it's great. It's booming quick because I think people are so interested in this space. It's what is a 3 billion pound space in the market at the moment, isn't it? It's a huge industry that's growing and people want to genuinely take care of themselves.

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  12. Funny, if it started from a place of I Love Bath Bombs, because I have to stop myself from doing things. I need to put myself in a place where I sit down, relax and unwind. Getting in the bath, you know, put your phone away from the bath. You can't do very much really. You're sat in the bath, right? Put some music on, listen to your podcast as well, occasionally have the bath. That's not an image you probably want to think. Anyway, I sit in the bath, listen to the podcast, right? So just it helps me chill out. And I chuck a bath bomb in or whatever. And I was doing, I was showing on my story. I always show it chucking in the bath bomb and all my stories and I chuck the phone away to get in the bath. And people start saying, why didn't you do it yourself? Lush is great, but there's no one in that space. Why didn't you create it? And I thought.

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  13. We're all like jigsaws shapes, aren't we? Really? In our lives, and you kind of got to be able to fit. And there's also the practicality of life you need to have. It's so difficult in modern life, like people have opposing careers that don't work together. It's like there's so many bits of that jigsaw, but I think, again, it comes to even stuff about careers if the other bits and the sum of the rest. Know make that relationship grow and work, but you just got to find that right find that right person, I think. And I think if you go into it with that mindset, with those three kind of key ideals and things that you're looking for, then yeah, I hopefully won't go too far wrong

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  14. Is the good worth the things that you maybe don't think are as perfect about that person? And when you found that in someone, you've really won, you know, being like, do you know what? I accept their imperfections. They accept my imperfections. But the good and the combined good parts of each of us. makes it worth while. And I think that is the ultimate goal, isn't it, really?

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  15. I know exactly what you're saying. Do you know what I mean? First of all, I agree with all your three points entirely, and all of them are required, I think, to be in there, for it to kind of work. But yeah, I mean, no one's perfect. We're all in the beauty of the world is everyone's imperfect. We'll all have things that people would say, Alex, that's really annoying trait of yours. We're going to have that, right? It's finding what's finding...

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  16. Millions and millions The massive empire of podcasting, whatever. No, I'm joking, but it's sharing common ground, isn't it? It's finding something that adds to you in some way. But I mean, even with Ali now, for example, she recognizes in me when I'm starting to get stressed and working, particularly the mental health work does cause me a lot of stress sometimes, ironically. And she recognizes that. And she's really great at helping me step away and say, do you know what? You've done a lot in that space. Step away for a moment and take a bit of time. When do you stop, you know, that quite line, you know, and learn to stop? And she adds in that way a huge amount, a sense of calm to my life, actually, which is really great. So I do feel that if you're with someone, whether it's a friendship, your friend should actually add to your life in some way. If they're not adding to your life, are they truly your friend?

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  17. The first thing is don't try and fix it. I think it's that acceptance. I think I big believe, I don't believe that happiness is altered, whether you're in a relationship or not. Your state of happiness is an internal thing. Relationships other people are external. They do add to that, of course. I'm not clearly worrying if I didn't think Ellie didn't make my life happy, but you can add to something that's existing if it's not there in the first place. There's nothing to add to. So, you know, I always think focusing on yourself and your passions and interests and try and meet someone that will genuinely, it's so cliche, but it is, I think it is really, really true that genuinely adds to you as a person if you're rubbing up against someone, your purposes aren't aligned in some way, there isn't some kind of crossover in your directions in life. I don't know if that's going to work. So you kind of need someone else that's got...

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  18. I think that over the years that I've been so focused, I think, on my work and the things that I want to do, very driven in that space. Yeah, like there's always an element of selfishness, isn't there? When you focus on something to the extent that you have, and I have certainly particular examples in the pandemic, it becomes almost selfish because even if you're doing it for altruistic means, it's becoming something you are doing so intensively that other people are being maybe not being having the focus that they're expecting or you're not giving attention to other areas, it's become selfish, doesn't it? And I think that makes it a challenging. But I'm getting much better at that. And I hope Ellie would say that as well.

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  19. No, no, no, not that I'd want to, but I didn't know. No, but it's changed so much for people. I think the world of dating. And I think that one of the things I do worry about, I don't know what you think about this, but... The world has become so, what's the word, like throwaway, things are like you can date someone, see you on a date, bump gone next time. And that worry about a little bit about that, about people connection. Yeah. Not real. Like even amongst friendships and stuff, people just like write in and out. It's like a swipe, left, swipe, right kind of idea. And I worry about that a little bit.

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  20. Have That is the thing, isn't it? That is where people are meeting each other now. And I think that's why in the book I didn't brush over that topic because We have to accept that people are meeting each other through all these various apps, whatever it might be, and the technology and things now. But it's about not forgetting that at the heart of that connection that In person and physical connection that you build with someone needs to be there as well. It can't just all be online. It's like an entry point to meeting people, isn't it? But I think it's an interesting one. Things have changed so much. Are you on the dating apps? I'm not in the dating apps.

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  21. We actually met in person in the traditional way. When there was the kind of break in the pandemic, you could meet people and just at a pub, actually, just natural, normal meeting place. But obviously that's changed so much now. I mean, I'm not on the dating apps for the reasons that, you know, I think for obvious reasons. But that has become so much weird.

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  22. That was a big thing. I think part of coming back to that work life balance and now going into this new relationship, I think I'm trying to make sure that I'm investing in both in those aspects of my life as well, the family, the friends, the relationships. It's not all about the work or the campaigns or the things I'm doing. You've got to, again, it's finding that. That balance, but I you know, I learned from that. And I don't regret it. My role in that pandemic was to be relationship.

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  23. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, look at the pandemic scenario. I mean, I was working in the hospital and the work I was doing was going well and all that kind of stuff pre-lossing his life, I suppose, that part of it. But my relationships suffer because I work so hard in that sphere. My girlfriend at the time moved back to Bournemouth where her family was. So I was working ridiculous hours, not seeing her at all because of the pandemic restrictions, being separated. And my relationship suffered. So I've been in that situation. It ended for that reason. I've been in that relationship for like two or more years. And I think it was quite serious relationship at the time. And then, you know, the pandemic and my focus on the work probably was resulted in the end of that relationship.

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  24. Go to Goodwood or go watch tennis and stuff, you know, very fortunate to be able to do these things. But when I am old and I look back on my life, I want to remember and look back and go, actually, I did make the most of life. I didn't just work all the time. Work-life balance is those cliched old thing, but it is important to have.

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  25. So, I think it's just being honest with yourself and going, like, right, you know, at the moment, that's what I'm trying to do. So I'm actually looking for an office space now at the moment. So I'm going to define my space that I work in. So it's being realizing the things that the challenges you have and actually, like we said earlier, what are the steps you're taking to fix those challenges, to find that balance. One of the things I've done, which has worked really well, is that On the weekends by and large, and I stick this very strictly, weekends are mine again now. You know, I worked for almost a whole year throughout the whole pandemic across being on TV, public health, England stuff, being on Instagram, YouTube, all this stuff. And I was working almost every day and ridiculous hours, particularly full-time in A&E and everything else. It was crazy hours, right? And it was only going to lean to me being burnt out, you know, and I think, you know, and that's fine for a short period of time. It's not fine for the long term. So now I've fought back and dragged back my weekends mostly, mostly got my weekends back to actually do stuff with my family and my friends, go to the formal one.

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  26. Because most of us, and I've known it's got life down, I don't think there's anyone I've ever met, they've got entirely got their life down. They might have their career down, they might have problems in their family, or they're falling out with a girlfriend or whatever.

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  27. I think at the moment, particularly coming out of the pandemic, I'm still trying to figure out the workspace stuff. Like as before, I worked in any kind of two days a week. Then I'd work from home and doing stuff. But now I'm moved kind of out of the A&E sphere as much, even though I'm going back to do some shifts. I'm not going to be in as much as I was. I'm just trying to find that balance of switching off and switching on so the working day, you know, especially because so much of my work across Instagram and stuff. I'm finding that challenge. People go, well, hang on, this is what you talk about a lot in your book and stuff. It's like, yeah, but being aware the problem doesn't mean you always got it fixed all the time. It doesn't mean you got it down all the time. Most of the time I'm getting there and I'm pretty good at it, things that get out in the walk in the morning, get my exercise in, my sleep stuff I'm doing all right. But the thing of switching off the phone and my Instagram particularly, that is the bit I'm still not quite finding the balance on. And as I say, finding that balance between being at work and not being well. But the truth is that's okay.

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  28. Yeah, it's the same. It's the same idea of AE in an AE and a shift in AE. And I still do it because I really, really love it selfishly maybe. But if I do a shift in AE, I can help 11 or 12 people, which is really, and I'm not taking away from that at all because the change you make in that person's life literally saving people's lives. Okay. So I don't see it as like, oh, I can help more is better. But if I'm using my platform in the mental health space, particularly what I'm trying to achieve, I can reach so many more people. You know, because in A&E, we're fixing people with problems that we can fix in that moment. So the idea of A&E, you know, the work I'm doing is really preventative. So that's what I've realized. That's why I stepped away more since post-pandemic from the A&E work because I've realized that that is fixing the problems when they've happened. I want to work on that preventative side and reach as many people as possible.

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  29. It's difficult, isn't it? Because you can't help everyone, is the truth. When I say you can't help everyone, you can't individually help everyone.

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  30. Basically, in eras and campaigns that can help the majority in these things, I realize that sadly I can't sit and help and fix everyone's that's DMing me if I tried I would fail. I'd probably cripple and cry if I tried to do it. So I try and look at doing the big projects and help people in that way if that makes sense. But of course I speak to a lot of people because I go out and speak to young people. I speak to people who are struggling in person and it is heavy sometimes. But again, I go back to if I feel like I've managed to help them and that's then that really helps. And of course a lot of the content that I make is around speaking about well-being, about mental health. I feel that I'm able to influence people in a positive way. But of course it is heavy. It is hard. It's not easy thing. And I'm sure and it's the same anyone. You talk about a lot of emotive subjects as well, particularly around the space actually in your podcast and have them for a long time. So you, of course, get those messages.

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  31. It's heavy. It's heavy. And I think this role has been, I mean, I really enjoy what I do in the Youth Mental Health work. And I think a lot of the work we do is very, very positive, very uplifting, actually. And I think the work particularly on well-being is really, really positive. And I want the conversation around mental health to be one about how exciting it is as a space by empowering yourself, giving yourself the tools to live a happy and successful life in whatever definition that is. But of course there is the other side of it of having that weight of those who are struggling. And what I try and do is work across

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  32. lot from speaking to people about it and I think talking is good and I think bottling these things up and hiding away wouldn't help and it's interesting because when you passed away we took the decision to go public and tell people because you know you passed away I didn't want there to be any confusion as he died of COVID you know what's happened you know how has he passed away I wanted people to understand no he died of mentally suicide he had a mental he desired died of a mental health illness you know that was very important for us to make that kind of statement but I knew in that point that the people then would you know that we would end up talking about this but the way I kind of see it is that even on days it's difficult to talk about if it helps someone else if someone else is listening and watching this podcast and they go you know I'm going to watch out for the signs in other people I'm going to be much more aware of this now or if I'm struggling I'm going to give it this chance I'm going to speak to someone I'm going to go to a professional I'm going to speak to my family

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  33. Besides, I think it's true that before and after element, isn't it? I don't think I am entirely the same person as I was before. I think, in fact, and it makes a lot of sense. If you're going to experience a massive life-changing event, it's probably going to change. If it's changed your life, it's going to change you. I'm still at the core of the same person I always was, but I think I've probably been slightly molded a bit differently. And I think I don't think I'm entirely the same. And I don't really know what I mean by that. And I can't really give an answer to what way am I different, but I'm just not quite the same person, I think. And potentially because I have to carry this box, you know. But yeah, in terms of kind of interviews and things afterwards and talking about it, as odd as this might sound, in many ways as therapy that might be not the answer you probably expected, but in a way, it's a way of me talking with different people about an experience that has shaped my life and hearing their thoughts on that as well. And I've taken

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  34. Would be success for me. And yeah, I think that has changed a lot of that kind of mindset in my hands. But I also want to live life a lot more. I've also liked, because it's happened, I'm like, I want to go on holiday. I want to enjoy my love of cars. I'm going to formal on this weekend. I want to go and enjoy my hobbies. It's made me want to like live as an enriched life as I can.

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  35. I think it puts into perspective thing. I think puts things in perspective. But interestingly, not as well, I still get annoyed and upset about the same things I got annoyed about before, but I have to go Alex like in reality to some things you've had to kind of deal with is probably fine. I think it's funny in that way. But it also does, it does mean that, you know, I try, it's kind of given me another purpose that, you know, in life, I guess, that I want to kind of work on. And I think it does make me think much more about like I want to do, I want to make sure that in life I can impact positively on people. And if I can influence people in a positive sense in this space, then I think that would be success to me. I think that if it was to ask, what was the meaning? What is the definition of success to me? I think it probably would be feeling that I've made a genuine impact in that mental health space and that other young people, other people won't take their life or will seek help and get help before that point or when they're at that point.

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  36. Ruminate with it, but then you can put it back when you need to. And I think that is what happens. And I think that's why you will always carry it. You can't get rid of it. You never stop loving that person. You just have to learn to live with that black box in your head, basically.

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  37. Yeah, I think you go through every emotion of like anger, upset, frustration, sadness, feeling of guilt, every spectrum of negative emotion, I think, and you cycle through that. And I think the process of I've had with grief is kind of going through the kind of shock phase, you know, anger shock, upset, the kind of sadness through it and trying to come to a place of acceptance, I guess, is where you've got to try and get to. And I don't know, I'm guessed somewhere on the way, I guess on the way to that, but you kind of go backwards and forth that sometimes I think your grief is not a linear process. I think it's very much that zigzag of kind of you get better, get worse, get better, get a bit worse. And, you know, you carry what I think is like a black box in your head with it. When it first happens, you're just staring into this abyss of this black box of sadness and everything. And then eventually you learn to close the box. Eventually it shrinks a little bit and hopefully eventually you can put it on your shelf and you can sometimes go and sit and

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  38. Chance to save those people, you know, and I think that balance we need to work on the stigma, we need to work on the funding in combination to kind of change this. But, you know, for him it was too late. But I hope that through my work I'm doing now. I can't take the pain or whatever way of what's happened, but I can hopefully prevent other families going through it because it's an awful burden to carry. And I've got to carry it for whatever, you know, hopefully a long time, but whatever length of my life is, I have to carry that. That doesn't go away. It's always there

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  39. He felt so much like this with it that he couldn't talk about it, that he took that decision. So I think there's so much cultural stuff, there's so much stuff around stigma that there has still got to do to change that because if you'd have said something, if you'd have talked about it, we could have, you know, I big believe that we can get through anything, we can change through most things, but you've got to have the opportunity for help. But I think that's where there's an interesting conversation around, yes, mental health services clearly need real funding. There's no counter argument against that and we need to do more. But we actually have to work on education around mental health and the stigma element too, because in his scenario, even if you had the best mental health system in this country ever, if you didn't ask for help, how is he going to access that service? And I think we lose too many particular young men each year who are not actually accessing any help or reaching out at all before they take that decision. We're losing the chance.

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  40. And the shame is, I think the biggest shame, I think, is that he just obviously couldn't feel the sense within him that he could ask and say, this is how I feel. Can I have help? And when I talk about a lot of the work I want to do around Stigma and people go, oh, yeah, we're talking about loads of stigma's done. So no, because, you know, he felt the point where he'd rather take a finite decision.

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  41. No, I mean, he was really fed up with being kind of the pandemic again, and he was worried about his exam results. We talked about that a lot, and I'd asked him about how you're feeling. I was like, yeah, once he got through this, but I'm kind of all right kind of thing. Nothing that would make you think that, you know, and go down to that route. But it's one of those things that people, often when people go to take their own knife or, you know, not all the time, but quite often people will sometimes, well, at least in his case, you know, they don't give the warning signs because they've made their decision of what they wanted to do.

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  42. And I think probably in the weeks before he probably was a bit more anxious about the pandemic. And I thought, well, he's been locked up quite a bit with all the restrictions, but we're going to see him next week. But nothing out of what I would say is what you'd expect as a 19-year-old kid that's been kind of stuck in the whole time. But now it's easy. It is easy when you look back and you think in hindsight, oh, that was a sign of that, that and that. But you're going to have that regret, aren't you? You know, you always go into this human nature. My mom always has that sense of guilt around it. She can't control what happened. It's his action. It's his choice that he made. But for everyone around that person, it is that guilt that you carry. I think forever.

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  43. Yeah, it's one of those things, isn't it? I mean, he was very worried about his exam results coming up understandably so. He saw what happened to me. He's very excited about that. He's future planning about it and really looking forward.

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  44. Train and it was kind of a weird, like we were talking earlier on about Freya and having the opportunity to say goodbye, like having that closure. I didn't get that with him. You know, he was supposed to come to London the week after, and then we were going to go back to Wales together. And it's the first time I'd have seen him in a long time because of the pandemic. And all of a sudden, I was like, wow, I don't get any closure. That's it then. And I think that has been very and continues to be very difficult. The lack of, you know, why didn't you talk to me about it? As someone who knew the work I was doing around mental health, particularly during the pandemic, why didn't you ask me for help? That's very, very hard.

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  45. And I just said straight away who's died, like who's passed away, like what's happened. And he said, Clear has passed away. Clear is dead. And I was like, what? And it was weird. The whole world closed in. And I can't explain. It sounds very dramatic, but it was almost a spotlight came onto me in that moment. And I was like, no, it can't be. I just couldn't believe it. And the disbelief, and he said, yeah, he's passed away. And then we had to drive my middle brother Elliot, who's in the REF. He drove up to London. He works out just outside on the bases and he came in to fetch me. And we drove back together. And it was kind of five hour drive back to West Wales. And it felt like 10 eternities. Like every mile was like the longest mile. And I went into every corner of my mind. But you just couldn't fathom it, really. I think that's the thing about suicide or, you know, about when these things happen, it can happen out of nowhere and you just haven't seen it and you've been hit by this.

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  46. Yeah, it's almost a year to the day now. I think the 23rd of July will be its anniversary's death, but the year's gone very quickly. It's very odd. It feels like yesterday, but yeah, very odd with the time. But yeah, I was sat at dinner in London with some friends. We actually just ordered a few drinks, about to order kind of start as a main. I was busy looking at my menu, thinking we're going to eat and whatever. I think, oh, it's a great place. This is enjoying myself. And the phone went my dad would say, look, if you, because I do a lot of stuff with filming or whatever, you know, if you ring once, just if you just want to chat ring once and I know you're ringing for chat and I'll call you back. But if you ring twice or more, I know it's something important and I'll always answer doesn't matter what situation I'm in. So he rang twice. In fact, I think it was gone to the third call. All right, okay, I need to answer this. And I could hear in his voice instantly that something really bad happened. It's weird when you hear that rattle or that kind of tone in someone's voice. There's only one thing that has happened.

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  47. And I was like, that's it. You know, I've had this amazing kid, I don't have to pay anything, and I'm still here to tell the tale, you know, so I think I really hope people will support the NHS more than ever now coming out of it and protect it and make sure we don't strip it of any more of its money.

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  48. A few years ago, I got sepsis. I was actually working in AE and a shift in Lewisham. And I started having fever in the afternoon. And by late afternoon, I really didn't feel well. I actually cycled home about six miles from work really struggling. I was really fit to get home. Got home. I was like pulse. I'm having a fever. Oh gosh, I'm actually quite sick. I have a bit of a realization. Got on the tube to go to St. Thomas at Westminster. Pretty much collapsed in the door of St. Thomas's end up in recess and had a most incredible care. Was in hospital for a week for sepsis. But they saved my lives. And I was like, wow, and I saw it was really interesting because I saw the NHS from not as a worker, but as a patient. And I was like, God, we are so lucky. I literally had everyone looking after me. The care I had. And let's be frank, I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for the treatment I had. And at the end of the week or whatever, thankfully I had a quick recovery. I just walked out of the hospital.

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  49. Unbelievable. The fact that the 73rd birthday the NHS was awarded the George Cross of I think it's for bravery, isn't it? But anyway, it's the highest recognition, isn't it, that it can achieve is a really good thing. And I hope that actually people have realised now how much we need the NHS, how lucky you are. I mean, you've been to America. You know, the beauty is if you're here in this country, if you've, God forbid, you're cycling home from work one day and you get October, you get hit on the head and you have a bleed in your brain, you will go to a hospital, you'll be operated on by a neurosurgeon who will look after you, you'll be in a hospital bed, you'll have all the rehabilitation that you need and support, even if it's for many months, and you will at the point of that service, at the point of care, you won't pay a penny. And that is incredible if you compare that to the God knows how many hundreds of thousands or millions that would cost in other countries, we're very lucky.

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  50. I mean, forget almost for a second the disrespect that it shows to all the doctors and nurses that have worked in that situation had to deal with the things we've dealt with and actually the professions that have died of COVID, don't forget we have lost quite a lot of NHS staff. I actually really lost one of my good friends. There was a nurse at Lewisham. She had intensified for three months. She nearly died of COVID treating patients in recess. But also the respect to all the people that have lost their lives and the families that now have to live have been one of the groups of people that have lost. It's very upsetting. I mean, people are going around. I mean, people going around to hospitals and going to waiting rooms of boots or outpatient reception are going, look, the hospital's empty. It's like, yeah, it's empty because we've closed all that because all the doctors and nurses are pooled into the acute settings in the hospital to look after the rammed wards of patients that we need to care for. But the public see this picture of an empty reception room at the hospitals aren't busy.

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