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Emma Little-Pengelly

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“Now, to be honest, it looks absolutely horrific. So I don't know. I don't think I'm scared of many things, but I'm not sure. It's just for me. I think maybe a bit more of an authentic jungle experience would be what I would be looking for.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think it's important to say as well, I have one of my seat to the assembly and one a seat to Westminster, of course, that it has been very up and down. But, yeah, you know, look, I think the issue of heading off, I love animals. I'm very passionate about preservation. But I'm also somebody, you know, who really enjoys new experiences. I've had the opportunity to go on different trips over my life. And the ones I've perhaps enjoyed the most are the things I may not have chosen to do necessarily. They were part of a program and I have found myself surprised. And I think what that teaches me in life is to really push your boundaries, to try new things, try different things. Maybe that's a good thing for this job.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Off the depths and widths and richness of who we are as people. We're much more than simply just a unionist of orange rather than green and I think that is something that's important to try to get across.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's interesting hearing you read that back because clearly to me that shows I was hurt and I don't know what was on the back of, but I actually do think for good or for bad that I have become somebody with a much thicker skin. I don't get as impacted by what happens in social media as I did. But looking back, I know at times I did let it get to me. Again, it comes back to the point of being and feeling misunderstood. I think that there is so much depth to unionism and the unionist people of Northern Ireland. And I think, you know, sometimes we do see ourselves characterised in a particular way, which does not reflect either what we contribute to this United Kingdom, but nor the thoughts and aspirations and motivations and how many different roles that we've played in so many different things. And I really feel as somebody in public life now that that's something that I really want to advocate for, to get people a greater understanding.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think that's right. I think it's always difficult to be in on social media as a woman in public life anyway. I think if you are a socially conservative woman in public life, it's very hard. But of course, like I've seen that evolution of social media since I started, I came onto Twitter, I think, in 2015. Not even that long ago. And at that stage, it was all about engagement. You may recall those days. And over the course of those years, it became increasingly difficult, I think, for anybody in the media, in public life to engage on Twitter. There's a very, very strong negative aspect to it. There are a lot of trolls on there. So it is challenging. But, you know, look, I would always say I am Feissly. I'm very opinionated, but I'm also somebody who hugely respects difference and different opinions. My friends are very mixed group of all kinds of different opinions”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Form these are the CM issues that people have common across the United Kingdom. They're difficult issues to try to resolve. I am somebody who is deeply interested in trying to do that, to find solutions to those big, big challenges that we face, people on waiting lists, the issues with special educational needs, the state of our schools estate for example.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, look my view is that democratic unionism is a very centre, centre-right party. We've got a huge number of very sensible policies on health and education, on the economy. But of course what we've seen across the UK and Ireland in the last 15 years is that huge social change in relation to these issues. And when people say about Northern Ireland falling behind, they seem to forget, of course, that the same-sex marriage vote only took place in Westminster in 2013. These votes only took place in Ireland in the last 10 years. So these are very recent changes. Northern Ireland is now in the same place as elsewhere across this United Kingdom and Ireland. But of course it has been challenging, that has been challenging. We have taken a very strong position on those issues. But moving forward, I think what people really want us to focus on in this assembly is fixing our public services, really driving through that health and education.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“London really playing their part in making this United Kingdom a success. You know, the big challenge that we have moving forward will be across our United Kingdom to make sure that the regional disparities that we inevitably have, that those are addressed, that actually that prosperity agenda that we want, we want the UK to start growing and to start growing at a good rate. But of course, that must mean that our regions across this United Kingdom, not just Scotland, England, Wales, but of course those regions within England, the north of England, in terms of Cornwall and other areas where there are economic challenges as well, we have to, I hope, in terms of lifting all boats with a tie, that has to be the agenda.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The dangers in terms of our union, I think it's that lack of vigilance. I think what has been happening, particularly since Brexit, is that Sinn F ⁇ in and Republicanisms have been trying to build this momentum, this sense that we are on this inevitable trajectory towards a united Ireland. And yet the Poles do not play that out. Political nationalism has around 30% of the vote the same as they had back in 1998. That hasn't grown. But of course what has happened is that there has been this disaggregation within the broader unionist vote towards parties in the centre. But it is my challenge to get out there and to sell that strong case that we have for the union. Some great examples where Northern Ireland contributes twice as many people per head of the population to our armed forces. Many of our young people from Northern Ireland go over to work in finance and tech and in the city of”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think my party leader, Sir Jeffrey, said that, my goodness Mary Lou MacDonald must have the longest arms in Ireland if it's within touch and distance because we, look, we are always vigilant. Of course we are. As unionists, as somebody who's absolutely passionate about this United Kingdom, I believe our United Kingdom is stronger with all of its parts together, with Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales as part of that. I believe Northern Ireland's future is much better within our United Kingdom, the sixth largest economy in the world, a place where we've had our shared history and heritage, but in my view a very strong future.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“From GB to NI, and if there are problems are being encountered, then those need to be checked out because they shouldn't exist.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What you've said actually is a great demonstration of the problems we face, and that is exactly why, unfortunately, we had to take a very strong stance to try to get this addressed, because Northern Ireland disproportionately relies on the internal UK market. Our consumers rely on Great British goods in terms of our UK-wide supermarkets, and many, many other industries, retail shops and consumers do as well. I believe we've got a good deal on this, but of course the problems emerge the UK government needs to step up and address that as well. So hopefully the issue that you've encountered there is something that has been resolved, and it's a case of when the legislation and the process are fully implemented over the course of the next number of weeks, this will not occur. But of course, a big part of this is also the knowledge of operators, the knowledge of businesses around what paperwork is or isn't required. And, you know, the big message is, look, there should be this free flow of goods across.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But that's exactly why we continue to raise these issues now. The full agreement that we have done with the UK government has not yet fully come in. I am hoping that the problems that you have encountered with that will indeed have been resolved and it's a case of those processes working itself through. But that is a really good example, Nick, of exactly the reasons why we have pushed this issue. And look, in my view, we shouldn't have had to push this issue as hard as we had to. I think that the UK government should have recognised there are big problems here. This barrier in the IRC between Northern Ireland and Great Britain emerged as a result of the original sort of backstop into the protocol arrangements. I always made the point that the integrity of this internal UK market should never have been on the table for the negotiations, as of course the integrity of the EU single market was not on the table.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Our history, but that doesn't mean it's absolutely not about attacking anybody else. This is about celebrating our own identity, something that is common right across the world, never mind across the United Kingdom, where we should be able to celebrate the fact that we have these distinct identities, but that doesn't just simply be what we are. Of course we are much more than that, and that's why you will have noticed, I talk much more about not just the parading aspect of unionist identity here, but the fact that it's this rich tapestry of Ulster Scots, of Irish, of Anglo-Irish, you know, the British in Ireland are very much the people of the Oscar Wildes, of Jemson Whiskey and Guinness, and that is largely misunderstood by many people, that there's a much greater complexity there in terms of the people who I have in my history and heritage.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was a member of parliament back at the Confidence and Supply, and it's a really good example of that misunderstanding of Ulster Unionists or unionists from Ulster, from Northern Ireland. Some of the things that were said about the DUP, and I was a member of Parliament for the DUP, I didn't recognise at all there was just this terrible caricature. I always say that if you think back to that sketch of, I think it was a Harry Enfield sketch of Billy Ulsterman, that for some reason that that's in so many people's minds where unionism is at, that's the caricature of unionism. But of course unionism is much more than that. That isn't in any way the person that I am. And of course, yes, I do love my culture, my identity, but of course those identities, you know, if you take the 12th of July, this is an occasion of celebration with family. It's a celebration of face of”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think, look, I think this has been a huge part of my life, this sense of the frustration of being misunderstood, the frustration of my community being misunderstood, of my cultural expressions, my identity. And I decided at a very young age I was only, I think, about 11 that I wanted to be a barrister. I engaged in debating and the arguments. I loved getting involved in that. But most of all, what really interested me was trying to be an advocate, to try to explain things, because I think in almost everything I came across, there was an argument to be made, there was a case to be made, but perhaps people were not best placed to make it for themselves.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But I was very feisty. As you can imagine, I was very politically opinionated and a very feisty young person. I always think when I talk to people now and they think I'm quite a spurted opinionated person, that if only they'd known me back when I was 18 years of age, I came to Queen's University in 1998. It was just after the sign of the Belfast Agreement. It was a massive issue in Northern Ireland to dominate in terms of all of the discussions. But of course, Tony Blair, New Labour were coming in, tuition fees were being talked about. So it wasn't just the constitutional issues at university here that dominated, but for the first time for me, it was also the non-constitutional issues and really getting involved in some of those policy issues like opposing tuition fees and the reduction of student grants. And that's really, I guess, when I very much got involved in politics.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Something she believed really passionately in, and every single day of my childhood, you know, she would have emphasised that.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, look, I think that my family were in challenging financial circumstances. Of course, they were because of the change my mother had given up work to look after us. It must have been incredibly difficult for her. She was left with really four young children, I think about 10 and under. Her husband was away. He had been the person who worked, who brought in that income to the family. So, you know, she was caught in the middle of a very public storm around all of these issues with very, very difficult financial situation and she did an incredible job. You know, my mother has always been such a huge source of inspiration to me, this idea that, you know, you can change your future for the better. You can regardless of your circumstances, regardless of the finances around that, that, you know, for example, education is something that if you work hard enough, you can succeed at, and that will make a really positive change to your life. You know, I don't know, my mother didn't go to university, but it”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I have a very close relationship with my father. I've said this when I first came into public life back in 2015. I made clear people make different decisions in their lives. My father, of course, denies many of the allocations that are thrown in his direction, but ultimately the choices that he has made in his life are his decisions. They are different decisions than I would make. I've made very, very clear where I stand on those issues. But look, you know, my father is my father, my daddy's the only one that I will ever have, and I love him, as I said at the time, unconditionally. I have a very close relationship with my father. We have many things in common, and I continue to have that very close relationship with him.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Where we travel to, yes, we travel to Paris to visit with him. It was probably my first time actually leaving Northern Ireland and going abroad anywhere. So it was, of course, a very strange experience. But, you know, I think in any of these things, when something traumatic happens you as a child, all of the differences, the issues, it all stands out and in such a distinct part of my life and it gave me this real drive around, I suppose, trying to take a little bit more control of my life. I recognised at a very early age that education was a great way of taking that control, of shaping my life for the future, because I think like most children in those circumstances, you lose every sense of control. It's an uncontrollable situation, something that's happening to you, and you can be very unhappy and very sad in those circumstances. So, of course, like many, many children, you seize on something that you”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Impact really that had on my family life. I'm always very conscious that for so many families in the 80s and the 90s the loss that they suffered, the bereavement of their family members had been killed, of course that hurt that story is the most important one to be told. But as a child of slightly different circumstances of the troubles, of course it had a massive impact on me.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, you know, again, from the perspective of a child, I didn't understand any of the ins and outs of what really was happening in those particular circumstances. And I think to be absolutely clear, the vast, vast majority of people who went into the RUC, went into the UDR in terms of trying to defend the community were completely legitimate. Certainly from my point of view, I've always stood very strongly against paramilitarism. I've always stood very strongly that there was always an alternative to that. But, you know, placing myself into that context as a child, of course it turned my life upside down. Undoubtedly, it turned my life upside down. My father was away from the family home, very sustained period of time. There was a huge amount of publicity about the case, probably more so within we were impacted, of course, but it just seemed a relentless publicity around that.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think that's right. You know, of course, I was a very young child at that time. I was only six years of age when the Anglo-Irish Agreement had been signed. But there was, there's no doubt from speaking to people who were active in politics at that time that there was this very strong view that by compromise, by this idea of weakening the union through either some sort of joint sovereignty with the Irish Republic, if you were conceding or compromising those issues, you were weakening the union. Now, looking back, we can obviously place it within the context of wider events. But of course, people acted at that time as they felt at that time.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And a very, very difficult circumstances where we were under relentless, violent attack week after week after week, people were being killed in their own homes, in their cars, on their way to work by the IRA. And that real sense that our British government should be standing up and protecting us. It was a view shared by many of the border communities of the unionist people at that time that we were on the frontier and we wanted that support.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“For the people of Marcatella, we were very strongly unionist. The majority of people in Northern Ireland wanted to stay within this United Kingdom. And there was this sense around the Anglo-Irish Agreement and other negotiations that perhaps the UK government wanted to put Northern Ireland into some form of a halfway house with the Republic of Ireland by signing away aspects in relation to sovereignty. But of course, at a more fundamental level, it was because we were at that time fighting a war against the IRA, the people of the town were in the UDR, they were in the RUC, they were standing up against terrorism. It was a very clear narrative off the town and I think it was felt that actually the UK government should stand up and defend people like the neighbours and the family members and others in that town that we're doing their best really.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Look absolutely, of course, in the 80s, and I explained this to young people today, and they can scarcely believe it, but of course we only had a small number of TV channels, and everybody watched the news. As a child, you would have watched the news with your parents. So, you know, I would have been very conscious of the political debates. My first political memory was really Margaret Thatcher signing the Anglo-Irish Agreement at that time within my community. It was seen as a huge betrayal. I remember the tangible sense of betrayal around that time. I remember watching her on television signing that document.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Remember walking through the town, and there was just glass everywhere. The town really pulled together. There were teams of people out putting up and boarding up windows where the glass had been bombed out. But it was a real sense of a collective attack on our community, on our town, but a real sense of resilience as well. There was a sense that we were absolutely would not allow ourselves to be defeated by this. Again, it wasn't the only attack, of course. There'd been mortar attacks throughout my childhood on the police station.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Again, a very, very significant incident of my childhood. I think that fear, that sense of violence was always very close in my mind. I think it's incredibly sad when you look back that I have no memory of anything but that. Of course, as a child growing up, it was very clear cut to us. You know, the enemy was republicanism. Republicanism wanted to kill the people of my town. They wanted to bomb the town. That was through the eyes of a child very, very simply. And of course, as I got older, you understand the complexity of these things much better. But through the eyes of a child growing up in Marcillo, it was a very frightening place. And that bomb that day is something that absolutely stands out in my memory, a huge amount of devastation arising from that. There was barely a house or a business in Market Hill that wasn't impacted by that, wasn't significantly damaged by that. And, you know, it was a warm summer afternoon.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't remember anything different from the context in which I grew up, the very politicized situation in Market Hill, the challenges that that brought with us. And Market Hill was a very politicised place. It was right on the edge of South Armagh. Many families who had been in the security forces, for example, many of the Protestant families around South Arma had moved up to Market Hill due to the threat of violence against their family. So the small town, an overwhelmingly Protestant town on the very edge of South Arma and very Republican area. So that of course brought challenges. There were an awful lot of threats. There were bomb attacks, mortar attacks, bomb scares as we would have called them, which was when an alert would have come through, including when I was at the primary school and we would have been bomb scared out. We would have had to physically have to leave. And of course, many people shot.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, Michelle would have been more of a political activist within the party as opposed to an advisor within the system. So I wouldn't have worked with her as an advisor over those years. I've started as a special advisor back in 2007, so somewhat 16, 17 years ago. Yes, I got to know her. I worked as a special advisor for Arlene Foster when she was First Minister. Michelle was Deputy First Minister. So yes, I've known Michelle, but in terms of a working relationship, we're really just developing that out at the moment.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't think so, but I do think it's important to set a very positive tone. At the end of the day, I think people right across, not just in Northern Ireland, I think right across the United Kingdom, right across so many places, they do need positivity right now now in politics. You very rarely get goodwill. You very rarely get the opportunity to do all of the nice stuff and to have that type of positivity. But at the moment in Northern Ireland, we do have that. And I think it's important to get out there. There's been so many big issues facing us right across the United Kingdom, and that includes in Northern Ireland. We've had the COVID years, we've had economic challenges, of course we've had the cost of living crisis. There are so many things, I think, that can cause that despair. But I think people want hope.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Used the word even Northern Ireland, and yet some weeks later we have Michelle and myself at a football game supporting the Northern Ireland team with young people with Northern Ireland scarfs and Northern Ireland hats, passionate Northern Ireland supporters. I think that's a really positive move forward.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They absolutely, and you know, both Michelle and I had this discussion that we were very keen to set a positive tone. We wanted to really send a message that we are going to take on this task to work together and to try to work constructively. And that has to mean the respect for each other's traditions. It must mean a respect for the motivations, the interests, the things that matter to each other, because otherwise things can fall apart very, very quickly. And the fight in terms of the recognition of Northern Ireland, the recognition of the legitimacy of Northern Ireland, that is something that has been at the very heart of the disputes here in this part of the world for many, many decades. The Belfast Good Friday Agreement, of course, recognised the principle of consent, recognised the legitimacy of Northern Ireland. But we know that the likes of Sinn F ⁇ in, for example, right up until very recent weeks, wouldn't have”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Absolutely. And I think it is a testimony to how far we have come over the course of not just the last 25 years, but the last 100 years, 100 years ago, Northern Ireland had just been created. And yet here we have an image of people from very different perspectives to women of very different aspirations. I want a stronger United Kingdom, the First Minister, Michelle O'Neill, has an aspiration of a 32 county independent Ireland, completely different aspirations, but the fact that both of us are there supporting the Northern Ireland women's team with young people really, really proud of their Northern Ireland team. And that's really something that I have noticed over the last number of years that regardless of community background, what we're really seeing are people who are just really proud, young people who are really proud to be part of Northern Ireland, to be from Northern Ireland and support the likes of the”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Despair for many people, and really I think right from the beginning of this journey that I'm on as Deputy First Minister along with Michelle as First Minister, I wanted to set a really positive tone. I want to send that message that actually, despite of our differences here in Northern Ireland, that actually that difference can be a strength. It allows us to see things from different perspectives. It allows us to tackle challenges with all of the broader range of experiences that we have. And that can be a really good thing in terms of policy development. That can be a really good thing in terms of government. So really to try to work constructively together to be that source of hope, not of the despair, that even over the last 25 years many people may have felt.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think for many, many decades in Northern Ireland it was a very dark time. There were so many lives that were blighted by violence, by conflict, but also because of that fear. And there's no doubt what happened here held people back. I think it damaged what they could do in their lives, what they could achieve in their lives. And really, we're 25 years on from the Belfast Good Friday Agreement, more than 25 years on from some of those ceasefires. There are still challenges, but the world that I see around me in Northern Ireland is dramatically different than the world that I grew up with in the 80s and the 90s. And that is a really positive thing. There is so much more to be done. But, you know, despite of that positive change over the last 25 years, I do think some of the narrative of division, the instability, the challenges that we have faced can and has been a source of”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think both Michelle and I have, I guess, very similar circumstances to some extent, but also very, very different ones of growing up in the 80s and 90s in Northern Ireland. But I think in that sense, we almost straddle a number of generations. We are old enough to remember the difficult days of the past and the trauma and the violence. And, of course, all of those negotiations to bring about peace. But we're also very conscious when we talk to younger people who don't have a memory of those days. So we are very much in that sort of central generation of politics here in Northern Ireland. And I think there is much work to be done. And of course, there's value, I think, in the experiences that we've had and what we bring to the table in relation to trying to move Northern Ireland forward.”
2024-03-07 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Emma Little-Pengelly One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source