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  1. That one of the books, one of the stories, there's a lot of stories in the book, and a lot of the readers have told me how helpful those stories are. So I just wanted to emphasize that because I think, as I said earlier, I think people remember stories. And a lot of the stories are pretty gripping. So what I did in that particular thing was my two granddaughters. I think they were either eight or nine, and they're not twins. They're from one Susan's child and the other was Janet's child. And they needed to buy back to school supplies. And I thought, well, who knows best what the back to school supplies are than the kids. You know, they know what they need. I don't know what they need. So I decided that since I had some other errands to do, I would just drop them off a target. So I drove up, opened the door.

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  2. That is incredible, and their ideas. I can tell you I respect their ideas. I mean, they set up a layout on the opinion pages that I thought, oh my God, this is awful, but I let them do it. And, you know, for a couple years there, I was like, oh, this looks terrible. But, you know, that's how new things start. If we keep doing the same thing over and over again, then there's no innovation. So I let them do it. And actually they're in charge. So they do a lot of things that they want to do. And I respect their ideas. And I'll tell you, that respect, it leads to self-respect. That's what's going on. They believe in themselves and respect themselves and respect each other and respect taking a chance. You know, you don't get innovation by following the rules all the time. You get it by taking a risk.

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  3. They would complain about whatever it was that I did that they didn't like or I said, also put some down that you like that you want to continue. But those forms, I mean, they helped shape the program because I listened to them and the things that they didn't like. I was like, you know, they're right. It doesn't work. And if it doesn't work for them, I'm going to have to stop doing it. And I did. So that's how the program has changed dramatically, and if you saw the newspaper, it's three sections twenty to twenty eight pages, and it's the full size paper, the size of the New York Times. And it's all done by students.

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  4. Right, respecting this idea. And then, you know, sometimes their ideas that I respect are really crazy. And I try to explain why. And sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, but just the fact that I'm listening, I think makes a big difference, you know, because that means that, you know, if you listen to someone, you at least respect their time and the fact that you think that their idea might be worthwhile. So it starts at home and then it continues in school. And here's one of the big ways that respect for students and their ideas impacted me. I would hand out these evaluation forms to kids where they could tell me what they thought of what I was doing in class. They would be they'd handwrite them, they didn't have to put their name on it.

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  5. Let me tell you what slime is. Kids are making this stuff called slime and it looks just as bad as the name. It's sticky. They play games with it. I don't know. It's kind of like Playdo, but worse. And you know it actually even leaves stains on your carpet. It does all kinds of things that you don't want. And that's all they want to do is make this slime. It's like, oh my God. And then there's videos on YouTube showing how kids make slime, you know, in their kitchen and their home. All right, okay, I'm not a slime lover, but I allowed this to happen. You know, I bought the ingredients. It's expensive. And they're busy making slime. Not only are they making slime, this one granddaughter of mine videotaped herself making slime and then put the video up on YouTube. Crazy. I had to respect her ideas.

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  6. than what you're teaching is you're teaching them to have self control as they get older. And so you do want to respect some of their ideas, you want to respect they want to play with games that you wouldn't let them play with or things like that. But then you have to then say, okay, you can do this for 30 minutes and then we're going to collaborate and you're going to do what I suggest for 30 minutes. We're going to have this collaborative model of making decisions. And I think that shows respect for their idea, no matter how wacky those ideas are. I mean, I can just tell you some of the crazy things that I've had to respect recently, and one of them Involves this thing called slime. Have you heard of slime?

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  7. And I do think that small children do need to have a lot of direction. Otherwise they're not going to learn to do it. But then as they get older, some of their ideas can be respected, and you just have to look for what ideas they come up with. You know, you can say, well, maybe their idea is OK. And one of those things is technology. You know, the use of the phone, the use of the computer. I mean, a lot of kids want to be on the computer twenty four seven. And this is really bad. So if you work with them and explain that, you know, how it affects your brain, how it affects your eyesight, how to affect your body because you don't exercise, if they understand the why, and then you can implement rules of self-control.

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  8. Okay, so I've had a child that we lived in Geneva and she wanted to do that. I'm not putting on my jacket. It's like, oh my God. It's like below whatever, you know, zero degrees out there. I mean, there's nothing like experience that teaches things, so they go outside with no jacket for, I don't know, ten minutes. I'll tell you they will not do it again. There's certain things you can allow, just consequences to teach. Sometimes, of course, there aren't things that you allow. You can't allow consequences to teach. You know, you can't, like running out in the street, you can't allow that to happen. You can't jump in a swimming pool if you don't know how to swim. You know, there's certain things that kids have to be protected. But there are things that you can allow them to learn by doing.

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  9. Respect so respect also I mean I'll start with the home so kids come up with the wackiest ideas I think we all know that nothing that I'm saying that is probably a shock you know you want to go outside in the snow without your clothes or without your

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  10. Yeah. No, you cannot go out and use a car. No, you cannot do this and that. You know, we don't want to come back home to a pig style. That's the kind of thing. Nobody wants to do the dishes, but we all want to have clean dishes. And nobody wants to come back home and find all the kitchen full of dishes and everything else that nobody did. And then also the other thing I would always say to my kids, you know, this is really training for life. This is training for not just doing the dishes, this training for all the other things you do in life. There are certain things you have to do before the next step. And so you can't just leave it and then hope it's going to come and resolve itself because it's not going to do that. And so the patterns you instill in your children are the patterns that they continue as teenagers and as adults.

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  11. The reason you want to clean the mouse or whatever is so that, you know, you can move forward with the next day and have a clean house. So there's usually things that you have to do or want to do go out, you know, shopping, go for a trip, take a walk, go with a dog or whatever. It's like oh my God, I don't think we can go right now. Yeah, there seems to be a problem with your room and with the house. You know, how soon do you think you can get this cleaned up so that we can go? You have to enforce it, at least at the beginning, and then you won't have to do it later on because once it becomes a habit and once it becomes something that they see, oh, this is a block to the next activity. The next activity is really what you know what you

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  12. Who's always needing reassurance? Always needing to be told that they're doing things right. And there's a friend of mine who wrote a book Julie Litcott Haynes. She wrote a book How to Be an Adult. And I mean, there's a lot of books out there now on being, you know, being an adult or how to raise an adult, I think her Julie's book is. And she is also here in Palo Alto because she saw the same epidemic that I saw of kids being helped too much, not being given an opportunity to try things and make mistakes. If you don't, you don't believe in yourself. You believe in your mom, helping you.

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  13. The first has a lot of scaffolding the first time I'm doing it. They need a lot of support. But each time they do it, they need less and less support. And I mean, I can travel, which I do, and I can tell you students can do things without a lot of scaffolding, a lot of support, because they then trust and believe in themselves. So this is the same thing in parenting. You trust your child to clean their room, or you trust them to make their peanut butter and jelly sandwich, or you trust them to go outside and play in the backyard without being supervised every minute. I mean, they then take care of themselves. You need that kind of trust in order to believe in yourself. Otherwise, what happens is you grow up, you become, you know, an eighteen or twenty year old

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  14. Trust in the classroom. What does trust bring to a student that they haven't had before? And if you just think in your own life, if somebody that you respect trusts you, just imagine how you feel about yourself. And that's what I build on in the classroom. I trust those kids to be able to reach the academic levels that I have, because they're pretty high, which means that they then trust themselves to be able to do the same thing. And

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  15. I'll walk you through the trick acronym, but also I want to say one thing. I have like seven other teachers, plus there's all of Palo Alto Unified that are all working with the same method now. So it's not just tied to one teacher. We all realize how important it is. So let me just tell you what trick is and what everybody's using. Trick is the acronym in my book, and I recommend, of course, my book because it has lots of stories. And the stories are what people remember. They don't remember data. They remember stories. And so I have stories about trick, trust, respect, independence, collaboration, and kindness. And so I have stories about what is it like to have trust in your home and trust in your relationship.

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  16. And it's that simple little thing if the student comes and says, by the way, I'm having problems with this paragraph, they'll help, and they'll help with any part of the article, but they're not going to go in there and say, oh, this is terrible, you know, go do the whole thing all over again. They're going to do what I call constructive criticism, which is basically helping the student rethink what it is that they might have done that could have been better. How the school works, at least my classes work.

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  17. In the end they were super helpful. They helped me think about it, and so that's what I want to be as a teacher. Super helpful. I want to say did you think about this? Are there ways that you might want to do something different? And I have two women, one from the Washington Post, one from the Wall Street Journal, who are what we call writing coaches. They were former journalists who have retired, and they do it exactly the same way. They just say, you know, are you having a problem with your article? Is there something that I can do to help you? But they don't, if the kid doesn't come to them, they don't go to the kid.

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  18. So they don't have a self image No negative self image about I can't do it My theory is I used to write for multiple professional publications including time and I can tell you my stuff was revised repeatedly and then when I wrote this book I mean you know I'm working with all these professional editors and they made me revise this and revise that and then they would fight with each other about which revision was better than this It was like oh my god it's my book I'm gonna write it the way I want to write it but you know there was still a lot of cooks in the kitchen

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  19. And so I think teachers have it easier because I don't have that emotional bond. I can see the child more objectively, and I am also patient. They don't know how to do it the first time. I'll like no problem. We're going to do it a second time. We're going to do it a third time. We're going to do it until you get it right. And that can be anything from math to writing a paper to reading something. And so if there's no penalty for revision, kids have no problem doing it again. The reason they don't want to do it again is if they get a D and they're like, oh my God, she's never going to change my grade. You know, why am I going to ever do it again? I'll just throw it away. You know, I don't give grades until they get it right.

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  20. Well, I'll tell you it's easier it's much easier for a teacher to teach something to your child than it is for a parent. And I think one of the reasons we have teachers is because there's this emotional bond somehow that, you know, if your child isn't doing something well, there's some kind of an emotional reaction that comes in there where you get like really upset because I think you identify all those years ago when you couldn't do it. And you're like, oh my God, you know, just do it.

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  21. and is the same way at home. You know, same thing, we're not going out until everybody does x whatever it is that x is. Everybody cleans up the breakfast dishes. You know, everybody puts their clothes away. Everybody, you know, do you know most teenagers eighteen and above going to college don't know how to do their laundry? There's a course now offered at UC Berkeley called Adulting? I'm not kidding. It's like how to do how to take care of your laundry, you know, how to balance your checkbook, how I mean it's a whole course that people, kids are signing up for because, well, actually it's going to be required, I think, because kids are coming to school without knowing these skills. And we, the parents, are contributing to this because we do everything for them.

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  22. That's correct. It's more inner directed. And, you know, You know, it just makes so much sense. It works in the classroom too. So easy in a classroom. On the first few days, you put up, this is the goal of the class. You know, all classes have goals. It's, you know, the Common Core State Standard. We all know what we should be teaching. The question is, how do we reach that? How do we get to that point? How do you learn U.S. history? What are we going to be doing? And if you bring them in and allow them to come up with some of the rules of how we're going to be doing this, then you don't have to enforce it. Because they came up with the rules.

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  23. to self regulate because they know that they're at their part of a group, part of a team. And, you know, making dinner, for example, coming up with the recipe just like what are we going to have dinner for dinner on Sunday night? Do you want to help plan dinner? Do you want to help plan let's go shopping? Why don't you help decide what we're going to buy for dinner? We never do that. Most parents just don't do that because it's they think it's going to take too much time. I don't really want to hear what they want to eat. They're going to eat what I tell them to eat. They're going to do what I tell them to do. But if you set up this collaborative idea where the family is a unit, it's a team, much easier for your kids to do what it is their part.

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  24. But then in terms of like rules around the house, some of the things are you have to pick up your toys, you have to pick up after yourself. Okay, let's set up a program, a pattern of behavior, where we're going to decide how are we going to clean the house. What do you think we should be doing? How should it happen? You know, mom doesn't want to clean the house all the time. Dad doesn't want to do that either. You know, you're part of the team, even though you're smaller, you're younger, you're still a team member. So let's see what we as a team can decide about how we're going to clean the house, how we're going to clean your room, how we're going to do the laundry, things like that. You know, when they see themselves as part of a team effort, it's much easier for them.

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  25. Right, so we can talk about the role of parents So we all have things we want our kids to do. And when they're little it's harder to collaborate with them but you can still set up the pattern about what is it that you would like to eat? You can have two or three choices so you're picking what you might want to eat. That's really easy for a little baby You give three choices so the idea is setting up choice That's like what do you want to eat?

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  26. That's the key. I mean, it's very small. The title of my book How to Raise Successful People Simple Lessons for Radical Result They're simple I mean it's just don't tell the kids what to do all the time Give them an opportunity to come up with their own ideas. You know, just take a look at home when your kids are at home. They work on things they want to work on. I mean, they might be doing gaming all the time. Gaming, gaming can actually be very productive. My theory with gaming is for every hour that you game, you should spend an hour coding games. Maybe you can restructure games so that they are played the way that you like them. I mean, kids love to do that. So there's a lot of ways of working with students that are much more effective than dictating and telling them what to do. Collaborative parenting is what I call it.

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  27. and then they wrote articles about feminism and like how feminism works today. What's going on? Today they're writing stories about social media and the impact of social media and how it really impacts them and their world. I don't care what they write about. You know, they get to choose. And if you came to class, you would see there's groups of them. The classes usually have, it normally had like 70 kids in it. And they break up into groups. And one group works on like the newspapers and another group works on the features pages and the other group works on the editorial pages. And I'm overseeing everything together with my colleague. His name's Rod Saturaite. And we oversee. We don't dare.

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  28. I mean, they did a spreadsheet on divorce, for example. And the question was, how does divorce affect kids? They wrote it from their perspective. Like, okay, we know how it affects you. If you're getting a divorce, but how about the kids?

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  29. Them at least eight weeks to figure out something that they want to write about, something that they're interested in. They're waiting for me to give them topics like five different topics and then they can choose between the topics. It's like it's never coming, it's the whole world. You get to pick everything between whatever you're interested in is what I want you to work on. And after the first, you know, eight or ten weeks, they get better at it. By the time they're in the 11th grade or the 12th grade, they become experts at it. If you saw the stories that are in the publications, you would say wow, but they're all stories that the kids have come up with. They're all things they are interested in.

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  30. But what I'm teaching them is to how to express themselves about something that they're already interested in. So I try to make sure that I understand what they're interested in. And I'll tell you, please have a hard time figuring out what they're interested in when they're in the tenth grade. That's when I get them. And the reason I have such a hard time is because they're so used to being told what to do.

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  31. In a little town called Sunland Tahunga, the name of the school was Verdugo Hills High School. It's still there, it's still, you know, a big, you know, New York Los Angeles City High School. But I, you know, I conformed while I was there. But then I was really happy to go away to school at Berkeley. far enough away, you know, at least eight hours by Bess. So that was, I think that was how I made the decision. And then when I was teaching, first teaching and reality. that if I follow the system that I was told to do by the schools of education, that my students would be just as bored as I had been, and so I took a risk And I'd change the way I taught and I changed the way. I changed the whole system from in my class at least.

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  32. And I was part of that free speech movement, my theory at Berkeley while I was there was I'm not getting any help as a freshman, the classes are huge eight hundred people in a class, and then I get to graduate school, and in graduate school there's like eight people in a class said this is upside down. I needed it when I was a freshman. I don't need it now that I'm a graduate student. I know what to do. I mean, I spend all those years struggling. And so I was always sort of rebellious and wanted to change the way that we were educating students and make it more useful, relevant, helpful. I saw a lot of my peers just drop out. I mean, I was one of the few kids that went on to college. Most of the kids, they didn't go anywhere. They just went to work. I grew up in Los Angeles.

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  33. You know, it came about because my own personal education was very difficult. I mean, in elementary school I got into trouble all the time because I didn't listen. I was forced to sit quietly and do nothing. And it's, you know, most kids, they just get mad. And as I grew up, I realized that if I ever taught I was going to change the system. I was never going to let kids suffer the way that I had suffered. And, you know, I became a very good student. I mean, in high school, I excelled. I was really great at memorizing and following instructions, but I was basically a rebel inside. And then I went to Berkeley, UC Berkeley, which is basically in the sixties the home of rebellion.

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  34. So yes, I did land on this naturally. I basically did not want to teach in the traditional method, where just as you describe, you know, the teacher's in charge, all you're doing is memorizing, memorizing things that you don't want to memorize, that you see no relevance for memorizing. So I changed the whole structure starting in the 1980s and I was, as you can imagine, seen as kind of a maverick, what is she doing in that classroom? And fortunately, by the time they got really serious about it, I already had tenure, so it was okay for me to continue doing this, even though there was a lot of sort of oversight of people like, you know. These kids they need to sit quietly and memorize and I said well not in my class

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  35. Students need to be able to understand what's important from what's not important in the research that they get. You know, when you do a Google search, how do you evaluate the results of that search? That's another thing that we teach in journalism. I mean, journalism is really the curriculum for the twenty first century. You don't have to be a journalist. You just have to be a consumer of journalism to need it.

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  36. Are very suspicious when you see a URL that you've never heard of before. You're like, oh, maybe that isn't, you know, maybe that's a fake URL. You know, kids learn what good resources are. What's a good source? Who do you quote in your story? Are you sure that you're quoting people on both sides, not just biasing the story? You learn so much, and this is the age of social media. That's what I mean that's governing the whole world social media. We all get up in the morning and look at our phone. As a matter of fact, one of the recommendations from sleep experts is don't sleep with your phone. And the only reason they say that is because I think lots of people are sleeping with their phones. And that's probably not a good idea. Interferes with your sleep, and then you become addicted to your phone. And so also.

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  37. is at the end no one's going to get there, even if you tell them you're going to give them a pot of gold. They'll never find out because if the first part, the lead of the story, isn't engaging, then you know you've lost the battle. So you teach them how to communicate how to write really well, how to speak well because they have to work within teams. No one puts out a newspaper or magazine alone. You have to work with people. Other people. And then in addition to that you learn all the tech skills. You learn media literacy because it's all done online. You know, not only do we publish in hard copy, but we publish every publication has an online presence. And so you have to learn how to use social media, you learn how to understand social media.

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  38. Journalism is the subject of the future. It's the curriculum for the twenty first century. And it's because just look at what a journalist learns to do. First they learn to collect information from multiple sources. You know, they can be online, they can be in interviews, they can be just observing, walking around, and then you have to take all that information, all that data, and figure out what's most important. And I can tell you that's really, really hard for most people. They cannot figure out what's most important in all the information they collect. And so this is a skill that students develop. And then not only do they figure it out, they then have to write about it in a way that's engaging, because I always say to them if the most important part of your story

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  39. We have something for every kid, and if we don't have it, we listen to them, and then we create it, whatever kind of program they're really interested in doing. So we have over 700 kids now. And I have six other media arts teachers. It's very exciting.

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  40. But the journalism program grew from nineteen eighty four to nineteen eighty nine it grew from twenty students or so to more than eighty students. So the question was what am I going to do now with all these kids? There's just too many of them. And that's how the beginning of the Palo Alto Media Arts Program started because After a while I realized, you know, they all can't be in one class, even though I was having huge classes because I don't have enough room in the publication to publish all their stories and I wanted to do that. So I started additional publications. And today twenty twenty, can't believe twenty twenty there's over ten publications, including magazines. There's one newspaper, there's television, there's radio, there's podcasts, there's video production, there's movie making, graphic design.

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  41. And so I decided that that just wasn't compatible with being a mother and being, you know, and my husband is a professor of physics and he would gone all the time giving lectures and doing his research. So I thought, well, okay, I can't be a journalist. Why don't I teach journalism? And so that's what happened. I applied for a job as a teacher at Palo Alto High School in 1984. And that's how I ended up being a journalism teacher. And when I first started the program had about nineteen or twenty kids in it, it was a small journalism program, and of course I was required to teach other things, so I taught English at one point I taught math. I actually thought that was pretty.

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  42. Well, I should preface that with my passion in life has been journalism all along from the age of fourteen. I've always wanted to be a journalist and I was a journalist and I loved working in journalism. But then what happened was that I ended up being in a situation where it was very difficult for me to be a journalist. I lived in Palo Alto, all the exciting journalism locations were in San Francisco or San Jose. I had three small children and the question is like now how am I going to do this with three small kids and their schedules are different being a journalist means you have to run out and get the story you know no matter when it is and so and where it is so you can be running all over the place

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  43. And I would recommend that it's a very short book, short story must be eighty pages at the most, and it talks about a fisherman who managed to pull up an oyster with what was called the pearl of the world. And he had the most amazing pearl, and the story talks about what happened to him as a result of having that pearl. So I don't want to give it all away, but I just would really recommend it that it's a great book for everybody to read, and especially for young people to read.

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  44. Well, a lot of billionaires keep people at a huge distance, and you know their houses are surrounded by fences. You know, they can't go to the beach, an ordinary beach like, you know, you and I go to, they buy private islands because they're afraid of all these people. I can tell you, being on a private island is really boring. There's nothing there besides sand and, you know, the palm trees and water. I mean, honestly, I go to the beach because it's fun to look at other people. It's fun to meet people. It's fun to be in the water with other people. I don't find being in the water all by myself a really exciting thing to do. I think that's one of the real drawbacks of having a lot of money. You know, in my eighth and ninth grade classes I used to teach a book by John Steinbeck called The Pearl.

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  45. Hard time making friends, and I'm talking about friends people who really care about you and have a good relationship with you. And part of the reason they have a hard time making friends is they're never sure whether somebody wants to be friends with them because they have a lot of money or somebody really likes them. to figure that out. When you have a billion dollars, it's hard to figure out whether that person is there because of your money or whether they're there because of you.

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  46. Well, I think we get the notion, especially from money, that because you have money, then you have all this ability to do things. And while that might be true, you know, you have the ability to fly first class, ability to travel where you want, to buy these houses that you have always dreamed about, and I think that money does help you need some money in order to be able to live in a reasonably decent place and have clothes and have food and have an ability to take vacations. They don't have to be really glamorous, but you don't need to have tons of money. You don't have to have billions. You don't even have to have millions. And I think people assume that if you have the money, that you then somehow going to be really happy. But I've seen people who have a lot of money, you know, millions and billions. And they have a really

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  47. That's a great question. You're getting to the heart of the question right away. I think what makes somebody successful is when they believe in their dreams and also have the support to achieve those dreams. And when they feel pretty good about themselves, I think that that's probably the number one definition I have of success because a lot of people think that when I'm talking about success, I'm talking about having a lot of money. And that's not true because I've seen a lot of people with a lot of money who are pretty unhappy. I think having support by people that care about you love you and people where you have a good relationship and where you can actually achieve some of your dreams. That success.

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