YouSaid · the spoken record

Erik Hersman

lines on the record: 35
first: 2025-01-08
most recent: 2025-01-08
sittings or episodes: 1
sources: podcast

Every line below is reproduced as it was said and linked to the record it came from. Nothing here is summarised or generated. Directory · Search · Corrections

“Okay, awesome. So, yeah, so I guess for Gridless, it's just we're at Gridlist Compute on Twitter. That's our one and only public channel. So when we talk about things, that's where you find them out. And then there's a gamma site as well. It's gamma underscore alliance. That's where you can find news about some of the other members from, you know, we got Sebastian in the Congo. We've got CMOLA in Nigeria. I got Nemo up in Ethiopia. We've got two new groups, one gas flaring in Nigeria, one doing hydro in Ethiopia. We've got Sid down in Zambia. So they're all a gamma official. And then, sorry, Gamma Alliance. And I'm personally, I'm just a white African on Bwinner. So if you want to find me there, you can.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Of anything I've been asked to. All right, well, Preston, we'll consider that as we need to do more work to convince you. No, that's a yes.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, well, Preston, first, I'm not going to let you off the hook. If you said you're this excited about Africa and Bitcoin, then are you going to come next year to the Africa Bitcoin conference?”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think just to bring it back to what we started out at the beginning is, you know, we're seeing like the condos and the bit soccos launching this time. But a lot of that generation of Bitcoin software engineering talent has been driven by VTrust on the continent. You know, Kala was soaked up and became BTRust builders. We're seeing a few other initiatives. But the main thing is that they've put a few years now into a lot of money into getting grants for giving grants to these young entrepreneurial software engineers. Some of them get jobs at other Bitcoin companies and some of them end up building their own apps and services. And so we're starting to see the fruit of that labor. So I think what B-Trust has done in the seeds they've planted will continue to bear fruit for the coming years.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Isn't the problem, especially when you're dealing with independent power producers. When you're dealing with government to do the mining, then you have to deal with internal bureaucracies. But it's not as big of a deal when you're building your own energy or you're building on other people's independent power production.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think you're right on the last bit. I mean, I've had conversations with three different government representatives in the last week from different countries in Africa who this usually happens as the price goes up all of a sudden they hear about Bitcoin mining, they realize they have stranded power. Gridless is the one they've heard about, so they contact us, even though we don't do big power, at least we can give them some insights into why it's worth doing. I think, you know, on the regulatory side for mining, though, it's not the same problem, right? Energy development is energy development. It's been going on for decades anyway, and the regulations are there. And if you're doing it usually in Kenya, it's under one megawatt and Zambia's under five megawatts. There's a lot less red tape to just build energy. To do Bitcoin mining, it's just data center loss, right? So the same data center laws that you use for building a large Google or Facebook type data center are now the same things that we follow, right? So we get type approved on the importation of the Bitcoin miner itself. And then it's just the basic paperwork. So the regular...”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think there's two sides to that. I'm not probably the best versed at the first one, which is maybe Charlene. I think there's two sides. There's the use of Bitcoin, which is by everyday people just in their daily lives, saving, spending, whatever it is. And then there's the generation of Bitcoin around energy. So those two sides of the spectrum, let Charlene speak to the first one now.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Africa, there's 400 gigawatts of energy available, forty gigawatts have been built, right? And you can see from this that there's actually very small sites as well as large sites on this map in the red and blue dots. There's so much more to be developed. And Charlene's right, we don't need concessionary financing to build this. We don't need a bunch of aid money to do this. This can be done as Bitcoiners, as investors, just with Bitcoin mining being a part of it. That completely changes the dynamics of what we have in front of us and realizing that we're in the place that has some of the best inputs for energy in the world and the place that has the least amount of energy for the people, we realize that you're actually sitting in a perfect storm where Bitcoin mining can solve a major humanitarian need at the same time as making real money.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, this is the site that was built in Zambia. It's a 700 kilowatt site in very, very rural Zambia that powers when we started a year ago there. It powered a thousand families and about 200 businesses. Now it powers 1,500 families and 250 businesses. Charlene was dead on on this. This site was actually built with some concessionary financing, but it was built by the community. So all of that civil works you see on the side there, there was no heavy equipment used. It was built by members of the community who came together and laid those stones stone by stone, cemented it. You know, of course, the turbine and the pipes were brought in from afar, but the rocks were all local. That's on the, you know, the Zambezi River, and it's a beautiful place. But what I think is interesting about this is that there's sites like this all over Africa. The things I talk to is this slide, which is this map shows all of the hydro available across the continent, sub-Saharan Africa.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Bitcoin Honey Badger was here and she went to the hydro site with me and she ended up talking alongside I think Joe Nakamoto to some of the local community members and she was very silent on the way back as she was thinking about how much of an impact she could see this energy had on everyday lives of people in the community and it's heavy right yeah we've been distanced a bit those of us who live in the city and when you get onto the rural area you realize how much of a base commodity energy is”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Financial commodity called Bitcoin, you really realize there's something here, right? And I think that's the gratifying part is like, you know, some guys geek out over the technical parts of it and they're looking at it. They're like saying, oh, so this machine is really that dumb? Yeah, it's really that dumb. It's really that poorly made, right? They're really not great machines. And you're like, okay, well, if you can do that with that, imagine what you could do with this. And they start thinking about, well, near my village is a river that nobody's put any hydro on. And could we do something there? The visitors who come in are always enthralled by just talking to community members. You know, they'll talk to somebody who lives nearby and say, how is electricity changed your life? And, you know, from”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Mask, we took him to our hydro and we took him to geothermal. And so different groups went to different places. You know, there's something kind of magical about each of those types, right? It was turning agricultural waste into energy, taking steam from two kilometers deep in the earth to make energy, watching the river and just seeing the turbines spinning. And each of these things, again, it kind of brings it to the fore. And I say that in Charlene would remember this from my talk. I talked actually a lot about how energy human progress is the story of energy. We have distanced ourselves so much from what energy actually is. From the electricity in our homes to the hospital being oaken at night to all these normal things that we just take for granted, we forget what energy actually is and how much people power is behind everything we do. And so when you get to see energy being made and you get to see it then powering this base.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“like oh we didn't realize it was this easy or you make money doing this you know i'm just kidding i didn't say that but it's interesting when you when you get people on the ground even fellow kenyans right they they look around they're like like bitcoin has always been an esoteric thing for most people where it's this digital currency you don't touch or see it but for the first time with you know they get to see something physical that's a part of bitcoin and they can actually touch it and they can hear the the fans going and they can feel the heat. And all of a sudden they're like, okay, this is where new Bitcoin gets created. This is where transactions happen. So even with Bitcoiners from Africa, it becomes real, right? I think that's the thing that gets always gratifying to see is that people kind of can put a point on it. You know, we took people to three different sites, this ABC, actually. So we took them to our biome.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But you know what, President, that's an amazing story, and that's just how the world works, you know. Of poisons in Bitcoin because sometimes the same message is just not heard from the wrong person.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Speaking about women too, I mean, you've been doing some stuff with the women in the community, with events around AVZ and stuff.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But that's the kind of craziness that goes on here. So you have a community of people who are coming together to learn about things and teach each other. And then other people reach out to them instead of saying, oh, let me go take that energy contract from you because now I know where it could be. He says, yeah, sure. Pay me to help you set this up, but then it's your site. Here's your 500 kilowatts, one megawatt, whatever it is. And I think it's not always going to be those kind of relationships, right? There is going to be some cutthroat going at it for energy contracts, but you see this kind of work within the condens thus far. And we've been trying to build a community that works together rather than one that is at odds with each other.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“What's funny about CMO real quick, Preston, is that we were just sitting down talking this last week and he set up Energy Bloom's new site Maker has a new site and it's a gas flaring site in Nigeria, but he called on Ciambola, who's one of the gamma members in Nigeria. So Ciambola and Sambo shoot down there. They get waylaid by pirates on the way and he loses his very cool merch from the African Bitcoin mining center that he's the most sad about. But they set up this new site and then they make their way back and he doesn't get mugged on the way back the other way.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So there's a new way to think about this. Like we see the likes of Sailor using it for micro strategy as Bitcoin as a really interesting way to make more money, make more dollars. But there's a way to both make more Bitcoin and more energy with it too.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And maybe there's a way around this kind of broken model of energy investment in Africa. And Bitcoin is the method for that too. And to kind of give you an example of what I mean by this, the capital efficiency is really just unmatched. So if I take $20 million and I put that into runner river hydro in Africa, I can build 10 megawatts. So in 30 years, unless I go raise more money, I'm still just going to have 10 megawatts. However, if I take that same $20 million, put that into a Bitcoin treasury, and then I leverage that Bitcoin Treasury against a Swiss bank that'll give me a 50% LTV, right? At an 8% interest rate, I can build one to four gigawatts in 30 years. That's the difference. Wow. It's 148X capital efficiency.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The disease is actually, we're not building enough energy. So, how do we build more energy? Well, if we go back to look at the traditional financing of it so far, you realize that it just will never move forward. Is there a new way to think about financing more energy? And as Bitcoiner, as we were challenged by the likes of Jeff Booth, Elise from Stomark, and Obi, all of us, either friends or investors in Gridless. And they said, listen, you're thinking this with a fiat mindset. Why don't you look at this as a Bitcoiner and think about how you could do that? And by the way, do you know you could get loans against Bitcoin? We were like, what? We had no idea you could do that. So what we did is we sat down, reran the numbers. And we're like, if you do Bitcoin financing of new energy, you could actually build much more energy than you could if you spent it with dollars anyway.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I was on the phone with that funder, and I explained to them what was going on, where the anchor tenant on that site. In fact, if we're not on that site, that energy site is not self-sustaining and goes bankrupt, right? So our existence on it makes it possible for that whole community to get power. Wow, right? We're talking thousands of families have electricity in their homes. People have built maize mills so people don't have to, the women don't have to walk 10 kilometers now to get their maize milled. There's cell phone towers that have power in them. And they want that to go away because they would rather we not pay the energy partner, Bitcoin as their revenue stream. It's one of those things that it's a perception problem and a regulator problem in Europe that is infecting the development of energy in Africa. So that then led us to think, okay, well, if that's the case in the financers, if we know that the symptom that we've been solving for is that is making energy profitable.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So along comes Bitcoin mining and says, Oh, by the way, we can make this profitable for you now. And it does. And it's like this magical thing. But here's the crazy bit who's actually financing these things to date. It's concessionary financers. So this is your Rockefeller Foundations. It's your USAIDs. It's all these African Development Bank, maybe the European Development Bank, it might come as a surprise to you, but they're not all big fans of Bitcoin. And so even though we came out and showed this model, we actually had at least one of our energy partners who had gotten debt financing from one of them, get pushback and told that they couldn't receive the Bitcoin. What's the hanging?”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Turns out that Africa is one of the places with the best off-grid energy resources. So you have hydro, you have solar, you have geothermal, if you have the capital to develop it, you have wind, all these kind of things that actually make it really easy to bring in off-grid energy. So why are investors not investing in off-grid energy if there's a buyer there, right? And the answer for that is it's a stupid investment. It just doesn't make any sense because there's not enough people who can pay for it. So if I'm a poor rural African, how am I going to pay enough money to pay back a $2 million investment in energy? It just takes too long, right? And so I can buy an LED light bulb or I can charge my phone. Sure, but that doesn't use very much power. And so if I'm an energy investor, I basically enter this willful delusion with energy developer that will someday in 30 years get paid back on this energy. But that just doesn't happen. It never has.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They won't get a return on investment by punching power into these very faraway communities that are distributed over large amounts of space, so they don't. So the only answer then is that mini grids have to be built in these rural areas.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Why? Why would we still not have enough electricity in Africa? That's the kind of thing that bothered me when we started this whole process of gridless is I understood Bitcoin mining. We went in there, we started doing it, but it just made me start wondering why is it that we don't have enough electricity for everybody? What's going on here? And so I had to do a ton of reading to understand what was setting this problem up. And the thing that was bothering me was like, there's this problem of lack of energy across Africa and everybody knows it. Okay, so why are we not building more electricity? And the answer really quickly came down to this was that the national power grid in utilities, they built spot as far as they can to get a return on investment.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Okay, so this is a slide I like to use to talk to people about things. So the Global Access to Electricity today is 800 million, 600 million of them are in Africa, right? Those are people who do not have any access to electricity. But if you look at this research paper that was done this year, 14 years ago, in 2010, we had 1.4 billion people without electricity across the world. And that number has dropped to the 800 million that we see today. But look at the bottom, sub-Saharan Africa. It's remained exactly the same as 600 million, right?”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I have no customer service. I don't want any of those things. So let's just open source this and we'll make our money off mining like we normally do. And much to his chagrin, we went ahead and did it. Now he's getting, you know, he's on call with different miners who are trying to use those same designs to build stuff in Nigeria and Ghana and elsewhere. So it's been kind of fun to see. But the reality is that we don't make our money off of it. Why should we focus on that? And we're open source kind of guys anyway. So we like it when more people can do more stuff.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Tell you a funny story about that, Charlene. We were sitting there. So Bare, who I think you've met is our mechanical engineer, and he's worked with me for like over a decade in past businesses. He's really good. And he had designed our Bitcoin mining container. We'd gone through a couple iterations and we're just before the Africa Bitcoin mining summit in last year, I said, okay, hey, I need all the designs because I'm just going to publish them to everybody so that they can get them too. So they don't have to start from scratch because most people won't have a mechanical engineer in their back pocket that they can put to work on designing a container. He's like, Herrick, are you sure? I mean, like, why don't we just sell this to plants? I was like, you know, listen, it's just not how we make our money, right? You know, like just it doesn't actually matter. So how about, you know, how about we have a license for agreement with them? You know, he's like, how coming up all these things like, but I understand why you're saying this. But, you know, the reason that I love Bitcoin mining is I have no sales. I have no marketing.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then we usually tell them to sit on it, but this is the beginning of the orange pilling of that energy producer. We've now gone on to where there's one of our partners we've done two sites with now, and we're looking at a couple more with them. So it's worked so well as coming in as a buyer of last resort that they want to bring us on as they build new sites so that we become an anchor tenant from the beginning. And then there's two new sites down in Malawi that we're looking at. That will also be coming in with a partner that we've already had before. So, yeah, that's what we do. Goodless comes in and helps kind of make off-grid energy profitable with Bitcoin money.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Miners automatically. It's this perfect kind of demand response. It's like, oh, that sounds amazing. Amazing. Well, you pay five cents. And we're like, what? No, no, we don't. We can't pay you cash for this, but you can make, you know, you can make a revenue share. You'll earn part of this Bitcoin. They're like, well, how much is that Bitcoin worth? Well, it changes. Not that you got all these complications. And at the end, I say, listen, how much are you getting paid today? Would you like something more than nothing They like, yeah, okay, well, let's just try it. We often show up and we say, let's just set something up for a few months. Yeah And see how it goes. And we set up, we've got a mining container there, it's on in three days, and all of a sudden they're earning money. And they're like, oh, man, this is amazing.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But the community around that site only uses 30% of the power. So you build 100 kilowatts and 30 kilowatts is used. That means there's 70 kilowatts left over. And so we'll bump along into that little community. We'll talk to the energy guy who built it and we'll say, so what are you doing with the rest of that power? And he's like, well, nothing. And we say, well, how about we take it off you, right? And he's like, okay, well, I want to charge seven cents for this. Like, well, we can't pay for it directly, but we can do something like a revenue share. Can we tell you about Bitcoin? And they've never heard about Bitcoin. And so, or they've heard about it, but they really don't know what it is. Then we'll walk around the site. We'll look at it, and they'll be like, and we'll come back to the room that they're in, and we'll say, okay, so what do you think? You know, we can take, we can bring a mining container here or maybe just a couple shelves of miners. We can put them in there. We can monetize this energy. And when your community turns on a new maze mill or they turn on their lights in the evening, we'll power down.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Not counting what had been added in Nigeria and in Kenya and in other places. So where we're seeing a massive increase in energy being used and monetized by Bitcoin mining. And I think we're just at the beginning of it. If I look at kind of broad space, I see the demand for energy increasing in Europe and the US and other kind of more advanced countries in the world. And what I think that's going to do is it's going to increase the price for energy. And that means that Bitcoin mining will go to places like Africa. I think we're going to have a larger and larger footprint of that Bitcoin mining globally as the years progress. Yeah, so real quick on Gridlist, it's like we've been, you know, I think a number of people have heard of what we do in the past now, which is we've been looking for people who built stranded power, which basically means you're running in some off-grid energy site. Maybe it's biomass, maybe it's hydro or geothermal, solar tends to not be very good, by the way, for mining, but the others are great.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And just read up on the different stuff. And I was like, you know, I think she got a lot of this, you know, as she came and met the people at the conference. Yeah, shoot. And mining just generally speaking has gone a long way. So last year in September at the African Bitcoin Mining Summit, there was like, call it like seven or eight miners there from across the continent. This year we had it a year later in Ethiopia. And, you know, at the point we had it in Nairobi in 2023, I'd say there's a couple megawatts under use, right? Definitely under 50 megawatts under use in most of the continent. And by the time it had passed one year, we were at 600 megawatts in just Ethiopia had been added.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“These are the things that would never be said than the rest of us who actually do the mining, right? That's nothing, you know, and so we get there. She gets there. She's like, running around doing all this stuff. And I'm like, what's she doing all this for? Maybe it's for the podcast. Maybe it's for this, you know, little film she's doing. I had no idea that at least at that point that she was writing the book. And so it was cool to when I finally got the book like two days ago, I looked into it and I went straight to the mining section, of course.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, well, before we get into that, though, I mean, we should talk about how a year and a bit ago we had that first Africa Bitcoin mining summit where we're trying to get together the African Bitcoin miners from across the continent. We learn from each other, make connections, help with everything from suppliers to how to fix things, tricks and tips that we know so that we can share them with each other and people get better at what they do. And along comes this well put together lady from West Africa who is all of a sudden interviewing all of us about what's going on with Bitcoin mining. And I'm like, Charlene, what are you doing here? I mean, do you mind? Well, I play with miners a little bit. I think all to tell the story and she started did a small video on her trip here, did a bunch of interviews with different people.”
2025-01-08 · We Study Billionaires · BTC216: Bitcoin Transforming Africa w/ Erik Hersman and Charlene Fadirepo (Bitcoin Podcast) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT