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“I've been struggling with this, but I think it'd be a grapevine, probably a mellow grapevine with a bag of pomerong soil. And I try and cultivate myself some wine.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It'd be appropriate, but I do love it, and it's one of the first books I remember as a kid reading, and I used to go to a library just off of Rosebury Avenue in Finsbury. It was called Treasure Island, and I remember getting the book out of reading it there.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“When I was a kid, I mean, I remember first hearing this song, you know, I couldn't believe it. I mean, it's real guts he sold, greatest soul singer ever, Afa Franklin, and one of the greatest songs ever.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I just feel I give to fighters. Because if I'm with you, I'm with you. Whatever I can do from what I have to do, I will do that in 100% more. I do put my heart and soul into what I do. I'm very passionate about what I do. Maybe sometimes you can give a bit too much. I don't know whether you do or you don't. Maybe I give too much, I don't know. You've got to have something to get up for in the morning. You get up for your family, you get up for your, you know, whatever. But you need something, I think, for your soul. I don't want boxing to be my soul. As I said earlier on, I want to be doing something that I can get up for and hopefully that I'll get something out of. So will it be boxing? I don't know, but I don't think I'll just wrap up and that'll be it.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“She says to me sometimes this is not good for you. It doesn't make you feel good about yourself sometimes. She has said that to me.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He just talked about boxing, and I just thought to myself, you know, what got me here to meet this man with boxing. It's been good for me boxing in that point. It's obviously provided a house for the family, it's provided an education.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's a love-hate relationship. I'm not sure. I've met some really interesting never have dreamed of. Nelson Mandela, after Sugar Boy Malinga beat Nigel Benny's office, called me the next day. Forty eight hours later, I'm in Joe Berg in Nelson Mandela's house, meeting this guy who's probably, for me, was probably the most impressive person I've ever met.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My next one is our green and lull love it and it's a favourite song of mine written by William Nelson called Funny Had Time So it was away.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's got the Hollywood image. I mean, you could say that probably about the music industry, you know, Tim Pan Alley, you can go back to those days you hear some of the old stories. You can go back to the movies. In all walks of life, probably that could be. But in this country, it's a very well-regulated sport. There's none of this nonsense. There's no crooked fights. I mean, the age of tabloid journalism, where you've heard Jockeys going to prison, horse race trainers going to prison, cricket scandals, rugby scandals, footballers going to prison, even ice skaters breaking each other's legs. In boxing, there's never been anyone go to prison for fixing or throwing a fight.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was. I mean, it's the stigma of it, obviously, and I did deserve, I suppose, to be banned at one time. But the problem was that we couldn't get our accounts done. We couldn't file the accounts because we had no money. Any accountants wouldn't do it without the money. It wasn't something like a corner shop. It's quite a big business.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It nearly ruined me. I had personal liabilities in those days around fourteen million quid. And what I did, again, my bit of pride and a bit of my bit of arrogance, whatever you want to call it, we really, really carried on and carried on trying to find a solution from this. I should have pulled the plug a long time before.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I put everything because I believed in what I was doing, so I put everything in, foolishly did it, but this is what I did.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Don't necessarily want I mean, there were a couple of the banks were quite supportive, but the syndication thing that I was putting together for the banks to take equity in the arena fell away. And the killer for us was the interest rate went to 16%. It was a bad recession. We were paying 3-4% of a base rate. And then I was fighting for survival. I was worried about losing the security of the home with the family, the kids and all that sort of stuff.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The worm would have Roddy played there. I brought Frank Sinatra over getting the axe in there. That was happening. At that time, I'd bought Harvey and Ed Simons out, who's his partner, and I was just before I got shot, I was putting together a syndication deal with a group of banks who actually were going to take an equity position in London Arena, which would have seen it would have seen everything okay. Everything was going great. The shooting caused a lot of problems. Then if you...”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think there is a happened to be younger in my life, I would have probably done that without a doubt. So I'm pleased that it happened when I was older. But I don't think about it. I just moved on from that a long time ago.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, no, I didn't actually, but I'll tell you, nobody would have, if anybody had tried to harm our family, then, I mean, you know, my natural reaction was to go and do to somebody what they do to me. I'll be honest about that. It was, but that's not the way to be.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“She was pregnant with Henry. They picked her up and they told her that it was 50 50 chance of me making it. Thankfully I did. And I can remember she was there.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What I do remember is in the hospital, on a trolley and the last, and I remember my uncle Bob, my dad was there, my uncle Bob and Santa, don't let him knock me out. If I was going to go to sleep, I wasn't going to wake up. That's what I really felt. It was on this trolley. We're going through the next minute all my clothes being cut off. And I'm looking up this bright light. It was like a surreal sort of experience. And these heads coming over and looking at me Coming away, and I can remember the nurse saying, We're going to have to knock you out because we've got to put some, or the dots, I might sell it. We're going to put some drains into your lungs. And that was it I was gone.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's another click he was just too far for me to grab him. Next minute I heard another bang and I felt this pain in my side. I thought, you know, it is a shock as you can imagine. Very painful. Then I could feel my throat gurgling as the blood because it went through my lung and the blood was coming up”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You think it helps me on the way to the mark I got out of the car and I heard a bang and looked round and I thought it was a joke first of all to see this guy standing there with a gunned and he was shaking like this.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was something that him and I resolved. There's been a lot of story. Amicably I think he came out to us said that Frank Warren's my best friend. I don't think we are best friends, but yeah, we sorted it out”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He's a big guy. I mean, you know, I used these heavyweight champion, or he was a heavyweight champion. Well, he's a big, big fella.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You've got to pay your bills. Well, they had to pay, they had to pay it and they didn't pay it, but they said we'll deduct it from his purse”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I said to him, You're crazy. Why are you buying it? And I negotiated the price is down by 50% anyway in the storefroom. It's just total lunacy. He also said to me, he said, I live for today. He said, it may not be there tomorrow, so I'm living for today. But the fact was, he didn't have it to spend, which is borrowing money and borrowing money”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He bought some jewelry in Bond Street. He put this like a diamond bracelet in graphs, a diamond necklace thing, and this is like nearly 2 million quids worth of jewelry here.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Regret that for me it was more about putting the event on rather than somebody else, one of my competitors putting the event on. I've got no one to blame but myself and the first show went very well but all he wanted to do was buy things and spend money.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“on with him very well. We announced the show, we put it on Sal. We could have already sold it out four or five times. That was a tremendous response for him. It wasn't so much a fight, it was more an event bringing him over. To be very honest about it. So, where was my head on this? There was somebody else in this country trying to bring him over to promote him, and I got into who's going to bring him over rather than really thinking about what I'm doing here. You know, if I look back on it, I wouldn't have brought him over, to be honest now. But I did.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Maybe at the end, but I don't think that's the case at the young age because the young age is the opportunity to do it. There are people in Moxon actually do love the sport and love what happens and have an affection for the fighters. And he made a lot of money. He made $500 million, but he blew every penny of five hundred million dollars.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“A complex character very manipulative if you don't agree with him you don't work for him. If he looks out the window and it's pitch black and he says the sun's shining, if you say the sun isn't shining, then they're gone. I mean, that didn't happen to me, but that's the type of people he wants around him. Because they're looking at Tyson as being a money-making mission. All these people looking at being a money making machine, how's he going to differentiate between what's right and wrong because anything that he does wrong, people are paying off?”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's an old song again from when I was a kid I heard it and my wife Susan and I are big fans of Billy Holiday. We listen to a lot of that at home and it's called Don't Worry About Me.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Screwed on you keep your feet on the floor, and it is very different. You know, boxers, very good boxers come from a very, in some ways, a privileged background. If you're a good young fighter, you're being looked after as an amateur, you're getting the best treatment from the amateur association, you turn pro, you're being looked after. In some ways, you can become very selfish because what I want, I'm getting. I mean, Mike Tyson's a prime example of that.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I have a team that worked with me and I do work with some of them one-on-one and it's difficult to do it with all of them but some of them I do. But the problem is I'm in the business of building or creating monsters you may say. I've got to sell them so I've got to bring the press's attention to this box that I've got and I'll bang the drum but I'm creating a monster and that monster might come back and bite me on my backside and they believe it.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, yeah. It was show biz and it was marketing towards young kids. We got him into teenagers magazines because my view, then, especially my kids were all younger then. My view then was that if they're talking about it, mums and dads pick up on it. And we can do that. We told him it's all about attitude. You've got to have an attitude. They're going to love you or they're going to hate you.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I met his mother, obviously they were a Muslim family, I met his dad Sal, who had a shop up in Sheffield and his mum. His father unfortunately just passed away. Mum and dad were very nice people. Naz was probably the most exciting fighter I'd ever been involved with.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Basically, you know, provided that the youngster, the lad, wants to take us seriously. There's no shortcuts. It's very dangerous, pretty much dangerous thing you could get involved with in sport. And to tell him, you know, I will look after, provided I'm going to get 100% for them. You know, for a boxer, there's got to give up a lot of his youth. If they get it right, it can be fantastic. They can achieve so much. They can financially secure themselves, their families, and so forth. But it can go wrong as well.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Meet quite a few of them, yeah. Because I'd like to meet the parents and let them know who they're dealing with because you really are entrusting their...”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The third track is Beetles Day in the Life. I'm a massive, massive Beatles fan. I mean, it is like poetry listening to this, and I think it's just a beautiful track.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Um, I think you let a lot of stuff out. You look at why you did things and why things happen and how you would do them in the future. And that's what I think I learned from it. If somebody has said it to me a few years ago and have gone, do me a favour, it's like a sign of weakness. But it's not sometimes you do need to talk to somebody.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Absolutely, and some things do become repetitive, and sometimes I am like that. So it's things that I have to step back, think about and take control of my emotions in those areas, and I try to do that.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yea, I took it to the limit, the whole limit. I frolled away and then we had to compromise Of wipe my mouth, do the deal, a sight to live to fight.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think the cool case I had with Don King many years ago, he and I could have sat down and sorted it out. But you know what? I didn't want to sit down because I was so aggrieved of what happened.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think it's not even get one over me. I just really stand up for myself because I've had to stand up for myself. I think when you're the oldest, you know, maybe you're the oldest kid, I don't know, but I would never back down from a situation. And that's how I was. And I think I've taken that with me into, you want to quit my business life or what I'm doing now. I fight from the corner. Sometimes to my detriment, by the way”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If you're working at the races, you make some pretty guys who are thinking on their feet, sharp characters. You meet a few scoundrels along the way. You meet from all different aspects of life.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think I was pretty streetwise kid You know, street wise, I mean, I don't beat about the boots. Come on, I mean, what are we talking about?”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Very artistic he works for Sky now. Now I've got three still at university, which is Henry. He's just started Lees and I've got Fay and George both in Manchester. So I'm pleased for them, complete for all of them. Whatever they want to do, but it can only be there for them. and to help support them and help try and guide them in whatever decisions they're going to make in life.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, no, yes, France is my oldest son with Susan, probably did because we wanted to. I think he wanted to at the time. He just didn't enjoy the experience. Jamie is from my first wife Barbara. He went to St Martin's. He really regrets dropping Ala there.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think certainly from my marriage with Susan, since I've been married to Susan and our four children, I think I've been very focused on the kids in what I feel is important, which is education, which is learning right from wrong, to be fair to everybody, all the sort of things you want for your kids. And two of my children have gone to university. Two of them dropped out. One went to St Martin's, the other one went to Exet”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My second choice was on a Beadlet album the first time of it, it's an album called With the Beatles and it was a song called Money and I was still at school and it came out and I can remember one of the older kids said to me you want to hear the original version of that by Barrett Strong and I searched high and low and got it and I think it's a cracking song and I enjoy it.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“All those things were seductive, very seductive, and you don't know any different. And there's no one really there to guide your mum was really focusing on what's happening with her and my dad. And there was no one there to help me channel.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So a lot of that shaped me. The gambling was there were street bookmakers back in the very early days. There were spielers which were at clubs where spielers were unlicensed gambling clubs. So upstairs, you know, the guy would be playing cards, dice and all that sort of thing. You get all the chaps at the time were there. And I was a young kid and I'm in there and I'm seeing some there, some sort of 13, 14, 15, and I lost total interest in school when I was about 14. And I basically was bunking. I scored the time ridiculously stupid. I went to a grammar school. I did early days. I'd done fairly well. But I just lost interest in it.”
2010-01-24 · Desert Island Discs · Frank Warren · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source