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Geena Davis

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  1. Oh, I agree with you about that one. I was just blown away. And the evolution of female characters in the Marvel Universe has been just extraordinary. been fabulous. They're very, very conscious of that. And just went with, they didn't find a new male Black Panther, you know, and it was incredible the way they did that. I loved it.

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  2. So, things that happen on screen will happen in real life. In the entertainment industry, we can't wait for something to happen in real life and then we'll reflect that. We need to make it happen on screen and fiction. And then it will happen in real life. Images on screen are incredibly powerful toward encouraging people to want to be like the characters or respect characters that they see. And so we could absolutely change the world if we showed it on screen. So I'm very optimistic about it, it really does have the potential to really, really change things. Yeah.

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  3. Right. Well, it's funny because I always say I'm waiting for the work that I'm doing at the institute to benefit me. Right. Right.

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  4. It's always tough to find really incredible roles. I had an amazing run of really top roles and assumed that I was going to, that would continue to be the case. But it's just a fact that actresses over 50 data from my institute shows that they're only 5% of movie populations, unfortunately.

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  5. Zoe Kravis is first directing job, and she co wrote it. And Channing Tatum is the male lead character. And he's a very wealthy, successful businessman who takes a bunch of friends and some girls to his resort island. It's actually sort of a thriller. When I first heard the title and had read it, I was like, well, this is going to be some romp of sexy gals on an island or something, but it's not. But I get to play a really funny character. I'm his assistant. And I'm very spacey and clumsy. I'm always dropping things. And I fall in the pool and very strange behavior. And it's only later in the mystery part of it that we find out why.

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  6. Well, we've definitely seen tremendous improvement in 2019. We reached parity in the lead characters of family-rated films and in kids TV, children's shows. We reached parity in the lead characters in the next year, in 2020. It's definitely gotten much, much better.

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  7. Where there's one female character, like they thought if there's one important female character, you've covered women. So anyway, so then I realized this is utterly unconscious from the on-screen stuff. It's unconscious. They don't realize they're doing it. So if I got the data, because I'm in the industry, I could go directly to the creators and share it with them privately and say, look, I know you don't know this. But this is how few female characters there are. And they were horrified. They were stunned. They all immediately said, oh my God, what are we doing? Why wouldn't we do that? We want to be good for kids. What are we doing? And so the numbers started changing pretty fast.

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  8. Yes, yes, exactly. Well, there was this theory in Hollywood that men and boys won't watch women and girls, but women and girls will watch anything. So we don't have to worry about the female characters because they'll watch whatever it is. What I realized was I started asking people in my daily life in Hollywood whenever I had meetings with people. I'd say, have you ever noticed how few female characters there are in entertainments made for kids? And every single person said, oh no, no, that's not true anymore. That's been fixed. And they were very serious about it. They were like, here, we care about girls so much. We do everything we can to really. And like one person said, well, we made Shrek.

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  9. It was my two year old daughter. I sat down for the first time with her to show her a preschool show. And within five minutes or so, I'm thinking, how many female characters are in this? And I Google it and look it up. And it was wildly embarrassed, like profoundly, wildly imbalanced. And then I saw it in other movies for kids and videos and TV shows. And I thought, so we're training kids from minute one to have gender bias because we're showing worlds that are dominated by male characters and they have more to do and there's more of them.

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  10. Well, Me Too lives on. I mean, the ethos of Me Too definitely still lives on. And I think women are much more likely to feel entitled to talk about injustices that happen to them. And, you know, I don't know if you've ever saw it. Executive produced a documentary called This Changes Everything. And it's about exactly this stuff about the women's treatment in Hollywood. Chloe Grace Morat's talking about at 15 having the production put, what do you call breast pads in her trailer to wear when she's 15 years old? And so women came out in droves to talk about their experiences with that kind of stuff. Yeah. All right.

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  11. My agent and my manager came that day to take me to lunch, you know, fun yay, you're starting the movie, take me to lunch, and I didn't tell them. And I never told anybody until I wrote the book. And it's just a shame that I took on blame for that happening.

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  12. I was going to say, but it's still. Just talking about it actually still is very emotional for me because I felt so shamed, you know, for somebody who wants to do things right, you know, and I felt so ashamed that I didn't my, sorry.

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  13. And the point was it wasn't necessary. It wasn't like an urgent matter for me to go there. I learned that it wasn't. But he got the opportunity to really put me in my place and really shame me.

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  14. Coming out of his eyeballs and starts screaming at me and swearing at me, get the fuck out there. What the fuck are you doing? Move, move. And he got behind me and screamed in my ear, move, move faster, move it. And we're getting to this intersection where there's hundreds of people watching this, and he keeps it up and keeps it up until we say, stand there and points to a mark on the pavement and starts shooting. And I was literally like shaking. He elbowed me after a few takes and said, what's up with you? Come on, come on. It's all good.

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  15. Did nothing, no. And I looked to them hoping they would say, Come on, Bill, give it up or something, but they didn't. And I found out that it was because he, I had just won the Oscar and he had, uh, He had said he was told the others that he was very concerned about hiring me in case I thought I was all that in case I had a swelled head from that. And so that was his first test. And evidently I passed. And then the first day of shooting, we were shooting a huge scene out on an intersection in Manhattan with hundreds of extras and giant crew and all that stuff. And they asked, they said we're ready for you to come to set. And I said, well, costumes asked me to wait here one second. Can I do that or should I come with you? And he said, no, no, no. AD said, no, go ahead, wait here. And then seconds later, Bill Murray, in a full clown costume, by the way, slams into the trailer with, you know,

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  16. Maybe something like that. And no, what's that? Well, come try it. Come try it. No, no, no. I'm just laughing and trying to sit down. No, no, no, no. It's this. And he point, there's a giant massage device on the bed with big handles on it. And he says, lay down here. I want to try it on you. And I'm like, no, no, no, thank you. And he keeps at it. He keeps at it. And I keep saying no to the point where I would have had to scream at him. Stop fucking asking me. I am not doing it. Do you understand, which I was far too timid to do. So I perched on the corner of the bed and let him do. And he did it for like one second, like, and then didn't ask how I liked it or anything. It was just, and so I realized it was just to see if he could force me to do something inappropriate.

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  17. Right. So I went to meet with Bill Murray and his co-director and a producer in a hotel suite. And I came in and went to sit down with everybody sitting there. But Bill Murray popped up and said, hey, have you ever tried the thumper? And I'm like, what?

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  18. Oh, you know, that's the craziest thing because I talked to Kelly Corry a few years after the movie came out, and she said a friend of hers who was a writer had gone into a studio to pitch an idea for a movie. And it happened to have two female lead characters, but nothing else about it was anything like Thumba Louise. And they turned it down saying, there's already been Thalma and Louise. Oh, wow. not only We're not going to do any movies about women because there's been a movie about women. Yeah.

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  19. Well, it was really remarkable because it's powerful enough to be a part of a movie that becomes a cultural landmark, you know. It was like incredible. And then the very next movie to do the same thing with people coming up to me and saying, I play sports because of that movie or whatever. And also the press predicted about both of those movies that now everything was going to change. We're going to see so many movies starring women now. And that's a given. And I'm just thinking, all right, I can't wait to see all that happen. And it didn't. That was really a shocking wake-up.

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  20. Well, shooting the movie, I thought, you know, I have really come a long way. Badass, exactly. And then immediately found out that I wasn't when I started shooting League of their own. I fell into really ingrained old habits and all that. But now I was aware of doing it. Anytime I gave up my power, I was aware of doing it and worked on that.

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  21. No, exactly. It's a metaphor. But the Mui is about women who take control of their own lives and they retain it no matter what. They will be in charge of their lives no matter what, in other words, to the end rather than give it up and surrender their power back to somebody else, to society. And so I think that's what really spoke to people. Because at first I was like, wow, how is it that people come out of a movie where the lead characters off themselves going? We're so empowered, but that's why. That's why.

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  22. I think it's because, and it also has to do with the fact that they kill themselves at the end, that they drive off the cliff. Allegedly.

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  23. Oh, it completely holds up in my view. Susan and I have seen it together probably about every five years when it's the... 20th anniversary, 25th, 30th. So we just saw it for the 30th last summer. And to us, it really held up into the audience. It really did. And I mean, the fact that it's so important in people's minds 30 years later to say something about the story that just really, really speaks to me.

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  24. Yeah, so it was fast. It was so well written, that script, you know, she won every award there was for that script. And most of it was because about this friendship that was about women who loved each other and cared about each other and occasionally drove each other nuts, but the dynamic was kind of fortuitously for me that thelma idolizes Louise and looks up to her and also is able to be a flake and not responsible for herself because she knows Louise will pick up the slack and take care of her. And events of the film force that to change to the point where we actually for a moment switch roles where I take over and take care of her. And it's a beautiful dance between these characters.

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  25. Month long training camp in how to be like that because I took it upon myself to want to become like her and was so valuable to spend that time with her and learn who I wanted to be like, what I wanted to be like.

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  26. Right. Well, I had probably the good fortune to play characters who were tougher than I was in real life. And it was fun. It was really wonderful to try on those kinds of characters and be bold in ways that I wouldn't in my real life. And it was really meeting and working with Susan Sarandon that had the biggest impact on me. And that was because she was somebody like you, I think, who says what she thinks and knows what she thinks and is very comfortable in her body and moving through the world. And I had really, I realized later I'd never spent extended time with any woman who was like that, who just, you know, and not confrontationally or anything, but just simply said what she thought. And it was like a three month.

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  27. Is an incredibly dramatic role. You know, it was a horror movie, but we took the characters and their plate very seriously. And it was just remarkable to be able to have a big fat lead role like that and have such respect for the material and work with Kronenberg, who's a real auture, was incredible. And then Beetlejuice, yeah, was super fun. I read that script and then I had a meeting with Tim Burton and I said, I get this movie. Listen, I just get this movie. And he said later that he hired me because

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  28. No, I mean, I had no problem with that role. It's a small part, but she can't tell that much, she's kind of feisty, a fan asks her, what's going to happen next for my character? And I said, I don't know. I don't write this shit, you know. No, I had no problem with it.

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  29. Director, yeah, and Dustin decided he wanted to mentor me for the career he was sure that I would have. And also I made a rookie mistake by coming to the set every day. I didn't know that you were supposed to only come on the days when you were working. I thought everybody must come on it every day and nobody told me not to. So I learned so much from being on the set every day.

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  30. That was my first audition. I had studied acting in college and I knew that I wanted to be in movies, but I didn't know how to get into a movie. So I became a model because I thought maybe that would lead me into acting. And it led me to get an audition for this movie. And they said, my agent said, they want you to wear a bathing suit under your clothes because if you read well, they want to see you in a bathing suit. The role is going to call for being in your underwear sometimes. So I did. And then I went and read. And it was just with the casting assistant and a video camera. And she didn't ask to see me in my bathing suit. So I figured I put it completely out of my mind. I mean, what were the odds I was going to get cast in a movie with Dustin Hoffman, you know? But I ended up getting the part. And it was amazing. It was like the best introduction to business that I could possibly

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  31. My great uncle was driving and his wife was in the front, and it was at night we were driving home to their house. And he kept veering into the oncoming lane, like slowly drifting into the oncoming lane and then back. And nobody said anything. And thankfully, the road was very empty. But eventually a car started coming and there was nowhere, it was a very skinny road, nowhere for anybody to pull up over. Nobody said anything and we were going to have a head-on collision. And at the last second, my great aunt said, a little to the right, Jack, and he swerved just in time to avoid hitting the car. So I realized later my parents would have died rather than say anything that old Uncle Jack might take offense to and me. And let me die too. I would have screamed.

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  32. Well, I called it dying up politeness in a sort of humorous way because I almost did die of literally die from politeness when I was, I talk about it in the book, but when I was about eight years old, I was in the car with my parents and my driver.

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  33. Right. Well, I was sort of raised to be a person who has no needs, who has, you know, that I don't need anything from you. I don't cause anybody any problem or trouble or extra effort. And I go along with everything. I never say no. And, you know, that proved to be incredibly difficult as I grew up. I think the point partially was that everybody has to like you. And so whatever that takes, whatever sacrifices you have to make to make sure that everybody likes you. Yeah.

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  34. Congresswoman Haley Stevens and Abdul El Sayed, a progressive Democrat and a moderate Democrat. In the end, it all comes down to the dreaded E word. Electability. But in Michigan, one candidate is trying to turn the electability concept on its head. If we think that voters walk around asking, where do I sit on some theoretical left-right spectrum, then in theory, the bulk of the voters are somewhere in the middle. The problem, though, is that that model hasn't really accurately predicted our politics for a very long time. If Michiganders wanted moderate, why would they have elected Donald Trump twice? Dr. Abdul El-Sayed is making the progressive case for America first, and he's trying to settle the Democrats ideological battle in the process. This is about the many versus the money. I'm a Stead Herrington, and this is America actually. Catch us every Saturday on YouTube or wherever you get your podcast.

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  35. A civil war happening in the Democratic Party, and if there's one place that that's playing out most clearly, it's in Michigan. A crucial Senate primary battle in Michigan that

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