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“I'm centre forward. Yeah, centre forward all my life. And, you know, people say lefties and all this I'm not particularly a lefty I'm not I'm certainly not from the right and I think I probably drift from center to left a little bit centre”
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“I won't get involved. I've never said who I vote for ever. I voted for lots of different parties at different points, for different reasons. I'm kind of your archetypal floating voter, to be honest. I'm not kind of driving in that sense.”
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“It's a rugby playing school. So he said, Right, we'll move back into the city. We were in that house for one year. And for six months, I went to live with my grandparents because they lived in the city so that I could go to the school that plays football”
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“Tell you how I know. Let me tell you how I know because it's a crazy story, really, because I lived in a place called Bronston, or next to it in Brownie Fields until I was 10. And then we moved, but I'd just taken the 11 plus. I passed the 11 plus, but we moved into the county. We're slightly out Kirby Muxloe. So there was only one choice of school for me to go to under those circumstances in the county, but it was a non football playing school. My dad said, I cannot do that to you.”
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“That's the thing. I'm really interested in politics. This is one of my favorites. This is my favorite podcast. It all goes back to the school, you see the same”
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“Because you've sought lots of times. I have three rules. One, I don't tweet when I've had a drink. I don't tweet when I'm angry, but I'm very, very rarely angry anyway. And the third one is every tweet that I do, I read it to myself back. And if I have 1% doubt, I don't send it. Happens quite a lot, and sometimes they're really good jokes and annoys me, or I think they're really good jokes, no one else does.”
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“Basic issue of impossibility. It's really difficult. I think for me, what they have to think about first and foremost before you talk about anybody else's impartiality, the government of the day, whoever that is, whether it's Tory or Labour, cannot decide who the chairman of the BBC is or have any kind of influence on who they put in to be director of news or anything else. That for me is where it needs to start. So otherwise, it's really difficult.”
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“If it's news and current affairs, I think that's, and they're a member of staff at the BBC. If you're a freelance guy that like me that works on football,”
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“Then Alex Scott and then Jermaine Junus and Micah and then all the commentators and then the match reporters and then even the footballers said they weren't going to do any. And it was like... My goodness, this is kind of not doing it. I think they're doing it more for the cause, but they actually, you know, to get that kind of. Team spirit that kind of camaraderie and togetherness. I mean, it just moved me. It was just, it was just, it was beautiful.”
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“When it first happened, said, why is this an issue if they do anything? I'm not going on. And it's one thing saying that in a moment, but then actually to carry that through, they didn't need to do that.”
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“My teammates, it was funny. I was in a restaurant in the back of the car firstly when Ian Wright pulled out of the show. And then when Alan did as well, Alan Shea, I must admit, I did. how to”
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“Yeah, that would be silly. He shouldn't have been. And I'm a massive, you know, I love the BBC. I've been there for nearly 30 years. But people make mistakes, but they recognize that and they addressed it. And in the end, thankfully, we're all back to work.”
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“Something like this happens, and I totally sympathize with that because these things happen all the time. And even to people that write the pieces, sometimes the headline, it's a totally different thing to watch the story of the Time itself. But it's like, but people only see the headline. And that's all they see in the supermarkets when they go and see all the papers. Oh, look at that blimey.”
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“Think what happened here is because of the daily mail front page, which was nothing like what I've said. He was saying we're, you know, comparing our policy to that of the Nazis. That was not the case. It was not the case. I was just talking about some of the language. You know, would I do it differently now? Probably after the flora of this course, but I stick by those words and I think it's true and factual. So I don't think that impartiality. Comes into it”
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“To flee somewhere at least show some empathy, some kind words, even if we obviously can't have everyone here. We all know that. I like your idea. I've heard many times on here where it's, you know, towns have a percentage. And we could do that. We could just have our fair share.”
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“And that could lead to something it might not lead to something. But I've been an advocate of, you know, I've done a lot with charities and stuff and with the refugee crisis for a long time. And it's kind of more. And when I went, when I met Tim Davey when he first brought in his guidelines things, we had a discussion. And I said to Tim, there are two things that I will continue to talk up on. I will not back down on. And he agreed. One of them was about the refugee crisis, and the other one was about climate change. So for me, I put this in that category. Now, obviously, all these things will be linked to politics. Pretty much everything is. It's like when people say sporting politics shouldn't mix. They always mix. They can't not do. So all my argument here was that let's have some empathy towards these poor people that are forced to flee, persecution, and war. Do you think if it happened here, for example, if we suddenly for some inexplicable reason, we were attacked and we had...”
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“That was kind of my first thing. Hang on a minute, hang on, this is, you know, I've not been abusive to anyone. I've not said anything particularly controversial. I think it was factual. I'm not saying at all that policies echo those of Germany or anything like that, but sometimes, which I said sometimes, some of the language is not dissimilar. Use the words like invasion and swarms and criminals and rapists and all these things.”
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“Linking me to the Nazis. And I just went, oh thank God for that. That's all it is. That's all it is. I don't mind that. It didn't bother me. I was okay. And it just kind of just spiraled kind of sillily out of control.”
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“But I began to get it noticed, but I went to bed. I didn't know what was going on. And I woke up the following morning. And you know, like when you wake up, I don't look at my phone until I've had a coffee because I don't function until I've had a coffee in the morning. So I came down the kitchen and I had my drinking my coffee. I put my phone on. You know, like in the morning, I don't know about you, but I get five WhatsApp messages. Or sometimes if the boys are chatting amongst themselves in our group chatting, it might go up to 20, 30 maybe. So I wake up in the morning, looked at my phone, it's got 237, what's that message? I've gone, oh my God, what's happened? And I really worried thoughts for a few seconds. I thought, because I couldn't think of what it could possibly be. And I thought it's either some kind of scandal or something happened to one of my kids. I remember and I opened it. And the first message I saw was somebody showing me the daily mails front page, which obviously caused all this Ferrari.”
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“You're getting in a debate with someone on Twitter. You're basically facing what I never do either. But I only saw it because someone else that I follow replied to it. So therefore I saw it. And I for some reason I responded.”
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“Well, there was the policy, which I kind of, when they spelled it out, I thought, oh, you can send people to a country perhaps where they don't want to go. That seems. And I thought, I don't think this is going to work. Is it even going to be legal? Obviously, we all recognize a massive problem. You know, it's going to get worse as well with climate change and stuff like that. People fleeing their countries. And I just thought, come on, you know, and then somebody replied it was quite aggressive response. And all I did was reply to them. And at the end of it, I added the line. It's, you know, some of the language used is not dissimilar to that used in the early 30s in Germany, which was never meant as any kind of comparison with the Holocaust or anything like that.”
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“And he used to have this show that went out on a Saturday night just before match of the day, before the news, then we used to watch it because that's that period when I wasn't in kind of spare time. And I used to watch him do the show. He'd do all these mannerisms for, you know, this and the little kind of half swallow. And I used to go on the show and then I... The thing that Alistair McGowan just did, I just actually did it. And I got so conscious that I stopped watching his show before it was on. Because it was putting me off.”
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“I was getting these big ears for a reason. I can listen. I can listen and talk. But it took me eight. The first two years when I started presenting. I did football focus and I used to drive home at lunchtime on a Saturday after the show and so many times I thought I'm never going to be able to do this but it wasn't quite bad enough for them to get rid of me and then I became comfortable in the environment and I knew how it worked and I knew how to look at a camera and I knew how to deliver a thing.”
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“Well, you are, but you don't really have to, this is not live, for example. So you don't, you've not got to hit the end of the show and hit account now. You've got to get into the next link whenever that is. So you've got to go from chat to actually then doing a link into like a feature or a link into the match. And all the time you've got hits talking your talking in your ear constant, not constantly, but sometimes, but you're hearing, I like OpenTalkback because I like to know what's going on everywhere. Some people just have Switch. The difference is switch is just the information you need to hear, but OpenTalkbat means everything. So I hear them talking to the camera. I hear them talking to, and I like that.”
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“I said I was kind of born to be in the box, not on the box. You know, I'd done a lot of, I did ponderry for a start, which wasn't that difficult. I'll just give my opinion when asked a question. Presenting a show is a whole different ballgame.”
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“You're older than me. So I used to do that. And then. They used to call me junior dez in the England team, like after Des Lion and maybe because I was starting to show a bit of a few grays, but I was interested. I used to sit with the journalists when they were writing them actually reports to see how they did it. I used to sit by radio. They were presenters of their sports cricket, tennis. And I thought, well, football's not really got that. Jimmy Hill did it occasionally. And Bob Wilson did it. So I thought if I can crack the presenting side, it might give me some kind of longevity in the business. But it was hard at the start.”
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“Loads of players, and obviously, you know, it's really, I've been, I've been lucky I found something else I could do. But there are so many jobs in television. There are only so many managerial coaching roles. And after that, so many players have a difficult time. You know, they're earning so much now if the top ones, if they're sensible enough, that might be okay. But you know what it's like, the more you earn, the more you spend generally. So I don't know crazy statistic about footballers getting divorced”
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“Yeah, I just really interesting conversation with Michael Owen about the feeling of scoring a great goal. And he trains horses. And I said to him, is that, is he? Is it the same when your horse wins? He went, it's still not the same. There's nothing that compares with scoring a big goal in a big game.”
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“Well, you can't play any longer, and it's his second best because it's second best. But what else can there's nothing that you can do that would be on the same level?”
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“That was the big bonus for us. And that's purely selfish thing because you could actually normally we'd park ourselves in a studio, say Russia, for example, in the middle of Red Square and have a nice view, but never sit, but watch a football match on the telly. Whereas there, we actually went to every game that we covered. And that was a massive, that was a massive bonus. The crowds, it was a little bit surreal. It wasn't kind of a normal football crowd, but there were... Positives to that as well, but there's no trouble, very diverse, lots of people I met from countries in Asia and various other spots and North Africa particularly. So, you know, there were pros.”
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“There were pros and cons to it, I felt. It didn't really surprise me. I knew the football would be good because football always is in a World Cup. And some of the games were fantastic. The stadiums were beautiful as you'd expect when you've spent $200 billion. But it was kind of strange. There was no kind of social, you know, there were a few restaurants that were kind of pop-ups, really, and they were all in a line in the same place. You know, the usual suspects.”
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“Not that I would because she'd get hammered home, but it was that good. And I just thought, oh my God, how did I just seen?”
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“I didn't see the undergone, I couldn't see it. When he did or the second goal, though, I honestly felt like I ought to applaud.”
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“But it wouldn't cross my mind. Otherwise, I might punch the one in with five minutes to go near the end for the equalizer. But it's not something that you would ever think about doing. But there's no question in my mind. He must have done that once or twice before. Oh, yeah. It was so, but then, of course, after that, he scores the greatest call of all time.”
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“One or two of my teammates do, Pete Shilton, Terry Butcher, they'll never forgive him. They say it to this day, I was different. He just did something, got away with it. It had been one of ours. We'd have been”
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“His life was completely nuts everywhere again. There was huge entourages of people bowing. He was, I spent three days in Buenos Aires. And it was nuts. I just think no wonder he's mad. No wonder he's got that other side to him. And you can see it.”
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“It's very similar to when I watch Messi. They do things that, you know, I played obviously high level and there are players way better than me, you know, like loats, unbelievable gazzer and people with that kind of talent and Ziko and Platini and all these wonderfully wonderful players. But then above them, Sidan, all these people. But above them, you've got Messi and Maradonna who play a game that the rest of us are not familiar. They see things almost as though they're above themselves watching down on themselves. And they could get out of any situation. They could beat people. They manipulate the ball like they were using the hand and that's not meant as a pun for the hand of God. I did two documentaries. I did one where I was in his company for three days. It was the most extraordinary three days imaginable.”
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“It's too late for us now. I think it's too late for that. But I do admire the German model, and they kept their prices down, their ticketing, which I think we should do anyway. I mean, we get so much money from television and TV rights. You know, the important thing is to keep the grounds full because the product even on television is nothing like as good if you don't.”
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“Over about 3 30, I think it was something like that, which was felt like an enormous amount of money at the time. It is. Obviously, it is. And was. But the chart since the Premier League started has just gone, whoa, the graph has gone, escalated rapidly. And good luck to them. I mean, it's what it is. And, you know, you can't really control it because the best players will be sought after. You end up with, it's almost like an auction.”
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“No, I was fine. I'm fine. Obviously, I've done really well. What I would have known, but I would imagine there are a lot of players in my generation who'd wish they'd been born. 15, 20 years later.”
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“People on radio callings, and they lambast players. He's useless, he's rubbish, and I always think, you have no idea how good you have to be just to be a professional. You can see it in sports like golf, and I'm quite envious because we all know you can compare yourself to the same course. You can see hit the same shots. Whereas in football, you tend to end up just playing at the level you play at. And one thing I always say to people and parents are the ones that are really critical of professional football, as I said, hang on a minute, can you remember someone at school that used to think he was unbelievable? But he never quite made it. And I go, that's how hard it is. Remember that when you lambast these professional players, they are way better than you think. Even the Burnley ones”
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“I think with my children, I think it's important to know that they're very fortunate, they're in a good position. If he's not going to be a footballer, he'd kind of be probably all right in life because his dad's done okay. I think it's more for those that the dream is to get out of somewhere, out of poverty, out of what, and the reliance on the parents get keen. And they think they're going to go and then the disappointment happens. So I think for my boys, it was fine. I just conversations with them. I used to say to them, it's really, really difficult. Just play and enjoy it. That's all that matters. You'll reach your level. You'll reach the level that you got as long as you try hard, as long as you have fun. And you'll reach your level. And I would say that to any parent, don't get ahead of yourself. Don't get ahead of yourself. It's so hard, so competitive. And that's why people, when I hear fans and stuff talking or even, you know.”
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“Alternatives. I think he's right. They have changed a lot. The academies now do offer education well into late teens for young footballers. So even if you go and you think you've got a chance, they carry on the education within the academy. But, I mean, it's brutal. Nearly every young kid now, not just boys, but girls now as well, want to be professional footballers and there are so few spaces. I mean, one of my boys played at Chelsea's Academy for a few years. I used to go on there and look around the pitches. Every age group, there must have been hundreds and hundreds of kids there. And you know out of all those hundreds, couple might get to the top. Couple might get a lower league career somewhere and the rest won't. But they all think they're going to make it. So it's so hard.”
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“And the way they do, they post much interviews, how multilingual a lot of them are, particularly obviously the players from abroad when they come here. I'm proud of my sport and proud of the young footballers particularly.”
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“Captains getting together, raising money for the NHS with Marcus Rashford. He shouldn't have had to do what he did, but he did, and he did it wonderfully. It turned government policy. So, you know, with racism issues, likes of Raheem Sterling and many others, I think they've done themselves proud. And sometimes you forget how young they are.”
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“I sort of understand it though. With matters of massive interest, with fame, it's part of part of it. It didn't bother me that much. No, because I, you know, I was playing for England at the time. You know, I played in World Cups. I understand the public interest. And they were all kind. It wasn't like anyone was nasty. They were just doing their jobs. So I didn't mind that too much. The role model thing with young footballers, you know, some will choose to use it, some will choose not to. I think I've been really proud of some of our young footballers in recent years, over the pandemic with...”
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“It was incredible. I mean, a great answer the first night I went home. Michelle stayed with him. It was about three in the morning. I came home. I told the club. Terry Venables said, I'll come and pick you up in the morning and I'll take you to the hospital. He was brilliant. And when he did, he picked me up and I came out of my house and there must have been. It was like last week, a week or two ago. I was about 50 journalists out there and cameras and stuff. So somehow they'd, you know, things leak and they were outside the hospital every time I came out and every time I went in and every time I came out it was difficult. The response from the public was extraordinary. I used to get like a huge bin bag. I used to be full of letters every week. We come into the hospital and it took me two years to reply to them all. But I thought I should because it was so moving what they, you know, the amount of support that we had.”
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“Nothing, he was a small baby, nothing, but he's you know, he now does quite a lot for the Kimia charities and stuff like that.”
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“On our way to Great Ormond Street, and then we kind of been there for seven months, and two or three times they told us it's very unlikely to make it through the night, but somehow he did. And it was, you know, Michelle was there for seven months in a bed by his side. There was only one small bed. So I used to went home. I didn't play for about three weeks and then I went back to football training. And then I started playing, which was actually the best thing because it was the only time I could switch off from it. But he got into remission, he got the all clear. And then you go home and you just hope it doesn't come back.”
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“So it's the end of 1991 because it was just a few weeks later. So we went back to see the doctors and they said, well, it's come back as this skin condition we thought it might. So I thought, oh, that's what a relief. So I started to worry. And I said, well, just one thing. I said, I know you say that. I said, but also I said, in the last 10 days, he really seems to be unwell and he's been groaning and he's had way more of these things on his head. And they went, oh, really? And I went, yeah, his glans seem to be, so they took his outfit off, took his nappy off. And then I'll never forget it. They just looked at each other, the two of them, they went, I'm really sorry, this is something much more important than that, much more serious. And I went, what do you mean? They went, oh, we need to do blood tests. We need to check first, but this does look like leukemia. And that was a word that was like, I knew it was just some kind of blood cancer. I didn't know much about it. And it was like, oh, and within half an hour.”
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