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  1. Well, I asked my doctor just recently because I was being tested every six months how long I had. And he said, you've got, well, cancer's gone. You've got maybe 10 years or more. And that was a shock to me. And so that's when I decided to sort of, oh, I raised money, help and encourage this cancer fund. And to encourage people, because are we going to beat this thing? You know, I meet more and more survivors of this thing. And I think this is the part of humanity that I really love. We get better. We got people working away quietly, doing all this great work. And it never hits the television. It's all about politics and shouting at each other. So I would say that humanity is an extraordinary species. We're amazing homo sapien species, homo sapien sapiens, and our struggle is against the stupidity and folly, but also we are improving, we are capable of improving life.

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  2. The reaction was extraordinary. It was really great. I mean, first of all, the people I first talked to, my doctor and my publishers, they both cried. And it's been very touching. And then when I came out on Twitter and I was inundated with people who had had relatives or friends and who said, thank you. And I've had a lot of people just thank me. In fact, you know, I mean, I was fortunate enough to be the survivor. And it's because I was diagnosed early. So I said, we must do it a charity to encourage people to test early because now we have, we can, they're just getting breakthroughs and also as well as research. So I did Ally with stand-up to cancer and I started the Brightside Fund. It's probably one of the best things I've ever done.

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  3. I wrote to Paul to ask him because he owns that one. This isn't a Beatles song. So it's a PMC copyright. And he said, yes, you can do it, but just let me know when it airs so I can be sure to miss it.

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  4. Well, the public reaction was great. And I thought it was after I did the marsh singer and I knew they were going to ask me for due publicity because it was due.

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  5. And I laughed because we'd written songs about this guy receiving the news when he heard that he was dying, Freddie took it very well. Oh shit, Jesus Christ. And things like that. So what could I do but laugh when it's now on, you know?

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  6. That's right. So that's what happened. I mean, he said, perfect. That's perfect. I thank you very much. And then 10 years later, we're actually doing a test. And I say, what's that? And he says it's pancreatic cancer

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  7. What have you learned? So I was trying to think, well, all the boomers are going to die. Death is a really fascinating subject. Why don't I try and write the death, the musical? It's exactly the wrong title for a broad race show. Which, of course, it was because nobody wanted to buy it. Right. Right.

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  8. Explain death to me. Spam a lot had been a big hit and you think, well, what are we going to do now? And I tried to do the life of Brian and John Cleese said, no, which was amazing to me as a musical one.

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  9. I have a very good doctor, and that's the reason I'm alive today. My medical practitioner practices preventative medicine. So every year he puts us in and we blood tests and go through the old scan or two. And I was writing a thing called Death, the Musical some years ago.

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  10. But I don't want to be. You know, when I had cancer, I suddenly thought to myself, You've got to stop being anti people, some people and pro some people. Everybody gets cancer. And you can now, if you're going to appeal to people, you should appeal to people who've got the disease, not because they conform to whatever patterns of thought I believe in And so I think I'm in a grace period of, you know, I'm in remission. So I have a grace period to... Yeah, and not be quite so correct or not be correct. I mean, righteous, and I know what it is, I know what to say, I know what to put you down.

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  11. I mean, yeah, I mean, from a bitter viewpoint, it's hilarious, you know, because, you know, how would you possibly solve gun violence? Well, actually, very easily, but nobody will ever address it because there's no money in it. You can't get elected on it. You know, I mean, it's very paradoxical and funny. But, you know, you have to be kind of cynical. Like I think I am slightly. Much less.

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  12. I stopped because I found myself completely addicted to it. And it's the same. And it was always like always hope coming or then a bit of disappointment, hope and disappointment. And I thought, this is really anxiety making. And why people are so much depressed these days is I think there's just too much news. There isn't enough news for breaking news all day. It used to be half an hour on the BBC at nine o'clock. But now, and it's also then divided into partisan news and this news and fake news. And so I found that life was better without it. And if I go and live in a place, And so, you know, my wife was American, obviously. She follows it and she votes and, you know, agitates and does all that. And I don't. I'm afraid I don't have anything fun.

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  13. Well, I mean, when you say better than trust, I have a friend called Jeffrey Archer who had dinner with him. Yeah. And he told me all the really good gossip. But the only trouble was I couldn't recognize any of the names. So I try not even to keep up too much with American politics because it was so depressing. And I have to escape to France to get away from the endless news cycle.

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  14. Well, I am British and Passport, which now means I can't go anywhere on the continent for more than 90 days. Right, okay. That's one of the great advantages of Brexit is they've stopped me going to my house in France. I hate them intensely. I've always hated conservatives, I'm afraid to say. I'm very prejudiced against them. They're horrible people. And they made a right mess of it. And they've gone back into austerity, which is the 12th time they've done it for the last 12 years, I think.

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  15. Simple as that. Why wouldn't you sit in your office and watch for a few months and see what, you know, I mean, but to come say, I'm going to change it all. I'm going to make this happen. No, no, I'm not. I'm going to do that. No, I won't do that. I don't think you just smoke joints and run a business. I think after the end of the day, it's very good for you when you've been making very good decisions. But during the day.

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  16. That's right, and I was born in 1943, so it was very real to us fascism and what can happen if you let one person take over a country. So, you know, that still rings very strongly with me in my soul. And I think, you know, I don't know whether it's a kind of narcissism, I think it is buying that. I think that to take it over and alienate both the people who are the audience and the people who bring them in by entertaining them or interacting with them is completely, utterly foolish.

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  17. What possibly could be as interesting? I find it very uncomfortable now. I had a lot of people who were nice and we were always, especially because my daughter's bipolar and they outwith it, we would encourage people who were depressed or sad. And Monty Python has a very cheery up equality to it, which it attracts a lot of people who are depressed or sad or lonely. And it does a lot of good in that respect. Hankazaria said he was filming a Holocaust movie and he came to the conclusion that Monty Python was the opposite of the Holocaust.

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  18. And I responded to that and said, you know, I say, well, you steal the idea from us and you want to charge us to verify who we are.

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  19. Well, I think he's been rather silly. I think he's been foolish. And I think impulsive. And, you know, where's his support group? Who's helping him? Who's saying don't say that? Because I think once you get too big, it's like a rock star. I call it Louis XIV. Nobody is telling you no. Nobody's saying, oh, that's a really bad idea. Why do that, you know? And I think that's the mistake. And I think one of my tweets recently was like I said, it's like buying a petting zoo and charging the animals.

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  20. It was doable. And so I think it's important to remember that Elon is a Python fan. I mean, you know, I think it, and also, you know, he's made brilliant cars. The Tesla is a brilliant thing. I think it was very generous to share all that technology with other car firms. The last thing American business should do, which because he wanted to make electric cars common, which is what he has succeeded in doing. And I think SpaceX is a jolly good thing too. I mean, watching that rocket land on its backside was one of the most extraordinary moments of technology. I think that... You know, he and also he legendarily once shut down his Tesla factory while they were making Tesla 3 to play a Python sketch about Woody and Tinny because he wanted to get the correct sound of the car door slamming.

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  21. And spam was based on a Python sketch, you know. So I started the thing called Python Line and I would answer their questions. And I kind of enjoyed that interaction with people. You know, sometimes, you know, and so I when Twitter came along, I kind of enjoyed that. And you find a small little community and providing you block a lot of people instantly.

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  22. Away I mean, I knew very early on, and he was still, I think I just met him just as, you know, he was doing that. And I took him to France and he came to stay. And we became very good friends. And then I'd follow him through San Francisco and he'd go to all the clubs, now endless clubs. And he was always brilliant, but then he would take medication and stop being funny. And that was when he cleaned up, then he was always funny. But he was always very sympathetic. He had this great humanity to him, which was very kind and generous. And I learned a lot from him how to treat Public when you're with them. So I would be very rude and tell them to F off. But he was always kindly to people, you know, and I learned a lot from that. I was devastated, obviously.

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  23. You mean my best friend, you know, was Robin Williams. You know, I haven't really recovered from that. I mean, you know, he was just so wonderful. And you had to know him an awfully long time before he stopped being funny.

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  24. It worries me. I didn't like it when Bill Maher complains about the audience not laughing. They're telling you they don't find it funny You shouldn't moan about the audience. There's nothing wrong with the audience if they don't laugh at your jokes. There's something wrong with your joke. And so I'm not terribly sympathetic to that sort of attitude, to be honest.

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  25. That's a fair price. Well, you're not being that much cancelled, are you? If you were in your room complaining, I'd have a lot more sympathy.

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  26. I didn't because my wife watches it and she says, Oh, you should watch it because it's funny. He's funny, you know, and I said, Oh, I will, I will.

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  27. It was a completely urine joke, and I wrote it, I'm afraid to say. And John Clease cut it. He went with the BBC and I did a tour with him and I made him do it every night with me. And it got huge laughs. So I got my own revenge.

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  28. Cut a sketch, which was a wine tasting sketch, and I said, what do you think of this? And I said, well, it's a burgundy. It's light, dries on the north side of the hill. It's probably a Sauvignon. No, sir, it is wee. And then he gave me another. Ah, now this is very much a sauvigner, proper grape. No, sir, it is we.

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  29. They added to us hardly at all until about, they hardly watched it actually, which was good, until about the third series, and they cut one or two things, but only small things by today's standards.

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  30. I know. And I think the thing about comedy is it's disastrous when you want to be liked. I think that slight difference between American humor, American television and English television, that it on the whole English comedians don't want to be loved or don't put that up front. Whereas I think it's very important in American terms that they're somehow liked or lovable.

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  31. So they took it in another direction, and you're much more at the mercy of executives in that form. I mean, they came to us once nearly departed and said, where more green? And we said, what? And they said, wear more green. Why? He said, well, we've done some studies and people like people who wear more green.

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  32. Yes, but also it's often the same joke. You're repeating the same thing. Here's the same guy coming in the same hello, darling, and I'm back. You know, there's nothing new about it after a bit, I find. I mean, Brooke was wonderful. But I was only called in for one year and I was supposed to be rude to her character all the time. That's why they employed me. And then after the first week or so, they put it in front of front of one of those panels they convene and said, oh, people don't like it when you're rude to her.

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  33. I mean, it should have been suddenly departed, is actually what it was, it was only on for six. I did enjoy doing that a bit, but I'm not good at sitcom because it seems to me a hybrid form of comedy, pure comedy, which is what Python was. We could do anything anywhere just to make you laugh. And drama or maybe soap opera. But I'm not, it's not my form. Again, I think it's a kind of acting. I'd rather do something sillier or moving along a bit. What I like to do is write a show and do it.

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  34. Yeah, and I think that was a remarkable fortunate thing for us. It spread it like a virus. So I don't know anything about TikTok. I'm very ignorant. I live in my own little ivory tower and I like writing and I like reading. I still like making people laugh.

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  35. Well, I think the reason it became popular was because it was on PBS and it was on a Sunday night and everybody could get it. Nobody was counting the figures, but everybody could see it for about years after year after year. That's why I.

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  36. I don't know because I don't know any other shows. I mean, I don't watch a lot of comedy, I must say, but I don't know whether other shows that are written by a gang of people who, I mean, whose line is it anyway, perhaps, is people that are making it up who are in it. But it doesn't have the rewrites or the, you know, we were writers and obsessive writers. There's hardly an ad-lib in Monty Python.

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  37. And I think because of the balance of the various members, I think Graham was a very prevalent influence in that. I mean, you know. And even if you played gay characters, they were kind of, you know, they weren't mocking being gay. They were saying funny things in a gay character. And I think that possibly the clue is that if you were offending some part of your audience or upsetting them, that's not what comedy does. It tries to mock things that should be attacked.

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  38. Well, I ran and directed 02, which was a revival in 2014. And the only thing I felt I should cut was there was a thing in the Silly Olympics. And it was 100 meters for the deaf. And he said, Only Marks, get go. Bang. Nobody moves. Bang! Nobody moves And I thought, no, this is actually laughing at the infirmity and not with the infirm. So I cut that. I don't know what I can't think of what I would off the cuff what I would rewrite now because I don't spend a lot of time thinking about it.

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  39. Well, he was actually based on our electricians. And anything you want to do, and if you want somebody, Mr. Cheeky was ridiculously silly. I mean, he's supposed to be crucified. And he says, no, no, they told me I could go free and live on an island. And he says, well, off you go, then off you go. And he said, no, I'm only pulling your leg, really. It's invincible stupidity. Originally, the song was not sung by him. I recorded the song. And then when I got to Tunisia where we were filming, it suddenly occurred to me that it needed the character of Cheeky to sing it and sell it. Something's in life about once I did that, which I recorded in a hotel room in Tunisia on a mattress with a bottle of Bucha. That's a live track, you know, with a real. Yeah, so but it brought the whole song to life and sold it at the end. Yeah, it's

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  40. But it was a wonderful man and the great guy and would come up with these offbeat thoughts, which I think balanced the very male group.

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  41. And Elshay, well, we voted to give him the right to have a baby. So, you know, I thought that was very left-wing. And I would have thought that was largely Graham Chapman, who was, you know, was a gay man and out at the time, even though when we started, it was still illegal, which is very hard to understand and remember from those times.

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  42. It was written by John Cleese and Graham Chapman, and I played it, which is a lovely character to play. And it treats, you know, Stan Loretta very nicely in a way. I mean, they go, well, how are you going to say, why do you want to be a woman? I want to have a baby. Well, how are you going to have a baby? I mean, most of Peter's going to keep it in the box, you know? I think it, and I think if we'd been unpleasant or attack that character, it would have looked nasty today, but because it was sympathetic.

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  43. And then we came up with the idea of really it's a tragedy because it's a guy mistaken for a messiah. And there was a lot of fuss about it because people didn't really understand, see it. So they didn't really understand it. They just complained that it was this broad mass of, which made the film in America. Everybody went to see

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  44. Well, the question was asked me at the opening of Holy Grail. What's our next film? And I just ad lib, Jesus Christ lust for glory. You'd get rid of the question. And when we got back to England, this is interesting. And we talked about it and we thought, well, actually, nobody's ever done. It's the same as that. Nobody's ever done comedy about the Beatles either. So you like the blank page if you're doing comedy. It's fabulous to find a whole blank page. Then we decided, well, actually, you can't really mock Jesus because he's saying all very good things. You can only mock the followers who misinterpreted.

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  45. And so when I went first on Saturday Night Live, I was hosting it. Lauren asked me for a clip from my show and I showed him this and he played it on the show. And they had letters back from the audience to the rattles. And then he said, Well, what are you going to do next? And I said, Well, I'm going to do a documentary on the Rattles for BBC Two. And he said, well, why don't you do it for me in NBC? And you'll have a larger budget. And so that's how it came to be. So it's like a combination between rattle and weekend television and Saturday Night Live because all the Sunday Night Live people were on

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  46. Know before spinal tap, and I wrote it for, initially, it was just a little song and a little sequence on a television show I had after Python called Rutland Weekend Television, Rutland being the tiniest county in England and having been just put out of existence by the Conservative Party. So the idea being that, you know, they had no money, no budget, and everything was a small, it's the small. And so there was a little group called the Ruttles running around being singing very beatly songs.

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  47. Yes, it wasn't good enough for us, but it was still pretty funny, you know. But we didn't try that one. I'd already sent that into the Turonish and they sent it back because if you look at it on the page, it's not funny. There's no jokes in it. Is your wife a go? Noah to me, know it to me, know it to mean. Senimo, Santa Mar. Hello. It's just repetition until you do it like that. You know, she goes, once you put the caricature in it, it becomes funny. And so once I read it to the rest of the Pythons, they just laughed and said, that's in. You know, that's straight away.

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  48. The oddest thing of all is, I wrote it for a show. We used to say, well, we would read our sketches out to each other. And if we laugh, do we put it in the show? And if we didn't laugh, we'd sell it to the two Ronnie's television show Ronnie Barker, Ronnie Corbett. And very, very popular.

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  49. I would say so because oddly enough Elvis Presley was a big fan of that sketch and called everybody squire because of it.

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  50. Because of that, exactly. Because of that, we couldn't afford horses anyway, although they'd already written the horse sketch at the beginning, the coconut. So everybody had to have coconuts because we couldn't afford horses. So I think it enforces you to improvise or create something which you might just lazily have not done.

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