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  1. Thank you. I appreciate it and I appreciate your support. And you have a great show. And I'm proud to be on it. Thank you.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  2. I have legislative success there. You know, it's not really been the forum that I felt that I could leverage what I'm about and my celebrity and my reach because it's so bureaucratic and so partisan. So, you know, yeah, when people hear an authentic voice that makes sense to them, they want them to represent them. And I find that extremely compelling and flattering, you know. I've always kind of vacillated about that because I felt like sometimes I have greater ability to speak freely outside of that than inside.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  3. Well, I say think about where you're spending your money and what companies you're supporting. Become mindful. Otherwise it's very tough to win on behalf of the little guy. But eventually, you know, that well is going to run dry. They're going to run out of product.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  4. The last thing I said to them was now you couldn't make a deal with two unions. Congratulations. And we got up and marched out. I think that it was very difficult for SAG and Afghan emerge. Difficult because there are different cultures. They're run differently. And they have different needs. We have an ongoing dialogue and we're mutually supportive of each other.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  5. The studios within the union. you get out of the Uber partisanship the only reason why I bring this up Is because you need a breath of fresh air. You need somebody to say, we have to do it a different way. This isn't right. It's not working. There's enough wealth for everyone. Yes, the model, you know, is still developing and growing, but we have to take the foundation upon which we are building this business along with us.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  6. Somebody is going to have to have character and courage. Somebody is going to have to say, We need to work with these people and not try and marginalize them or make them feel disrespected. We're doing something wrong if this is how they feel. When I entered this union and I saw the level of partisan dysfunction I said, you know, this should never be. This has to be blamed on leadership. Because people are always going to fall into the obvious pit. You know, if they're let loose. So you need very strong leadership from the students.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  7. That's correct. And we were in a cone of silence while we were in the negotiating room. Once the strike. Was declared, you know, we're allowed to speak.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  8. They said we want to break the WGA. So that's their mentality. They're not looking to work with us. They're looking to destroy us.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  9. Their position is to stonewall us. If their position was, you know what? They have a point. Let's sit down and break bread. Could all be resolved, but to say no. You can't be in that pocket, even though the other pocket has dwindled down by sixty six percent.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  10. They don't want to talk to us, so there's no next steps. We would have started talking the minute we said we're on strike. They're punishing us. You know, the land baron.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  11. At some point, you have to be able to factor in. How actions are going to impact people, environment, other life, everything, you know, and I don't see any real evidence of that. I see a lot of greed and a lot of power and a lot of, you know, testosterone. I don't see a lot of mindfulness about how actions

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  12. Though that's the way it's going. What is in the best interest of the collective You're ultimately, because we're all in the same boat, we're all going to sink.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  13. unbelievable animal abuse and complete unsustainable patterns of farming that have lowered The nutrient value of everything we eat

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  14. I don't know what it is about this species. That feels like it's okay to get rid of human beings. And willy-nilly and not with any long vision of how it's going to impact people. It's just like accepted, yeah.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  15. Every time it's used, every time it's used consent and payment, yes, because otherwise we're going to be You know, we don't even know, and it's not just me, it's you. It's everybody.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  16. Well, they definitely don't know. They don't even know where streaming's going. And yet they dived in head first. without any concern about any kind of recourse. And that gives us all the more reason. They keep saying we don't know. We haven't made that. So it's like, so what? You want me to trust you with AI now technology? So that you can dig yourself a depot and pull us down with you. Forget about it. It must have barricades put around it.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  17. So I said subsequent to us going on strike and seeing how much energy is happening now because it has awakened A global labor movement, they're kind of left behind with 5%. Okay, so you're going to stick with that

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  18. On TV, and I'm thinking, well, maybe they wanted to close for fear that we were going to go on strike, and at least they could still go out and sell their movies. I don't know. To me, it's a sell out. And I got an email from a director friend of mine who's part of, I guess they divide their union into pods. And there's a pod leader. The pod leader sent out to his pod My speech And said, This is the way real leadership puts it.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  19. There's Well, we need to catch up to inflation. So with the 5% in real money. We... won't be making what we made in 2020 and this is supposed to sustain us till 2026 i can't go to these working people With that deal, I mean, I'm even trying to understand why the directors. Agreed to that. And then I'm watching all these directors selling their movies

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  20. I think that we need to get, if there's a subscribe, look, it's like any other business. You have a botake on the corner. You have rent to pay, you have merchandise to pay for, and then you go out and you try and sell to the neighborhood. That's what the average business model is. You pay for everything. We have to be factored into however they chop up that pie.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  21. Well, it's always revenues. Revenue sharing, that's it. You know, there's money there. People are making money. They just don't want to give us our piece of that. Even though they're building their entire platform on our backs.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  22. And D said to me, you know, we figured out a way to make more revenue. And getting into the appropriate pocket for this business model.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  23. You know, I think that we would be happy with just getting a piece of each subscriber, even if it's a half a point. And then we'll divide it up as we see fit. And that would create a whole different instead of us, you know, trickling down into a career that no longer is sustainable our union would be able to flourish. And I mean, I had a meeting with the CEO of the NFLPA.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  24. And I even said when we called, we initiated calls with some of the CEOs in the 11th hour because we weren't getting anywhere with the negotiating team of the AMPTP. And they kept saying, you know, we don't, we can't do that. We're producers and we don't have A piece of that. So we can't give away what we don't have. And you know what it was like talking to Sam Drucker on Petticoat Junction. He took off this hat. He was the man. He put on that hat. He was the postman. It was like, what?

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  25. With always the caveat that the amount wasn't the issue, nor was the technique of how we did it wasn't the issue. Just come back to the table and let's talk about it because that's the pocket that is where you want to get into it. You can have a meaningful negotiation.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  26. So whether you were a regular or a guest, that didn't matter. You would always get a little residual in your mailbox. And that was a thing that kept people going. But why did you get that residual? Because the studio kept making money.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  27. The nanny was the old business model, which actually very successfully shared the wealth with all the above the liners. And each season, we might do 28 episodes in a season. Now you're lucky. If you get 10. So that's two thirds less. We would go six, seven, nine, ten seasons if a show was considered successful. Now it's limited to three or four seasons. And then that's it. They came up with the term limited series So the old model was predicated off of eyeballs and ad dollars. And as long as those two things were there, it stayed on the air. Longevity was the name of the game. And after it ran on broadcast television, network TV, then it went into syndication. It went on cable. It went around the world. And it kept making money.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  28. It's okay what it is, and we'd like the caps to be raised. There isn't enough product and enough airings of it and enough tail to it to compare. Yes, people make less what it was based off.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  29. You know, AI is a very serious concern. I don't think that there is a top. I think that everything has to be dealt with and nothing can be neglected. It's going to be a seminal negotiation, and they're not going to want to do it because They want to give away ice winter. That's all you get. And not even that much.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  30. Residuals based off of much shorter episodics, much shorter series seasons, and no tale, no syndication. Know nothing. It's not the place to really have a meaningful bargain.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  31. We'll figure out Gets what? But we're building this platform. And all they want to do is keep looking at the pocket that they keep reducing, reducing, reducing.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  32. I think that our new structure with this new business model should be tied to subscriptions. For me, the stock market should have a big casino sign above it with flashing lights. That's not my jam. But if the business model that has so significantly changed our industry is tied so heavily to subscribers, then we need in on that pocket.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  33. And First of all, nobody that makes $78,000 a day should talk to us about what's realistic. That's the first order of business. The second thing is when it's his fortune is tied so heavily to that. You know, stock performance, then. How does it should be tied to how, you know, how he runs the company, what the general psyche of the company and the feeling of everybody in it. Is but that's not it, so he is being also like he's a certain type of personality. That is going to put his own personal wealth and ambitions over doing the right thing. Do the right thing. How much money do you need? You're going to be the richest one. Isn't that enough without taking the food off the table of the journeyman performer? It's like, I don't even know who these people are. How they

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  34. You know, I finally get to a human being and nine out of ten times they're not even American. When I get an American and they're real, you know, I find them to be excellent at what they do. And the company should hire more of them. But I think that this is something that's happening everywhere. And, you know, it's like the frog in the water. You're not even realizing that before we know it, we're cooked.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  35. It is what it is. Sometimes these things can backfire. I'm not manipulating anything. It's really obvious what's happening. It's happening everywhere. I was in Santa Monica and there was a little box on wheels delivering stuff. And I thought to myself, that used to be a person on a bicycle. What happened to that person? When I make an airline reservation, I'm going through this robot all the time. And I keep saying, I want to speak to a person. I want to speak to a person until it.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  36. The eyes of the world, and particularly the eyes of labor, are upon us. What happens here is important because what's happening to us is happening across all fields of labor. By means of when employers make Wall Street and greed their priority and they forget about the essential contributors that make the machine run.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  37. And to me, I would never think that way. I would have the courage to walk into and character, I might add, to walk into the boardroom and say, this is wrong. This is not the way to build an empire. This is unsustainable. They are so key to who we are and what this business is, it behooves us to be inclusive and make them happy. And I have proved that as an executive producer, you know, and as an employer over and over again.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  38. I think that the bottom line in what is a collaborative art form Is getting more shareholder money. By getting more subscribers. That's at the core what the issue is. And then you've got the CEO that gets massive bonuses with the shareholder success. So it's very tied in with Wall Street. And it has turned its back on the creative people that are foundational to the business So I, you know, I can't really speak to if we're all going to be, you know, I that's not my vernacular. All I can say is that We stand at a time when big business feels like it's okay to marginalize people and systematically squeeze them out of their livelihood while those at the top are fat cats and the people that are the shareholders and major and minor investors are also getting rich off of the backs of the people that actually are the product

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  39. Know all of these AI and streaming. Digital, all of it. So I was surprised that they gave us so much pushback when to me, it makes perfect sense that if you're going to change the business model, where's the big surprise that the contract has to change too? We're dealing with a contract that structure was created in 1960.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  40. Not that they didn't think they thought it of me. But that they thought that this wasn't going to be a seminal negotiation when the industry has changed so dramatically.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  41. I've looked at those people across the table and I thought, what is this business you are in? It's how do you sleep nights? Your whole job is to screw us. When we have the foundation of your business.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  42. I did not know I was going to make a speech. They had teleprompters and something typed. I glanced down at it. I said, I have to speak from the heart. And our chief of communication said, you do whatever is good for you. And that just came out of my mouth. All of that just came out of my mouth. So, you know, I live my life differently. I've been in leadership. I'm a boss. I employ people, but always with respect and honor. This is the way I just am. I come from a very humble and provincial background. When I was a small child, my dad worked two jobs. So, you know, to me, you honor the people that work for you. You make them feel respected. You give them a piece of the pie. So it's not this mentality of, you know, marginalizing you and squeezing you out of every last time.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  43. And so it came with great sadness that we came to this crossroads, but we had no choice. We are the victims here. We are being victimized by a very greedy entity. I am shocked by the way the people that we have been in business with are treating us. How far apart we are on so many things, how they plead poverty, that they're losing money left and right when giving hundreds of millions of dollars to their CEOs.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  44. And, you know, we try and individually go for the best contract that we can. And neither one of us were willing to sell out this time at all.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  45. I think Duncan was in conversations with him. I do not think that impacted our decision whatsoever. I'm happy for them that they have this kind of renewed energy because they've been walking the picket lines for over two months. But, you know, we complement each other. We are not the same. We have different needs.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  46. So, no, we had a talk on members into. Extending then, but we really wanted to be able to feel like we had left no stone unturned. And so that was what we did.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  47. Meanwhile, they got another week out of us to promote the SMA movies, okay? And they had the nerve when the extension expired. They wanted us to extend again. And I said, after that lousy performance he gave us, are you crazy?

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  48. Had nothing. I mean, it was like shocking. What were you canceling over? What was going on there? And I think in a way, we might have been duped so that they could buy.

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  49. And so, you know, by the time the contract ran out on June 30th, we felt, you know, let's see if we can avert a strike. Nobody wants a strike. It's just we're at that breaking point where if we don't get a contract that respects and honors us, we're going to have to strike. Okay, but in earnest, let's extend the longest extension that we've ever given in any negotiation. That was when they kept canceling our negotiating appointments and locked themselves behind closed doors. And I kind of thought, well, maybe they're duking it out. Maybe there are people in there fighting for us. Let's make a deal. Other people, you know, not wanting to. And then when they finally surfaced, they really...

    2023-07-20 · On with Kara Swisher · Fran Drescher on the SAG Strike and Hollywood’s "Fat Cats” · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  50. That was during the extension. You know, they gave us a very, you know, an unusually small window, the smallest window we've ever had to negotiate a very large contract that represents a lot of different career paths.

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