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Gabriel Weinberg

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first: 2019-05-14
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“They're making all the tools they can in that process. What I'm suggesting is people like Apple should be the opposite of that or Duck.go and enable citizens to do the best they can to avoid that kind of surveillance, either corporate or government.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, I don't think there's any stopping countries from doing that. They've done that from the beginning of time. And so they're going to have an incentive and desire to have espionage agencies. I don't think there's much possible to prohibit that.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You can basically go into a Special browser that kind of works like it did the movies where you know where it bounces off things before it gets to the other person. And so it makes like three hops into random places before it gets to the other side And so if both of us are using Tor to communicate, it's extremely difficult to break that. And as far as we can tell, Tor itself isn't really broken. There have been some exploits in the Tor browser, like using Flash. But things like the news organizations now to give anonymous tips to them, they use something called SecureDrop, which works over Tor. And it's worked decently well. And so that's what you need to do in the non-hardware world. Communicate, you can do that on any device.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think that would be ideal. I don't know how possible that world actually is because you have to manufacture the phones and things like that. But it's become harder and harder, like built into hardware. Things like that on the internet wise. The closest thing we have to that is Tor. You can basically go into”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, there's your other point about the key. If you enable a backdoor Some governments are requesting. It is really naive to think that that backdoor would only be accessed by that government who wants it. And that was one of Apple's major points is that if I build this backdoor for you, US, China's going to use it. And not only that, it's probably going to get leaked and all sorts of bad actors are going to have it. So like, for example, I don't know how familiar are they stuff, but the NSA made all sorts of hacking tools. Those eventually got leaked. And they're all floating around the internet now. Tools that the NSA made for themselves are now available to all sorts of other people. And so all this stuff has a tendency of coming out and being used and exploited if it exists. And that's Apple's point is like the only way to protect against that is to have no backdoor.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, I think we should restrict a lot more. I'm just saying that the general argument of that I need every last piece of information is not a good one in their own argument because they have more information than all the tools that they have exist are much better than they were 20 years ago. No, I think the metadata should be restricted too. I really think we should be able to communicate privately without anyone knowing. But the reality is of the current tools that is discoverable. Because when we send a message across each other to the internet, unless we're using even more sophisticated tools, it's figuratable that we talked.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So maybe you can't read the message, but you can probably figure out the metadata that we talked. All this information didn't exist in the past. And so if you look at the overall information law enforcement and government has to surveil people, even with end-to-end encryption existing, it's way higher than it was 10 years ago and way, way higher than it was 20 years ago before.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Encryption, which is kind of what you're talking about, like built into iMessage now. That was the Apple FBI case. I should be able to send you a text message and no one should be able to read it except the two of us. Now the counter-argument to that is, well, what if they're sending really bad things and stuff like that? I think that is a bit of a distracting argument for a couple reasons. One is there's actually more data about value online than ever before. There is also, you're putting out all sorts of data online. It's much easier to surveil you than it has ever been in the past. Like your phone setting out location information, which isn't necessarily encrypted. Even on the text that we send each other, there's a record that it went through the internet, at least.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Additionally, someone did another same time analysis and found that health-related terms also went down on Google. So people stopped searching as much for their own health symptoms and things like that. And the thought was now that they aware that governments or their data was generally being tracked. They're worried about it leaking either and coming back to haunt them, either from maybe insurance companies or other things. And so it went down. But that is just immediately harmful for people because they're not searching about their health information. Those are two minor examples, but when you get into things like China and stuff like that, you get into much more major ones and people are afraid to say anything bad about the government and things like that or have public discourse. So I think that you want a private space enabled to be able to communicate with people completely privately. And so I do think that end-to-end...”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Chilling effect is a big, big one, which is people change their behavior once they feel that they're being watched or they don't have privacy. There's all sorts of good examples of this. To give you, to really back to search, right after Snowden, there were two studies that were really interesting. One is people stopped searching terrorism-related terms because presumably they feel that they might have been investigated if they searched. So terms like Al-Qaeda and stuff like that went down. Wikipedia also saw lower amounts of their articles being looked at.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's not currently the case on email But yeah, I think so. I mean, this gets into You don't want to tell other countries how to run their government, so maybe it's too. You know, maybe it's crossing some line, but at least in the US, the idea has always been like you have a private thought space. You should have private space. Your home is your home. And without kind of really good cause, no one should invade that privacy. I think if you start invading privacy in that way, it leads to all sorts of bad effects.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so there's a lot of nuances in here, but I'm of the view that privacy is kind of two fundamental principles, right? Privacy is a fundamental right. So you have a right to have kind of private communications. In the past, that was you could write a letter, you could kind of write things down on paper. Now it's in your phone. I still think you have that, should have that fundamental right.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly. I mean, for you in particular, there's a good Darren Fireball and John Gruber. He sells his own ads directly. And I think if you have a niche audience like you do, you might actually make more money if you start selling them.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I think it went up probably because I don't know the whole story, but my guess is their first party ads now. They're selling it themselves.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Just using your search history in addition. Target as a you on YouTube and Gmail and the rest of the internet, but they don't really have to for the search ads where they make most of their money. It's still all contextual.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And my argument is basically we've been up this feedback loop of trying to improve behavioral advertising over the last 10 years, but no one's been doing that for contextual advertising. If we have been doing it for contextual advertising, it might be just as good right now. And in fact, there are some decent experiments of that that have just come out. After GDPR in Europe, the New York Times decided to ditch all the behavioral advertising and put up contextual advertising only. And they increased revenue. This is like one of the first data points out of this. And so I think this actually has legs in that you could return to a world of contextual advertising. And that's all DuckDo does. And if you think about it, that's really still what Google does most of the time on Google search because all the search ads are still bit on keywords.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Or an ad based on the video you're watching, the content of the video, nothing to do with you. And so that contextual advertising doesn't have all these privacy problems of manipulation and filter bubble and all these things.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's hard to see a mainstream provider go paid on it because there's so much friction going from free to paid. That said, just to be clear, then the question is like, how do we make money? There are advertising in and of itself, this is a good thing to say, is not bad. We make this distinction, this is what else said in the Senate, between contextual advertising and behavioral advertising. So contextual advertising is just advertising based on a context of the page. So like you search for something on DuckTo, you search for car, you get a car ad. I don't have to know anything about you to serve that ad. That's different than the ads that follow you around based on all of your history. That contextual advertising used to be the way the internet worked and it could go back to that. And if you imagine like you're on New York Times again, you look at an article, it's an ad just based on that article.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so, yeah, so I could see some markets, the direct answer question is some markets definitely that already have a precedence of pain pay a little extra for more privacy. That works fine. On a market that is already free.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But some decent portion was because of using that free product. So one answer is you're already paying. The second answer is for something like Google, if we charge for our search engine, I just think a lot less people would use, there would be some people who would pay for it. And maybe we'd make the same amount of money, but we just expose less people to it because it is a big friction to take how your credit card, free versus not free.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Because Exactly. And so I think there's two components there. One, he wasn't being exposed to all the ads. Two, some of the ads are just purely manipulative. I mean, if you think about AB testing and it's hard to know where this line is, but they're manipulative in two ways. One, advertisers target, hyper-target. So they find the exact group that is willing to buy this thing, whatever it is. And two, they test different messages over and over and over again, different images until they find what is the exact emotional trigger, all these different influence mental models, if you will. Of things that will actually get you to buy. So, some of those things he maybe didn't buy because he just didn't see the ad. He did pay for that. He was paying for that. Didn't sign his credit card up to them.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And in effect, it does because there was real interesting story the other day in the New York Times about one of the reporters quit Facebook for five months or has quit four or five months. And they're kind of recounting their stories for doing so. And one of the things that happened is he started spending 50% less.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So there's kind of two ways to look at this. And so in the Apple case, yes, I think people are paying for additional services that are private. In search, you're already paying for it in Google already because you're paying with your data”
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“But let's suppose it's equal. And at that point, it's somewhat a no brainer, at least for this group, you get to switch, you get to reduce your digital footprint, and you still get all the tools and good search results.”
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“But they're actually trying exactly. And Apple recognizes this. And I think they also view it on principle that kind of like we do, that privacy is a fundamental right and people deserve it, therefore. And if there's no alternative, then people have no choice. And that's kind of what I was getting at. And so people had wanted to take action. There just was no action for them to take. Right, if you have two options, and both of them are bad, you still have to pick one. People want a smartphone. But now that Apple say offering a smartphone that has privacy, those group of people can now choose Apple's smartphone or they can choose to go as a search engine. I think that people need actual tools that work. So if our search engine was terrible, they're not willing to have too much sacrifice.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's a whole other interesting thing. Is another people think as like, oh, young people don't care about privacy and old people care or vice versa. And we didn't find that to be the case either. It's like across all demographics, a decently similar percentage has been taking action. I don't know what exactly threads them. It's not education. It's not income. It's not age. It's not political affiliation. None of the main factors that we get on like the general survey stuff spiked. But we consistently see this growing percentage of people trying to take at least actual action. Some of the actions they take, they don't realize actually don't help them. But they did try to take an action.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Third of a subset. No, third of all people, our polls are in America, but we think it's related similarly to other major developed countries.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, I do. I think that in general, so people have had this misnomer that people say they care about privacy, but they don't really care or they won't do anything. We've been running our own kind of research data on this for years now, really trying to dig into what people are actually willing to do and what people do. And there's kind of two realities in there. One is as awareness has increased, people's willingness and interest in doing something has greatly increased. And we've seen about a third of people take some actual significant action to reduce their digital footprint online in some shape or form.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Also, if you clean up one, it won't necessarily clean up the other. Because say you regulated privacy, data monopoly piece, they're already so big that they can still use their weight to do other. Monopolistic practices, which would be bad for competition outside of the data monopoly piece. So you need someone else looking at those competitive issues.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Funny because I think that there are, I think this is where it gets complicated. I think there are actually different issues. So I think you have to do something about the data monopoly, but independent of that, some of the companies have had bad practices within their core markets, right? Like we've had some trouble competing in search just because of search issues that are specific to search and nothing to do with the data monopoly. And Europe has come out and find, say, Google a bunch of times related to those practices. So I view them as independent. And generally, they've been independent agencies pursuing them in the government. The government has, the reality is these companies are huge. They do a lot of different things. And so the government, different government agencies need to be kind of on top of it.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly, kind of a Chinese wall situation. That's kind of a weaker argument, which I think would work, of the got to break them up kind of argument and spin off some of these different business units. And then there are other things that you can do too. But if fundamentally you don't kind of break up these data monopolies in some way, then I don't think there's, I think it has reduced competition and there's no easy way for other people to compete.”
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“And so they're locking up all the growth in the industry. And that's what's putting out a business, things like media companies, as well as small business ad tech players and other advertisers. No one can really compete with it. So yes, I think if that has a inherent network effect in it because they're getting all the data and all the eyeballs and it just is a feedback loop that is getting more and more. And so unless the government breaks that feedback loop, I don't see another way out of it. What I suggested to the Senate was a few things. One is so they're collecting all this data from different kind of business lines like Facebook bought Instagram. They bought WhatsApp. Google runs Google Analytics. They run double click. They run a bunch of other things. The government in Germany is starting to do this already can prohibit them from sharing data across their business units.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so you're asking a separate question. So, independent of data privacy legislation, which gives individuals rights over their data, there's a whole antitrust. I actually recently testified in front of the US Senate on this notion about general privacy legislation, but my message was exactly what you're saying, is that in the world, there's a duopoly in digital advertising, and it's Google and Facebook owns basically all digital advertising on the web, which relates to all these data profiles. And the more data they have, the better advertising they have, the more targeting they can do. Right.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“By people unless the government stops it. And it's an externality in general. It has a lot of data breach is a good example. All these companies are collecting information about you. They generally have terrible security practices. Equifax, et cetera, et cetera. And eventually they get hacked. All the data gets out there. Tons of people have identity theft and they didn't really pay to protect the data. It's an externality for everybody. And so the government definitely has a role to clean all this up.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So then California, in the US, there hasn't been a general privacy regulation ever. There's some specific ones like there's HIPAA for medical data and there's stuff for financial data, but there's nothing like general like that. So California through a ballot initiative last year passed the first one, which goes into effect in 2020. And that setup clock for the federal government to either make their own and preempt California or have to deal with California's law. And so that's kicked off this process, which is happening right now over the next nine months before that law goes into effect to think about what federal privacy legislation should look like. And I think, to answer your question, that, yeah, I think the government needs to play a role here because, I mean, my general proposition I've stayed for years is if the data can be collected and if it can be used to make profits, it's going to be used for that.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We're having kind of a moment now in the US at least after, so what happened is Europe kind of took the lead on this and they made something called GDPR, the general data protection regulation, which is actually a restatement something else they made in 1995. They've been kind of advanced at this for decades. But they're really putting in some rights and saying privacy is a fundamental right that should extend to online and you should have the right to know what companies are tracking you and know what information they're collecting you and have a right to opt out of them sharing it, among other things. It's a long regulation.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's the key thing you're getting at is you put it on for your purposes. But it can be used for everybody. That's the real problem. If these companies are just a service provider for you”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so on the all these sites that are lurking behind web pages, right, if you go and look and analyze which companies are there, Google's on about 80% of the top million sites. And a lot of that's Google Analytics, but also the Google ads and stuff like that. Facebook's on 25%. And that's this Facebook pixel where it could be the Facebook login or just sites run Facebook ads or they want to just track what audience and then serve ads on Facebook. And so Facebook and Google are the biggest trackers.”
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“Probably not, but it's like a necessary but not sufficient condition. If you don't have any, you're definitely not going to start engage with the other side”
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“Say that again. I mean, I think that's generally the danger that I see coming is the correlation causation piece is hard here, but polarization has just increased, at least in the US, and it's relatively correlated with all of this social media and tracking. And so the thought is, at least they're interrelated in the sense that people are just in their own bubbles, you know, and they're not really seeing these opposing viewpoints.”
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“Exactly, or do they? You should opt into something like that, right? And so there are some notions like that, but I don't think it should be personalized in the way it is without you opting into it.”
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“Yeah. So on DuckDuckGo, we don't have a filter bubble. And so if you search for the same topic at somebody else at the same time, you'll get the same results. I think that things can be made opt-in. So like we have a region setting where you can say, I want more Canadian results if you want”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Are justifiably really upset about are things like data breaches, which relate to identity theft. And so people would just like to reduce their digital footprint online, kind of block all this extraneous information that's getting out there about them. And that's kind of what we allow them to do.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, and so there's a few kind of negative effects to that. One is all the creepy ads that follow you around is one that people notice. Second one, the one that you just mentioned is called the filter bubble. So when you're on search results, say on Google or the same thing happens on Facebook news feed or even things like Netflix and whatnot, they're using your search history or your profile information or your browsing history to show you certain things they think you're going to click on. But by doing that, they have to hide things that they don't think you're going to click on. And that can end up being opposing viewpoints. And if we've done several studies on political terms and people in different areas are seen completely different results when you search for things like gun control or political candidate name or something like that. And effectively, especially in search engines, your expectation is you're seeing the results, but you're not getting the results. And it effectively biases you when you're doing research. That's one harm. The other harms of people.”
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“Tracker is so you go to say a random site, say the New York Times or something, you expect to interact with the New York Times. But in reality, there are about like 30 other companies sitting on that page that the New York Times embedded into it. Now, some of them are for analytics, like who's looking at this page. Some of them are for advertising. Like they run Google ads on their page. Some of them are to help them run their site. But the privacy policy of these companies are generally, they can use your data for whatever they want. And so they may help the New York Times, an X, Y, or Z purpose, but then they're aggregating all that information into big profiles that they can go sell. Ultimately, this comes in large profiles about you that are being bought and sold kind of in the”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Government surveillance, right? So it's like, is the government spying on you, which is now becoming more and increasing thing. China's doing some crazy things. But in the intervening years, corporate surveillance has really spiked, and they're actually related because government surveillance actually uses the data you give to corporations. That's where they get in most of the data from anyway. And so they're linked. But corporate surveillance, namely like corporations tracking you all over the web and building big profiles about you, has additional harms.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, sure. So, DuckTechGo is a search engine that doesn't track you. So it's an alternative to Google. And then in the last couple years, we've expanded, and now we offer a suite of privacy tools. We call, it's one download. It's called Privacy Essentials, or Privacy Browser. And it includes private search, tracker blocking. So it blocks Google and Facebook trackers across the web, and encryption, which helps stop your ISP from snooping on you. But in any case, it wasn't even though privacy was a main thing for our search engine, it wasn't the main attractor to it until 2013 when the Snowden revelations happened. And then that was all about.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, there's so many aspects of privacy and harms. And I think it's interesting. Awareness has really started to increase over the last two years. But it's all over the map in terms of what people really care about. So in 2013, when our company started to take off, that was a Snowden revelations”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So that's what we were trying to do, but this whole portal and system for lesson plans and things like that. So that ultimately didn't go anywhere. Second company was a really early, effectively social networking company that we eventually sold to classmates.com. It was kind of the almost antithesis of Facebook and the privacy practices. Like we had a paid business model. We didn't collect much information. It was mainly about getting in touch with old friends. But we also just got destroyed by Facebook. And so eventually sold it and then moved on to current company, which is duck.go.go.go.go.”
2019-05-14 · The Knowledge Project with Shane Parrish · Gabriel Weinberg: Practical Steps to Safeguard Your Data and Identity Online · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So that company, the first company I started was a social educational software company right out of school. The idea was to help use the internet to increase student achievement by increasing parental involvement. Good in theory, 15 years too early. That stuff's still just happening now. I know you have kids and it's still hard to get what they're getting in school. Oh, shit.”
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