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  1. “Let me complicate this a little bit. I want to come back to the relative strength of the media industry, its appetite for fighting Trump, its ability to pay the bill for fighting Trump compared to the tech industry, which certainly has the money to pay to fight. There's some structural stuff I want to dive into with media versus tech there. But let me complicate this by asking about TikTok. You talk about the voices of the American people and the First Amendment being preeminent. I think a lot of young people, particularly in our audience, saw TikTok as being the channel for their voice, as being where they actually got their news. We just ran a story on the Verge about young people overwhelmingly preferring news influencers on TikTok to traditional media like the New York Times. I have a lot of thoughts about that, but the data is clear. The sentiment is clear. They preferred TikTok. The Congress of the United States passed a law banning TikTok or at least forcing a sale to TikTok that went to the Supreme Court. It was upheld as an appropriate use of power to perhaps silence the speech of Americans on certain platforms.”

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  2. “For all of these media companies, they would win ultimately because the First Amendment is what is at the heart of the protection of our democracy. And because these companies are so wealthy or so afraid, they don't exercise the right and instead they just pay the piper. They pay Donald Trump whatever tribute that he is looking for. But ultimately it's a disservice to our country, especially given the role which those companies play in providing the ability for the voices of the American people to be heard.”

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  3. “Actually, illegal use of power by the Federal Communications Commission or by the White House rather than contest it, instead just try to put it behind them. And I think it's pretty clear that in each of these instances, they had a very high probability of winning in court in terms of the exercise of their First Amendment rights in the same way that Will Mahale, the law firm in Massachusetts who contested Donald Trump won in court of law firms from New York City like Paul Weiss and others, they instead bent the knee. But there's no question that if they had taken the same kind of strong defense of their First Amendment rights, their due process rights as did Wilma Hale, the law firm in Boston, they would have won. I would say the same.”

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  4. “Yeah, the judgment of Trump using it, but it's also, from my perspective, it's the judgment of CBS or other networks or other social media companies to just roll over and not contest what the government is trying to do. They have First Amendment rights. First Amendment rights are preeminent. And unfortunately, what we're seeing in 2025 increasingly are companies, media companies, who are willing to bend a knee, willing to pay the fine, willing to accept the”

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  5. “Terms of making telecom providers do cybersecurity measures. There's a lot of authority there, and at least what Trump and his administration have figured out is we should try to use it in a way that other administrations have not tried to use it. Do you think the presence of that authority itself is a problem, or is it just the judgment of Trump in using that authority?”

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  6. “I want to ask you about that. I want to ask about specifics. Obviously, there are specific areas where Trump and the Trump administration's use of power is succeeding and failing. There are just the general nature of Americans not liking to be told what to do seems to be pushing back. There's a structure of the American government itself and whether that is holding fast in the face of an authoritarian leader. The thing that strikes me though is it turns out there's a lot of latent power in the executive in the United States and Trump and the people of his administration are just trying to use that power as aggressively as possible in a way that maybe is new but relies on that power existing. I think Brendan Carr is actually a great example of this, right? His thesis of the FCC is look at all this authority we have that we don't use. Look at my interpretation of news distortion to go and punish broadcasters who have licenses. Look at the authority that I might give up in terms of”

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  7. “We saw the No Kings movement be created and put five, six, seven million people out on the streets of America a few weeks before the election. That's why we saw the election result in the first week in November across this country repudiating this political philosophy. But when we're not done, we're in a battle and we just have to do it every single day because he's not going to stop. Therefore, we cannot stop.”

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  8. “George Orwell's 198 Be in charge of who we are as a country. He has weaponized the federal communications commission and the federal Trade Commission. His goal to have Thought control over the American people. He's turned the Commission into the federal censorship commission and installed Brendan Carr as the chairman and it's all towards the goal of ensuring that no one is ever able to criticize effectively Donald Trump. There is a backlash to them Is doing in weaponizing his administration. It's not going to stop. It's who he is. He admires Putin. He admires authoritarian leaders in countries around the rest of the world. Don't understand why he can't do the same thing that they do in their countries. Is on the line. The First Amendment is the beating. And as he seeks to inject himself into the business of the media”

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  9. “Sadly, we have only distractions to talk about once again here in Dakota. There's a lot to talk to you about. I want to talk about Brian Carr and the FCC. I've covered the FCC very deeply over the years, as you know. I want to talk about AI regulation, which seems to be coming up in a lot of different ways lately. I want to talk about the TikTok band. But first, I want to ask a question. I've been asking basically every politician who comes into Coder that I think really sums up what I've been hearing from our audience, which is simply, Senator, what the hell is going on?”

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  10. “Center had Markey, Senator from the state of Massachusetts. Welcome back to Dakota. I'm excited to talk to you. I have to reveal something to you. The last time we spoke, the last time I interviewed you in the background, I was furiously refreshing a window to buy Taylor Swift tickets. And I was like, I can't. I'm interviewing. I have to sound smart, but my niece and nephew want these tickets. I got the tickets, and I think the interview went well, but I've always wanted to let you know that.”

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  11. “Laws it doesn't like for political reasons is a pretty big problem. Now, Senator Markey actually voted against debating TikTok, and I wanted to know if he's heard anything about the status of the app or the status of a deal. And if anything, he's learned since that vote has changed his mind about the potential national security issues that were the argument for a ban. Of course, Senator Mark and I also talked about the bigger picture, especially as we head into an election year. His answer is about how to push back against authoritarianism were pretty forceful, although I pushed him pretty hard on whether the rest of the Democratic Party, especially its current leadership, is as interested in fighting back as he is. He doesn't hold back with me. I think you're really going to like this episode. Okay, Senator Ed Markey, here we go.”

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  12. “Conditions. If he doesn't like the speech they promote, and many media companies like CBS Parent Company of Paramount go along with it to get what they want. Senator Markey has a lot to say about all this, especially ahead of Chairman Carr's upcoming appearance in front of Congress on December 17th. But there's more going on in the world of free speech. I also have a lot of questions about the supposed TikTok ban, which no one seems to know anything about, even though the House and Senate actually passed a law that would force Byteans, TikTok's parent company, to either sell some assets or stop operating in the United States entirely. That law was held to be constitutional by the Supreme Court, even though it has profound free speech implications for all of TikTok's users. But despite being the original proponent of a TikTok ban during his first term, President Trump has now promised to deal with Byte Dance that would keep TikTok operating in some way. So instead of enforcing the law, his administration simply hasn't. In having an administration flat out ignore”

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  13. “Hello and welcome to Dakoder. I'm Neil I Patel, editor in chief of the Verge. And Decoder is my show about big ideas and other problems. Today I'm talking with Senator Ed Markey of Massachusetts. Well, you'll hear me start with the only question I think anyone should be asking of any politician in federal government. What the hell is going on here? Senator Markey did not mince words with his answer. You'll hear him compare the Trump administration to the fascist dystopia in Orwell's nineteen eighty four and say that democracy itself is on the line. In one of the places that Senator Markey and I agree that democracy seems most on the line is when it comes to the First Amendment in the increasing pressure that Trump administration has put on free speech in America. If you've been listening to this show or the Vergecast this year, you know that I've been particularly focused on FCC Chairman Brendan Carr and the pressure that he is putting on free speech. Carr talks like a mobster when it comes to threatening broadcasters with fines and overbearing merger”

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