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Fred Upton

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first: 2022-06-23
most recent: 2022-06-23
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“Yeah, I think I want to wait to see how much water goes over the dam. You know, I don't know who the candidates are going to be in 24. I'll be supporting somebody else.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I did. I did not support him in 2016. I didn't know him. I said I never met him. I didn't meet him until well into his first year. And we knew we had a tough race, as we always do. And I said, our focus is going to be on our race, not anybody else's. And 2020, I support Trump on all the economic stuff. The tax cuts, the border security, a number of things. Obviously, I disagreed with him on. Know when he called a couple of my colleagues really bad names, you know, Charlottesville, other things I took him to task on that. Guns, I was for banning bump stocks early on. It took them a year before he actually did the...”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Something like that. I mean, I'll be involved. I'll be engaged politically, I'm sure, but, you know, that's not going to be my cause celebrity. That's not going to be my driving force in terms of what I decide. You didn't support.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, I'm not going to, you know, Adam has actually started his own pack. I think he's raised $300,000, $4 million. I don't have.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Actually, the bartender remembered me and the bleachers from last year. I had a hat on. I'll contest I had a hat on. Didn't want to get sunburn”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I got a lot of friends on both sides of the aisle. I've had a wonderful staff of getting things done. And I'm not done. I mean, I'm going to be involved in who knows what. Started to think about that probably the next couple weeks, what'll happen. But it's been a great run. We've got a lot of things to be thankful for. Would you run for”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Going to be hard. You don't want to get that root down. I gotta live when I married Amy when I worked for Reagan. You know, you got to cross a bridge. We live in the same neighborhood that we did when we got married. So I know that route. I'd be a good Uber driver. That's for sure. I can get anywhere I figure.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, it would have been a fun campaign. I like campaigning. But for one more term, maybe time to do something else. So once the judges made the formal decision that certified the map at the end of March is when we came to the final conclusion that it was not going to be a candidate in 22.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The commission actually wrote two new open seats. No incumbent lived there. And then they took my district and they took two-thirds of my home county and they put it with Lake Erie. So it stretches from Lake Erie to Lake Michigan. Say that with a smile. And they put my hometown literally just north of where I live, north of the river. And they took Upton Middle School away from me. They added instead of 20,000 new constituents that I would have had to grow, 350,000 and really made it impossible. And I've done this. Great staff, wonderful family, thirty six years. It would have been a fun campaign. More than”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, he spoke to the economic club, which my grandfather had started back in, I don't know, 30s or 40s. And I'm totally out of the blue, he said something along the lines of Fred Upton, when we solve cancer. I mean, he's one of the nicest guys I've ever worked with. And the Democrats went crazy, the chairman of the party was at the next table.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's a wild time. You never would have thought something like this. You know, platforms Hard right or hard left, depending upon the party, I presume you can always find something that's like, do they really agree to that? But I was very surprised to see that in the, you know, I saw it just this morning that Texas had, in fact, put in their platform that denying that Biden had won his election. When in fact he did. Most of my colleagues now, I mean, I think I was among the very first who actually complimented him on winning back in November of 2020. But to still raise that as an argument, actually have that in a party platform, there's a reason I don't live in Texas.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I don't know that he'd win in November, but I think that he has a decent shot of being our nominee if he in fact decides to run and sounds like he's going to make that decision relatively soon.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Started talking about stowing an election, you know, it's it didn't happen. You know, show us where the ballots were mismarked or whatever that would have turned it over. They haven't come up with”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, it's a result of what happened. There's no question about it. I don't think that he keeps propagating the same. Well, I know he did so this last weekend again. He's still...”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And even talked about how blasphemous it was that his child is named Christian. So we got a bunch of similar stuff, voicemails at my phone, not out at my district office, but at my home as well that was, it did warrant protection, but it would go away after a while.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You always worry, but I didn't feel that it was directed to them. They felt secure. My kids are not here in town, so no one really knows where they are. But, I mean, that's who I care about them. But it's awful.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I had protection. I mean, you'd go to the airports and police would meet me and escort me to my, you know, there's no direct flights from my district back to D.C. So flying through Detroit or someplace, I would be met by law enforcement. And even when I landed at DCA, I'd be met with law enforcement. Were you worried about...”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We've got a very smart group We got a lot of threats, most of them, thank goodness we're not from our district. That one that you just read, I think, was from South Carolina or Pennsylvania. I don't remember which one. Although Michigan is.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And so will Trump. I mean, Trump is, you know, who knows what day, what Trump will say on what day it is. I mean, he's... He's good at reversing himself on a variety of different. So, McCarthy.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But I think for Kevin, and he's working very hard, the question will be whether or not the magic mark is 218 votes in a house for Kevin to be speaker. He has to be over 230. So we have to do better than expected the free.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Kevin's been working to be speaker for a long time. I do think that the house is going to flip for a variety of reasons. I think that's highly likely”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, it shows that you're not just a one issue person, but you ought to respect someone who makes a vote of conscience, especially in light of what the january sixth Commission now is putting out in terms of the hearings that they've had and ultimately what that conclusion will be when they finish and probably in a couple weeks.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, it is important, and again, for Adam Kinsinger, I mean, his big decision was, you know, they messed up his district. Same thing with me. Rice lost, flat out, Manuel Mano. But Liz is, you know, she's raised pretty good at Mount of Money. She's going to have a good message that primary is none until mid-August. So, there's a lot of time. I mean, they know who she is. She's a good, you know.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think Peter's chances are pretty good. His district is adjacent to mine. I'm not in the same media market in that I can't get Grand Rapids TV where I live. He's worked hard. He's a remarkable guy. He didn't graduate from West Point, but he still did his time after he went to Iraq. I think he'll be fine. I mean, he's working hard as he should. We all have to do that.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And it was because of that, but he did the right thing. He will tell you he did the right thing. He has no regrets about what he did. I have no regrets about what I did. I knew it was not going to be the most popular vote for sure with my constituents, but I saw it firsthand. And I also heard the president say it was totally appropriate. And I knew better.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, and it was take Tom Rice, you know, you know, there used to be an old adage that, you know, people complained about Congress because they care more about their re-election than they do about the job that they do. Clearly not the case with Tom Rice. I mean, it was a really tough”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and with his wife and brother, my colleague Greg. And I think that would have happened on the House Chamber, frankly, had that woman not been shot trying to get through the doors.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, to go in reverse order, the leadership really said it was a vote of conscience. They said that. And that's how I viewed it. And, you know, as I talk to members, so I was not in the chamber when it was almost overrun. I talked to a lot of people that were, so I didn't have that fear or panic as they were led then to the Longworth building to the place of refuge, as I stated my office the entire time. But I just, you know, we came looking back, I would agree with some that say we came back within a few minutes of really a massacre of members that had been on the house chamber.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But we'll find out soon. I mean, that is what the next hearing is as we talk about it today. I think the next hearing is going to talk about that. But I know here in Michigan was 154,000 votes. The Republican State Senate actually did a thorough investigation and came to the conclusion that there were maybe two people that were deceased that might have voted, but they couldn't tell for sure. You know, the former president talks about more people voting in Detroit than actually live there. No, that was never the case that's there. I mean, it's just, they didn't send ballots. The president talked about sending ballots to everybody. No, they didn't do that. You send applications to fill out to then for the individual to return to their county or city clerk, but they didn't, no one ever sent a ballot to them. It's not part of the process here at all. And they actually got...”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Next day, that he had done everything in his words totally appropriate, and I said that's not true. That's just not the case. And now is this january sixth commission is, and I don't know anything other than what everybody else does because I'm not on the commission. I didn't want to be got asked. I said, not on my bucket list, but, you know, they've not shared with us what they're doing with the hearings until we actually see it. But it's pretty clear that there was a conspiracy that was brewing, trying to overturn this election. And, you know, did the president do everything totally appropriate? Absolutely not.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was like shaking my head. So it was really not a surprise what was happening when you saw, and I didn't, you know, I've never really heard of the Proud Boys before this group that came up. And then literally right below my balcony is where I don't know that they said National Guard, but the state troopers, I saw the state trooper bus come up. They closed Independence Avenue, which is right below me. I mean, it was you could hear the noise. You could get, you know, you heard the flashbangs. I mean, all the different things. I've got a Capitol Hill police officer from Benton Harbor that I spent some time with after the fact who actually rushed in to try and help. He was on the Senate side. You know, I watched the video, some of the body cams of some of the officers that were there way before they were made public. To your question, what really turned me, the president said literally.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“A lot of people worked on the hill. My chief of staff, she works on the hill. She lives on the hill, and my ledge director. I mean, they usually walk to work. In security, they just said stay away. So I was there and I watched the group no leaves on the trees. And I watched the president give his remarks.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Of what was happening. I did. And so I had the doors open, and I watched the folks go down the mall to see hear the president that morning. And I'm the only one there at the office.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think there was a little bit, but nobody thought. I don't think anybody thought it was going to be like that. I mean, I went to the capital earlier that morning. I got my COVID test. I tested like almost every week. And I walked through the house chamber. And then I went back to the office. And I have a lengthy balcony that looks to the mall. It's on the west side.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Know, and because of COVID, I mean, traditionally, you know, this is when you count the ballots, the electoral votes, they bring them in in these nice little cases and they, you know, anyway, the speaker said she didn't want people all on the floor to be close to each other. We've had, actually had a number of colleagues pass away with COVID. So I said, well, I'm going to let the freshman and the others, I can watch this from my office. Our office was closed down, I guess, because of threats. They didn't want a lot of people there.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, the real deciding mark for me for impeachment, I was one of the 10 Republicans that voted for it this back in 2021. Of course, I was there on January 6th. I was in the capital earlier that.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, he asked Ukraine to do some things. He didn't actually get them. And I didn't think that that actually merited a felony in terms of what he did. A bunch of us talked about it. We all sort of came to the same conclusion.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think we're going to drag on. I think we're going to get a deal. I think that the Senate agreed in principle more than 60. I think that we can see something happen literally within the next hopefully the next day or two and get it passed before the end of the week and then have the House do it immediately after the 4th of July when we come back.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They're against it. Of course, for them right now, this is a major money making deal. They are, you know, go to their website. And this is a direct assault on the Second Amendment. Send money now. I mean, this is a group that filed for bankruptcy a few years ago. They're going to be very solvent when this thing is done.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Mike Pents had it too as governor. And so what the red flag law does is it provides incentives, not a mandate. Don't expect Texas to do this. But it says that if law enforcement officials or mental health officials believe that someone is in danger to themselves or to others, they can withdue process take those weapons away until it's resolved.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Weapons of war and guns. So the background checks are really important. And I was after Parkland. You know, I served on the education committee and I met with the kids from the Columbine. I met with the kids from Parkland and their parents. I met with the parents from Sandy Hook. We almost had a Sandy Hook here in our district in a little town called Pawpaw a few years ago. Just by luck, we escaped from anything serious happening. But that red flag law, which I think almost two dozen states have now, came Rick Scott, Republican governor of Florida, signed it into law. And when he signed it into law, he said something along the lines of if the federal government doesn't do it, damn it, the state of Florida is. Governor Mike”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Something that frankly now we member of Congress have. I mean, if there's anything that happens on Capitol Hill in terms of security, we now get something on our telephone telling us that. Why shouldn't the American public have that as well?”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But she knew that panic was all over the place. And I didn't know what a bump stock was then. And this is, of course, a device that you can put on a semi-automatic and it makes it an automatic weapon. You're not going to be target shooting with something that sprays bullets all over the place. Which is another reason why I am going to be pushing with legislation with David Cicillini this week on having an alert system on our cell phones. I can remember when we had two Capitol Hill police officers that were killed in the nineties and had that guy just waited at the bottom of the stairs of the house steps, he could have gotten all of us rush into the airport after the last vote instead of he went in to try and get Tom Delay in his office. But what this bill this week is going to do is we'll send an alert if there's an active shooter.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The man was part of that as well. And of course, that then expired. It was never brought back. What I think we passed pretty comprehensive bill in the House now a few weeks ago, and I supported that. We had individual amendments on all the titles. So as an example, we had an amendment to ban bump stocks. I voted yes to ban it, to keep it in there. And of course, I actually have, I know someone that was in that Vegas shooting back when I think 58 people were killed. Yeah.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, for guns, I was one of the, I don't know, 20-some Republicans that voted for background checks back in the early 90s. Frankly, they're the same what we have here in Michigan. And I went to my sheriff department early on to see what exactly is the standard. I showed them my driver's license. They did a background check. I'm clean. I can buy a gun for the next three days or whatever. You know, when I voted for that, I had police protection and parades because of the threats that came our way. You know, I voted for the 94 crime bill, which was a tough vote back then, but it had a number of provisions.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We're making progress on that. I think that was a while ago, but I thought we ought to have incentives to do that. And here in Michigan, we've actually done it.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, but I oppose Trump pulling out of that. I think it was one of maybe, I don't know, eight or ten folks, Republicans that did that. But I also know that I've been a strong supporter of nuclear, and we just lost a nuclear plant here, just went offline and will stay offline for good. Of course, they have no emissions. I supported methane reductions that President Biden signed into law a year ago on the oil and gas industry. The big guys all said they could do it. Well, let's let them do that in terms of reducing emissions from methane. And major reductions in coal here in Michigan, we're not going to have any coal plants operating probably in the next six or seven years. And natural gas has been a very important player in terms of reducing emissions, particularly versus coal.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, no, it is. It is. Well, a couple things. First of all, and I opposed Trump pulling out of the Paris Accords. And remember, those were goals to actually reduce emissions. They weren't mandates, some weaknesses for sure in the China and India”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I ran. There were four people that were competing for chairman of energy and commerce back in 2010, and it was a pretty big knockdown fight. I mean, Rush Limbaugh was going after me day in and day out. I mean, it was just really nasty stuff. Boehner at the end was supportive of me and that helped me get to that spot. But I didn't cut any deal. I mean, on the energy side, I didn't have any pressure.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He was a huge help. Wouldn't have happened without his assistance and really put us together in the same place on a lot of different places. Just interview.”
2022-06-23 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 495 — Rep. Fred Upton · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source