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Geraldine Brooks

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“Swimming Being grateful 35 years of happy marriage, not everybody gets that. In fact, hardly anybody gets it to the extent that we did where we were so up in each other's business and, you know, worked together, lived together, had two healthy children. I mean, so much to be grateful for and grateful for his books because we can always turn to those and find him there, which is wonderful. Yeah, and just trying to. Live with the enthusiasm that he had about living and do that and kind of dedicate it to him.”
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“Just working more, I realized that I've kind of filled the void in my life where we used to sit around, drink wine and tell jokes at night by just working. So, you know, I used to think I worked a lot, but now I'm really a machine.”
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“Yes, but are they being received? Because we're all in our silos now. And it's just an echo chamber. You only hear what you want to hear. And for the longest time, I had a texting relationship with Nice guy on the island that I knew because our kids were in school together and he just got on the Trump train and for a while we could have a discussion but after a while we couldn't because I would send him factual material and he said, I'm not going to read that. It's probably written by a Democrat. And then he just started then getting incredibly mean and hateful and I had to give it up because he wasn't the nice dad of the third grader that I'd known.”
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“I'm not sure if that half of the electorate is even hearing about this. You know, I do occasionally Change the channel and listen to what they're presenting, and they are still putting up these total lies about what USAID was doing. This has been proven to be false. Several of these cases that they make a big deal of of funding transplays in Ireland or whatever it is, it didn't happen. Half of the electorate who's watching that doesn't know. And I don't know how we fixed that.”
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“And so they did that for about a month while the indictments were being prepared to shut down the people who were laundering the crypto for the terrorists.”
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“Dedicated his working life to the physics of why coal mine roofs collapse and how to stop that. And I thought, okay, if you're going to defend government, let's defend the most unpopular branch. So I looked for somebody in the IRS. And I found Jared Koopman, who is involved in the cybercrime unit. And his team had liberated 23 kids who were being sexually abused by pedophiles. Crackdown on fentanyl dealers. He figured out how to hijack the websites of Al-Qaeda and Hamas. And so anytime people were contributing cryptocurrency to fund terrorism, it was actually going to the United States Treasury for the victims of terror fund. And while they had the website, they decided to have a bit of fun with it. So if you clicked on the emblem for Hamas, you got rick rolled, which I thought was.”
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“Nobody had turned up from the Trump team to take those briefings. So Michael turned up and got the briefings and said he found this opportunity of all these great stories of the things that government was doing, these problems that they were working on that only this country could possibly have the ambition and the resources to solve. And so he wrote about several of the key people in the fifth risk. And then he wanted to revisit that. So he assembled a bunch of his writer friends that he knew and basically set us loose to find somebody in the bureaucracy who was solving a big problem. And he wrote a beautiful piece about the guy who had figured out how to stop coal mine roofs collapsing and saved thousands of lives because he”
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“We started this project in the hopes that this would not occur and the expectation that it would not occur, you know, because we didn't understand this country very well. But all the attacks on government, like public servants are lazy and wasteful and they're not doing anything worthwhile. And this is so fundamentally not true. And Michael Lewis had already written one book about this called The Fifth Risk in which he basically during the early days of the first Trump debacle realized that the beautiful transition that Obama's team had planned for where every government department had prepared briefing papers for the incoming new administration explaining how everything worked.”
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“This is the United States of America. It's not Somalia. You know, you don't expect this place You're run by an unelected billionaire with his snout in every trough, and that's your subject, who anticipated Elon Musk would be running our government? And how is that okay? Baffled of West Tisbury”
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“So I was in Oxford. And I did an absentee ballot. And I had that ballot on my lap. I'm sitting in this medieval cloister filling in my bubbles. And I fill in, of course, Kamal Harris. And I looked at the next bubble and I thought, nobody is going to fill in the bubble for that flaming. And now I realize I don't understand anything about this country because more than half of the electorate And now we're reaping that harvest and my instinct is to not be on the streets, not be loudly resisting, just let people see what they voted for. But at what cost?”
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“Australia, you know, he didn't want to live in Australia, so he won that argument. And now I've got these two inconvenient American children. Careless of me.”
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“Thank you for being here. Yeah. Well, I didn't want it to be a dirge. I wanted it to be somebody who knew Tony who would bring his light and humor into the conversation. But I was very nervous right before the first event. So I had this dream in which we had a terrible fight. And we had hardly any fights in real life. I've had a lot of dreams where I'm fighting with him. Of course, it's not with him, it's with the fact that he's dead.”
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“Oh yeah, well, you know, in dreams that happens all the time, he comes back in dreams and we have lots of conversations, but I don't know whether my subconscious and his actual intentions are aligned or not.”
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“So, my sons and I have talked about this a lot, and it's very sad for us that we didn't get to say goodbye, but I think maybe for Tony it was. Because he was a guy who was very averse to talking about death. He would never, like if I wanted to raise the subject, I watched my mother. Go downhill with Alzheimer's, which is this just cruel theft of her personality. And I'm really into advanced directives and specifying the kinds of interventions I don't want. I could never get Tony to engage on this. And our oldest son tried to give him Atul Gawandi's book Being Mortal. It's the one book that my son gave him that he refused to read. He just did not want to think about his mortality at all. And as it turned out, he didn't have to.”
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“You end up having to go to court. That's where you find women. That's where you're finding the enslaved because the testimony was often taken verbatim. You can hear them speaking in their own voice.”
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“You mean for the fiction? Well, you're always looking for the voice, you're looking for the voice. I like to write with a first-person narrator in the fiction because I think it gives an immediacy to it. And so I can't really start until I can hear that voice. So to hear voices from the past, you try and read everything that was written by people of that time and place. And that's so much easier with men because they had the luxury of writing about their lives. They had time to write their journals and their extensive correspondences with each other. And the poor women, if they were literate at all, Working their tail off and also enslaved people were not allowed to become literate for the most part. It was against the law to teach enslaved people to read and write. So if you want to find their voices.”
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“Again, I was writing this for me, and I wrote it because I needed to write it, and I'm still surprised that anybody needs to read it, but it's only been out a couple of weeks, and I'm just getting a deluge of incoming from people who are reading it and who are relating to it because, oh, well, it's another head slapping moment. We're all going to lose everyone we love. That's the human condition. People have been incredibly warm in their response to it. So it turns out that I wasn't just writing it for me, but that was what I was thinking of.”
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“Okay, so with me to Flinders Island, I finally took a few of the books that Kind People had gifted me about grief and loss. And then I pulled off the shelf this tatted galley of year of magical thinking. Tatted Galley of John Dudian's book because Tony had been judging the National Book Award that year and so he got an early galley and of course it was really messed up like most of his books were and on Flinders Island and I start reading this heartbreaking account of how she lost John Gregory Dunn so suddenly and Tony has scrawled name dropping, padded. And Didian won the National Book Award, but no thanks to Judge Tony apparently.”
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“We disagreed on very few things, but one of them was how you treat your books. I would no sooner write in pen on a book than get a knife out and just gouge this piece of furniture. You know, I get a book and I take the dust jacket off it while I read it and I clean hands, don't read it while I'm eating. I want my books to last. And he was the opposite. He turned down pages, he scribbled all over them in pen. And I thought that was just terrible, but now I'm really glad because if I pick up a book that he has read and I haven't read it yet, it's like I'm reading along with him and I can learn what he thought of it.”
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“I think when he had control over his product in the way that you do when it's a book, I mean, he was a bit of a control freak in that regard. And once he had that and astonishing good luck that we had to both be able to make a living writing books, which is by no means a given, that that worked out for us, he became a very contented man and blow me down. There are no journals.”
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“And I should add that he stopped journaling once he started writing the books because then he was. Really content in his work. I think he realized that he didn't like working for editors.”
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“I hesitate, no, our relationship was, you know, it was solid and built on great trust. So I didn't think that there was going to be anything. I would learn that would rattle me.”
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“At the time he was extremely worried, he was extremely worried that we were losing the ability to talk to each other. Wasn't a shared community of facts that we all agreed on. I think that that was troubling to him, but it's only just got so much worse in the five years since he died. I don't know what he would make of it now.”
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“I think we really missed out on the fact that he wasn't around to keep doing what he had, you know, essentially his life's work of seeing how these historical rifts were playing out in contemporary society. And I think he would have probably embedded with those guys and followed their court cases. I don't know. I think that was the story that he'd really devoted himself to.”
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“The fact that Frederick Law Olmsted before he became the founder of landscape architecture and the creator of Central Park and Prospect Park and all the other great landscapes that he created was a reporter for the New York Times. And he went south with an assignment to look at why the country was so divided right before the Civil War and was there anything that could be done about it. So Tony decided to take Olmsted's journals and reporting from that time and recoot and ask the same question. And it turned out to be a brilliant book.”
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“Yeah, no, when he wrote Confederates in the Attic, I think he was reporting that. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not very good at dates, but I think it was 96 when he was on the On the road reporting that, and he would come back with these incredible stories of the people that he'd encountered for whom the Civil War was not finished. And then spying on the South was the kind of brilliant conceit. It was based on”
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“For this society, and I think he was very prescient in seeing the default lines forming way before other people noticed the divisions, income inequality, the divisions between urban and rural north and south, the whole nine yards of the things that we have seen pulling us further and further apart.”
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“You know, he had a high moral purpose. He was a reporter of great seriousness, but he loved people and he loved trying to find out what made people the way they were and what made them think the way they did. And he ran towards the people that other people back away from. And I have to say, when I watched the invasion of the capital on January 6th, I looked at those guys with their Confederate flags and their stringy hair and the strange of it. And I thought, Tony's probably had a beer with at least 10 to 20% of those guys because he really wanted to know why people embraced that ideology.”
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“I read that, and I just laughed out loud because one year later he would be the star reporter in the London Bureau of the Wall Street Journal covering the revolution in Romania and then leading the coverage of the First Gulf War and being the first Western reporter into liberated Kuwait. And then he'd have the Pulitzer Prize. So it was... It was funny to me that he thought that, and then it was also sad that he'd been insecure at that time, and he had not verbalized that.”
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“He was. That was a great boon to me because I was quite introverted and he was very extroverted and I could sort of follow in his bright wake while he did all the hard work of our friendships. And I just enjoyed the cruise. He was mostly like that, although, you know, when I was reading his journals, I realized that came hard won sometimes that he had a lot of insecurities and a lot of them were totally unfounded. I mean, I found this one line in the journal I was off reporting somewhere and this was before he'd been hired by the Wall Street Journal and he was still waiting for this staff job to eventuate that he'd been sort of kind of promised. And it hadn't happened. And so he writes in his journal I've come to accept that I may never amount to something in journalism.”
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“I think this was something I noticed when I was covering the Siege of Sarajevo. Optimistic Americans tend to think, you know, we've got our seatbelts and we've got our... FDA approved foods. We might not have them for much longer. But there's this idea that you can make yourself safe. And it's almost an effrontery if something goes wrong with that, like what went wrong you want to blame somebody for it. And I fell into this trope as well. Like, this should not have happened. Well, for a lot of the world that happens all the time, but we are so removed from it. And then I think when people are distraught, we're very uncomfortable about it. We're looking at the watch. It's been a year. Why aren't you cheered up? We want you to be happy. Let's see if we can make you. Instead of just letting people take whatever it is they need to do.”
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“Certainly hadn't been afraid to be by myself, but I hadn't realized how much I would embrace it. Now it is beginning to feel like an addiction. I'm craving the absolute serenity of an unpeopled landscape. And then I understand that I have not been alone. I am reveling in this time because I'm with Tony. In this solitude, finally, I can think about him undistracted. I can read his journals and commune with his thoughts. I can even do what I believed his death had denied me, learn new things about him. I know kids, no animals, no editors, publicists, neighbors, or friends. No one, no matter how beloved, is barging in on us here. I can be beside him all my conscious day and even beyond into my unconscious nights. Solitude has made this space for him.”
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“Often it happens in a sanitized hospital situation. It's not at home like it used to be. And also our lives are just so overwhelmingly busy. People can't drop everything. The way in more traditional cultures people do drop everything. And I realize I'm in an immense place of privilege here because for a lot of people their whole life, their material life changes with a sudden death like this. And also to have somebody who was beloved and recognized what he did and had had such a full life. And then to have the luxury of being able to take myself off and be alone. And I understand that if you're working two jobs to keep food on the table for your kids, you're not going to be able to do that.”
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“I'm not sure, maybe because Think in Western societies, we're pretty lucky in that, particularly in affluent parts of Western societies, we don't see a lot of untimely death. And so it's usually people die when we expect them to, and it's you grieve them.”
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“My ritual was what I ended up doing three years late, which was to just go into nature and get sustenance from that because that is something that I find very sustaining. And in the quiet of being taken out of the responsibilities of my ordinary life, even the loved responsibilities of walking the dog or feeding the horses, I didn't have anything between me and thinking about Tony. And that was what I needed to do as it turns out.”
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“That's amazing. So Aboriginal grieving So, in Judaism, it's a very narrow band of people who have grief responsibilities. And for most people, the period of grieving is very finite. In Aboriginal culture, it's the whole community. Everybody has a notional relationship to everybody else in any given Aboriginal community. And so everybody is involved in this loss. Aboriginal people travel vast distances to get back for what's called Sorry business and it can go on for weeks until everybody has come back and every time a new person arrives the grief starts up again in the same intensity”
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“After a loss is enuit, which is where the bereaved, you don't even offer consolation because the person is in no state to be consoled. So you just go around them quietly doing the necessary things. And then you move into Shiva, which is the active grieving. And the idea that it takes you about 24 to 48 hours to be ready to actively grieve because the state of shock is so great. And I didn't get that because I'm on Martha's Vineyard on Memorial Day, and Tony's died in Washington and my first instinct is I have to get there. I have to get there. So I'm calling the airport and then I'm rushing to the boat and I'm getting in Ubers and that's kind of a crazy way to deal with.”
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“Yeah, if we were Orthodox Jews, there would have been a very set formula that we would have followed. And it's interesting when you read about these other ways of dealing with grief, the Jewish way, one of the things that struck me is that the first period...”
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“The clocks do not stop. No unsilences the phone. The dogs continue to bark. The pianos to play. All poet Wiston could not command the world to acknowledge his great loss, neither can I, as much as I yearned to throw a black veil over my head and sit weeping under a yew tree, that was not possible. Modern life is a juggling act, and if you don't keep those flaming torches moving swiftly through the air, if you lose your focus and drop one, the whole stage might catch fire and collapse beneath you.”
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“It would be so easy to have a protocol in place where you call the local police who are used to dealing with this kind of bereavement and sudden in our little town I know all those guys because they coach the kids lacrosse teams and whatnot and they would have known who to call to be there to support me and it would take like 10 extra minutes to do that. I don't understand why nobody thinks that way.”
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“Just think we don't deal with this very well. You know, and popular culture leads you to have an expectation about what would happen if something, you know, and I've since learned that that's, I'm not alone here. A lot of people get this news in a phone call. But it was unimaginable to me that you would just pick up the phone on any given day and somebody 500 Your life as you knew it was over without even asking you, Are you alone? Are you okay? Do you need to call, you know, no, I was just, it was a very brief conversation with a very tired young doctor who obviously was at the end of her long hard working day on a holiday weekend. I don't blame her. I blame the process through that job at her.”
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“Linda's Island is in the best strait, which is the waterway between the mainland of Australia and the state of Tasmania. And it was a place that I loved. Tony and I had gone there together when I was thinking about my second novel and I was planning to write about a really interesting character from Australian history for various reasons that book didn't work out but we had this trip there and it was It was absolutely our kind of place you know it's just beautiful natural forests and marshes and beaches and mountains and hardly any people. It's sort of if you we ended up on Martha's Vineyard and this place is like Martha's Vineyard if somebody looked at Martha's Vineyard and said all those beaches and woods and rolling fields are very nice but it needs a couple of Transylvanians.”
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“I was trying to be that person, but I wasn't getting there. And I realized it was time to do something about that. And then it was kind of this head slapping moment, like you're a writer. This is the most important thing that's ever happened in your life. Why don't you do what you do and write about it? But I wasn't thinking about, you know, the form of the book or how I was going to tell the story. I just needed to get away from my real life and that whole pretense of normalcy and be completely abnormal alone for a while.”
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“I didn't think about This time on the island as writing a book, I just needed to take some time to think about what had happened because it had been three years and I wasn't right in the head. I realized that I had, after the first crazy year of just panic and drama and dealing with the horrible crushing tasks of figuring out how your life works when the person who looked after half of it is not there. Then the second year, just trying to crawl back to my desk and do some work thinking that work might be therapeutic and trying to look after my sons. Just realized at the three year mark, really, that I had been acting this role the whole time of a woman being normal. That was the part that I was playing. And it was just exhausting because I didn't really feel normal at all. It was a mask I put on when I went out to...”
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“So, yeah, the recruiter had come and they were interviewing me and my professor said now when you go to your interview, they're going to ask you the Cleveland question, which is, would you take this job if it meant relocating to Cleveland? Don't worry, it's just a test. They want to see how serious you are about working for the Wall Street Journal. So I went, they asked, I answered, and they sent me there. And he had an internship on the West Coast, but he came to see me on the way west, and we had a fantastic weekend together. And lucky for me, the radio in his car conked out just as he was leaving the city limits. So he had the whole drive to Eugene, Oregon to think about what a great weekend we'd had. And he turned around came back and got a job in Fort Wayne.”
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“We got together very quickly It was inconvenient because it was almost the end of the year and I had already accepted a job with the Wall Street Journal”
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“That was your initial attraction. He was always borrowing money from me as well. All right, sounds perfect. So I had to keep track of him.”
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“Well, it was partly his incredible insight and idealism in this class and partly his beautifully tanned sculpted forearms.”
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“And I said, yeah, but after that, you saw me. And he said, Yeah, but you were always sitting next to that guy called Bronstein, who was a very handsome, charming guy. And I said, we were seated alphabetically.”
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“and he didn't wave back and I thought you and the horse you rode in on and I didn't think about him again for six months until we found ourselves in a seminar on business reporting that we had both taken on a whim because we thought if you're going to be a journalist who smashes capitalism you should understand something about how it works so we'd both been drawn to it and once we were in class together I was really impressed with his idealism he'd come to journalism school from organizing for black woodcutters in Mississippi trying to get them fair pay for their pulp wood hauling and as I got to know him I realized that he told me that he hadn't waved back to me in the wardroom because the night before he'd been out carousing with his brother at Danceria and dropped his glasses down the toilet so he couldn't even see me”
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