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“Yes, it's one of my countrymen who lived before the war, he lived in England. His name was George Mikash, and he wrote some very funny books, and perhaps his funniest was called How to Be an Alien. This is for foreigners who came to England to get used to the life in England. But it's funny, said”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, I would like to return to Bartok. And I would like to hear the music for strings and chalesta and percussion performed by my great friends and partners in life with the Franz Chamber Orchestra of Hungary.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not professionally, but they both, you know, they love music and they play some instruments one play the violin, she played the piano even today. And even my grandchildren, but neither of them I think have this special talent which I think you have to have. It's a difficult profession and I am not sorry”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, it's the music. I mean, a family is there, and I know if I want to be with them, of course, they are there, but music is through my teaching, through listening to music. You have done it all your life. It's just in inside you. So, of course, it has to be music.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No. The honest answer is no. You know, I spend all my life performing travelling, practising, rehearsing, and I made a plan that around when I will be seventy, I was planning to retire from performing, and in fact it was with Ivan Fisher, my last concert in Hungary with a Bartoqualin concerto, and I wanted to make my last concert where I started, and Ivan knew. He knew that it's one of my favorite operas, and he made a speech after my performance, and without me knowing and seeing there were three singers coming into the stage. And then he started with this E major chord because trio and I started to cry. And it was just so emotional that I always wanted to have it with me.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, my next choice is again back to opera and again back to Mozart. I heard the Glimber performances Cosi, and I would love to have the trio from the first act of Cosifante.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Of course not. Apparently, Susie tells me that I became white. I almost fainted from the surprise and a joy. It's one of the great studivors. It's the Joseph Massart Stradivar, which is called Because in the nineteenth century it belonged to the great French violins called Joseph Massard. So I used it for quite a few years and four or five years, but it was a bad feeling for me. I felt what if he asked back. So I asked him very gently, would you mind if you could sell it to me? And after a little bit of thinking he said okay, all right So I'm the proud owner of this beautiful beautiful violin which I'm all my life you know I used for thirty five years.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, what happened that after one of my concerts in Chicago a gentleman came into the artist room and introduced himself There are always these crazy people, you know, who like to collect violins or pictures or whatever because they are their love, but they are not able to play on them or very badly. So this dear man came to the room and asked, would you like to see my violence? I would like to play on them. I agreed. So he came to the hotel and he brought, I think, four of his violins, which I think were two strads, study various and two guanarius. So I started to play on and he enjoyed it, and as you pleased with a little bit more on this and this, and after a few hours it must have been three hours, and Susie was with me in the room. He suddenly turned to me, well, which one do you like? What is your opinion? I said, They are wonderful.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's the continuation of your arm. I mean, the violin should be the continuation of your arm, and these great instruments are very difficult to get. What's the greatest suspicion?”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Now we are returning to Opera, and one of the greatest operas, I think, which are written is by Verdi is the Otello. And I would like to have the opening scene from Ottelo.”
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“I miss them very much them and in a little bit even now today I've got a bad feeling that perhaps I wasn't a good father because I wasn't here. And plus all the time practicing and so I really didn't spend enough time with my children, but luckily that was as compensated.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was my wife. She brought up the children, so very often she was alone, and I was travelling. For the first few years, you know, all these big tours I was alone, and it was not easy. But I knew that my children are in good hands, and that was a good feeling.”
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“Yes, that's because I lost my family. That was my main aim to bring up a new family because family for me, apart from music, is my second most important thing in life. So we managed to have two wonderful kids and four grandchildren.”
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“Yes. After Paris some of my friends lived in Holland and they'll come to Holland it's a wonderful country and one of the Dutch orchestras was looking for a concert master, a half job and I went over to Holland and I got the job which was wonderful for me They gave me a lot of opportunities to perform. As it happened my friends who invited me met Susie and she came over that was fifty one years ago.”
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“Well, as it happens, you know, apart from classical music, I love jazz. And I heard a wonderfully talented Canadian lady who plays the piano and also sings, and her name is Diana Krawl. And I would like to take one of her songs with me to the desert island.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Seventeen years. As I said, I was afraid to go back. By that time communism wasn't communism, but it was still not 89. But a friend of mine, a great pianist Annie Fisher, persuaded, please come, you have to come and play again in Hungary because we want to hear you. But I must say that my first visit to Hungary was very difficult. Home for me is England. So when I went to Hungary I went to visit the country where I was”
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“Yes, I did. We had a lot to talk about, you know, the good old days. And it was a great, great musician, a great conductor. I mean, ten years ago that he died. We are missing him so much”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I saw him very often in his house, and I tell you a little secret that we were watching together much of the day, and he was just another Hungarian who was interested in football like I was, but as soon as the maid or anybody came into the room he became the maestro. He behaved totally differently.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I found him very easy. Did you? But I know this story that he was called a screaming skull, you know, especially in his earlier years when he was younger. Nowadays perhaps it wouldn't be tolerated. But we were such a big star, so”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Ah, he was the music director of Covent Garden, of course, and I met a man here whose name was Nikola Seckers, who was then chairman of the London Philomenic Orchestra, director of the Mozart players, and he heard me and liked very much my playing and tried to bring me together with George Shorty, who also he knew. And so this is how I met him and we played many, many times. So I became quite friendly with him also privately, not just musically. Oh.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Number four, well, Bartok, of course, for a Hungarian musician is another Bible all my life. I played Bartok and I interpreted Bartok, I taught Bartok. I was again very lucky because my professor, Zatoretsky, he played with Bartok. And one of my favorite early operas is the Blubid Castle, and I would like to have a scene from that.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Very, very, very difficult and I was on my own. But you are young and you are twenty two years old and you are an optimist and in nineteen fifty six revolution two hundred thousand Hungarians left the country. So I kept in touch with them.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not only I was afraid they did, but I went to Paris, and as soon as I asked for political asylum and the authorities in Hungary, of course they knew it immediately, and they took away her telephone. I wasn't able to write to her letters because it was all censored. They were very, very angry So for many, many years, in fact, for seventeen years, I didn't go back to Hungary. First I didn't want to, and secondly I didn't dare to.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No I didn't dare to because she loved me so much and I was her life, and I was afraid she would do something to not to let I shouldn't be able to go.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I wasn't. I was coward. Because, you know, what I went through during the war, all the shooting and the tanks and the aeroplanes, I just was afraid.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, they helped me to put it in a bank. But I suppose to give all the money back to the state. Luckily the revolution broke out and then this question never arrived.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Apparently I arrived the day before the Hungarian Revolution broke out. Of course, it was totally unexpected. And in a way, it was lucky for me because I won quite a big prize money-wise. I think it was about $3,000, which in those years it was a lot of money. But I was advised to keep at least half of the money in Italy, which I did.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“She literally did it and then sometimes I cheated her and myself, because I was playing, but I was reading some sports magazines. Every naughty boy does.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, what's that is my other love and one of my favourite instruments are the woodwind instruments. And I would like to have the Adagio from the Serenate for thirteen wind instruments. I had a very close relationship with the Chamber of Guards of Europe, and therefore I would like them to play it for us.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, it was terrible. I mean, I can only remember that the year when Stalin died in nineteen fifty three, suddenly became a little bit easier, but up till then, I mean we were not allowed to say anything even within our own apartment because we were afraid that somebody hears it and gives you over to the police”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I continued with my violin playing, and it was discovered quite soon that I had musical talent, and I was helped by the communist regime. As it happened, you know, in the same house where we lived there was the most famous violin teacher for little children. She lived in the same house. So I had such a musical education. I acquired the most perfect technical know how from this lady.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“While I was in the ghetto, as I told you before, and suddenly it was just we were free, and we could leave this apartment in the Jewish quarter of our Buddhapes where we were forty, fifty people in a small apartment, without food, without heating, without anything.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Explain that story to me. Well, of course, I didn't know him personally, but we all knew that there is a Swedish young Swedish diplomat in Hungary who was giving out letters to Jews. We would be under the protection of the Swedish government. And this was, I understand, which saved about sixty seventy thousand Jews.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I can remember the following hunger, fear and I was always cold, but mainly hunger and fear, and this stayed with me so much all my life that all the time when I was staying in the best hotels in the world I always made sure that I had some food with me. I didn't eat it, I didn't touch it, but it was such a fear and such a feeling that I might go hungry, that I always had some extra food with me.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I did, but I didn't know about it. I was playing with the Liverpool orchestra and Simon's father told me that they came to the artist room and asked for my autograph. and he showed at one of our concerts together in Birmingham he showed me and said My God, am I so old?”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, Simon Rattle is, I think, one of the greatest living English musicians, and I have known him since he was 20 years old, of course, later in life we played countless of times.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The second disc is Genbach Well is the eternal father of music, and what I would like to hear is opening chorus of the San Matthew passion.”
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“Yes, I did, of course, and therefore, you know, it was so difficult for me to leave Hungary because I knew that I'm going to leave her. That was very difficult for me.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, she was a very sweet lady. And she was still alive when I came to England, so she came to visit me. This profession is not possible without practicing, and she was very careful and very strict with me that I have to practice the four or five hours a day. She locked the door that I have to practice.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I can only remember when one day, and that was already in 1944, my mother was still alive, that the postman came and brought my father's papers, and my mother started to scream, and she knew and of course I knew that this meant that my father died.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, my father and mother unfortunately and this Musg psychological in my mind I don't remember my parents. which hurts me very much because I lost my father was in the labor camp from when I was four years old so I have not seen him ever since and after that my mother was taken away then I just don't remember and I'm sure they loved me very much but I don't remember anything I don't remember their physical signs how they kissed me or they stroked me and that pains me very much”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This is one of my favorite young artists who I have known for about 12 years when she was 14 years old. I was giving some master classes in Switzerland and she started to play and I've never forgotten this incredible communication. The talent was just unbelievable”
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“This particular movement I played countless of times because I feel that it's sort of quiet and it settles down the nerves and”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My first disc is Bach well, for a violinist the Baksonatas are like a Bible. You are always thinking about and playing Bach. So I would like to have the Andante from the second sonata in A minor.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, I did. So this was the first time I was able to come to the west, and I felt that music is international, and I cannot live in a prison.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But was the very thing in your hands? You know, when you are 20 years old, you are not thinking this kind of things. You are optimists.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, you did. Well, Paganini was born in Geneva, and his violin is in the museum there. And every winner is allowed to play on that violin one concert.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Unfortunately not, I was totally alone, and after playing the gala concert, which every winner has to do on Paganini's violin, I immediately had to return to Hungary because I was ordered to.”
2010-05-30 · Desert Island Discs · Gyorgy Pauk · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, it was a miracle, because I arrived to Italy actually late. I didn't have my papers in order, and the jury came together after the first round and especially came together just to listen to me.”
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“Well it's my first big Australian tour in nineteen sixty five. They constantly asked me how to pronounce my name and every time they mispronounce it. So finally the announcer said we are going to call you Gregory Penn and that's it. So I said fine.”
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