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George Raveling

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  1. As I was growing up, when I was nine, my dad died, and when I was 13, my mom had a nervous breakdown, and she was institutionalized the rest of her life. In those days, the economy was in poor shape. So you got rations from the government. You got like flour, sugar, milk, so forth. And so I come home one day and my mom stayed at the sink and she's got the water running and she's pouring this big bag of sugar into the sink and just letting the sugar go down. And so I grabbed it and turned it off. And I said, mom, what's going on? She was incoherent. So anyway, my mom ended up being institutionalized. So now here's George at 13 years old. And so, what do you do with George? He has no parental supervision. Dad's dead, mom's in a mental institution. She spent most of the rest of her life there.

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  2. Well, my grandma was basically, if I can borrow a religious concept, my grandmother was the Pope. Her word was infallible. And what was interesting, my grandma is a product of a Blackfoot Indian tribe. And on both sides, our family, we really are descendants of American Indian tribes, which I find interesting sometime because of it. I've gone through these connotations. When I was firstborn, which you'll find interesting, I was born in a segregated hospital in Washington, D.C., Garfield Hospital, and there are four floors for whites and one floor for blacks. So I came into the world in a segregated world.

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  3. Stories about segregation and the injustices that black people have faced most are our lives is those people who died so that we can enjoy the things that we enjoy in society today. So to me, Whenever I have any questions about the depth of commitment, I go back and I say to myself, do you feel so strong about this that you'd be willing to give your life with? Do you feel this strong about it that you would be risk getting fired? And over the years, especially when I was at Nike, sometimes I had a depth of belief and conviction that what I was suggesting was right and I was willing to fight right down to the end. And if it meant I got fired, then I got fired. But I never allowed the position or to threaten me to be less than what I should be as a person.

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  4. Sit-ins and doing the depth of segregation. And one was the night before they were going to sit at the lunch counters. And the person who was leading the demonstration as they were planning out it strategically at the end, he said to them, he said, I want everybody in the room to look around at each other and shake hands. Because tomorrow night when we have this meeting, some of you are not going to be here. And I thought to myself, oh my God, would I have the courage of commitment to know that if I were part of this demonstration tomorrow night I might get, I have to put my life on the line. I might not be back if I'm sitting in that room. I have to say to myself, are you willing to sacrifice your life for this cause? And to me, a lot of the untold...

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  5. A leader. He was a man for all seasons and all reasons in many ways. And so many times I reflect back on something that he said that when I'm in a tough spot and I think about giving up, you say to yourself, what kind of sacrifice is this going to be? And one thing I remember Dr. King saying is if a man or a woman hasn't found something in life that they're willing to die for, then perhaps they're not fit to live. And so he lived out that reality that he became so deeply immersed in this mission that he ultimately had to give his life for it. And I watched a number of documentaries over the years.

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  6. I think one thing that became quickly apparent to me was that the value of words and the spoken word is such a powerful tool, perhaps maybe more powerful than the atom bomb in many ways. The fact that he had a vision The whole I have a dream so all great leaders I believe share a vision and then they have a journey and so he talked about the division the journey the completion of the dream and the conquering of injustice but to me King was so many things he was a preacher he was a messenger a visionary he was a precursor

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  7. This past week in reading a book review in the New York Times book review section that when Dr. King was in the seminary at Crozier, which is in Chester, Pennsylvania, that's where he took his practice to become a preacher. That they had a basketball team. And Dr. King was on the team. And so that delighted me to know him to discover that he played basketball during the time. And the person who wrote the book actually found in the archives a box score from one of their games. And unfortunately, they got waxed.

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  8. I would say 99% of people could not tell you all three of them. A lot of people would get king. Some would get James Baldwin. Very few Malcolm X. But it was rare that anyone got all three of them. So they would ask me why I had it up there. And I said, they're my mentors. They're my inspiration. They're the people that whose lives I look to when I'm trying to figure out something complex. And so while I didn't have a day-to-day relationship with Dr. King, I had a mental day-to-day relationship month to month, week to week, year to year because there was so much that I wanted to learn from him. And one thing, while it's in my mind, I'd like to share with you, and I don't know if the vast majority of people that follow King Nudas, I just found out.

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  9. And from that point on, I learned a good lesson that you don't have to have a relationship with a person for them to become your mentor. And so in those days, I don't even know if I knew the connotation mentor, but I looked at King more as someone, as a teacher, someone I could learn from. So as we fast forward, and I'm now working at Nike, and in my office I had this picture in my office, and it was a headshot of Martin Luther King, James Baldwin, and Malcolm X. And so when people would come into my office, they would look at the things on the wall, and they would always be drawn to that portrait. And so what was interesting, most people...

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  10. And when I was growing up as a little boy in DC, my grandma used to always say that money's the root of all evil. Don't bill your life around money. And so it wasn't, you know, I wasn't rich, but I wasn't poor and I wasn't desperate to make money or headlines on it. The headlines of accrued because of people's curiosity about having it. But I look back on it now and it was a classic example of being in the right place at the right time, which has happened so much in my life getting good adult advice. If Dr. Wilson doesn't say you two need to go and I'll provide the opportunity for you, then I would have missed out on a piece of history that put an indelible mark on my life.

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  11. Wife comes home one evening and she says, Hey, we gotta have a talk. I said, okay. She says, the speech has got to get out of this house right away. She said, you travel too much. Somebody's going to break in the house, and I might get killed over this speech. So she said, you got to get it out of here. So we put it in the vault. And as naturally what happened, various people tried to buy it from me, but I never felt that I had total ownership of it. I kind of felt like I was the guardian of something historic. And I became so sensitive about it that I stopped. I would on Black History Month, I'd get many invitations to come, bring the speech, talk about it. But I was so self-conscious that I stopped doing it because I never wanted anybody to think that I was profiting off of this, and I never entertained any offers to sell it.

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  12. And so one time we were talking about it, he said, Well, if you ever get in a situation where someone doubts that you really have the speech or that it was, he said, we can lift a fingerprints off of there. He said, your fingerprints are on there, and so kings. So it was an interesting circumstance that what became the focal part of the speech was something they never really intended to use. And only through the motivation of Mihalia Jackson did he ad lib, the I Have a Dream piece in. So as the years went on, it took on a unique value. And so at one point, Turner Sports does a documentary on it. And so my wife goes to work, people are talking, oh, I didn't know about your husband having the speech.

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  13. And so the cover story on the Cedar Rapids Gazette paper was going to. And so from that point on, it took on a different significance, but it still time had not placed it in its rightful place. And so over the years, it became more, I literally, one of the miracles, Tim, is that for 50 years I had this and no flood, a house doesn't catch on fire, somebody doesn't steal a book, whatever. And if you saw the actual speech now having an alt in LA for the speech to survive this long and the quality of the paper, it's typewritten. You can see little typos in there and so forth. And I had a friend of mine who graduated with me from Villanova, who was with the F.

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  14. That he wrote on his presidency. And so in the book, which I still have both of them now, both books say to George traveling from Harry S. Truman, Best Wishes, and it has the date. So I put the speech inside of one of those for a couple of reasons I would remember where it was. And two, I knew I'd never throw those books away because how many people can say they have an autograph book by the President of the United States personally to you. So it stayed there for years and years and I never thought about it. I actually, my wife didn't even know I had it. And so I go to University of Iowa as head basketball coach. And of course, I'm the first black coach there and first in the Big Ten. And so there's much to do about this. At that time, all the local newspapers, big newspapers had a Sunday magazine section.

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  15. Valuable historic document. So when I got back home, I put it inside of a book that I had that President Harry Truman gave me. So my senior year at Villanova, I played in East West All-Star Game, and it was in Kansas City. And one of the things that they did is they took us out to Independence, Missouri to meet President Truman. And when we went out to meet him, his office at his home was a replica of the Oval Office. And so as we walked in, each of us noticed there was two huge tables to the right with books stacked up on them. Well, at the end after President Truman had talked with all the team and the coaching staff and trainers, on the way out, he gave each of us a two-volume book of

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  16. They go over to the White House, and as they walk into the Oval Office, President Kennedy says, Dr. King, I loved your, I have a dream speech. Well, so the media took that and ran with it because if you see the original speech, the speech had no title. And so little did I know at that time that this was going to take on the historic significance that it actually took 50 years for it to really find its rightful place in history. It makes me mindful of something I heard Malcolm X say one time that history's best situated to record all man's deeds. So my interpretation of that is history and historians ultimately will put things in their rightful place. And so it took 50 years. So I had no idea at that point when I had the speech that it was going to become a

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  17. Impulse. So I say to Dr. King as he's following your speech, I said Dr. King, could I have that copy of the speech? And just as he's folding it, he instinctively hands it to me. And then a rabbi who's doing the benediction says, Dr. King, that's a great speech. I'm so inspired. So his attention shifted away for me to the rabbi. And so when the rabbi finished the benediction, I actually CVS went through the archives of Johnson and Johnson, the Ebony magazine, and they found the picture of me standing right beside him at the podium. So I actually have a picture that verifies that I was there. And CBS was able to find some footage where he was folding the speech and they can see him handing it, but didn't show my hand in it. And so at any rate, when it's over.

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  18. Demonstrations and gatherings with Martin Luther King. So she had heard Martin Luther King tell the I have a dream part in Selma and Detroit. And so if you look at the original speech, it was not part of the original speech. And second, he's the only speaker who exceeded five minutes. And so at that point, the crowd is just mesmerized by then he ad libs in the I Have a Dream speech. And then at the conclusion, he goes back and closes out with the prepared closing. So when it's over, we were told to form a V around the podium and help the usher him out. So just as he finishes, most frequently asked question is why did you ask him for the speech? I have no idea.

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  19. Martin, tell him about the dream. Well, the voice was that of Mihalia Jackson, who most people would say is the greatest gospel black gospel singer of all time, maybe the greatest gospel singer of all time. She had worked on previous

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  20. The more energized people were. And so we finally get to that point of the end of the day and Martin Luther King comes on to speak. And so as history will show, King speaks speaking from prepared notes and he gets about one paragraph left and as he speaking the crowd is just mesmerized by him he has captured every single ounce of attention in each human being and he had a cadence about the way he spoke that he would say how long he had these what I call drum beats and he had a way of raising and lowering his voice to manipulate you as a listener and so he's just about toward the end of the last going to the last paragraph and you hear a voice and today with technology you could certainly do it but a female voice from seated behind the podium says tell them about the dream

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  21. So part of the stipulation was each speaker had to submit in writing his speech that he was going to give and could not exceed five minutes. There was a hard and fast rule on this. And what was interesting about it was that James Baldwin submitted his speech and they felt it was too exclamatory. They were worried about getting the crowd too excited and maybe having a demonstration. And Baldwin's speech was over five minutes. And so they wouldn't accept it, so Baldwin refused to speak. But he was originally to be one of the speakers. So as the day goes on, it's a hot and humid day. And as you look out from Lincoln Memorial, you look out to what they call a reflecting pool all the way back to the Washington Monument. And as the longer the day went, the hotter it became...

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  22. Says, well, we've decided we're going to put extra security up on the podium, and so we're going to sign you guys to the podium. And so they had these little white hats, which Maybe like a sailor hat, but they're cardboard to wear for identification. So we were stationed at the podium where all the speakers were going to

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  23. Economics, and we got to run. And so we decided that we would go down to the monument grounds just to get a feel for the best way to get there and what it was going to look like. And so as we were walking around, we encountered a gentleman and he asked us, I'm 6'4 and worn 6'4". So he asked us if we were coming to the march the next day. And we said, absolutely. And so he said, would you want to volunteer? And so we said, for what? And he said, to be security guard. So we said, sure, we'll volunteer. And he said, well, we're expecting twice the attendance that the papers are predicting. And so we have to add additional security. So he said, well, meet you down there the next morning at 8.15. And so we got there early. We woke up. We were all excited. So we get down there and we find him. And he said, wow, you guys are really early. And so he looks at how tall we are.

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  24. Youthful excuse that we didn't have any money or way to get there. And so he said, well, I have a feeling this is going to be a historic event. It could be the largest gathering of black people in the history of America in one place. And so he said, and I think the two of you should be there. He said, so what I'm going to do, he had two cars. He said, I'm going to give you one of the cars and money, and you guys should attend. And so the next day we took off for Washington, D.C. on Friday. And at that time, there was one main thoroughfare into Washington, D.C. was Route 1. And so when you come in, you come in off of New York Avenue. And so there were a lot of what we call motels in those days along there. And we found one that was suitable to our.

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  25. Those stories about being in the right place at the right time. a Thursday night in Claymont, Delaware, and I was having dinner at my best friend's home and his doctors, his dad was a very prominent dentist in Wilmington. And so in the background as we ate dinner those days, everyone ate dinner as a family. And so in the background, the television was on and the news commentary was about the forthcoming March on Washington. And so my friend, his name Warren Wilson, his dead was Dr. Woodrow Wilson. So he asked a question of us Going to go to the march on Washington, and we said no, and he asked us, why not? And we gave him a.

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