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Dylan Field

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“Looking back as a kid, I went on all these auditions. There are so many that you get rejected right away. And then sometimes you get to For, like, a big, big part. And it's actually like two or three people in the room, and they actually look just like you then it's kind of hard to blame on a look, but it's like, okay, well, for whatever reason, how would they looking for? And I didn't this time. It always felt like there was another one ahead. It's about playing over a long period of time. And the more that you can keep going, the more you can win”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Acting from childhood and whatnot and just not being afraid of failure. And even the days where we get punched in the face, it's like, great. You get back up and you keep running at the same thing.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh wow, there's a lot of luck, not just in the connections along the way and the ways that folks have helped. And I really care to pay that forward and try to. But also, I think the timing. I mean, if we had started this a few years earlier, we wouldn't have had WebGL. A few years later, maybe someone else would have already been at it. And that timing is truly lucky, that chance to interact and intersect with Evan and the fact they were the same place at the same time, that was luck for sure. But also, I think, yeah, there's always the question in your back of your mind of an incredibly talented team of people, how much am I adding versus how much is this amazing group of humans around me adding? I think Back at”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“When you think about the journey you took and where you are now, so many things happened because you sort of manifested them, but also there was a lot of really just fortunate encounters, you know, getting to LinkedIn and managing to meet the CEO and all these different things. All those connections over the years would play out. These characters would come back into your life in and out of your life. And here you are, you're just 33 and overseeing a company that's multi-billion dollar value to billions dollars and buy some accounts does over $600 million in revenue a year. You know, when you think about where you got to now, how much do you attribute it to luck? How much do you attribute it to the work you put in?”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think that the chance to work on a platform like Fig To impact an industry like this, it's truly once in a lifetime opportunity. And the more that I get to know other companies and whether it's through investment or just friendship, watch other founders, the more I appreciate how unique this experience and opportunity is for us. And I just think about the vision that we started with. I can't think of a better thing to work on.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, I'm sure over certain various rounds you were able to take some money off the table, and you did not grow up wealthy, but you will certainly are and certainly will be even more so. I mean, the companies $20 billion acquisition offer from Adobe is quite significant. And you're young, very young. You're, gosh, older, are you 30? Many founders we talked to on the show don't even start until they're 33. You know, really get things going at 33, 40, 45. If you could, I don't know, look out into the, first of all, into the future, what do you think you want to be? I mean, do you imagine in 15 years you're still going to be running this company that you started?”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, Evan is still one of the people that I look up to most in the world. And that was why I was so sad he left because he's somebody that genuinely like I have so much respect for. So yeah, he's an amazing, amazing guy. And the work he's done after Figma 2 on the open source side has been incredible.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Evan left the company. We didn't mention this, I think, shortly after the pandemic. He sort of wanted to just kind of move on and understandable. There's a lot of probably a really hard work to get to where the company got to. And are you guys still in regular touch?”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Think what becomes different, a differentiator is design, it's craft, it's how it works, it's brand. And as we look at the future, that's what I believe will still be the differentiator for software. It's going to be that craft. And I think that the value of design of good design will actually go up even more in this environment. And can you create a piece of software that has some design with a prompt? Absolutely. Can you explore the entire option space and figure out what it is that you should ship? I think that requires human judgment to go navigate that and to figure out what is the right approach. And I think we're still very early in any level of AI being applied to that process. So I'm actually more bullish today than I've ever been on the role of design in the software process.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Good. They will be so good that people will make money off of them, and my value will probably be going doing things live or people trusting that it's really me and not an AI that just sounds like me and mimics my voice and my mannerisms and the questions I ask. I have to imagine that this is something that is also top of mind because if it requires teams of really smart designers to collaborate and put something together now, it doesn't take a huge leap of imagination, a figment of our imagination, so to speak, to imagine that with a couple of sentences, people will be able to generate the things that they're generating in Figma now that take days or weeks or months.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm curious. I mean, you guys are a much bigger company. I think 1600 employees, right? That's more now, yeah. In cities around the world. But we are entering and we're already seeing it every single day a really just a rapid pace of sort of innovation around artificial intelligence. I mean, we're talking now here by the time this airs, who knows what's going to be available just a couple weeks ago, ChatGPT said, oh, you can turn anything into a studio ghibli or a Simpsons thing. And everyone was doing that. Now you're seeing people animate whole Tom and Jerry cartoons based on what they're writing into an AI platform. Products like Figma, even this podcast, right? They develop, they depend on the creativity of people like me talking into a microphone, but I can tell you right now within five years, AI generated podcasts will be, they already are.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, and also make it so you can help designers explain to developers how to go build products in the right way. And that was a huge launch for us. It made it so that 30% of our users who are developers, we could provide them with a much better experience in Figma. And we really just started to invest in our platforms that we could go build more products and also improve the stuff we have.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Correct. But what was good was we kept accelerating and coming out of it, you know, obviously it's a hard thing for the team to absorb that, okay, we thought it was going to be one thing and we're going to all work at Adobe and actually no, we're still in hard charging startup mode. And if anything, we got to prove ourselves even more now. And the team, I think, just, there's really a sense of relief, not because people weren't excited about Adobe, but because we finally had certainty. And then we just rallied, like the launch of dev mode came a few months later.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They're very focused on other aspects of their business. And that was made abundantly clear in the antitrust process to all the regulators too. I don't know if they believed Adobe, but that was what they said, and that's how they behave since.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Know Adobe was a competitor, all of a sudden they were an acquirer and under, and I think rightly so, you were all in. You were Mr. Tim Adobe as I would be if I was in that position. Adobe is a great company. They make great products, but they were very well aware, I mean, they'd been in your data room, they'd really looked at your product, they knew how it worked, they knew what you were doing. No longer could you join forces, so they're once again a competitor. And how does that? It's like...”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Deal basically by mutual agreement, you guys decided to abandon this in December of 2023. It became clear that the government would not allow this at that time. Maybe it would be different today. Who knows? It all depends on who's running the Justice Department. And that was it. I mean, they paid you a breakup fee. It was a billion dollars. But here's the thing I'm curious about.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Think there's any reason why that would beat issue. Our lawyers said that it would almost certainly go through. And so I also felt like, you know, Figma is all about software design development and Adobe is not. So it's just, to me, it was, despite some of the earlier aspects of the company when we first started. Thinking about some of the creative use cases, it just felt very complimentary to me.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“First of all, obviously, I never would have agreed to an acquisition by Adobe if I thought it wouldn't go through. So the breakup fee was something that I was advised that we should have. So we included as part of the negotiation. But honestly, it was a pretty fast part of the negotiation. We were focused much more on. The amount of time I spent talking through Adobe, how exactly will the setup work? Will we have Figma.commy mills or will we have Adobe.commy mills? That part of it was probably 100x longer, not joking than a conversation about the breakup fee because I just didn't”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Part of that agreement was that if for any reason it didn't happen, they would pay you a billion dollars. I have to imagine that on your side there was maybe some concern that the government would not approve it, but immediately after it was announced, the Department of Justice, you know, European Commission, UK regulatory bodies announced that they were going to investigate this as an antitrust violation of antitrust law. And they begin this investigation, which would now last for over a year. Were you Nervous. I mean, we did a story about Harry's razors a few years ago on the show, and a similar thing happened. They were going to be acquired by a bigger brand. There's an antitrust investigation that was launched, and eventually it unraveled. Did you feel like you guys would be able to withstand this?”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, I think the validation was less what we cared about. You know, there's lots of validation from the world, but It was obviously like something that kind of came out of left field for a lot of people, the company, that was not what they expected. Us to go do Made us excited about this Adobe acquisition was First of all, we have a lot of respect for Adobe. Always have. And the chance to continue our work at Figma there. While also doing a lot to help them rethink what could Creative Cloud, other traditional project products look like in age of AI. In a way that really was design centric. That was so exciting to me personally.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“COVID, of course, this was the perfect product for COVID because all of us in remote work, because all of a sudden you could do, you had this collaborative tool that could be done remotely. And so adoption increases. You come out of COVID, just a really... Well placed product. And for a brief moment, you guys had not briefed, but for a moment you had considered going public but decided against it. And then September of 2022, Adobe announces they are going to acquire Figma for $20 billion. So $10 billion over your last fundraise. And that's a big deal. I mean, this was a arguably certainly more than arguably a competitor, they were going to acquire you for $20 billion, which was, I'm sure, extremely exciting to get that kind of validation.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And we started to dig into how people are using Figma. And the thing that kind of kept coming back for this use case of ideation, brainstorming in a remote way was fun. People wanted to have fun while they're doing it. That was the way that they were drawing out the best ideas. There's something about the Figma setting that was enjoyable that element of fun became the differentiator doing things like if you wave your cursor around a lot it turns into a giant hand you can high five somebody or how do you make it so you can you know put stamps on things or have emoji reactions”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, it was pretty wild to see this behavior emerge. And at first, it was like across companies, people were illustrating virtual studies together to like have a sense of community. And then it was within Teams. We started hearing about how people were brainstorming together and using it as like a hangout space. Or I remember one day Slack went down and people were typing in text boxes in Figma for their Slack replacement comms for the day. Obviously, it's not made for that. And it's kind of like we're watching all this behavior and going, wow, we've always seen whiteboarding diagramming, brainstorming cases and figma. I think we need to go build like a virtual whiteboard and diagramming tool.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, the start of 2020, about 100 employees, end of 2020, we were 230, 240. And so we were growing at pretty rapid speed. And we're also opening up presences internationally. At the start of 2020, we put into motion opening our first office outside the United States in London, where created a leader for that. And, you know, it kind of opened right as COVID started and everyone went home. But the thing that happened, I definitely didn't anticipate, which was because of the multiplayer aspect of being in this infinite canvas, people started to hang out in Figma.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Alright, so you guys are just moving forward and you're growing at a pace. And by 2020, You raise a series at a $2 billion valuation. Now, again, you started this in 2012, so kind of, right? So this is eight years on. And by 2020, you guys have really, I mean, you're growing.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I mean, yeah, we looked at, of course, their product and why people were resonating with it. But at the end of the day, it was like, no, I think our roadmap is correct. And we just continued to push ahead to the things that we thought people really needed. And I feel like that was the right strategy.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, just to jump ahead and vision eventually shut down in 2024, they don't exist anymore. But it is amazing, right? Because at the time, they could have been the figma killer, right? And that was the prediction by some people. But how did you guys, you had an advantage because you'd been working on it longer, but were you looking at what they were doing to make sure you were staying ahead of the curve?”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We were pretty worried because the mind share they had was so huge. And they made this huge announcement and said, we're coming out with Invision Studio. I remember for our series B round, even with all the traction we were starting to get and how inevitable it was starting to seem. There were certain VCs that take the meeting, but then they go at the end of the meeting. You know, look. Impressed with what you've done and a great job. But I just cannot reconcile this with the work of Vision's doing. Like, I'm sorry.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I know literally being Adobe came out with Adobe XD, which was their offering, not web-based, but a very solid and interesting desktop application. We also saw, and this is probably the one that for me felt more concerning at the time, there was a company called Envision, which had been around since we started.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Meantime, as you started to really explode in growth and usage, and I mean, can't talk about every funding round, but you do another, 2015 was the last round, and then there's a series B in 2018, and then a Series C in 2019, which valued the company at half a billion dollars. Did you start to see competitors come out? I mean, you must have by that point started to attract the attention of the adobe of the world.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, it's more about what's the next thing to go do? How do we go and make sure that we, you know, there's still, even as people were adopting, there was a lot of things that they told us they needed. And those were the same things that would cause people not to adopt. And then separately, we started to see that our assumptions about the ways teams work were maybe correct for a small teams, but not as correct for large teams. Larger teams need different ways to Organize their work, they need different security things. And so we need to meet the needs of these larger teams as well”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, it's not, I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that from the time you've released it to general availability. It was a hit. I mean, people really adopted it. Designers really began to adopt it. I mean, the parallel I can think of, it's not the best parallel. But a little bit is Instagram or Snap. I mean, not obviously the same kind of virality because that appeals to just a mass consumer audience. But for designers and your intuition about companies hiring more designers was true. It proved correct. Were you, I mean, when people start to adopt this pretty quickly in large numbers. You like, yep, I knew it.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, yeah, for sure. I'm patient. I've always been impatient about how fast can we build this thing. That's just my default state. But anxious is the wrong word. I was, you know, very confident in our approach. No one else was doing it the way we were doing it. It was just like, how do we get this to market? How do we get this in front of people? And how do we build a great product?”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Think the sleepless nights were more because I was just so excited about what was possible to build, at least once we got on the track of what would become Figma. I think between when we started and when we got to, we're going to go build a design tool. That period I had sleepless nights because we didn't know what we were doing. Once we're on that track and we had it validated and I talked to people and I knew what they needed, no, I mean, it was more just my head was spinning about there's so much that's possible.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So you start charging for this. And in the meantime, you guys are presumably working on ways to make it better. You start in August of 2012 and you're shipping something out in December of 2015. So that's a long time. Just for a moment, during that time, that three-year period, when you didn't have anything yet to show for, were you feeling anxious? Were you feeling like did you have a lot of sleepless nights?”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And, you know, at that point. I just had a conversation with our board where they took me out to lunch. It was like a pretty hard conversation, I think, for them. And they were just going, Dylan, you got to be more commercial. I'm like, what does that mean? They're like, you got to be more commercial. And I'm like, do you mean do I have to like say more sales terminology and stuff like that? Like, what are you getting at? And I think what they meant was price the product. And then that didn't really break through. But when this design leader came and said, we can't use it unless you price the product. I was like, oh, everyone, we got to go charge for the product as fast as we can. So I was a little dense on it, but it got there eventually.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, Microsoft was actually really cool about the way they did this. One of their design leaders came to our office and spent some real time with me. And he, I think, was sussing out like, are they serious or not? And at the end, he goes, you know, your tool is free. I said, I know we got to make some improvements, I think, before we pay. He goes, well, we're going to have to probably rip it out at Microsoft if you don't charge us soon. Because we got to make sure you stay in business”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Found out that Microsoft had designers there who were really using it, but I guess corporate said, hey, you can't keep using this product as a free product, and it's not reliable enough. If you really, we can't trust it. Who knows what's going to happen to it? The idea was that because it was free, it was somehow not fully baked. And that was sort of a kick in your butt, right? You thought, well, we better start charging for, or we're going to lose Microsoft.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We definitely were playing a charge, but knowing what to charge, how to charge, you know, we wanted to kind of watch people use the product first. And also, I personally, after all this time of being told it's not ready by a lot of people, I was not in the mindset of like, it's working. I just had in my head there's so much more we gotta build.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, I was doing everything I could to try to be there for him. And also at the same time, I mean, he did really want me to be progressing Figma. He was really excited for what we're doing. Yeah, it was definitely back and forth. There were days where things were really dark and I would just not be in the office and I'd go up and see him. It was unclear sort of How long he had. He was in just such immense pain, but his body was an athlete his entire life. So he's a strong dude. And even with the immense amounts of pain that comes with cancer spread everywhere, including bone, his body was just holding on. And yeah, so that launch happened, you know, he was very proud to see it. But yeah, he passed quite soon after”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“All right, Dylan, that year I just want to ask you, because we're talking about you professionally focused on this, trying to put this out there. But this is a tough year. I mean, your dad is very sick. How Balancing this really intensive development, but also going back and forth to see him.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So much happened organically. It was kind of like anything visual that could be created ended up being created at some point in Figma.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Did you find that people were starting to use this in ways that you didn't anticipate? Because initially it was for web design, software design, but eventually people would use it, designers and agencies would use it for restaurant menus or even the interface on a screen on an airplane. Did you anticipate that, or did that happen organically by users?”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, I think that that was maybe the mainstream view of the design culture then. But there were also a lot of people that signed up for the waitlist. And then we started to, every week, let more people off the waitlist into the product. And we saw right away that people were using it, even without everything we knew that they needed. And then every time we added additional functionality to the product, we saw that conversion of people going from, okay, you're off the wait list to you're actually using it, it would go up. So early customers like Coda, Notion, Microsoft, Uber. Mind, body, you know, there's a bunch that started to really use the platform.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, a lot of designers at that point were coming from an agency culture where Know you go explore, you come up with a few solutions for the client, you present three solutions, and then you have a grand reveal of like, here is the big, amazing thing that you should obviously do. And that's just not the way that product development should work on a team internally. Instead, there's a wide range of things you consider. You collaboratively need to work through them. But people, you know, we're so used to that agency method of working that, you know, some of the initial comments in the launch were stuff like if this is the future of design, I'm changing careers.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Very mixed, so I think, and again, it was closed, so it's not like everyone's using it and giving it a mixture views. It was mixture views to the perception of what it could be. And there are some people that immediately got it, but a lot of people went, why would I want to design collaboratively?”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, we made sure that we had a really great early blog post, formed a press strategy, created a launch date, got out there. And it was controversial, honestly.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, he was identified as someone who had just really unique experience that was relevant to what we're doing. And yeah, I think he came in and week one was like, man, what company I just joined? This is some weird stuff going on here, but very quickly he kind of got a sense of where people were at and said, Dylan, we got to ship this thing. Let's figure out what it is that's wrong, why people are not resonating with it. But my sense is there's only a few features missing. We already know that we need to redesign it visually. And he did a presentation to the team end of week, first week, about kind of rallying cry of, you know, you all have been working so hard, so long. We're really close. Here's what it's going to take. Here's the gap. And we rallied. We got it out.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I guess fortunately, right, right around this time, you were able to hire someone, a lead engineer named Shokuamoto, who was a guy who had worked at a lot of other companies like Adobe. And he was identified as somebody who could, I guess, kind of help steady the ship a bit.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I first called John Willie, who we talked about and said, hey. Something happened, and you know, I'm taking it a few days away from the office. I got to clear my head. And John's like, whoa, okay. And, you know, he knew I had been going through stuff with my dad and that things were getting pretty tough medically. And, you know, he went into the office and talked with folks. And I think his sort of Sense was okay, like this is salvageable. Don't raise your voice, but like, Just gotta get this thing shipped, and we can get this back on track.”
2025-06-16 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Figma: Dylan Field · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT