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Graham Hancock

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“Yeah, and there were platforms in place where the pyramids stand. Not the pyramids as we see them today, but the base of those pyramids was already in place at that time.”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But what I do suggest is that there were very low platforms on the Giza Plateau that are much older and that when we look at the three great pyramids, we're looking at a renovation and a restoration and a enhancement of much older structures that had existed on the Giza Plateau for a much longer period before that. Actually, the Great Pyramid is built around a natural hill. And that natural hill might have been seen as the original primeval mound to the ancient Egyptians.”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“With granite. There are granite blocks that are placed on top of the core limestone blocks. And those core limestone blocks were already eroded when the granite blocks were put there. Why? Because the granite blocks have actually been purposefully and deliberately cut to fit into the erosion marks on the, we believe, much older megalithic blocks there. So I think Giza is a very complicated site I would never seek to divorce the dynastic ancient Egyptians from the Great Pyramids. They were closely involved in the construction of the Great Pyramids as we see them today”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You could use astronomical language and megalithic architecture to memorialize that date on the Giza Plateau, which is what we think we're looking at, except for one thing, and that's the erosion patterns on the Sphinx. And we're pretty sure that the Sphinx at least does date back to 12,500 years ago. And with it, the megalithic temples, the so-called Vali temple, which stands just to the east and just to the south of the Sphinx. And the Sphinx Temple, which stands directly in front of the Sphinx. The Sphinx Temple has largely been destroyed, but the Valley Temple attributed to Kafre on no good grounds whatsoever is a huge megalithic construction with blocks of limestone that weigh up to 100 tons each. And yet it has been remodeled, refaced.”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Pyramids and the great sphinx all lock astronomically on the date of around 10,500 BC to me is most unlikely to be an accident. And actually if you look at computer software at the sky at that time, you'll see that the Milky Way is very prominent and seems to be mirrored on the ground by the river Nile. I suggest that may be one of the reasons amongst many why Giza was chosen as the site for this very special place. So the point I want to make is that an astronomical design on the ground which memorializes a very ancient date does not have to have been done 12,500 years ago. From the ancient Egyptian point of view, you're there 4,500 years ago. And there's a time 8,000 years before that, which is very, very, very important to you.”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“headed monument. It wouldn't make sense if you create an equinoctial marker in the time of Kafre, and the Sphinx is an equinoctial marker. I mean, it's 270 feet long and 70 feet high and it's looking directly at the rising sun on the equinox. If you create it then, you would be better likely to create it in the shape of a bull because that was the age of Taurus when the constellation of Taurus housed the sun on the spring equinox. So why is it a lion? And again, we think that's because of that observation of the skies and putting on the ground as above, so below, putting on the ground an image of the sky at a particular time. Now, the fact that the Giza Plateau, it's a fact, of course, that Egyptologists completely dispute, but the fact that the principal monuments of the Giza Plateau, the three great”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“are pretty sure that the Sphinx was originally a lion entirely, and that it over the thousands of years it became damaged, it became eroded, particularly the part of it that sticks out the head. There were periods when the Sphinx was completely covered in sand, but still the head stuck out. By the time you come to the fourth dynasty when the Great Pyramids are supposedly built, by the time you come to the fourth dynasty, the original lion head would have been a complete mess. And we suggest that it was then recarved into a pharaohonic head. Egyptologists think it was the pharaoh. Kafre, but there's no real strong resemblance. But it's definitely wearing the nemesis headdress of an ancient Egyptian pharaoh. And we think that that's a result of a recaving of what was originally not only a lion-bodied, but also a lion.”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And back and back, and you come to around 10,500 BC, 12,500 years ago in the younger Dryas, you find that suddenly they lock perfectly. They match perfectly with the three pyramids on the ground. And that's the same moment that the great sphinx Equinoctial monument aligned perfectly to the rising sun on the spring equinox. Anybody can test this for themselves. Just go to Giza on the 21st of March. Be there before dawn.”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Egyptians called the Iran constellation Sahu, and they recognized it as the celestial image of the god Osiris. So what's being copied on the ground is the belt of a deity, of a celestial deity. It's not just a random constellation. And then when we take procession into account, you find something else very intriguing happening. First of all, you find that the exact orientation of the pyramids as it is today and pretty much as it was when they're supposed to have been built 4,500 years ago, it's not precisely related to how Orion Spellt looked at that time. There's a bit of a twist. They're not quite right. But as you process the stars backwards, as you go back,”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The next person not enough rain to cause that erosion damage on the Sphinx, and the next person who needs to be mentioned in this context is Robert Beauval. Robert and I have co-authored a number of books together. Unfortunately, Robert has been very ill for the last seven years. He's got a very bad chest infection. And I think also that Robert became very demoralized by the attacks of Egyptologists on his work. But Robert is the genius, and it does take a genius sometime to make these connections because nobody noticed it before, that the three pyramids of Giza are laid out on the ground in the pattern of the three stars of Orion's belt. And skeptics will say, well, you can find any buildings and line them up with any stars you want. But Orion actually isn't any old constellation. Orion was the god Osiris in the sky. He was the ancient”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“like to recognise geologists at Boston University, he brought shock to Geyser, and Schock was the first geologist to stick his neck out, risk the riar, the ire of Egyptologists, and say, well, it looks to me like the Sphinx was exposed to at least a thousand years of heavy rainfall, and as Shock's calculations have continued as he's continued to be immersed in this mystery, he's continuously pushed that back, and he's now again looking at the date of around twelve thousand, twelve and a half thousand years ago during the younger Dryas for the creation of the Great Sphinx. And then, of course, this is the period of the Wet Sahara, the humid Sahara. The Sahara was a completely different place during the ice age. There were rivers in it. There were lakes in it. It was fertile. It was possibly densely populated. And there was a lot of rain. There's not no rain in Giza today, but there's relatively little rain.”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, first of all, the astronomy. And here I must pay tribute to two individuals, actually three individuals in particular. One of them is John Anthony West, passed away in 2018. He was the first person in our era to begin to wonder if the Sphinx was much older than it had been. Actually, he got that idea from a philosopher called Schwaller de Lubix, who'd noticed what he thought was water erosion on the body of the Sphinx. John West picked that up and he was a great amateur Egyptologist himself. He spent most of his life in Egypt and he was hugely versed in ancient Egypt. And when he looked at the Sphinx and at the strange scalloped erosion patterns and the vertical fishes, particularly in the trench around the Sphinx, he began to think maybe Schwaller was right. Maybe there was some sort of flooding here. And that's when he brought Robert Shock. Second post I'd like to”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, definitely. And this, again, is where you come to a series of mysteries which are perhaps best expressed on the Giza Plateau in Egypt with the three great pyramids and the extraordinary megalithic temples that many people don't pay much attention to on the Giza Plateau and the Great Sphinx itself. This is an area of particular importance in understanding this issue.”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes. That's about as far as I would take it. And when I say that, as I have said on a number of occasions, that it had technology equivalent to ours in the 18th century, I'm referring specifically to the ability to calculate longitude. I'm not saying that they were building steam engines. I don't see any evidence for that.”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Very, very were made a very, very long time ago. Some of them, I believe, were lightly preserved in the library of Alexandria. I think even then they were being copied and recopied. We don't know exactly what happened to the Library of Alexandria except that it was destroyed. I suggest it's likely this was during the period of the Roman Empire. I suggest it's likely that some of those maps were taken out of the library and taken to Constantinople. And that's where they were liberated during the crusade and entered world culture again and started to be copied and recopied.”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Which says, Oh, those map makers felt that the world needed something underneath it to balance it. So they put a fictional landmass there. I don't think that makes sense. I think somebody was mapping the world during the last ice age. But that doesn't mean that they had our kind of tech. It means that they were following that exploration instinct, that they knew how to navigate. They'd been watching the stars for thousands of years before. They knew how to navigate and they knew how to build seagoing ships. And they explored the world and they mapped the world. Those maps...”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Intriguing because they have very accurate relative longitudes. Civilization did not crack the longitude problem until the mid 18th century with Harrison's chronometer, which was able to keep accurate time at sea. So you could have the time in London and you could have the local time at sea at the same time. And then you could work out your longitude. There might be other ways of working out longitude as well. But there it is. The fact is these Portolanos have extremely accurate relative longitudes. Secondly, some of them show the world to my eye as it looked during the ice age. They show a much extended Indonesia and Malaysian peninsula and the series of islands that make up Indonesia today are all grouped together into one landmass. And that was the case during the ice age. That was the Sunda Shelf. And the presence of Antarctica on some of these maps also puzzles and intrigues me and is not satisfactorily explained, in my view, by archaeology.”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Expect it to be completely different from us, but that it would have achieved certain things. So amongst the clues that intrigue me are those precessional numbers that are found all around the world, and are a category of ancient maps called Portolanos, which suddenly started to appear just after the crusade that entered Constantinople and sacked Constantinople, the Portolanos suddenly start to appear, and they're extremely accurate maps. The most of the ones that have survived are extremely accurate maps of the Mediterranean alone, but some of them show much wider areas. For example, on these Portolano-style maps, you do find a depiction of Antarctica again and again. And another thing that these maps have in common is that many of the mapmakers state that they base their maps on multiple older source maps which have not survived. These maps are”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In a sense, it's not the impact hypothesis that is central to what I'm saying. It's the younger Dryas that's central to what I'm saying. And the younger Dryas required a trigger, something caused it. I think the younger Dryas impact hypothesis, the notion that we're looking at a debris stream of a fragmenting comet, and we can still see that debris stream because it's still up there and we still pass through it twice a year is the best explanation. But I don't mind other explanations. It's good that there are other explanations. The younger Dryas is a big mystery, and it's not a mystery that's been solved yet. And that word advanced civilization, this is another word that is easily misunderstood, and I've tried to make clear many, many times that when we consider the possibility of something like a civilization in the past, we shouldn't imagine that it's us, that it's something like us.”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's a hypothesis that has its opponents. And even within those of us who are looking at the alternative side of history, there are different points of view. Robert Schock from Boston University, a geologist who demonstrated that the erosion on the Sphinx may well have been caused by exposure to a long period of very heavy rainfall. He doesn't go for the younger Dryus impact hypothesis. fully accepts that the younger Dryas was a global cataclysm and that the extinctions took place but he thinks it was caused by some kind of massive solar outburst so what everybody's agreed on is the younger Dryus was bad but there is dispute about what caused it I personally have found the younger Dryus impact hypothesis to be the most persuasive which most effectively explains all the evidence”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In that area would not have been very impressed by what they saw happening, by these massive explosions in the sky and the obliteration of Abu Huraira. Now, this is a theory. The Younger Dryas impact, it's a hypothesis, actually. It's not even a theory. A theory is, I think, considered a higher level than a hypothesis. That's why it's the younger dryass impact hypothesis. And of course, it has many opponents, and there are many who disagree with it. And there have been a series of peer-reviewed papers that have been published supposedly debunking the younger Dryas impact hypothesis. One I think was in 2011. It was called a requiem for the younger Dryas impact hypothesis. And there's one just been published a few months ago or a year ago, you know, called a complete refutation of the younger Dryas impact hypothesis, something like that, some lengthy title.”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“sudden, otherwise unexplained flood of melt water that went into the world ocean and caused the cooling that then took place. But this was a disaster for life all over the planet. And it's interesting that one of the sites where they find the younger Dryas boundary and where they find overwhelming evidence of an airburst and where they find all the shocked quartz, the carbon microspherials, the nanodiamonds, the Trinitite and so on and so forth, all of those impact proxies are found at Abu Hurrera. That was a settlement within 150 miles of Gobekli Tepi and it was hit 12,800 years ago and it was obliterated. Interestingly, it was reinhabited by human beings within probably five years, but it was completely obliterated at that time. It's difficult to imagine that the people who live”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Place on the thirtieth of june nineteen eight, the Tunguska event was nobody disputes, it was definitely an airburst of a cometary fragment. And the date is interesting because the 30th of June is the height of the beta Taurids. It's one of the two times when the Earth is going through the Taurid meteor stream. Well, luckily that part of Siberia wasn't inhabited, but 2,000 square miles of forest were destroyed. If that had happened over a major city, we would all be thinking very hard about objects out of the torid meteor stream and about the risk of cosmic impact. So the suggestion is that it wasn't one impact, it wasn't two impacts, it wasn't three impacts, it was hundreds of airbursts all around the planet coupled with a number of bigger objects, which the scientists working on this think hit the North American ice cap largely. Some of them may also have hit the Northian ice cap, resulting in that”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Break into pieces as it passed through that its debris stream became larger and larger and wider and wider, and the theory is that twelve thousand eight hundred years ago the Earth passed through a particularly dense part of the torid meteor stream and was hit by multiple impacts all around the planet, certainly from the west of North America as far east as Syria. And that we are by and large not talking about impacts that would have caused craters, although there certainly were some we're talking about airbursts when an object is 100 or 150 meters in diameter and it's coming in very fast into the Earth's atmosphere, it is very unlikely to reach the Earth. It's going to blow up in the sky. And the best known recent example of that is the Tunguska event in Siberia, which took”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Which the Earth still passes through twice a year. It's now about thirty million kilometers wide, takes the earth a couple of days to pass through it on its orbit, it passed through it in June, and it passes through it at the end of October. The suggestion is that the torid meteor stream is the end product of a very large comet that entered the solar system around about 20,000 years ago, came in from the Oort cloud, got trapped by the gravity of the sun, and went into orbit around the Sun, an orbit that crossed the orbit of the Earth. However, when it was one object, the likelihood of a collision with the Earth was extremely small. But as it started to do what all comets do, which was to break up into multiple fragments, because these are chunks of rock held together by ice, and as they warm up, they split and disintegrate.”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The hypothesis, of course, is broader than that. Amongst the scientists working on it are, for example, Bill Napier, an astrophysicist, an astronomer. They have assembled a great deal of evidence which suggests that the culprit in the younger Dryas impact Event or event.”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The abrupt cessation of the global meridional overturning circulation, of which the Gulf Stream is the best-known part, the main theory that's been put forward up to now, and I don't dispute that theory at all, is that the sudden freeze was caused by the cutting off of the Gulf Stream, basically, which is part of the central heating system of our planet. So no wonder it became cold. But what's not really been addressed before is why that happened, why the Gulf Stream was cut, why a sudden pulse of meltwater went into the world ocean and it was so much of it and it was so cold that it actually stopped the Gulf Stream in its tracks. That's where the Young Adrias impact hypothesis offers a very elegant and very satisfactory solution to the problem.”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Into a freeze, you would not expect sea levels to rise, but there is a sea level rise, a sudden one, right at the beginning of the younger dryers. And then you have this long, frozen period from 12,800 to 11,600 years ago. And then equally dramatically and equally suddenly, the younger dryas comes to an end and the world very rapidly warms up and you have a recognized pulse of meltwater at that time as the last of the glaciers collapse into the sea called meltwater pulse 1b around about 11,600 years ago. So this is a period which is very tightly defined. It's a period when we know that human populations were grievously disturbed. That's when the so-called Clovis culture of North America vanished entirely from the record during the Young Adrias. And it's the time when the mammoths and the sabre-toothed tigers vanished from the”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“People started to say, yeah, they have to be right. But they weren't relying on the crater. They were relying on the impact proxies. And they're the same impact proxies that we find in what's called the younger Dryas boundary layer all around the world. So it's the fact that at the moment when the Earth tips into a radical climate shift, it's been warming up for at least 2,000 years before 12,800 years ago. People at the time must have been feeling a great sense of relief. We've been living through this really cold time, but it's getting better. Things are getting better. And then suddenly around 12,800 years ago, some might say 12,860 years ago, there's a massive global plunge in global temperatures. And the world suddenly gets as cold as it was at the peak of the ice age. And it's almost literally overnight. It's very, very, very rapid. Normally in an epoch when the earth is going”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Has revealed the sides of the drawer, and you can see the cross section. And in the cross section is this distinct dark layer that runs through the earth. And it contains evidence of wildfires. There's a lot of soot in it. There are also nanodiamonds in it. There is shocked quartz in it. There is quartz that's been melted at temperatures in excess of two thousand two hundred degrees centigrade. There are carbon microspheres. All of these are proxies for some kind of cosmic impact. I talk a moment ago about the extinction of the dinosaurs. Lewis and Walter Arvarez, who made that incredible discovery, initially their discovery was based entirely on impact proxies, just as the younger Dryuses. There was no crater, and for a long time they were disbelieved because they couldn't produce a crater. But when they finally did produce that deeply buried chick's globe crater, that's when...”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, the younger Dryas impact hypothesis, YDIH for short, is not a lunatic fringe theory, as its opponents often attempt to write it off. It's the work of more than 60 major scientists working across many different disciplines, including archaeology and including oceanography as well. They are collectively puzzled by the sudden onset of the younger Dryas and by the fact that it is accompanied 12,800 years ago by a distinct lair in the earth. You can see it most clearly at Murray Springs in Arizona, for example. You can see it's about the width of a human hand. And there's a draw there that's been cut by flash flooding at some time.”
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“To say that it was that it affected the whole world. I'm not persuaded by that, particularly since we know there was a nasty epoch, the younger Dryas, when flooding did occur and when the earth was subjected to events, cataclysmic enough to extinguish entirely the megafauna of the ice age.”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It definitely involved the swallowing up of lands that previously had been above water, and I think it's an excellent candidate for this worldwide tradition of a global cataclysm of which one of, but not the only, distinguishing characteristics was a flood, an enormous flood, and the submergence of lands that had previously been above water underwater. The fact that this story is found all around the world suggests to me that the archaeological explanation is look, people suffer local floods all the time. I mean, as we're talking, there's flooding in Florida. But I don't think anybody in Florida is going to make the mistake of believing that that's a global flood. They know it's local. But that's the argument largely of archaeology dealing with the flood myths, or that some local population experienced a nasty local flooding event, and they decided.”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I take them very seriously. And the other many reasons, but I can't help being deeply impressed and deeply puzzled by the worldwide tradition of a global cataclysm within human memory. I mean, we know that scientifically that there have been many, many cataclysms in the past going back millions of years. I mean, the best-known one, of course, is the KPG event, as it's now called, that made the dinosaurs extinct 65 million or 66 million years ago. But has there been such a cataclysm in the lifetime of the human species? Yeah, the Mount Toba eruption about 70,000 years ago was pretty bad, but a global cataclysm, the younger Dryas really ticks all the boxes as a worldwide disaster, which definitely involved sea level rise, both at the beginning and at the end of the younger dryas.”
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“To set them into context. And actually, that's a very interesting point. And we do know that cultures that still do have oral traditions are able to preserve information for very long periods of time. One thing I think is clear in any time, in any period of history, is human beings love stories. We love great stories. And one way to preserve information is to encode it, embed it in a great story. And so carefully done that actually it doesn't matter whether the storyteller knows that they're passing on that information or not. The story itself is the vehicle. And as long as it's repeated faithfully, the information contained within it will be passed on. And I do think this is part of the story of the preservation of knowledge.”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Let's not underestimate oral traditions. Oral traditions, that's something we've lost in our culture today. One of the things that happens with the written word is that you gradually lose your memory. Actually, there's a nice story from ancient Egypt about the god Thoth, the god of wisdom, who is very proud of himself because he has invented writing. Look at this gift, he says to a mythical pharaoh of that time. Look at the gift that I am giving humanity, writing this is a wonderful thing. It'll enable you to preserve so much that you would otherwise lose, and the pharaoh in this story replies to him no, you have not given us a wonderful gift. You have destroyed the art of memory. We will forget everything. Words will roam free around the world, not accompanied by any wise advice”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was an ever present reality And it was bright, and it was brilliant, and it was full of lights. It's inconceivable that the engines would not have paid attention to it. It was an overwhelming presence. And that's one of the reasons why I'm really confident that the constellations that we now recognize as the constellations of the zodiac were recognized much earlier because it's hard to miss when you pay attention to the sky that the sun over the course of the solar year is month by month rising against the background of different constellations and then there's a much longer process, the process of precession which takes that journey backwards and where we have a period of 2160 years for each sign of the zodiac. I think it would have been hard for the ancients to have missed that. They might not have identified the constellations in exactly the same way we do today. That may well be a Babylonian or Greek convention, but that the constellations were there, I think, was very clear and that they were special constellations unlike other ones higher up in the sky, which were not.”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“on both sides sculpted figures which are holding the body of a serpent. That serpent is Vazuki and what they're doing is they're churning the Milky Ocean. It's the same metaphor of churning and churning that's defined in the story of Hamlet's Mill of Amlodi's Mill. There are 54 on each side, 54 plus 54 is 108, 108 is 72 plus 36. It's a precessional number according to the work that Santigana and Van Deshen did. And the fascination with this number system and its discovery all around the world is one of the puzzles that intrigued me and suggest to me that we are looking at ancestral knowledge that was passed down and probably was passed down from a specific single common source at one time, but then was spread out very, very widely around the world.”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Some ancient culture, the culture that Santidiana and Vondeshen call some almost unbelievable ancestor culture. Worked out the entire process of procession, and Selected the key numbers of procession, of which the most important number, the governing number, is the number 72. But we also have numbers related to the number 72. 72 plus 36 is 108. 108 divided by 2 is 54. These numbers are also found in mythology all around the world. There were 72 conspirators who were involved in killing the god Osiris in ancient Egypt and nailing him up in a wooden coffer and dumping him in the Nile. There are 432,000 in the Rig Vesa, 432,000 is a multiple of 72. And at Angkor in Cambodia, for example, you have the bridge to Angkor Tom. And on that bridge, you have figures.”
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“On and so forth, it's backwards through the zodiac until 12,500 years ago you come to. Now, this process unfolds very, very, very, very slowly. The whole cycle, and it is a cycle, it repeats itself roughly every twenty-six thousand years. Put a more exact figure on it, 25,920 years. That may be a convention, some scholars would say it was a bit less than that, a bit more, but you're talking fractions. It's in that area, $25,920 years. And to observe it, you really need more than one human lifetime because it unfolds very, very slowly at a rate of one degree every 72 years. And the parallel that I often give is hold your finger up to the horizon, the distant horizon. The movement in one lifetime in a period of 72 years is about the width of your finger. It's not impossible to notice in a lifetime, but it's difficult. You've got to pass it on. And what seems to have happened is that”
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“Today we live in the age of Pisces. And it's definitely not an accident that the early Christians used the fish as their symbol. This is another area where I differ from archaeology. I think the constellations of the zodiac were recognized as such much earlier than we suppose. Anyway, to get to the point, the key marker of the year, certainly in the northern hemisphere, was the spring equinox. The question was, what constellation is rising behind the sun? What constellation is housing the sun at dawn on the spring equinox? Right now it's Pisces. In another 150 years or so, it'll be Aquarius. We do live in the dawning of the age of Aquarius. Back in the time of the late ancient Egyptians, it was Ares, going back to the time of Ramesses or before. Before that, it was Taurus.”
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“Have occupied the pole position. And sometimes the extended north pole of the Earth points at empty space. There is no pole star. That's one of the obvious results of the wobble on the Earth's axis. The other one is that there are 12 well-known constellations in our time, the 12 constellations of the zodiac, that lie along what is referred to as the path of the sun. The Earth is orbiting the sun. We are seeing what's behind what's in direct line with the Sun in our view. And the zodiacal constellations all lie along the path of the sun. So at different times of the year, the sun will rise against the background of a particular zodiacal constellation.”
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“That and they do actually trace it. I think I'm quoting them pretty much correctly, to some almost unbelievable ancestor civilization. Reading that book was one of the several reasons that I got into mystery in the first place. Okay, now the precession of the equinoxes, to give it its full name, results from the fact that our planet is the viewing platform from which we observe the stars. And our planet, of course, is rotating on its own axis at roughly 1,000 miles an hour at the equator. But what's less obvious is that it's also wobbling on its axis. So if you imagine the extended north pole of the Earth pointing up at the sky, in our time it's pointing at the star polaris, and that is our pole star. But Polaris has not always been the pole star precisely because of this wobble on the axis of the Earth.”
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“Tribute to the work of Giorgio de Santiliana and Herthavon Deshand. Giorgio de Santeliana was professor of history of science actually at MIT, where you're based back in the 60s. And Herthew von Deschend was professor of the history of science at Frankfurt University. And they wrote an immense book in the 1960s called Hamlet's Mill. And Hamlet's Mill differs very strongly from established opinion on the issue of the phenomenon of pre-session and I'll explain what precession is in a moment. Generally, it's held that it was the Greeks who discovered the precession. And the dating on that is put back not very far, maybe 2,300 years ago or so. Santiliana and Vondeshend are pointing out that knowledge of procession is much, much older than that, thousands of years older than that.”
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“Remote common source would explain both the similarities and the differences in the expression of these ideas. The other thing, very puzzling thing is this sequence of numbers that are a result of the precession of the equinoxes. At least I think that's the best theory to explain them. Here, I think it's important to...”
2024-10-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #449 – Graham Hancock: Lost Civilization of the Ice Age & Ancient Human History · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Decide that what happens to the soul after death is that it makes a leap to the heavens, to the Milky Way, that it makes a journey along the Milky Way, that there it is confronted by challenges, by monsters, by closed gates, the course of the life that that person has lived will determine their destiny in that afterlife journey. And this idea, the path of souls, the Milky Way is called the path of souls. It's very strongly found in the Americas, right from South America through Mexico, through into North America, but is also found in ancient Egypt, in ancient India, in ancient Mesopotamia, the same idea. And I don't feel that that can be a coincidence. I feel that what we're looking at is an inheritance of an idea, a legacy that's been passed down from a remote common source to cultures all around the world and then has taken on a life of its own within those cultures.”
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“Cultures that are geographically distant from one another and that are also distant from one another in time. They don't necessarily occur at the same time. And this is where I think that archaeology is perhaps desperately needing a history of ideas as well as just a history of things because an idea can manifest again and again throughout the human story. So there are particular issues. For example, the notion of the afterlife destiny of the soul, what happens to us when we die. And believe me when you reach my age, that's something you do think about what happens. I used to feel immortal when I was in my 40s, but now that I'm 74, I definitely know that I'm not. Well, it would be natural for human beings all around the world to have that same feeling, that same idea. But why would they all...”
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“That's the first big question. Why did it take so long? And that raises in my mind a hypothesis, a possibility. Maybe it didn't take so long. Maybe things were happening that we haven't yet got hold of in the archaeological record, which await to be discovered. And of course, there are huge parts of the world that have not been studied at all by archaeology. But the fact that huge parts of the world have not been studied at all by archaeology is not on its own enough to suggest that we're missing a chapter in the human story. The reason that I come to that isn't only puzzlement about that 300,000 year gap. It's also to do with the fact that there's common iconography, there's common myths and traditions, and there's common spiritual ideas that are found all around the world. And they're found amongst”
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“I think there is an urge to find out what's around the next corner, what's over the brow of the next hill. And I think that goes very deep into human character. And I think it was being manifested in those early adventures of people who left Africa and traveled all around the world and then settling in different parts of the world. I think a lot of anatomically modern human evolution took place outside Africa as well, not only in Africa.”
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“This is the out of Africa theory. I think it's more than a theory. It's really strongly evidenced. Why? Because we're part of the great ape family and it's an African family. There's no doubt that human beings are deep origins are in Africa. But then, as you rightly say, there were these very early migrations out of Africa by species that are likely ancestral to anatomically modern humans, including definitely Homo erectus and the astonishingly distant travels that they undertook. Yes, I think there is an urge to explore in all of them.”
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