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  1. Yeah, I think that the desire of the old system to defend itself through reputational destruction is one of the most pernicious aspects of the new America. And we have to fight the ability to destroy reputations as a means of institutions keeping individuals with podcasts and the ability to reach millions like through substack out of their domain. I don't surrender this domain to them. They have plenty of weaponry with which to fight us. And I believe that they could remove you or me in an instant. By the end of today, if they wanted us off the chessboard, we would be off the chessboard. I know that's not your perspective. My goal is to stay here as long as possible to make sure that you have enough of a counterbalancing set of ideas and to let and help other podcasts start. And my hope is that that works

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  2. I decided it's really not about cowardice because it's hard for me to restrain myself. I have so many reactions every day. This is really about trying to plan for all of our futures to make sure that I'm around. I had a huge concern that what happened to Brett's articles of unity was going to happen to Brett, was going to happen to the YouTube channels. I want to make sure that we don't have all of our eggs in one basket. So if something goes wrong over there, that's the whole idea of the intellectual dark web, which is at some level a loose confederation. It can become a strong confederation if somebody wants to back it and make it work. It can dissolve so that there really isn't anything. The thing is to be hard to kill because ultimately when the hit pieces come, they don't come for what it is that they're angry at you about. They come for where they can get you. And so it's very important that right in front of an

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  3. Is a big danger given how angry I am at the system. And I don't want to be removed from the chessboard because if nobody's going to talk about Jeff Epstein, there need to be people. If nobody's going to talk about various things that we've talked about on these programs, I want to make sure that I'm there. Do I think that this is potentially an existential election? Yes. My positive that I know that my way to bed is the right way out. No, I'm not. I don't know, people. I just don't know. And where we are right now seems so dumb and so catastrophic in terms of how it is chewing up smart people.

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  4. I want to make sure you guys are getting the best that I can do and destroying myself right in front of an election. I think Lex is incorrect, I think that the forces that are trying to make sure that there aren't any planes in the sky that aren't either colored red or colored blue.

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  5. We're pausing at the moment. We've recorded some for future episodes, and I'm recording for you. I really appreciate that. I mean, it's earnestness trades at a discount at the moment because it's easy to make fun of it. One of the things I like best about you is that you and I are both fairly earnest. We may joke and jab, but honestly, there's a project here in a world to win, as they say. The thing that... I want my and your listeners to know is that I'm not stepping away from the podcast. Because I don't appreciate that people really want more. It's not. This is hugely financially costly to me.

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  6. With somebody who I already knew intimately and had fallen in love with, and to see the quality and beauty of their mind and to play and to dance, it's sort of the intellectual version of the tango. One of the most romantic periods of my life that doesn't fall into most people's experience. I was a chance to see something totally unexpected haven't really had it since because she doesn't want to revisit the material. But something I'm super grateful for that's very particular and unique.

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  7. Actually, that's something I wanted to just say before you get to that. Forgot to say something falling in love with an intellectual collaborator is a special thing that not everybody gets a chance to do. I think when I met Pia, I fell deeply in love with her. Her normal characteristics. She and I had an antagonistic relationship around geometry and economics. And then weirdly, you know, just like in a buddy picture where in the first half of the film they hate each other, the two fields were fighting with each other, cats and dogs. And finally, the sexual tension clearly was so thick you could cut it with a knife. And we came up with geometric marginalism, which is this other theory, not geometric unity, which allowed me to inhabit space.

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  8. I just can't believe who I can talk to, you know, at the drop of a hat. I'm really grateful. This is the end of something profound, and it's the beginning of whatever is next. And whatever is next could be terminal, whatever's next could be amazing, whatever's next could be a return to the horrors of the early twentieth century that doesn't manage to go totally catastrophic, but takes hundreds of millions of lives in the process. Grateful to having half of my life in the rear view mirror. Maybe it took place in a bubble and maybe it was unsustainable. But it was nice to be able to move around the world without a mask. It was nice to be able to see a little bit of the world, even if it was from a Cot in a hostel in some country Absolutely

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  9. Nyla and Zeb. My wife Pierre The fact that we've got our health, all the little things. Saying grace after meals. You're coming over for Friday night Shabbat dinner. So we'll say we'll bench together and say grace. It's important to just like this bottle of water in front of me. I made a point that Just thinking about how wonderful it is that there's a quenching bottle that happens to be placed in front of me because somebody cared. So that small thing made a difference to me. Still have strength for the fight so far. I think that's something I'm grateful for. I can't believe that I'm not more beaten down after all of this nonsense. I have the most interesting set of friends. I really do. I mean I'm not that rich by monetary standards, but if there were friend billionaires, Forbes would be all over my aunt.

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  10. Farmers, new people who can find fruit that they can pick. And once you have one person do that, very often you get many. Like one of the things that we were talking about with Eddie Van Halen, the reason that he created a revolution in somebody like Roy Buchanan did not is that you could follow Eddie Van Halen. You couldn't pioneer it. And maybe you couldn't play as well and as cleanly and as fast and as inventively, but you could follow. Once you understand that there is a tapping principle, it was just the beginning of something called percussive guitar My belief is that once we start innovating in the present Everything will come Because everything that around us is screwed up.

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  11. I have a fantasy. Okay, my fantasy is that all of these things are the same problem. And it goes back to this thing that I read about in Feynman's books. About Tartaglia, they asked him this question, what's the greatest thing that ever happened in math? He says, Tartaglia's solution of the cubic. It's just like the weirdest answer. So you're like, okay, I'll bite. Why is it Tartagli's solution? Because it was the first time a modern person had done something profound that the ancients had failed to do It's the thing that opens up new psychology that says maybe things are possible again.

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  12. Can't do that, guys. We cannot do that. There's something about the renormalization revolution that enervated the physics community because it taught them just because you can see in this energy regime doesn't mean you can extrapolate somewhere else unless you understand how coupling constants run and what kind of UV fixed points exist, blah, blah, blah. Somehow that discouraged people from guessing from believing. Everything became an effective theory. The beauty of the effective theory wasn't taken to be really the beauty of the universe, just the beauty of an energy level. So I think that renormalization was one of the most important revolutions that ever happened in science and also its interpretation by the physics community was catastrophic. Well, the story I'm telling myself is that in part I'm waiting for them to get weaker.

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  13. That said, if I wait too long, I don't know that theoretical physics is really going to exist after the boomers because everyone, and I think you had Wolfram on your program, I don't remember whether he said this to you or Brian Keating, but he said something like everybody got discouraged. It was too hard.

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  14. I translate Can make this make as much sense as anybody needs to. My problem is. My calculation Is that as long as the boomers are still in charge, the same people have these perverse incentives on them where they've invested in these programs that didn't work? So they're extremely hostile and kind of difficult to deal with. Fact that I'm not a physicist Its own set of issues, which is that effectively it's like the hermit kingdom, they don't get any visitors. They don't necessarily want somebody rolling up and saying, I know how to do physics. So I'm always very clear. I'm not a physicist.

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  15. And I saw a lot of the comments would say things like, I have a PhD in theoretical physics, and I'm not even familiar with all of these concepts. And I think that was probably a distortion coming from living in Cambridge, Massachusetts for almost 20 years.

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  16. I'm trying to figure out When to release it and how. I mean, I've released the video and the video. Quite honestly, I think it has a very bizarre reaction. I think one of the things that I've learned from the video, because the video is coming up on half a million views on YouTube alone to say nothing of the... Audio, but Yeah, it produced a very strange reaction. One of the things I don't think that I properly understood is that most physicists Don't talk in this geometric language. I thought that more of the physics world probably had converted over into manifolds bundles differential forms connections curvature tensors etc

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  17. It's the kind of, it's for the same reason that I went on Brett's Unity 2020 thing when I didn't think it had a hope in hell and people were making fun of it. We got to do things that make us feel dumb and silly and childish, that possibly have a hope of working. Okay. So everybody should do something. My version of this, I am the most hopeful about because I wouldn't have chosen to do if I thought that Daniel Schmachtenberger's wisdom project was a better hope, I'd do that. More down to earth in a certain way. I just think that it's more probable look we got from powered flight with the Wright brothers and wind tunnels to sending back images from the surface of Titan Huygens Cassini in less than a century. What we can do if we can change the laws of physics Is something we can't even conceive of. It may be that it buys us nothing.

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  18. Everybody who has a possible plan to avoid what is coming if we don't have one should work on the plan that he has Thinks So, Elon wants to do rockets, people misinterpret me. Meta Eric says, I don't think that's a smart plan. Regular Eric says. All people who have hope should do that thing. At least it's Mars, man. At least it's the Moon and Mars and maybe Titan and whatever. And I don't think it'll work. And it doesn't make sense and it looks silly.

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  19. Yeah, I freak people out when I say that, but look at your world. You just got introduced to the problem of a virus. Wait, wait till it's fusion devices and you understand what it means to have one interconnected planet with no uncorrelated Experiments happening anywhere else, you know?

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  20. I mean, I'm not eager to martyr myself. I've certainly risked my health, my fortune. I've destroyed myself economically over science. My need to oppose these sons of bitches in shared professorships who are destroying our system along with everyone else

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  21. Honor its commitment. Right, so the universities became psychopathic. It's not like everybody doesn't remember what we're supposed to be doing to be moral, but the point was there wasn't enough money to be moral, so it was time to eye each other as a source of protein, as I like to say. And in that process, Jeffrey Epstein said, hey, come to my world. Can do it like we used to do. So, in part, my point is that almost none of your colleagues at MIT have that kind of religious commitment to science that they're willing to go down with ship science. The Galileo Galilei thing became very important to science because occasionally you just have to say. Isn't about me and you. There isn't enough money in the world to buy the kind of legacy I want to leave to this planet One of the great things about science. Potentially it's worth dying for.

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  22. Maybe Yuri Milner, maybe who else would be in this category. Peter Thiel to an extent, Howard Hughes would be the largest of these things, which has different grant structures than the NIH, gave people a modicum of risk-taking ability. Okay, well, when Jeff Epstein showed up, everybody wanted to take risk in science. And suddenly a charismatic billionaire says, hey, I can make that work for you. Here's $100,000. Go research something crazy. That money was supposed to be provided. By the federal government under the terms of the endless frontier compact between the federal government and the universities, and the federal government and the taxpayers welched.

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  23. And we're a free society and we act like a free society. We're a rich society and we research like we're a rich society. That has historically. And then came the 1970s. And William Proxmeyer and the Golden Fleece Awards and the idea that we have to, we're paying too much and these are welfare queens and lab coats and blah, blah, blah, blah. We need more transparency, more oversight. Everything went to hell. And the national culture of U.S. science was lost. The thing that produced all this prosperity and security and power was lost, and then Jeff Epstein shows up. A tiny number of funders, maybe Fred Cavali,

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  24. Yeah, well, what part of the story isn't scary? I in part did something which I imagine may get me destroyed. Because I was more worried about being destroyed by somebody else. I had a conversation with. Around Jeff So I'm just trying to let it be known that I don't know anything more than I've already said. Your friends at MIT Their problem is that Jeff Epstein showed up as the only person capable of continuing US scientific tradition. You see, the U.S. scientific tradition is a little bit like the Russian. It's combative.

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  25. The film is entitled 1971, and it's about the Citizens Committee to investigate the FBI, which was run by a student of Murray Gelman, a physicist, and broke into FBI offices in Pennsylvania to steal files which allowed freedom of information requests that discovered a huge conspiracy. It was a conspiracy that unearthed a conspiracy inside the federal government, a double conspiracy story. Which launched multiple conspiracies. I think that the problem with modern Americans is that they are so timid that they don't even learn about the history of conspiracies that we have absolutely proven. With that done, Jeff Epstein, in my opinion, represented somebody's construct

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  26. Well, my point there is responsible conspiracy theorizing. Where you look at the history of unearthed conspiracies, and just like you would with any other topic, just think about how different the rules in your mind are for conspiracy theorizing versus X theorizing where X can be anything. It's like if I say to you, I can say the statement that average weight is not the same between widely separated populations. Say, yeah. I'd say average height is not the same between widely separated populations. So, yeah. Then I say, in fact, no continuous variable that shows variation should be expected to be identical between widely separate. Of course, Eric. Like IQ. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. So we have a violent reaction to specific topics. So the first thing I want to do is just to notice that conspiracy has that built into everyone's mind.

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  27. Mimetic complex where you can be taken off the chessboard by saying conspiracy theorists, get done. It's like a one-line proof. We don't have to listen to Lex. He said he was a conspiracy theorist on this show. Okay. That is partially distorting our conversation. If you want to ask me about Jeffrey Epstein, you have to agree with me that that is a logical description of what you would have to have if you wanted to commit conspiracies, is that you have to make sure that people are dissuaded from investigating them.

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  28. First of all, when evil wants to operate at scale, it needs to make sure that people don't try to figure out evil. When evil operates at scale First principles, you have to realize that evil must not want it investigated. The most efficient way Keep yourself from being investigated. If you are an evil institutional player who needs to do this repeatedly is to invest in a world in which no one can afford to say the word conspiracy. You'll notice that there is a special radioactivity around the word conspiracy. We have provable conspiracies. We have admitted to conspiracies. You have been invited to conspiracies. There is no shortage. Conspiracies are everywhere. Some of them are mundane. Some of them are like price fixing cartels or trade groups, or generally speaking, conspirac So, the first thing you have to realize is that all of us are

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  29. Angered that he put together this amazing video that says we can completely detail what you did. We caught you on Closed Circuit TV. We don't know exactly who you are because your disguises and your files passports, but yeah, 26 people converged to kill one. No, I don't believe you. I don't believe after Cointel Pro, an operation paperclip and Operation Mockingbird. I don't know whether I should even bring up Rex84. Not believe in conspiracies is an idiocy.

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  30. I find this so fascinating, yeah. Because I always see you as like a Logic and love drive your soul. You're very logical. You're relentless. You've got a lot of love in your heart. I believe that if you would review the video, where is it from? Dubai or Abu Dhabi of the mysterious hit on the hotel guest? You ever seen this thing? The assassination in 2010, 10 years ago of Mahmoud Al Mabu, something like that, in Dubai, where I believe 26 Separate individuals on multiple teams are shown converging coming in from all over the world on false passports. Pretending to be tennis players or business people or vacationers. And all of these teams have different functions, and they murder this guy in his hotel room. And the Dubai, I guess, chief of police, security officer, was so...

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  31. I'm just trying to get my first question. You have to map the silence with Jeffrey Epstein. You're describing is a map of the silence at MIT. Is there a map of the silence in Washington state around Jeffrey Epstein? The Bay Area, New York City The amount of silence around Jeffrey Epstein should be telling you everything. Number of dogs that don't bark is like nothing we've ever seen

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  32. Gilene Maxwell's Very active in scientific publishing. I don't know where peer review came from. I would love to run down the relationship between peer review and Robert Maxwell. I would love to run down the missing fortune of Robert Maxwell and the mysterious fortune of Jeffrey Epstein because I don't think Jeffrey Epstein ever ran a hedge fund. I don't think he was a money advisor the way people claimed.

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  33. I don't think MIT was deep into pedophilia. My guess is that that did not happen. I don't think that the scientists were the targets of the really sick depraved stuff. It's my guess. My guess is that what you're looking at was a government construct. It may have been our government, it may have been a joint government project, it may have been somebody else's government. I don't know. I believe that in part, We don't really understand Robert Maxwell.

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  34. So, there's an entire spectrum of different stuff. And at the moment, nobody can pull apart or deconflate anything because the woke thing comes over it and says, you know, I think it's disgusting that a 43-year-old billionaire would be partying with a 23-year-old. Okay, yeah, I don't want to adjudicate that. I'm worried about 12 and 14 year olds that we're not talking about.

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  35. Relationship between the sexuality of adults and minors, and particularly, you know, There's the 17-18 issue. Very different than 1213. Talking about really sick depravity with respect to what it appears that Jeffrey Epstein was involved in at some level. I believe this story is super complicated in part because I think one thing which Jeffrey Epstein was doing was providing money, encouragement, and support to scientists. Another thing he was doing, I believe, was giving tax advice. To very rich people. I believe another thing he was doing was hooking very wealthy people up with young adult females. Another thing he was doing, I think, was doing stuff with children that will curl your toes.

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  36. No, we don't know. Obviously, I want to scream about it too, right? And I probably have said too much about Jeffrey Epstein. Look, something horrible happened. I don't know what it is. But something horrible happened. One thing that, okay, let's just do this. The first thing I need to do is I need to get rid of this woke crap about power differentials. In general, You can talk about hypergamy and power differentials are Russell conjugates of the same concept. Just the way particular proportions and symmetries are mathematically provable to be attractive in females to males. Male attractiveness is largely determined by male competence and ability to amass power and success and all these sorts of things. The relationship between consenting adults is quite frankly not something I want to sort out.

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  37. And that we bend the rules to make sure that the prize stays funded with the prestige that comes from giving it to the Roger Penrose's Albert Einstein's and Paul Durox of the world.

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  38. Distortions and dilutions. For example, Dirac and Schr ⁇ dinger, where I believe given the prize in the same year, there's no reason that those two people needed to dilute each other. The same thing with Dyson was an omission. Tomanaga probably got included in part because we had an opportunity to show that something had happened on both sides of the Pacific after the war. But I don't think we needed to dilute Weinberg or Feynman or Schwinger. It just makes me somewhat sick. All of these people are such important giants and it has to do with the field, I think, not wanting to create luminaries and superstars who could have defended the field from budget cuts and worldly pressures. So I think it's really important that we have absolute superstars because we produce superstars. We acknowledge them, we don't dilute them.

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  39. Revolutionized our view of the world. And I take a very dim view of people pushing for prizes for people from ethnic groups or genders or whatever in order to make it plural and inclusive if it's not following the work. And I feel very clear that in a few cases we know there was a real problem with the Nobel Committee because we have stunning accomplishments. Try to get through a day as a physicist without nerder's theorem and try to imagine the universe without Madame Wu's discovery that left and right don't appear to be symmetric. I mean, these are terrible emissions and they're a huge blot on science for not being more inclusive when it matters.

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  40. But out of strength in future would be great to get Madame Wu And Emmy Nerder, a posthumous prize, along with Doug Prasher, George Sudarshan. George Zweig, as well as Ernst Stucklberg Nobel Prizes. There have been some terrible omissions on the first two being females who

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  41. The prizes used to rewrite history. That's the problem. So you should have a love hate relationship with it because on the one hand, it does focus the world on what really matters. And on the other hand, it distorts what really matters. And both of those functions take place simultaneously. In this case, I think that they violated their own rules slightly. So it wasn't really clearly a case of a prediction and a discovery in the typical fashion, but they like We better give this award to somebody of that highest caliber to make sure that the prize is fully funded with prestige going forward. That's sort of my weird speculative guess as to what happened. And so Rogers getting on in years and the person should be alive. So I think they bent the rules and I think they couldn't have bent it for a better person. And I hope they will not bend the rules out of weakness.

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  42. Different kinds of prizes. The reason that we care about the Nobel Prize isn't because of Alfred Nobel. It's because it came along at the right time to reward the Einstein, Dirac, Schr ⁇ d Most of the people who should have won. Most of the awards are not good in the sense that they don't really follow.

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  43. I think I probably saw that at like age 16 or something. It just flipped my mind. Roger is incredibly visual. He's incredibly geometric. He's incredibly sui generis. He just does his own thing. He's got lots of bets. None of them had really come through the way you had hoped. And I think they stretched the rules to be blunt about it.

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  44. I feel like Penrose in some sense came up a very difficult path because you see, Einstein effectively solved most of the most important problems in general relativity right at the beginning. As a result, the children of Einstein are impoverished because there wasn't as much to pick off of the trees and sell at the market. Whereas Bohr didn't and Planck didn't do nearly as good of a job with quantum theory. So there's lots to do in quantum theory. I think that Roger affected me personally by a diagram that I saw in a paper of Hermann Gluck at the University of Pennsylvania. The first picture I'd ever seen of the hop vibrations sketched. And that, you know, weirdly, I brought that to the Rogan program in order to sort of convey the wonder. It was recapitulating my own journey.

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  45. Witten's a special case, but. Witten is weirdly the reverse of the Roger Penrose story, right? Because Witten is the first physicist to win a mathematical fields medal, the highest honor in mathematics. Penrose is in some sense a mathematician who's now won the Nobel Prize. So it's a perfect sort of a couplet. Rogers' class means everything to me. That's the highest achievement of the human mind. I would probably throw Bach in with Feynman and Dirac and company, right? I think that he was so inventive. It was very frustrating to watch this career. It was a little bit frustrating to watch Feynman's career. Feynman was. So good, and had he been born slightly different at a slightly different time, I believe, he would have Claim on physics would be far greater.

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  46. Yeah, okay. So, first of all, there are two other people who won this prize. I'm sorry, I just didn't happen to know who they were before they won. Roger is a very it is not Roger in particular, but the class from which Roger comes that is so important. So I would put Roger in the class of Feynman Einstein Dirac.

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  47. Future Lex. I'm talking to Future Lex single present Lex, please don't listen. Don't be an ass. You're going to need some money and don't make these pledges to say on a podcast. I want to save you from yourself. You need money to do many of the beautiful things that we're counting on you to do. Don't F it up

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  48. Invest fine, but a little bit of avuncular advice. Don't pledge to be the person who disgorges themselves of security. Money is freedom. That's what it is. It's a big honking pile of freedom. You can choose to use it as the freedom to imprison you if you don't, you know, so you can use it as freedom to make yourself a prisoner of your money. But generally speaking, Lex, money is freedom and your voice is important. At least retain the amount of money, security you need. Follow Joe's advice. What is the point of FU money if you don't say FU? The number of people who have FU money who don't say FU indicates the number of people who chose the freedom of their wealth to create a prison. They built a prison with the freedom they had, and they walked into it, locked the door

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  49. All right. So then, you know, give it to me Create the competitor. Show me that you actually have understood this because my guess is that most of the things that you'll think about I mean, I can tell you things I've talked to Jack about, which I know would make Twitter much better. However, I think that this problem of instantaneous communication across the planet, and you subtract off all sorts of context and mutual self-knowledge, the problem is us, it's not the platforms. You're thinking about a technological solution, and I'm saying the problem is that we are ultimately the product.

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  50. Oh, you better believe it. Look, Brett had this idea of Unity 2020, and I told him it was a wrong idea. I didn't tell him that Unity 2024 was a wrong idea. I didn't tell him that Unity 2028 is the wrong idea. I was wrong, because he's now shuttered the thing, right? I would say that the case to be made that he was correct was that by doing this in 2020, we found out what we were up against. It's good to know that Twitter can turn this off at the drop of a Great to know. It's good to know as we learned that. You cannot have meetings of presidential candidates in a primary. that are not approved of by the party. Like they've got this thing figured out so we don't have any way in, and now Unity 2024. Makes sense because Unity 2020 was tried. Okay, I don't know that we get to 2024 under all circumstances. In some we do and some we don't.

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