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Fran Millar

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“No, absolutely. And we openly say that not all people, there's nothing wrong with not being able to meet them. You've got to be compassionately ruthless. You know, that's what he always says, which is basically if you're not, he set a standard if people can't meet them, then they're not in the right organization. And it's better, it's a bit like the arrogant asshole. It's better to be honest with them and say, you know what, this isn't for you than to kind of allow them to keep failing. Think that can be very cruel to people. If they're in an environment where they're constantly trying to be better, but they just can't do it. That's, yeah.”
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“And it's that kind of all the way through my career with him, he would do that. And I'd be like, he's just clever like that. You know, he's ferocious appetite for learning, unrelenting work ethic, you know. Expects incredible sets, incredibly high standards and expects people to meet them.”
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“In all kinds of ways, you know, he's very, I think I've spoken about it on other interviews I've done. He can be very particular. He's very detail orientated. He wants to know all the facts before he makes a decision. He'll go after something for ages and age and age. He's like, oh my God, make a decision or get on with it. And then he'll make a decision that's totally off to the other side. And you're like, so amazing. Or it's brilliantly genius because you think, oh, all that work that you were doing, the decision I would have made and just got on with it and made the decision would have taken us that way and that would have been the wrong way.”
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“Big question. I mean, him and Steve Peters are the two most influential men in my life without a shadow of a doubt. They are symbiotic because they are, I think if Dave hadn't had Steve, he maybe wouldn't be who he is. And I think if Steve hadn't met Dave, he maybe would be a slightly different version of himself. So they complement each other brilliantly. Dave is a brilliant man manager. He's incredibly visionary. very brave. You know, you said the thing about jumping off a cliff and hoping you get your gliders. You thought Dave's the king of that. Dave's like, we're going to go and achieve that. And everyone's like, fuck off. And he's like, come on, let's go. And people are like, okay. Because he's so bold with it. He's so confident with it. And he's an incredible leader that people literally, I mean, I would have followed that man off the edge of a cliff. And I think that he has that quality in him, you know. He's unrelenting.”
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“Used to. Haven't done it for a while now, actually. Yeah, like white collar crime, I think sometimes. But yeah, I sort of, I used to love doing it. Like I really did used to love doing it, but I've also, I feel like the bit that I talked about, which is some of the stuff I've just said, I feel like that's a bit of my past now and I want to build a new. Path for myself before I figure out telling people about it, if that makes sense.”
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“Non negotiable. If you sit in a meeting room and you agree with something and you say, yeah, okay, whilst I don't agree with it, I buy in. You know what I mean? I've given you my point of view. You've said it's not the way we're going to go, but I buy in. And then you walk out the room and you're like, I don't fucking buy that. That is one of the worst losing behaviors you can have because it's insidious and it goes around a whole organization can be destroyed by virus. So things like that.”
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“So, that kind of management of self-absolutely critical. And then team was all about the impact that you have as a team member. You know, I think people kind of think teams are this kind of static thing that you create a great team and that's it. It's like, as you will know, having run six very successful businesses, teams are like these organic, ever-changing, you know, you could bring one person in and have a massive impact on the team. You take one person out. It can ruin a team. Do you know what I mean? So this sort of the dynamics of a team and your role within that are crucial. you know, not wearing your team kit, you know, wearing a slightly different trainer, you know, criticizing the team, not buying into the sort of collective opinion, not sort of Dave B has this really big thing about he'll listen, he'll seek counsel from everyone, he'll listen to everyone's opinion. He wants to get to a collective opinion. He wants to get to a collective view of what the right direction is. But ultimately, if we can't get there, he'll make the call and then you've all got to be on the bus.”
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“But they were self was all about identifying your own emotion, managing your own emotions, being in control of your own emotions, so a losing behavior of that would be losing your shits, you know, being aggressive and arrogant with people, not being able to recognize when you were too emotional to be in a high performance environment. We have this, the whole chimp model, you know, thieves' philosophy around that is there's nothing wrong with being emotional. There's nothing wrong with having a chimp, but you have to know when to get out of the room if that's what's going on. Don't bring your emotion into an environment where you're expecting people to perform at their very best.”
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“Someone's worked in business. So we separate them into five different areas. We have self team, communication, continuous improvement. And what's the other one? It's gone anyway. Quickly, how quickly you move on, right?”
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“That enabled us to say to people, this is what it means to put this jersey on, this is what it means to be a part of this team. It's not just about, you know, the glory and the winning. This is hard graft. This is, you know, it was arguably the hardest thing I've ever done, you know, working in that environment. It is unrelenting. It's brilliant and it's amazing and incredibly good fun, but it's hard, hard work. And you've got to go all in. You know, this isn't this isn't for the faint-hearted. And so the whole winning behaviors thing was about creating an environment where we could give people the parameters that we expected them to live by, but also ensure that they felt supported, safe, able to deliver their very best in an environment that is actually very high pressure. So that was my job effectively, helping Dave create the behaviors in the first instance with the whole team and then helping keep them alive within the business.”
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“Criticizing people behind their back or whatever, that's not acceptable, but being head of losing behavior would have been shit typical of wrong behaviour. So it was all about creating a set of behaviors for the organization”
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“If we were serious about continuing and continuing to be successful, codifying what had got us where we were was going to be crucial. And we'd also seen for those of your listeners who are cycling fans, we'd had the Bradley Wiggins and Chris Brooms kind of divide. So Brad had obviously come first in 2012, but Freem had come second. Bradley didn't even rode the tour again. So Bradley didn't ride in 2013. Freemed, and he went on to win. And you started to see this divide in a team where it's like, well, I'm Team Bradley or I'm Team Freeman. And it's like, well, no, check your paycheck, your team sky. And that kind of actually, who are we? What do we stand for? What do we expect from people? What do we need to be able to do to be the best in the world at this? Needed codifying and it needed a way of a sort of charter almost to tell people this is how you're going to have to do this. And really, it was about eradicating losing behavior. It was about saying to people, bitching, backstabbing, saying your team threw me or your team brad or, you know,”
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“Bradley won the tour in 2012. So, within the space of two years, effectively, we'd done it. The following year, Chris Freen won it. And we had gone from being this team that was like on a mission, like heads down, asses up, and we were going, like there was nothing was going to stop us. We were full on. And so when people sign up to that, you know, people are signing contracts in 2010 with a team that doesn't exist, that has never raced on the road before, that comes from a track background, that's full of Brits who aren't historically that famous for road cycling. They were signing a kind of, you know, they were, they were adventurers, right? They were like these bold ambitious, this is a bit batshit crazy, but we'll do it. When people were signing contracts at the end of 2013, they were signing with a team that had won the Tour de France twice that was arguably the most dominant team in the sport that had gone on, you know, sort of achieved these incredible feats. And they had a different expectation of what they were joining to what we were. And we suddenly realized that.”
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“It was when it was Team Sky, but the same same. So basically 2010, we first started racing. We'd started the team into, we begun the journey of starting the team in 2008 off the back of the Beijing games. Started racing in 2010. We were shit, like embarrassingly shit. And we'd been like smoke and mirrors.”
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“Had the same email my whole life. Do you know what I mean? It's like all that kind of stuff. This doesn't shouldn't be that important, but felt really significant.”
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“How did you feel though about? Because I found it really traumatic. Like I kind of felt like first where I felt quite out of control. It was like I'm out of control of this now. Literally said goodbye to my team who I'd worked with for 10 years and got on a train, woke up the next day and went into Bellstaff. I'm like, hi, I'm your new CEO. And the trauma of kind of all of it, it felt I had to move out my house. I had to go and do say goodbye to people, have a different email”
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“Save young British talent from going through what David went through. And it's like actually, what do I want to do? Maybe I want to do something different. And that just planted a seed, really. And I think I probably went and spoke to the chairman, you know, if I'm on honest, I went because I thought, I want to go and do something different. I'm ready. I'm ready to move on. I'm ready to do something that's not this anymore. And it was almost like a kind of involuntary. I think everything else about me was like just stay because it's comfortable and it's easy and you get good money and it's, you know, nothing's going to, nothing bad's going to happen. But my soul was like, you've got to go and do something else now. And it was literally like in the space of two weeks. It was like, boom, I'm out of here.”
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“And I was working so hard, like, I was literally crippled by it, but I loved it. And I came out the other side of it, not so much just because we'd done it, obviously. I mean, that was incredible, but it just really made me realize that I was just going through the motions in the cycling job. I was just, I was ticking over. I was really comfortable. I was good at it. I loved it. I was happy. I liked the people, but I wasn't growing. I wasn't developing. I wasn't learning new stuff. And I wasn't kind of, and I've been going at a million miles an hour, you know, sort of in the team, like on all these stuff where I was helping other people develop and helping other people achieve their potential and helping other people kind of, you know, rescue their reputations or enhance their reputations. And I was a bit like, what do I want to be doing? Like, why am I? I'm not, none of this has been about me. And even actually cycling is a little bit about David. Do you know what I mean? I was on kind of this journey to this sort of.”
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“And so I stayed at INEOS and then we worked on the 159 project. So Eliot Kipchogi sub to our marathon. And Dave obviously was the project lead on it. Well, he was the CEO, my boss. But he very sadly got prostate cancer in that period. So he was off doing the tour de France. Then he had to go and have surgery. And so I took on like a deputy CEO role, kind of delivering the sort of vision that he'd come up with and he structured all the performance team, but then I was doing the delivery of the event, everything from kind of working with an London marathon team to supporting the performance guys, to doing all of the engagement piece and everything else. And I loved it. As I felt like I was working 18 hours a day for like what was about five, six weeks in the build up to the first of all the test event and then through into the actual event. And I just loved it. Totally different, totally new challenged, new people, different approach, fresh. I was like, I was on literally cloud nine. I couldn't have loved it more.”
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“And then February comes 2019, he meets Jim. Jim decides that he wants to acquire the team. Jim's arguably one of the most successful businessmen in the world. We went and met with him and talked about the design of the kit and everything else. And I was like, I'm going to get sucked into this. And then one of the other senior managers in the team decided to leave and go and work for another team. And Debie was like, would you stay, you can be CEO, which was what I really wanted to be. A massive opportunity, and I was like, okay, I'll stay. And I think that was the point of the decision there that I was like, you know, this is a big career decision for me that I'm staying again. I told all my mates I was going to leave. I was like, you know, this is it this time, this time I'm going. They're like, okay, Brad.”
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“I felt, so I had done what is effectively 20 years in pro cycling. Like you say, it was all I knew. It's all I'd done. I know everybody in it pretty much. You know, I've been in and around it my whole life. I'm David Miller's little sister. It's like, you know, part of my DNA. And I loved being part of Team Sky. Like we did that for 10 years. And it was always you say cut me in the middle. I bleed blue. And I absolutely loved it. And then when Sky said they were out at the end of 2018, I was like, right, I'm done. I'm out of here. I'm not going to do this anymore. Went straight to AB. I was like, it's been amazing. I've loved it, but I'm going to, once the team stops being Sky, I'm going to go. And he was like, okay, cool. I don't think he believed me. But he was like, okay, cool. And then he said to me, look, would you help at least find a new sponsor? Let's see if we can find a new sponsor. He's a bugger like that. So I was like, okay, I'll try and help you find a new sponsor and then I'll move on.”
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“Sort of middle of last year where I was thinking, you know what, I do need to start thinking about my future and my life and my career. And I don't know whether that's always going to be in cycling and I don't know whether the CEO of the cycling team is 100% what I want. So I wanted to speak to my chairman first to kind of sound him out. And then when Dave gets back from racing, because I didn't want to interfere with the racing, have a conversation about my future. So I just literally put it on the radar of the chairman. I'm probably a little bit out of frustration for myself as well. But like I want to feel like I'm moving this on because otherwise I'm going to sit and not do anything with it. Do you know what I mean? I'm going to.”
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“So I wanted to, I'd sort of been thinking, like I said, about the conversation with Steve about kind of, I'm not sure if I'm happy doing this job anymore and if not sure if I'm fulfilled, I've kind of reached the point.”
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“But I wasn't looking to change. I hadn't planned to move on. So that was in some ways, whilst it was quite traumatic, the sort of three or four weeks of, because I literally, I got phoned like on the 16th of September and I was enroll on the 1st of October”
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“So, first and foremost, I didn't take it. I literally had a conversation with my chairman INEOS about, you know, maybe over the next couple of years, I want to think about moving on and doing something different. And when Dave B comes back from the tour, this was in September. I said when he comes back from the tour at the end of the season, I think I'd like to sit down and have a chat with McCairman and my boss Dave about my future. That was the sum total of my conversation. And literally a week later, I got a call saying, Jim would like you to be the CEO of Bell stuff. And, you know, with the best woman in the world, when Jim Ratcliffe asks you to do something, you don't kind of go, let me have a think about that. And I just thought, okay, well, what an opportunity. And I went for it.”
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“You take away the memories, you take away the happy times, take away the good stuff, but the fabric of who you are doesn't change.”
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“And that's dangerous. Like that's dangerous, you know, because actually they're not your identity. And no matter how much you love it, no matter how passionate you are about it, if you And this would be the lesson I would sort of give to myself. The sort of it doesn't matter, it's a job. You're being paid to do it, it's a job. And I would have railed against that even a year ago. Like, no, it isn't. It's more important than that. And you know, as soon as I left, I was like, and my brother always used to say to me, your team aren't your family, your team aren't your family. And I never really understood what he meant because I was like, well, they are my family. Like, you know what I mean? I love them. They aren't my family. And they leave me like, oh no, what he means is your family are there forever. Your family are wedded and you can't unpick your family. There's something that's, whereas when you leave a job.”
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“Contribution to life, like you're letting, it's a job, it's like it's a job. And I was like, you don't get it, you don't understand, it's more important than that. And you know what? When I got asked to go and do Bell's staff and I left and it broke my heart, like I cried my eyes out and I started at Bell staff and I feel awful saying this but within 48 hours I was like, oh my God, I love it here and I love the people here. And this is brilliant. I'm so excited. And actually it is just the job. That was just the job. And yes, I miss it. And yes, it was incredible. And yes, I love the people. And I still love the people, but it's just the job. It's not my family. It's not who I am. It's not my identity. It's just a part of my life. And I'll be eternally grateful for having done it. But now I've got a new challenge. And I was like, I'm really pleased I did it when I did because everyone, I think, had been saying to me for a long time, you know, once you leave, you'll be like, oh, I should have done this five years ago. And I don't feel like that at all. I feel, you know, I did that for the right amount of time. I loved it. I've banged.”
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“It's again, I'm going to reference D. Peters, but I remember because I was so wedded to my job in cycling. Like I lived and breathed it. I loved it. I cared deeply about the people. It was so wrapped up in my identity. But I hadn't necessarily got a huge amount of satisfaction out of the job over the last two or three years. For a whole host of reasons nothing to do with the team, just personal development-wise. And every time I spoke to Steve, you'd be like, well, then why don't you just leave? I'd be like, because I don't know who I am if I leave the cycling team. Do you know what I mean? And it was always a much longer conversation than that. But what effectively I was saying was I don't know who I am if I'm not that. And he said over and over again, you will be whoever you go on to be, that's not going to change. You are still there. You're letting this thing influence all these views about yourself. You're letting it influence what you, your value, your worth, your, you know, your sort of substance.”
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“Because actually, it does work. And genius, you know, it forgives a lot, right? When people are geniuses, they can behave very differently and they get away with it because they're geniuses. And there is merit in that. And I think if people are very, very, very honest with you and give you brutal feedback, as long as you're able to take it on board, you'll get better. But if someone's lying to you and saying, you're doing a great job, Stephen, don't worry about it. It's absolutely fine because they don't want to hurt your feelings. You're never going to develop.”
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“Say that for the first time. And she said, in a business, it's better. It's way better as much as it's counterintuitive to be the arrogant arshole. Because actually the feedback is what's important. So if people are getting the feedback, they're being told the truth. They are like, some people might not be able to handle it, but the people who can handle it will develop and get better. It's worse to be empathetic and not be honest than it is to be an arrogant asshole. And I was like, oh, that's why there's so many arrogant assholes in the world.”
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“The reason I ask you about radical candor is when I read it, it made a lot of sense for me about people like that, so that she basically describes this quadrant, where effectively you've got how much you care about people and how willing and honest you're able to be. And so if you're very, very honest, but you don't care about them at all, then you're basically an arrogant asshole. And if you really, really care about them, but you're really, really honest, then you're radically candid. But if you really, really care about them and you're not honest, then you're kind of, it's almost like a malignant empathy. Do you know what I mean? It's like, I'm going to be really nice to you, but because I'm not going to be honest with you, you're not going to develop.”
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“Well, you can feel those things, but I don't think you can inflict those things on other people. No, I don't think that's acceptable.”
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“And he always says, You have to be compassionate. Like even if you're telling someone they're losing their job or, you know, if you're having to give someone really honest, be compassionate, be sensitive to the fact that you're going to get a better response from someone if you're just nice to them. You can say some really, really shitty things to people and it get a horrible response. Or you can say shitty things, but get a really positive response back because you do it in a different way. So I think it's really crucial to be honest. It's really crucial to be authentic, but that doesn't mean you get a license to be a dickhead.”
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“So, yes, I do think being honest is important. I think being a dickhead to people is not acceptable. And so I think honesty can get veiled. Sorry, being a dickhead can get veiled by I'm being honest, right? Like, well, I'm just being honest and it's feedback and you should take it. It's like one of the sort of best lessons I've ever been taught and one of the most influential people in my life by a mile is Steve Peters, who's a forensic psychiatrist.”
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“And for a lot of people, that is a bit more insecure, a bit more, and that's fine. You can bring that to the table. You know, you can be an emotional person. You can be. Lack a bit of self esteem and just be honest about that. So for me, I think it's just partially how I was brought up, but more the people I have been surrounded by on the journey of my life and career, I've been incredibly blessed that they have allowed me to make a lot of mistakes and course correct me. That”
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“Yeah, I think it's probably half nature, half nurture. Like, I think my mum tells a story about when I was little and I said, you know, I'd literally go off and speak to people. She'd be sat at, you know, bar on a holiday and she'd want to know what's going on with a couple over there. She'd be like, Frances, go and ask them what they're doing. And I'd be like, okay. And off I'd go and chat to them. So I think I've always been very innately confident. And that doesn't, that's never gone away. But equally, I think I've been very lucky. I've been very blessed. I've worked with people and in and around people where I've been allowed to be myself. I've been allowed to kind of grow up and make mistakes and fail and be a bit of an idiot and get told you're being a bit of an idiot and not have that be a judgment upon me and limit me. And I think it's really interesting, that kind of, you know, being assertive or being your true self has become a bigger and bigger thing that people talk about. And actually being your true self doesn't mean you have to be assertive and confident. It means you have to be your true self.”
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“And so, yeah, I've always felt quite strongly that you just need to be yourself, be confident, be willing to get told you're a bitch, get told you're, and don't get me wrong, when I was younger, I was actually a bit of a bitch. I probably didn't measure that behavior. I was a bit like, well, it's just who I am and everyone needs to suck that up. And actually, you still have to be polite and have manners and you still have to recognize that being aggressive is actually just sometimes being aggressive. It's not being assertive. And that balance, I think I've learned as I've got older, but I think it's Yeah, I think women are judged totally differently for behaviors that men would be absolutely it would it would almost be sort of respected in a man for certain behaviors and in a woman it's reviled”
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“Sit back at the sides, and I was like, off, who does that? And then I go to meetings and I'd be like, I'd noticed that like the 19, 20, 21 year old younger women in the room, they'd wait for the guys to sit down. They'd be like, what the fuck are people? Why are people doing that? And you just, until you realize it's happening, you don't realize it's happening.”
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“It's such an interesting question because that whole being a difficult woman, I think, is the older I've gotten, the more I've kind of explored feminism and explored kind of this sort of female condition and the human condition. It's like women are judged very differently for behaviors that in men would be seen as completely normal. So there's a sort of famous kind of meme that's the sort of men are assertive, women are chippy, you know, men are confident, women are arrogant. You know, it's like the same behavior gets viewed very differently through a very different lens. I've never filtered myself. It's not been anyone who's ever met me knows that I don't really come with a filter. And I think it's really, really important that young women recognize that they don't have to apply a filter. You don't have to be the quiet one in the room. You don't have to, I remember reading Cheryl Sandberg's book about lean in and it was like, you know, young women will come into a meeting and they won't sit at the table. They physically won't sit at the table.”
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“Yeah, massively. People were really, and it was in the days of forums, you know, like when forums were a really big deal. I'd be like, okay, I'm just going to go and have a little bit of a look on a forum and see what people are saying. And I'd see people I work with commenting, you know, people who were at the Velodrome who were like doing the timing at my events. And they all, you know, literally like people wishing him dead, you know, it was just like, it wasn't cool. And yeah, I really felt. I felt it for him. I didn't, I wasn't embarrassed because I was like, you know, it is what it is. He's made a set of decisions. He's paying the price for it. But it was at that point sort of about six months after that. I was like, okay, I probably can't represent him anymore because if I have to have another conversation with a journalist, an ignorant journalist about this kind of binary right or wrong conversation where you're like, this is not how life works. I'm going to end up punching someone in the face version.”
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“Horrible human being who no one likes anymore and who has disgraced British cycling and is a, you know, he's like a complete social pariah. And I'm like, oh shit, okay, now I've still got to go and do my job.”
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“Okay, now it's all going to come crashing like he got arrested and put in prison. And, you know, I was like, oh God, this is not ideal. And I literally remember speaking to him afterwards and he'd just come out of, you know, the 48 hours in custody. And he was like, and I remember it being like a week and a half before the tour and he said to me, don't worry, France, they're still going to let me ride the tour. You know, you're like, it still makes me want to cry because it's like David, they're not going to let you ride the tour. That's not going to happen. And I think you show that little boy inside that was just like ruined by it. Sorry, it's quite emotional. But yeah, so it just impacted everything. It impacted all my decisions because at that point I was then like now I've got to go into the office the next day and I've got to stand in the vela dream events and I'm David. I'm not David Miller's sister, the kind of glory front cover of the magazine. I'm that I'm the sister of this shamed cheating lying.”
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“It's definitely created divisions because everyone had a different view of it. And then in terms of the impact on me, I went into cycling, I ran my own cycling agency. I was working in the cycling industry. I totally rode the coattails of my brother's success. And I was like,”
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“Responsible for never stepping in and saying something and never being like, you don't need to do this. I was just like, well, you know, if you're happy and you're enjoying it and you're doing well, who am I to judge kind of thing? So, I think as a family, it kind of bonded and pulled us apart. Like we kind of, we all turned a blind eye to it. I think we've all got our demons to deal with from that perspective. My dad, I think, had a very different view of it all. My brother and my dad sort of have an ongoing difficult relationship. My mom and my brother are very close. I'm very close to my dad and my mum. But, you know, so as a family, we've kind”
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“He's probably cheating. But we had all been indoctrinated into it as well. It was like, well, that's kind of you turn a blind eye. You kind of think, well, you know, he's doing really well. He's on the cover of all the magazines. He seems happy-ish. And it was only when he'd come home in the offseason and he'd come and stay with me and my mates living in London and he would drink so heavily that you'd be like, okay, this isn't normal. You're a professional athlete. And he would the depressions he'd sink into and the self-loathing that would come out. And it's like in Vino Veritas, you know, that kind of this, and I'd be like, what on earth is going on here? And then eventually it kind of, I realized what was happening and I kind of felt”
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“Yeah, I mean, the impact it had on me was I was, he never came to, he went to my mum and told her that he was doping and they sort of, she just said, will just stop, just come home. Like, don't worry about at the very beginning, he said, there's a lot of drugs. And my mom was like, well, just come home. Go to art school. Don't worry about it. It's recycling. And yet he stayed and he persisted. And then I think when he, in 2001, when he eventually made the decision to kind of cross the line, as it were, he spoke to my mum, I think, in that period. And she was just like, you know, you have to stop. You have to come home. And he was a bit like, no, I want to do, you know, I want, I want to be successful. I want to go on this journey. He never had that conversation with me. All I ever saw was the kind of, it was like an erosion of him. Do you know what I mean? It's like I could tell something was going on. I wasn't an idiot. I mean, it's like.”
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“The shock's going to get bigger and bigger and bigger. And it's like 65% of the people would have pressed the button that would have effectively killed the person in the other room. And it's like, what? And that's the human condition, right? So this idea that we would make a better decision or that we'd make a better choice or that we'd do it differently, people seem to impose that on guys who decide to cheat in sport, decide to make these decisions like, well, how dare you make that decision? It's like if you're in an environment and a culture where that becomes the norm, where that becomes what people do, this idea that you're going to be the one person who, and don't get me wrong, I know there are other people who do that and fair play to them. That's impressive, you know, that you've been brought up in a certain way to enable you to make those decisions. But David was fragile. He was impressionable. He was a dreamer. He was doing something he'd always wanted to do. He was passionate and desperate, desperate, desperate to be a success. And I think he just got taken down the wrong path, you know.”
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“Had they told me to do things, and it's that insidious thing, isn't it? It's a bit like kind of, I was listening to a book the other day about decision making and, you know, how if you look at like Nazi Germany and people say, oh, they were just following orders. And there was this big study done apparently where they put people in a room and they told them like there's going to be a student in there. It's a study. Can't remember Magran or someone who did the study. And you're going to press this button. Don't worry because to shock them.”
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“Yeah. And he's 24 years old. Like, what? He's the only exposure he's had to the professional sport is your team. So if that's what's happened, it's your team and your people. Don't get me wrong, David absolutely has to take responsibility for his decisions in that. But I, for one, know that when I was like 19 to 25, I wasn't making the best decisions I've made in my life. Do you know what I mean? And I had some influential people around me who...”
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