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  1. “Just focus on being a sponge Funny, I asked my husband the same question the other day. I said, Hey, we're talking to somebody, and people were asking this He sort of paused for a while and he said, I tell him patience. I said, What do you mean? And he said, I see so many young people like they're in such a hurry to somewhere. I don't know where. And that if they just had patience and let life unfold. That may be a surprise where they ended up. Actually, I think that's a really good answer. To be honest”

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  2. “I feel like a life you can be proud of is just one if you leave something a little bit better. It doesn't have to be big. That's a life well-lived, right? It was Churchill who said you might remember it better than I. You make a living by what you get and you live a life by what you give, something to that effect. But my advice would probably, when I'm asked this. I would tell them to ask more questions and give answers.”

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  3. “And it's a proof that to this day, even though I'm no longer still active as a CEO, these are all still my friends. And we are friends, all of us. And I can remember some of them when I first became a CEO calling me and saying, hey, it's a little lonely here. So let me talk to you. And then when they became, I did the same for them. And then they remember and they do it for the next generation. And so it's a very supportive, almost to a T any of the women you could name who have been CEOs, I would say, almost to a T have all been very supportive. In fact, a number of us work on a little another non-for-profit right now called Journey, which some women who had started the Fortune's most powerful women had started, which was could we get more women, particularly diverse women, but women in general to more quickly be into positions of leadership and power? And so many of the women you named in more, you know, we all dedicate.”

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  4. “When you do anything hard, it takes time and perseverance, like we talked about. And you can get Where do you get the fuel for it? You can either get it from your attitude or you can get it from your network or your relationships. And I'm a firm believer relationships are from what you give, not what you get. Meaning you give, trust me, they will come back at the time they need to come back to you at these moments in life. If you focus on how can I bring lex value, there'll be a day I need Lex and he will be back. To those women to me, relationships are not transactional.”

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  5. “I worked there first, though, remember, right? So I'm very. Know in some ways, I'm very beholden, right? You know, I'm very appreciative of what they did. I mean, Mary and I are circuit the same. Well, I'm a bit older But circa, that genre.”

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  6. “She's a great leader. I always tell Mary what I think of her is I think she's one of the most authentic leaders out there, most authentic”

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  7. “And I so A long answer to your question about I didn't, but I am so empathetic and I am in awe of what they are able to do. And it made me then, I think, more empathetic to the policies and the like around that topic. So you could keep great people in the workforce.”

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  8. “I'm like, you know, look at her credentials. They're far outstanding. I'm like, and I thought to myself like, ding, one of those moments, if my own sister feels that way with all her credentials, I'll bet I went back to work the next day and I said, hey, pull for me. All the people who've left for parental reasons or whatever, family reasons, didn't come back. And it began a program of returns. And I can't tell you how many, and men and women was because they didn't feel confident to come back. They thought technology passed them by. Okay, we said it's three months. You could stay one month, three months. Doesn't matter. Well, a lot of people are like, one day, they're like, you're right, not that much happened. Well, it happened, but I caught up. I actually know more than I think, you know, and”

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  9. “You know, when you've got less people to have to take care of. And so I'm very considerate of that. And I think much of it informed many of the policies I put into because I had such great empathy for those who then still had these other responsibilities. And I desperately wanted them all to stay in the workforce. So I can remember and my siblings have been more successful than I, by the way. I mean, to my mother's credit. My one sister who went to Northwestern has an MBA, built some of the most sophisticated systems. She spent her whole career at Accenture and just recently retired as a chief executive of all of consulting. But at one point, she took off time to spend with her family and then went to go back to work. She's talking to me and she's like, I don't know if I should go back to work. You know, maybe life's, you know, technology goes so fast. It's been a few years. I'm sitting there like, what are you talking about?”

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  10. “Want people to believe to do my job, you can have no children. That is not right. I know other great women CEOs, Marilyn Houston, who ran Lockheed Martin, extremely technical company, Mary Barrow, who runs General Motors, Alan Coleman who runs DuPont. These are all my friends to this day. And they've been fantastic mothers and husbands, good parents, right? And so I talk about it because it was a choice we made. And so we both felt, look, We'd reached a point where for his reasons, what he had to do, I'd already felt that way and that we were comfortable just being great aunts and uncles. And I'm a great aunt. Well, I like to think that for my little guys. They're older now, but lots of them. There's no doubt though the choices we made, Mark and I, that that made it easier for me to focus on work. I mean, that's just math.”

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  11. “Between my brother and I and my other two sisters. And so they still call me Mama Bear even. I mean, I'm extremely protective of all of them. And it is as if I had raised them and my mom did a great job raising them. I didn't. But I was there. And so. When it came time to have children, and my husband came from a family where his father died and was raised by a single mother, very similar endpoint, different reasons why he ended up, you know, his father did not abandon them.”

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  12. “So I had to learn that, and I might have said, you know, you're the only one that can determine your own work life balance. Companies are innate things. I mean, they will take everything they can from you. And it's not a bad thing. They just will, as will bosses. I mean, you give it. We'll take it. And when people ask for, you know, I need roof. I'm like, okay, I had to come with terms with. The criminal was me if I needed that balance. I had to set those boundaries. And so when I comment about a family, because I am in extreme awe of people with children who work, it is a extremely hard thing to do. I watch my siblings. I love my nieces and nephews. And, you know, A, the emotional, their pain is your pain every minute of a day. And then you still have a job on top of it. And so when my mom had to go back to school and had to work, I was the one. And so when she couldn't go to the teacher meeting, I went to the teacher meeting. And so in some ways, and there's an age gap.”

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  13. “That are really valuable to other people, they're going to learn something. I assume that is, I mean, you ever told me my interpretation is that's why you do this podcast, that you feel like in service of other people, that you can bring them something unique by the way you do this. Now, I should ask you, why do you do it? That's my impression.”

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  14. “If I failed or succeeded, it's not just me. It came from a country in Africa. I feel like the whole country is on my shoulder, my success or failure. That's a burden. I mean, like, I don't feel that burden. Not true. As a woman CEO, I did feel like, you know, even the headlines when I was named said, you know, her appointment will either, you know, her successor failure will be a statement for the whole gender kind of thing. I didn't dwell on it, but I meant that's, but I could see how people, like you said, it could be a small group, could be whatever. And so that is a lot of pressure on people. And they need role models. You're a role model for people. Look at what you're able to do. You do these podcasts. You understand your science very well. You're very well prepared. Your ability to translate it to people, that's not an insignificant thing. And you may think, oh, is that about the power of me? Not really, right? And you obviously believe you don't do this because you just sit at a microphone. You do it because you think, okay, if I can get people to say things.”

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  15. “It is reality the world, and I the work I do now to put this group called One Tent, put one million black employees into the middle class without college degrees, get them the right skills, upwardly mobile jobs. So one of my last years, we had been working on, it just did regular leadership session at IBM and had our black colleagues were talking about what did it feel like to be a black leader. And here, these are extremely accomplished people. And I can remember very well one telling a story about, look, I felt”

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  16. “And I think I've just, you know, grown up believing my advice to young women, go into engineering. Not because you're going to be an engineer. It teaches you to solve problems. And anything you job you do is going to be solving problems. Things like that are what I take away from that in that journey.”

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  17. “An interesting reaction, and here I am 40 years later. That's an interesting reaction, right? And I say, no, the book, I really worked hard to write it for everyone. I just happened to be a woman, right? But there's still that there. And so look, until I think people see and never feel that they have a, it doesn't even matter whether there's a woman, could be another diverse group that feels it. It's okay to ask those questions. And that's why actually I'm okay talking about it because there were times I felt it, right? There were times in my life on my looks or my weight or my clothing or endless numbers of things that people would comment on that they would not have commented on if it was someone else. Now, on the other hand, when there's so few of you and, you know, there's good and bad. I mean, there's benefit to that too, right? If you do good work, you'll be recognized. It's easier to be recognized. And so a pro and con.”

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  18. “Got to learn which in which way. Now, all that said on gender, it is an interesting thing with the book, as I've talked to, you know, having a book. Some of my best friends or frustrations. I can't wait for my daughter to read it. I say Well, that's interesting. Do you think you could read it?”

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  19. “I learned a lot, so it didn't. Now, all that said, back to my earlier story about being a role model, you know, it would be foolish to not believe that there were times that that mattered. I would say two things, even not that long ago, you know, a colleague called me and was talking about media and about women CEOs and said, do you notice that sometimes when it's women's CEO, they call the person by name. And when it's a man, they call the company out, not the person's name exactly associated with the issue. And I said, yeah, well, I think you have to just understand much of what you do, it will be magnified because there are so few of you. And sometimes it will be, you know, really can be blown out of proportion, right? And so that can happen.”

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  20. “I'm very mindful that I have worked for companies that are very steeped in those values of equal opportunity. And so nothing remarkable about that. I mean, when I was a wee kid, I'm taught hire a diverse team. I get evaluated for it. I get evaluated if my team has built up their skills. So when you're really formative, you're in a culture that that's what it's valuing, right? So it becomes part of you. I say sometimes to chagrin did I ever feel I was held back for that reason now were there plenty of times when you know I write about a few stories in the book I'm laying cables at night and the guys are at the bar now I didn't really want to go with them to the bar anyways they'd be like we'll be back to get you you know bye and I'm like okay”

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  21. “Know I chose to never look at it. Okay. Now, whether that is right or wrong, and again, I'm a product of the 70s and 70s and the 80s where I think I was surrounded, all the other women around me viewed our way to get ahead was just to work hard, work hard, work hard, and that was the way you differentiated yourself. And that's obvious it did help. I mean, there's no doubt about it. You've learned a lot of things which qualified opened up another door, opened up another door.”

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  22. “You know, they say pivotal moments happen and you don't realize it when they're happening? So, most of my, I feel like most of my self discovery, it's been like something happens in a year or two or some number later, I look back on it and say, you know, I learned this from that. It's like not in the moment always with me. That could just be how I am. So I feel like it's been know yourself is a good thing, right? I've actually heard you say that on different podcasts when you ask people questions. You're like, well, it depends, you know, like know yourself a bit, right? And, uh,”

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  23. “I know it's hard to say, like a confidence thing more than anything else. So, yes, there are times I look around, but then I think, wow, I'm in a position to make something change. So I can't say I have ever really dwell on that feeling for long.”

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  24. “I think that's very natural for someone, no matter the bigger the job gets. You turn and you look to the left and the right, and you see people around you, and you think What am I doing here? Right. But then you remember what you do. And there's no one else doing it. And so you get that confidence. So I do hear a lot of people talk about imposter syndrome, right? And I kind of actually this past year I've spent some time helping people on that topic and Part of the stress, so you have to believe a right to be there like anyone else does if you've prepared for that moment, you know. And so it's a bit more of a”

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  25. “You can't ban knives. And that is, I think back, it was probably 20, I don't know, 15, 16. We did principles of trust and transparency. Notice the word transparency, that belief that with AI, it should be explainable. You should know who taught it. You should know the data that went into training it. You should know how it was written, if it's being used, you have a right to know these things. And I think those are pretty to this day really powerful principles to be followed, right? And part of it, we ended up writing because here we were when we were working on particularly healthcare. Like, okay, you care who trained it and what, and where did, and that's sort of simple, you know, that comes to your mind. You're like, yeah, that makes a lot of sense for something important like that. But it just in general, people won't trust the technologies, I don't think, unless they have transparency into those things. In the end, they won't really trust it.”

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  26. “I mean, you think about it like a knife. A knife can do good and a knife can do bad. Okay. It's very hard. You can't ban.”

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  27. “I agree, like I said, I've spent a decade talking about this question of AI ethics, right? In that it needs really considerable, not just attention, because otherwise it will mirror everything we love, everything we don't love. And again, in that sense, beauty in the eye of beholder, right? Depending on your culture and everything else, with what you're doing and what you're going to do, how do you think about it? Do you think about the AI you're going to develop as having guardrails dictated by some of your beliefs?”

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  28. “It's more fake news. I have done, I've researched this, tried to find any evidence, and people talked to one letter, it was one letter.”

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  29. “Don't just put it on something. You got to rethink how that thing should work because with the AI, it could work entirely differently. And so I also felt it could open up and still will open up jobs to a lot of people because more like an assistant and it could help me be qualified to do something. And we even years ago saw this with the French banks, very unionized, but that idea that you could In this case, the unions voted for it because it felt people did a better job. And so that's just part about being really dedicated to help it help humanity, not destroy it.”

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  30. “Yeah, so AI for security, AI and automated operations, AI in your robotics, AI on your factory. You know what I mean? It's all part of. And I think, and that's why, even to this day, thousands, I mean, thousands and thousands of clients of IBM still have the Watson components that it's the AI being used. So it became a platform is how I would say it, right? And an ingredient that went inside and consultants, like you said, had to learn. They had to learn.”

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  31. “Think Watson brought AI back out of winner for the world, and that since then there's just been one company after another and innovations and people working on it. And I've no regrets of anything that we did. We learned so much. I mean, we probably rebuilt it many times over. It made it more modular. And today to IBM, Watson is more about AI inside of a lot of things, if you think of it that way, which is more like an ingredient versus it's a thing in and of itself. And I think that's how it'll bring its real value. You know, more as an ingredient and it's so badly needed. And even back then, the issue was so much data. Like, what do you ever do? You can't get through it. You can't use it for anything. You know this well. It's your profession. We have to have it, so that's”

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  32. “They really have time to learn another way. I saw it was a mistake when you put it on top of processes, it didn't change, kind of like paving a cow path. Didn't work. I mean, it was all human change management around it that were really its biggest challenges. And another valuable lesson, we picked, back to you said, you think of IBM as moonshaps, we picked really hard problems to start with. I think you see a lot of technology now starts with really simple problems. By that, it probably starts to build trust because I start little. It's like, oh, I'm not ready to, you know, outsource my diagnosis to you, but I'll get some information here about a test question. So very different thinking. So a lot of things to learn. We were making a market at the time. And when you make a market, you know, choice of problem you work on gets to be very important. When you're catching up, well, then it's a scale game. So very different thing. And so, but Watson proved, I think, I mean, I hope I'm not being too...”

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  33. “Me, that was a really big moment, and I do think it brought to the conscious of the public, and in good ways and bad, because it probably set expectations very high of like, whoa, what this could be. But, and I still do believe that it has got the ability to change and help us man make better decisions that so many decisions are not optimal in this world. You know, even medical decisions. And it's right or wrong. What took us down a path of healthcare first with our AI. And we took many pivots. And I think there's a really valuable lesson in what we learned. One is that I actually don't think the challenges are the technology. Yes, those are challenges, but the challenges are the people challenges around this, right? So do people trust it? How will they use it? I mean, I saw that straight up with doctors and like, meaning they're so busy in the way they've been taught to do something.”

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  34. “What was it? And it was really inspired by First Chess, right? And Casper Off, and then you come forward in time. And, you know, I think what Watson did, because you used a really important word, AI had kind of waxed and waned in these winners, right? In and out, in and out. Popular knot. More money, less money, you know, in and out. Confidence, no confidence. And so I think that was one of the first times it brought to the forefront of people like, whoa, I could humanized it because here it is playing against these two gentlemen. And as you did lose it first, you know, and then finally, finally, one at the end of the day. But what it was doing is making you say, hey, natural language, it's actually understanding natural language is one of the first demonstrations of natural language support and bit of reasoning over lots of data, right? And so that it could have access to a lot of things, come up with a conclusion on it.”

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  35. “Is why I think efforts to regulate it are a fool's errand. You need to regulate uses. Because it's not the technology itself is not inherently good or bad, but how it's used or taught can be good or bad for sure, right? And so that's, to me, will unveil now a whole different way of having to look at technology.”

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  36. “It is because I always say it's a reflection of humanity. I mean, it's taught by what man, you know, bad stuff in the past. You'll teach it bad stuff for the future.”

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  37. “You were a little kid back then, though, right? At that 95, you have to be like, were Do you remember it actually at the moment?”

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  38. “I was blessed by not being a chess expert, so it wasn't like it's just a computation problem. It was like a computation problem to me.”

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  39. “Funny. I didn't necessarily think of it so much as AI, and I'll tell you why. And I'm not a chess player, you might be a chess player, so I'm not expert at it, but I think I understand properly of chess, that chess has got a finite number of moves it can be made. Therefore, if it's finite, really what's a demonstration of is supercomputing, right? It's about the amount of time and how fast it can crunch through to find the right move. So in some ways I thought of it as almost a bigger demonstration of that, but it is absolutely, as you said, it was a motivator, one of the big milestones of AI because it put in your consciousness that it's man in this other machine, right?”

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  40. “You make a very interesting point because it is like one of the first demonstrations of using a game to bring something to people's consciousness, right? And to this date, people use games, right, to demonstrate different things. But at the time”

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  41. “10 years and people did things from bullying applications to railroad stuff to whatever it was, but it got like 100,000 people to understand viscerally what is AI. So that's a long answer to my belief around experiential. And so do you ever give it up? I don't think so because I actually think that's pretty good to get your hands dirty in something. Now you can't do it, you know, depending what you're doing, your effort to do that will be less.”

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  42. “Is to help you think, not replace your thinking. There was so much in the zeitgeist about AI being a bad thing at that time. So that was why we picked a mouthful of a word like cognitive. And it was like, no, no, this is to help you, actually. So do what, you know, do what you do better or do something you haven't yet learned. And we did something called the cognitive jam. But the whole point was everybody in the company could volunteer, get on a team. You either had to build something that improved one of our products or did something for a client or did a social self to sell social issue with AI. And again, this goes back now.”

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  43. “I never really did, even, and I think this is really important for today. The best way people learn is experientially, I think. That's being a generalization because there people can learn all different ways, right? So I've done things like with my whole team. All had to learn how to build cloud applications. Called a code off. And so, you know, I don't care what your job is, write code, you know, and I remember when we were trying to get the company understand AI, we did something called a cognitive jam. Okay, there's a reason we picked the word cognitive, by the way, instead of AI. Today we use the word AI. It was really symbolic. It was to mean.”

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  44. “Probably that back to that desire wanting to know how things work. And so that's like a natural thing, you know, math. I loved math for that reason. I always wanted to study how did that get that to work kind of thing. So it goes back in that time. But I did start, when I went in Northwestern, I was already in the engineering school. But my first thought was to be a doctor, that that was far more noble, that I should be a medical doctor until I could not pass human reproduction as a course. And I thought the irony that I could not, I'm like, I got all these colored pencils. I got these pictures. This is not working. I'm going to stick to math. It was the only course in my four-year college education I had to take pass fail because otherwise I risked impairing my grade point average.”

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  45. “I love that logic part of it, right? And you do get a sense of completion at some point when you reach certain milestones that, you know, like, yes, it worked. Or yes, that finite answer to that. So that's what I loved about it. I loved the problem solving of it.”

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  46. “You know, that's, but it's like obvious to even say that, right? I mean, if you can back to being in service of something, we were both in service to clients. So in then. You know, I always say You have a negotiation with someone, okay? Both parties always kind of walk away a little bit. Okay, that's good. If they both walk away going, God, I should have got a little bit more. Okay, but it's okay. I should have got. Okay, they're both a little fussy. When one walks away and thinks they did great and the other one did horrible, they usually is like born bad. I mean, because they never work that way. And I've always felt that way with negotiations that, um, You push too far down, you will, you usually will be sorry you did that, you know?”

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  47. “To me, it was a win-win, and we both actually cared the customers got value. So there was this like third thing that had a benefit, not them, there was this third thing. And that next to that.”

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  48. “Yeah, I was lucky. Look, I did things that helped that. I mean, I knew that people joining us would feel more comfortable if they had people leading it that they recognized, et cetera. I learned that those that didn't then, I eventually had to take some action out. But PWCC had a lot of really dedicated leaders to it. And I give them a lot of credit.”

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  49. “They'll say, You won't remember the specifics of this, but you'll remember how you felt, and that's kind of how I feel, and I think they do too. The whole team does of that. Like, I'll get anniversary notes still on that. When you've been through something like that together with people.”

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  50. “And it's so true. I mean, there was also a governor of Texas who's passed, but she had said someone said, what's the secret of your success? And she said, it's passion and perseverance when everyone else would have given up. And I feel that's what that taught me. That taught me like, you know, no matter how bad this gets, you are not giving up. And this, now you can't keep doing the same thing. Like the, you know, doctor, this hurts. Oh, then stop doing, you know, you can't keep doing the same thing. We had to keep changing till we found our right way to get the model to work right. And client work, we never, never had an issue and kept so many of the people. And now we are 25 years almost later. And a number of them run parts of the Abian business still today. So it's that old Maya Angelo saying, when you say, what do I remember?”

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