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Gloria Borger

lines on the record: 77
first: 2018-11-12
most recent: 2018-11-12
sittings or episodes: 1
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“To tell everyone, I supply David Axerod with his twizzlers. Every election night. And we both by the end of election nights were sick to our stomachs. I bring the Twizzlers”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Exactly And he got mad at me. And I said, well, he said, no, no, no, we're not the party of Trump. And today it's the party of Trump. He owns it. He operates it. He believes he saved it in the Senate. And it's about him. And I don't know how long that can last. But that's what it is right now.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And try not to leave the people out that the Democrats, the so-called, that Hillary's mistake, you know, try not to leave so many people behind. And that both parties will learn from it. But I can tell you now, the Republican Party is the Trump Party. There is no other Republican Party. And maybe there'll be a third party. Who knows? But there is no other party. When I did this documentary on Trump, and I can end with this if you want, that I sat down with Reinz Priebus, who was then chair of the RNC, and I asked him, is before the convention. And I asked him, I said, okay, so is this the party of Trump? And he got, Reinz is a very sweet person and he doesn't get angry. He got really angry at me and said, what do you mean? Is this a party of Trump? We're not the party of anyone person. We're the Republican Party.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't know the answer. I'm not trying to dodge your question, but I really don't know the answer to that. I like to think that the pendulum in American politics swings. And that after after a Donald Trump. It's just like you got Jimmy Carter, you know, after a Donald Trump, you may get somebody who is the opposite You know, after PT Barnum, maybe you get to somewhere more in the middle because the public is tired by it.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What was behind the policy of separating children from their parents At the border. These questions Can be asked about what's going on at the EPA. And those things, the American public want answers to that. Who is lobbying the EPA? Who's got the top jobs there? What are these revolving doors we're hearing about? So industry working with environmental protection and having too much influence. So, I think the Democrats will do that. I think there's a danger, as you know. Overdoing.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And checks and balances. I mean, they can do their job of oversight. That's their job. And so they can start asking questions about what happened in the Puerto Rico hurricane. Right.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Don't see it right in front of your eyes right now, but it will make a very, very big difference. And that's good for the Democrats. So I think that it was a hugely consequential election, usually consequential. I think emotionally what we heard from some of our panelists last night, like Van Jones, who was upset about Stacey Abrams or Gillem. It was sort of these were the emotional stars of the cycle. And if they didn't win that van called it heartbreaking, I think. But the real story is that the Democrats made amazing headway here and control the House. And now have something to say about the agenda.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, I think that is hugely, we've usually underplayed it because it's only day one, but that's going to have an impact for decades. So I think that”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Which is huge, and you see the state legislatures. I mean, in the Obama years, I think 1,000 state legislative seats were lost. I'm not sure all of them were made up last night, but I think a lot of them were”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, look, I think as you were pointing out, Donald Trump, I mean, the fact that Florida remains for him, maybe, right? Yes, is important. But Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, big states for him, may not be available to him. And I think he thinks of everything in terms of 2020. So I do think it has impact. The one thing we haven't talked about, which is, okay, the governors are so important. Yeah. Because you need a governor on your side if you're running for president. They have the infrastructure. And then redistricting”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah. John Barron. And he started out, you know, doing really well with the press, with New York tabloids. He was the store of New York. And so I think now this is kind of a whole different ballgame for him. and he doesn't like any criticism, period. When you're president, if you're not criticized, you're not doing anything.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And the president complains about all these fake news and these fake sources. And of course, you know, there are a lot of people that he knows who are talking. And he talks to the press. You know, he'll call up Maggie Haberman or he'll call. Yeah. And he'll say, I don't know her Well, of course he does. So he plays that game too. He's done it his whole life. He used to pose as his own PR guy.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Contributors and one to CNN in Atlanta. I think that it didn't get any better. And I think that I've never worked anywhere that was having an open discussion with the president, discussion as in quotes, discussion with the president about our role as a free and independent press. As we are now. And so we're under attack every day and you just do your job. There's nothing else you can do. It does strain relationships with people who work at the White House. Although I must say a lot of people who have revolved in and out of the White House who I talk to on a regular basis understand what's going on and it doesn't stop them from remaining sources of mind.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But it's hard when he goes after the media and he says I didn't say that and it's on tape. Right. That's a little bit difficult. The relationship with CNN is now very difficult. And, you know, after the pipe bombs, and I guess three of them were sent to...”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, that's why the famous That's our job. It's our job to ask tough questions. And today, at a press conference, the president was. Not only snippy with us and critical, but he actually accused an African American reporter of asking a racist question. And he was dismissive and talked about, you know, everything is the press's fault. It works. I mean, attacking the media works and it's his tried and true. And if he doesn't have any other particular enemy, this is as good as anything else.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And that Yeah, and he is. And that's why our weeks are so crazy. I mean, you can barely remember what happened on Monday on Friday. I mean, and Look, politicians, it's as old as the ages, attack the media. I don't know one president who loved the media all the time. Without question, right?”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, without question, live. And why are you doing that? And I'd hear from the Bush campaign. Why are you giving him all this free media? And they had a point. They actually had a point. I think we probably did run too much of Donald Trump live. But Donald Trump Live was captivating. It was good television.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's really unusual to be called the enemy of the people and fake news. And, you know, when we started out this campaign because our boss, Jeff Zucker, had a pre-existing relationship with Donald Trump because he, after all, put him in the apprentice. And made him a star. So they had a fine relationship. It was fine. And in fact, I believe, thinking back on it, you may remember this too, that CNN came under a lot of criticism for running too many of Trump's.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's generally the strategy. Generally, the strategy is to tell people who didn't vote for you here's why you should have voted for me, and I'm for you too, because I'm the president of everyone. And Donald Trump just has never done that. And he will only went to places during the campaign where he would get full adulation and knew that he can make a difference and then handed the House to Paul Ryan and then blamed him. So I think that's who Donald Trump is. And then today he shamed all these people by name who didn't ask him to campaign for him. And he sort of said, I don't know, am I happy that they lost? I don't know. Am I happy? Am I sad? These are Republicans.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But it's hard to think of a president, and you worked for one, and who wouldn't, after you're elected, go out and try and expand rather than contract?”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So it is shrinking a little, even in the sort of what he, those three states he were talking about, they're not guaranteed. And he does have a great deal of blue-collar support. I think Democrats have to find a way to get that back, which they, because Donald Trump has done very well with blue-collar sports.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And the people, the Democrats brought in were not the sort of Republicans like to say it's the wild-eyed progressives. These were George H.W. Bush, moderate, moderate Republicans, now Democrats that they brought in. I mean, these were not, these are not raging liberals that they brought into the House of Representatives. These are suburban moderate. Republican districts. So when you talk about a realignment and the Democratic Party looks very different, I mean, it's white, suburban. Well educated, wealthier plus minorities. I mean, white plus minorities who are largely democratic. And the Republican Party is shriveling into this sort of older demographic and eventually, you know, you can put off the inevitable only for a certain amount of time, but they've got to find new people.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right. Look, I think that it's a huge deal. The Democrats took the House. And I don't know if you would use this word, David. You know more about these things than I do. But I think we're seeing the beginning of a real realignment in American politics and that the president can go back to the Red States all he wants and he's got his base, et cetera. But if you're going to grow that party beyond Trumpism, you can't lose women 60-40. You can't lose independence by 12 points. You just can't.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, and I think Chuck Schumer today, and that's the Senate side, but they'd like to pass legislation that guarantees that he can keep his job. But whether you could do that in a lame duck or how that would occur would... Is not quite clear. There have been, I should point out, lots of Republicans last year who said firing Mueller would be the red line. And of course he hasn't fired Mueller. He's fired sessions. But whether Republicans now still believe that or care about it, and Mueller in our exit polls last night. Mueller's popularity was underwater, and I'm sure Donald Trump looked at that. It was 46 disapproved to 41 approved.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I could see that. Everybody who works for him says they call him the boss. When you go into the boss, it's all business. And he asks you 50 questions. He makes a decision and then... There's the next thing. There's no kibbutzing. There's nothing.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I was told when he had a Christmas party at his house, which was called for six to nine, at nine o'clock he started flipping the lights on and off and telling people it was time to leave.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He wanted to get back on the beat? Yeah And then somebody who worked with him in private practice, he never stayed in private practice for very long because this person said to me, you know, he'd sit down with his white-collar client. And the client would tell him the story. And then Mueller would say, well, sounds like you're guilty. You want to plead. And that didn't go over too well? So he's always preferred. To stay in government. I mean, he's a real prosecutor.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I know, you know what? I did a 10 minute piece on him, and he speaks to nobody. So I have interviewed a lot of people who know him really well, but I can't say that I know him other than by his reputation and by the testimony of people who worked with him for years who tell very funny stories about him, my favorite of which is that we got a couple of them. One is he called Eric Holder at one time and he asked for a demotion. Because he wanted to He wanted to get back on the”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It seems to me Mueller had to know something like this could happen. They're too smart. But I don't know what his plan B is. I just, I don't know.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They reserve the right to invoke it later. So, you could have Mueller, this is going to be a very big issue, and it could be a bit of a crisis. Write a report. And you could have the Justice Department redact most of it because the White House says it's privileged and then have a half Go to Capitol Hill, which will create havoc, particularly now with a Democratic House. There would be a fight over that. There would be a fight over privilege. And it could go to the Supreme Court. I mean, I just envision this potentially happening. So with all now, we don't know what's happening to Rosenstein. We don't know whether Whitaker is going to what's going to happen to him. I mean, he's acting and you can do that under a Federal Vacancies Act for 200 days, but it's only temporary.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I don't know the, I really don't know the answer to that. Let's see what happens with Rosenstein. I mean, so all the interviews that have been done with Mueller, the White House has not invoked privilege on conversations with people who work in the White House”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, that's right. And Rod Rosenstein no longer has authority over Mueller. This happened an hour ago. So does Rod Rosenstein stay? What happens? What happens or has the entire top of the Justice Department been decapitated? I don't think this is just unraveling in real time.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, it would shock me if he didn't have a plan knowing that Jeff Sessions was going to be fired. I think the big question now is what happens to Rod Rosenstein. And because Rod Rosenstein, who is Jeff Sessions number two, is in charge of the Mueller investigation. So if Mueller were to want to subpoena the president or issue his report, it has to go to Rod Rosenstein and get approved.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think he has probably written a report. I think he is a negotiation. I know he's in negotiations with the president's attorneys. They've exchanged written answers to questions about collusion, but I think it's still an open question about whether they might want to subpoena the president if he doesn't want to testify. In person, and I think that is still being negotiated. And I don't know if that's set Donald Trump off. I have no idea. I think Mueller has farmed a lot of stuff out to the Southern District of New York. To other places that he cannot. So you think he's been.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I don't think it's going to be over tomorrow the way a lot of people do, but I think right now it's in jeopardy. I think the Mueller investigation is in jeopardy.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So it's a very demanding parent. It's very demanding and it's very labor intensive. More than a network where you have 22 minutes in the evening, a morning show. Know CNN is a show 24 7, and so it demands more stamina in many ways as a reporter, it demands you to have a greater depth of sourcing because anything happens. For example, I've been on the Russia reporting team and that's been great because I've had to develop different kinds of sources and stretch my muscles in different ways. I'm not an intelligence reporter, but. Knows, I mean, it's been an amazing experience.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, first of all, let me say something. CNN is the most dynamic place I've ever worked. Just look at the day-to-day, you know, or yesterday. We had an election yesterday and today Jeff Sessions is out. And CNN has to be on it every minute.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And because when you do an interview for television, you're thinking of the next question, and how do I make this, the architecture of this interview work? Where there's a beginning, a middle, and an end. And when you're doing it for print, it doesn't really matter. And so it's a very different interviewing, a completely different skill for television than it is for print. And I think more difficult. I think much more difficult because, as you know, it's very difficult to get people to be more honest when the camera's on them.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So there's two different things because I do a lot of long form for CNN. So there's a lot of different ways. When you're just reporting for on air, you're reporting for the next headline. You're on your phone while you're sitting on the set. We all do it. Right. When you're writing a documentary or when you're writing a 10 minute piece, you're thinking about what your pictures are going to be, which is very different, which is, you know, how can I weave this story given what given the pictures that I have, which I never had to think of as a print reporter. I also think in many ways when you do interviews, and you know this yourself, when you do an interview for print, it's very different from when you do an interview for television.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Which was awfully frightening to me. I was so intimidated by Dan. And so I have always thought that it's turned out really strangely because I always thought as I age, well, print will always be there and TV goes away. But it's turned out just the opposite because print isn't always there. I mean, I can write for CNN.com anytime I want. I do. But I never anticipated that the print outlets and now there's digital obviously, but the traditional print outlets that I thought would always be there for me went away. You know, U.S. News is a magazine, but it's a lot about guides, and Newsweek is very different, and newspapers are in trouble and everything else is booming.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, I think what happened is that I was lucky enough that CBS was trying to bring more women on board and needed contributors. And so I went on Face the Nation a couple of times, and Bob Schieffer was nice enough eventually. I became sort of his sidekick on Face the Nation for about five or six years and a contributor to CBS Evening News, sometimes standing out on the porch of the Hay Adams with Dan Rather during Lewinsky.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Ward Circum bought U.S. News, and I had a couple of editors from Newsweek who went over there, and David Gergan went over there, and they hired me there, and it was, you know, it was great. It was a wonderful place to work. And then when Gergan went to the White House, I took over his column at the magazine. We were an underdog, but we did pretty well. Now to think that there were three news magazines? Stunning. It used to, I don't know about for you, but it used to be that I couldn't get through a Sunday night or a Monday without looking at the covers of all three magazines.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“11 years there. I forget how many. So my editors from Newsweek ended up running US News. And oh no, David Gergan hired me actually at US News.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yep, he was. And he was, you know, he had a daily. In his little office, and we'd all go in every day at noon and Tip would speak to the press every single day and he'd make a lot of mistakes. He threw in the towel once on the tax bill that Ronald Reagan wanted, if you'll recall. But I also remember speaking of being a woman when I was pregnant, he'd come in every day and he'd pat my belly and then he'd go sit down at his desk and he'd say, how you doing, Darling? And he was so wonderful. I wouldn't have thought twice about that, right? But he was a very available speaker.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And this is the other thing, which it's getting to know your sources. I mean, I was there, Chief Congressional correspondent, and I would spend my weeks in the lobbies of the chambers pulling members off the floor to talk to them not on the phone, not by text, but one-on-one. Person to person. And I still believe there is nothing that replaces that. And you know how we all do this by shorthand. I'm texting. All the time But there's not that connection that you had when you were sitting in the speaker's lobby every day and actually talking to them. And that's how I got to know Dick Cheney so well when he was head of the House Republican Conference. He was the ideas man, which his daughter is now running for that job. He was a different man when he was in the house, I might add. But members...”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But we used to write Thursday nights, and then it would get sent up to New York, and then they would rewrite it. But it was, you could have a week of reporting.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The star, yes. Well, yes. And I went. Well, the star was bought by Time magazine. And Jim Bellows was fired. And I didn't like that very much. So Joe Albrighton was the owner, and I cried to him in the newsroom saying, how can you fire Jim Bellows? Which was probably not a great move. And I did go to Newsweek. The legendary Male Elfin hired me. Me at Newsweek, and we had an amazing bureau. I mean, that was the Newsweek Bureau and the craft of writing for a news magazine and reporting for a news magazine was an education in itself because it was a luxury because you actually had a week. To do a story. Imagine that.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And we segmented it and we did it anonymously, and it was hilarious. And he had this great idea. So we did that. So we did a little bit of everything. And it was just a great experience to be able to do that, not just come in and say, I'm going to, you know.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Legendary. Legendary. Wonderful. Started a daily soap opera in the newspaper and I was, he picked me as one of the writers. We had seven writers. It became a book called Federal Triangle, not even remaindered anymore. And we wrote it under a pseudonym called Hardy Mums. One of the writers was Diana McClellan, who used to write the ear. Do you remember that? And Maureen was her.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, yeah. And you want to experience it all. And I'm sad that we're so segmented now, even in our digital world. People cover certain things. But the way we grew up covering writing for a newspaper was you did all kinds of things. I mean, my editor of the Washington Star, Jim Bellows.”
2018-11-12 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 285 — Gloria Borger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source