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“So humans have convened to name species in a binomial system. So two names. And this was coined by Linnaeus, by Carl Linnaeus. And we still use that system in which we call a species with a first name, which is the genus, and a second name, which is the specific name. So the genus Silosibi and the species Silosopi cubensis, for example. And that binomial, those two names compose the way we talk about all species on Earth. And we can go back up that system that's the taxonomical system. And that's how we get to a kingdom. So we talk about kingdom of the fungi, kingdom of animals, kingdom of plants, and we break that down based on Shared characteristics and finally ultimately get to the species name composed of genera and species.”
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“Isn't necessarily direct there is psilosopy in species that aren't for there is psilocybin in species that aren't psylosophy there is psilocybin in general like inosobi gymnopulus and others so the relationship of how a species is or and a genus is propagated even if it houses these compounds doesn't tell the story by itself So these compounds are found in other genera as well that have the same mechanism of propagation. So it's not that simple to talk just about that one genus housing the species. We know that some of these hallucinogenic compounds are related to reactions that have nothing to do with propagation. There's no evidence of a direct relationship to inhibit ingestion from an animal. Animals eat psilosibae containing psilocybin and propagate them and it doesn't seem to be something that deters them.”
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“One thing that we're learning, and at the Fungi Foundation we are participating in a phylogenomic study of the genus Psylosopy with the Natural History Museum of Utah. And what we're learning, so we're not looking at the hallucinogenic compounds and the chemistry of the fungi in detail. We're looking at the whole genus. So if we look at the genus Silosopy, we are discovering, because this is all very new research, we are discovering that it's very old, that it precedes humanity, that it originates most probably in Africa. Over 25 million years ago, and that it has radiated across the world because of animal vectors, because plants have moved as well. Now, the relationship of a species with a compound”
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“Might be one individual, and that's why we know that the largest living organism on Earth is a fungus. It's the humongous fungus that's in Oregon. It's one mycelium, one genetic body that covers 900 acres. And produces thousands of mushrooms every year, right? One mycelium.”
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“Yeah, it's like taking this brings us to something really interesting. And it's the fact that the mushroom isn't the entire fungus. Now, we're all talking a lot about mycelium lately, right? And so mycelium would be like the body if we do a parallel with a tree. The mycelium is the tree. And the mushroom is like the apple of the apple tree. Right. So, when we see mushrooms on the first floor, we may be seeing 20 mushrooms spread out, but they may be from one same individual, one mycelium. So it might be like seeing 20 apples. It comes from one tree. The problem is we never see the tree. So if we walk into a forest and it's full of amanita muscadia, this red mushroom with white dots, we have no way of knowing how many individuals are there.”
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“K-E-W Gardens. It's a royal botanic garden in England, in Richmond, and it houses the world's largest fungarium, the largest collection of dried fungi in the world, and it has the largest collection of holotypes which are the actual physical dried mushroom from which a species was described. So Amanita Galactica has a holotype, which is the exact mushroom I got out of the car to feel when I first encountered and to collect. And so Q is very important in collegy.”
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“There's a way of finding them that's quite amusing to many, and this is how I found Quaternarius chlorosplendidis. And of course, you know, you're in the forest, you're hiking with, you know, mycologists and you have to go have a pee, of course, right? Nature calls and you go behind a tree and there you go. You're there, you know, you're like, oh, look, there's a green. Oh, it's new to science. And so I found Quaternarius chlorosplendid as well taking the P break in the forest with mycologist from Kew Gardens to Leniskanen. So I'm like, Tula, wait for me. I'll be right back. And then I'm coming back. I'm like, Tula, look, this is a green mushroom. She's like, but where did you find it? I said, look, I was having a PBI in the tree and it was there.”
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“So, the second species is called Cortinarius Chlorosplendidus. Chloro is green and splendidus is splendid. It's a beautiful green mushroom that has a great story to it. I have not only found new species to science, but I found some new species to chile.”
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“Obliges you to share your mate and really creates kinship, brotherhood, sisterhoods. It's important to our cultures, yeah.”
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“I put them in my sleeping bag and I normally share a tent with my fungi, my collected fungi and use body heat to dry them or silica gel. And then once they're stored dry, you look at the microscope for microscopic features and you extract DNA for sequencing. Now before it used to be the microscopic features that would determine the relationships between species Today we know that those microscopic characteristics aren't enough to determine relatedness and we use DNA. So based on those DNA sequences and databases that exist of all these Discovered or not, and then you proceed to describe.”
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“Mushroom is water, so it's a process that's really important, otherwise it will rot. And if you have electricity, you'll use a food dehydrator. Now, traditionally, because I explore pristine places for fungi and there's no electricity, the drying part is the biggest challenge. And believe it or not, nobody has invented a really efficient field dehydrator yet.”
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“And then you carefully wrap it in something that doesn't scratch it, or sometimes you can just hold it in a basket making a little bed. And we go back to, if you're lucky, you're in a place with electricity. I am a field mycologist that explores pristine areas of the world. So sometimes it's just going back to camp. We go back and another process of observation begins, but now opening that mushroom up, cutting it. Again, what's inside is it solid inside? Does it change? Does it smell? It's really a sensual process. And after you write down all these notes, you take photographs with size references, you proceed to dry it. Now you have to dry it in a very specific way in which DNA isn't degraded. Now, we can't cook them. 80, 90% of”
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“Whether it's solid, really important features, whether when you pick it up and it starts going dry, it changes color is a really important feature. Everything is important. So there's a lot of sensuality in that first encounter.”
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“Does it change in color? Does it stain? Does it break? There's a lot of that. There's a lot of very detailed feeling with the senses of touch, of seeing, of smelling, observing if animals come out of it or don't. And we don't pluck them. When you're doing scientific collecting, you will try to pop it out making sure that nothing remains in the soil. So you will dig a bit with your fingers and you will make sure you get to the bottom of this sporum, of this macroscopic body and pick it up, observing every single step. Because there are some mushrooms that you touch and they change color, that you touch and you lose a texture, that you pick up and it breaks. And whether it's hollow, whether it's...”
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“So, the first thing to do, I have a particular method, which is I like to spend time with every species I encounter. So I get to their level. So I'm one of those people who lie on the floor and I will lie down. First, you have to feel, Tim. Because if you're going to describe, you have to feel. So there's a lot of looking without touching. There's a lot of smelling without touching. observing the surroundings who is it growing with what trees are close because fungi are specific to their substrate they never grow and live separate from a symbiont so what trees are around are there more and then clearing begins clearing around the mushroom observing what happens if i touch it does it change”
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“Into a starry night, and I immediately said, This is Amanita Galactica. It was instant. It was looking into the galaxy. And I was in the car with two other people and nobody would get out because it was snowing and raining and literally freezing. And I was like, oh, I'm getting out. Of course I'm getting out. And I spent quite a while with the mushrooms there and had the sense that it was something new. It was in an old habitat and a very pristine habitat. So yeah, it was called Amanita Galactica. And then the journey begins of finding out somebody else has ever coincided. And that's a long journey. You have to look at records of people finding Amanitas and if they did, what were those Amanitas, you know, what did they look like microscopically? What was their DNA? And over time, it became evident that it was a...”
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“To close mushroom actually, Soma. Amanita Muscadia is the god Soma in Vedic cultures. It's a very, very divine fungus and it's the oldest known hallucin to humanity. Huge respect to Amanita Muscaria. Amanita Galactica has a black cap with white scales. And I can let you in on a funny story. People think that it's really romantic to find a new species. I was actually in the car driving and of course, you know, one's eye is pretty used to catching that fungal fuzz. You know, there's a vibe in fungi that's different from soil. It's different from plants. That visual vibe came through and I stopped the car. It was snowing. It was freezing cold. And I saw this black mushroom cap with white dots. And it was like looking.”
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“So I'm Anita Galactica is a little smaller than Amanita Muscaria, which is the flyer Garrick. Some people know it as, you know, the smurf mushroom some people call it.”
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“They are not gendered, but they are not its either they're not objects. So if we're talking about an animal, we wouldn't really call it an it, right? We're talking about plants, we wouldn't either. I honestly And I'm very uncomfortable with objectifying any species of living organism. I just can't call them it, really.”
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“She is or he is because the most recent common ancestor that we have discovered is extremely old. So we build relationships and timing of these relationships based on common ancestry and the closest relation.”
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“We've convened as humans that we organize life based on common ancestry. So we know, for example, that fungi are more closely related to animals than to plants because we have a more recent ancestor. And curiously, this is a small parenthesis to what we're talking about, but that common ancestor between fungi and animals are the opistocons. So it's a cell that has a posterior flagellum, namely a sperm, for example. Sperm cell is an opistocont. Now there are some fungi that have that same type of cell. There's one cell with a posterior flagellum. So that's how we know that we're more closely related because both fungi and animals have that type of cell that's like a sperm. Now, with amanitagala, we know how old”
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“Yes, I have. I've had the honor and pleasure of coinciding for the first time as a human with a fungus. I've named two formally. One is a very special fungus called amanita galactica. It's an amenita that grows in mixed monkey puzzle trees with southern beach. So Aragaidia with not a phagus. And it's a very, very old species, Tim. It's an elder species. It's a species that was around when the supercontinent Gondwana existed, when the continent still hadn't drifted apart. So we know that it's a species that originates when that huge landmass that created the southern hemisphere was still stuck together.”
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“Mycology. And that was my choice. And that's where I found I could give back. So really what startled me about Chile, first of all, was the absence of opportunity and the opportunity to create opportunity. And in terms of the fungal diversity of Chile, everything is fantastic. Every encounter is sublime. The colors, the textures, the possibility to walk in a forest in fall and in an hour encounter over a hundred different species, different sizes, different contextures, textures, smells, different functions. And ultimately, this opportunity to coincide with these most amazing organisms in the world.”
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“Are two ways to answer this question first of all my journey is forged on the absence of opportunity in Chile. So when I discovered fungi and discovered that I couldn't really find much more about them, there was nowhere to study here in Chile, nowhere at all. I had a choice. My choice was I could leave Chile and I could go back to England, I could study my college, I could become a researcher, really, really enrich my knowledge, or I could use my life's effort to make sure that nobody else would ever be faced with that decision again. And use my life effort so that nobody would ever, ever, have to feel they had to leave their country if they loved.”
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“There are two main reasons, and the first one is because fungi have always been associated to the pagan, to paganism. They're organisms that are associated with rot, with decomposition. They often have textures and odors that aren't pleasant to all. They grow associated to humid and sometimes dark places. So that's one reason. And of course they're fantastical properties at altering states of consciousness, which for the Catholic Church was something very scary and very dangerous. And on the other hand, they were thought to be plants and they were thought to be inferior plants, which is even worse. They were treated as the This group of organisms with moss and with ferns that were just very minorly important with respect to vascular plants that formed trees and beautiful flowers. So they were discarded”
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“We were measuring how the foxes were being displaced due to logging of native forest. So as the forest was being lost, habitats destroyed, where were the foxes going? And they were going uphill, up the mountain, trying to get into more and more remote places. But then, you know, you get to the tree line and there's not much more food for them. So we wanted to know what they were eating as they were moving. And there were a lot of rodents they were eating and a lot of really beautiful beetle exoskeletons. You find rainbows in foxcat, I have to say that.”
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“Dry the poop and then sort of open it up and see what they had eaten. That was my job. But it was on that trip that I was walking along a path with this antenna and I saw a huge mushroom on a tree trunk and I wanted to know who it was. And there were no books on Chilean fungi. And it was a lightning bolt. It was like, I'm going to do this. Something happened that I have never been able to stop even if I've tried, but I got home and online shopping had just begun and Barnes& Noble had the opportunity to ship books to the US and then I'd have somebody ship them to Chile and then Amazon was a thing too and I bought every book I could find on fungi. Of course Paul Stamet's books were the first ones I found and I would devour everything I could read. It was that one mushroom who I wanted to know that triggered it all.”
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“We traveled to Chiloe Island in southern Chile, and what we had to do was we had to put these big cages out to capture non-violently, but to capture and trap the foxes. We would put radio transmitter colors on them, and then we would free them and walk around the forest collecting poop and also with a huge antenna trying to find a signal to triangulate their position using radio telemetry. So this is really old school technology. Today you would just put like a GPS chip on them on a collar, but this was 20 something years ago and we're walking around bushwacking with a huge antenna and trying to get some sound in to see where their position is. And at the same time, picking up all the poop we could find. And then I would go back to the laboratory.”
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“It's a funny one, Tim. So I was in university and I remember one morning walking along the corridors and there was a poster stuck on the corridor that said volunteers needed to look for fox poop in forests. And I was like, oh, that sounds amazing, a fox. I really love scat and poop. And we can get into that afterwards. Like so much grows out of it. Of course, my volunteered and of course I was the only one who volunteered and I ended up getting the volunteer position and traveling with my professor, Jaime Jim Jimenez, who studies foxes and other animals.”
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“No, there is never a for-profit NGO. NGOs, we measure our success not in revenue of money in the bank, but of durable change. That's our measure of success, the change we can make.”
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“NGO is the acronym for a non mental. So, a nonprofit, it's an organization that represents civil society and that has a place at tables recognized as where people organize and find a Voice that represents them.”
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“Seaweed farming. And that was really what I did my thesis on and what I graduated doing and ended up curiously working in NGOs against the salmon farming industry and its negative impacts, not against the labor opportunities, but against their environmental practices.”
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“Unfortunately, Chile is a country that has housed open net pen salmon farming in its waters. So for your audience and our audience today to understand aquaculture is basically the cultivation of aquatic resources, aquatic species. So it could be algae, it can be shellfish, mollusks or fish, finfish. And chile is one of the largest producers of farmed salmon in the world. Salmon aren't native to the southern hemisphere and therefore the aquaculture industry of salmon in Chile come with tremendous environmental and social impact. But it means also that there is a vibrant aquaculture industry. And so there were university careers. And I studied aquaculture and got into algae.”
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“To give back in some way, I wanted to give back. And at first I thought that it was through humans and I went to university to study social working. And about a year into that, I was really, really clear that it wasn't humans. Humans weren't my thing. And so I then realized that it was nature. It had to do with giving back in some sort of way. And I thought, okay, let's get humans into green spaces, right? So I tried a second career and an undergraduate's career at landscaping and ecology. And it was still so many humans. It was like planning parks in urban areas. There were a lot of Homo sapiens involved. And I was like, no, this isn't it. And finally, I said, okay, I'm just going to try plants in the water. Like, there will be no humans there underwater. And I studied aquaculture. And that's where I finished my undergraduate studies in southern Chile, in northern Patagonia. I went to a university in a city where I”
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“I stayed in school here with very difficult stories. So my mother had never told me that there were people who liked the dictator. So I got to school here and people would ask me, you know, where are you from? I'm from London and why were you there? Well, my mom was a refugee. And I remember a classmate saying, oh, your mother was a terrorist. You know, she should have been killed and having a go at me in the classroom. And I remember running back home and saying to my mother, how did you not warn me that there were people who liked him? I had never, ever in my life encountered people who liked the dictator. So that was challenging. I stuck in school and then I went at the end of my schooling and it was time to choose undergraduate studies. All I knew is that I wanted”
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“It wasn't smooth, it was very difficult. She came back to a country she didn't recognize. She came back to parents that were old, and in the case of my grandfather ill, and she came back to a country that was disjunct, a country that was looking for this sort of neo-capitalist development way of doing politics and commerce, but not quite getting there. So it was hard.”
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“They are definitely not identical, it was a challenge, but I was always very conscious that I was in no place to be an impediment for my mother, to come back to the country she'd never chose to leave. So I came in total humble respect of making her return smooth.”
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“Yeah. So there's an untold story there of many of the offspring children of refugees and exiles who also have their life truncated in some paths because their parents can return to their homeland. And you come with them because who are you to stop them from coming back to where they never chose to leave from?”
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“No, I'm not back, Tim. Sorry, we have to say this. So, my mother came back, but I didn't come back here. I was born and I came. So we're another generation of uprooted people. I didn't come back.”
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“Because my mother was offered this scholarship to study in London, she left with my father. And that's where the magic happened in council housing in North London.”
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“My father was a student in Rome. I come from a very small village in Calabria, my father's family, my grandparents didn't know how to read or write they were Contadini, so producers of olive oil, wine, salami, subsistence living. And my father left his village and went to study by day and work by night and was studying when the Italian Communist Party and Socialist Party were welcoming all these Chilean refugees. And he met my mother during a welcome party for Chilean refugees and they fell in love.”
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“No, it wasn't through Argentina, it was because her mother, my grandmother, and aunt had already left Chile and had established in Italy. The reason is Italy was open to receiving refugees. Italy had a policy of welcoming people who were fleeing the regime here. And so did other countries like Sweden and other places around the world. So it's more to do with how Italy was open to receiving people.”
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“There's no choice. She was incarcerated for 365 days and then given two weeks to leave. So that all boils down to where you can get to. And she jumped over to Argentina, jumped over the Andes. She didn't jump. Well, she flew over to Argentina. But Argentina was also under really unstable political regimes, various dictatorships. And from there, she was able to travel to Italy. where she stayed for two years and then to England. So really there's no choosing.”
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“Because, first of all, she thought differently, and that's one of the biggest sins in these regimes, she was a student, and she, from a very young age, was active in politics and student fora and really in just creating discussion.”
2021-08-04 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #525: Giuliana Furci on the Wonders of Mycology, Wisdom from Jane Goodall, Favorite Books, and the World’s Largest Fungarium · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, the short and unsweet answer to that is that dictatorship and exile leads to that. So my mother was a victim of the coup in 1973 here in Chile. She was a political prisoner for a year, incarcerated and tortured, and then made to leave. And she left Chile, arrived in Italy, where she met my father and then moved to London with a scholarship to study a master's degree. So I am a product of exile.”
2021-08-04 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #525: Giuliana Furci on the Wonders of Mycology, Wisdom from Jane Goodall, Favorite Books, and the World’s Largest Fungarium · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT