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“So that's a pretty frightening thing to have happened. And then I was filming this piece about it. And I remember talking to this gynecologist turned toad venom shaman. And I was saying, you know, I really have some reservations about this, to be honest with you, because, you know, this friend of a friend very recently died. And the fact that that happened, it's frightening to me. And he was saying, oh, yes, how so terrible, just terrible. And no one ever would have expected it to happen to him because, of course, he was the son of a shaman. And I was saying, oh, I didn't realize he was the son of a shaman. That's interesting. And he was saying, oh, you're talking about the recent death in Brazil. And I was saying, no, no, no, this is the recent death in Colorado. There are multiple recent deaths. And so...”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's true. That is true. Yeah. So minimizing uncertainty, I think, is really important. But then some of these things are more challenging in five MEODMT is an example of that. It has an ability to really frighten people. There's some people that only have these negativeness. And when I was using it most recently, there's a chemist Casey Hardison, who's a friend of mine And he had gone out drinking with a friend of his, and after drinking a little bit, they decided to smoke five MEO DMT together. And they both smoked it at the same time, which is something that you shouldn't do. You want somebody watching over you. And they both dissociated because it has a sort of dissociative character. And when my friend Casey came back, his friend was dead. asphyxiated on his vomit while he was in this state and there was no one watching him.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Been a product of uncertainty and inadequate preparation. I would say that the negative experiences that I have had after carefully measuring doses have typically been Because I did have that ability to fall back on, I took 1.4 milligrams. Previously I'd taken one. This is not going to be that much stronger. I'm going to be okay. This will be, it was over four hours last time. It's going to be over four hours this time.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And if it isn't pure, I don't know anything about the toxicity of those impurities. But even if it is pure and doesn't have toxic impurities, I don't know the dose that I consumed. I could have maybe consumed an overdose. And, you know, just going on and on and on, all the branching uncertainty about safety and purity and potency and dose. And I was fine, actually. And actually ended up having a good experience, but it just made me think, You don't want to go down the fractal of uncertainty road. You don't want to minimize the uncertainty as much as you can because your own mind is already infinitely uncertain. So why not at least know that you've consumed your 144 and know that you've consumed one milligram so you can at least rest on that foundation. The negative experiences that I've had have almost always”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Then I was thinking well even if it is you are one hundred forty four, I don't know anything about you R one hundred forty four I don't know if it has toxic metabolites, I don't know if it is carcinogenic I don't know if it has any form of toxicity But even if it didn't have those things I don't know if this is pure UR144”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, yeah, I suppose we should maybe give it a little give it a little try, but I didn't have a scale, and typically I would never use a drug without a scale, but I thought, okay, this has been used by people before. There's a little bit of information on it. I'll take one grain of this granular crystal and I'll smoke it. So I smoked a grain and he smoked a grain and we were both sitting in our hotel room and starting to get very, very high. As I got more and more high I started experiencing this fractal of uncertainty where I was thinking. I don't know if this is UR 144”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I had one interesting experience many years ago where I've been to China for undercover reporting three times. And the first time I did it, it was maybe 2012, something like that. And I was going undercover to a lab that was producing a synthetic cannabinoid called UR144, which has a cool structure. I went to the lab, interviewed the chemists, and they gave me a sample of the UR 144. So then I was back at my hotel room with my cameraman, who has Crohn's disease and loves to be stoned. He's stoned all the time. And it helps him with Crohn's, but also he just loves to be stoned. And so he was saying, you know, should we try out this UR-144, this synthetic cannabinoid? And I thought well”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But you can't use it from a plant. That's the wrong way. You don't want to go down Tell people what is right and what is wrong. So if people want to smoke 5MEO DMT with a cocky attitude, be my guest. But it's really, Anything that I say, it's just in an effort to Minimize any harm that could come from these substances because it is a very serious experience and it could be difficult.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Probably not the best approach. But that's the other thing is I've had to cultivate a really laissez-faire attitude toward a lot of things to do my show effectively. If you're going to be a journalist and you're going to interview people, you can't constantly be telling them what's right and what's wrong. And there's a lot of moralism and there's a lot of psychedelic prescriptivism in the community. People love to say you're doing it wrong. You're doing it. You're not serious enough. You're just trying to get high. It's not respectful. It's not traditional. It's abuse. And I really hate to see that. I think that's one of the worst things that somebody can do because ultimately if you do that, you're just aping the government's same mistakes of setting up these rules of right and wrong ways to use drugs. If it's prescribed by a doctor and it's since”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then it's a bad attitude. You don't want to enter any experience with that attitude because what good could possibly come of that? So it's It's good to. Take things seriously. You don't want to be afraid, but it's a serious experience. I mean, it's, I would say it's no less serious than being reborn. So if you want to be reborn with a angry, cocky, confrontational attitude, then go for it.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, you know, it's hard to say because That's a great example. And I've seen that outside of my film work. I've seen someone who had a very cocky attitude approach 5MEO DMT is like, I've done a 10 strip, dude. I've done 10 strip.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You don't want to hold it in your mouth. It's what probably 95% ethanol. I lost the ability to taste for several days after doing that. It was actually maybe one of the most damaging things I did in the entire show was holding the Florida water in my mouth, Florida.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The Mushroom Episode The Salvia episode from season one both have that and The San Pedro episode from season two is a pretty in-depth analysis with actually no voiceover though. It had a different format from the other episodes, but it's a view of cactus shamanism in Peru that I think gives you an appreciation for the medical context in the community that this really is, this is so different from what you would think of when you would hear this guy gives people masculine every night you know these are people that are treating him exactly the same way you would treat a doctor in the United States just I have epilepsy I have a sprained ankle”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think people like the episodes that detail shamanism. I think people are very interested in shamanism partially because it's non-technical, but because it's such a foreign idea that you could have a spiritual tradition based around drug consumption and that it's so non-taboo that people do it with their families and they do it to heal. They've just never seen anything like that before. And I hadn't either until I saw it myself.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Probably a clandestine chemist's tale or the lazy lizard school of hedonism episode about this chemist who operated an MDMA lab in the center of a volcano”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I'm probably the worst person to ask because the things that I like in my own work are always the things that are the most obscure that no one has ever done. But that's from my own perspective. Whereas I think the mushroom episode that I did was the most successful of them all. So that's probably, I guess that's the people speaking. They like that one the most. That wouldn't be the first one I would recommend, but people want to learn about mushrooms.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And there is no pause for a 10 minute explanation of the term. It's just provided in context, but it is Sophisticated. It's a sophisticated show, but still very entertaining to watch. For someone who is a non-scientist, let's just say that.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“A total synthesis of quailed and also we did a little bit of a drug called gaboxidol, got a little bit into LSD chemistry. I mean, there's a lot of chemistry. I would say that drugs aside, there's probably more hardcore chemistry in this TV show than there has ever been in any TV show ever. If anyone can find, I would be astonished if that's not the case, which is cool. I mean, I think it's great because people find it interesting and I get so many emails from people saying that they find chemistry interesting for the first time. And the way to do it wasn't to simplify it. It was to show people how complicated it is. It's not only not dumb down, but I love that routinely in these episodes, and I'd like to think of myself as a reasonably well-read guy, but I haven't taken much chemistry, and you'll go through a number of different diagrams or certain words will come up.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“People to have home labs partially. That's one of the ideas that I was trying to communicate. It's also about clandestine MDMA synthesis and features, the first ever televised total synthesis of MDMA. And it's real. That's what you see is a real synthesis of MDMA. So just amazingness of even capturing that on film is something that I think is cool for almost anyone who really wants to see this is where it comes from. This is how it's done. We start with, not we. I didn't, but the chemist starts with crude sassafras root bark oil and takes it all the way down to the recrystallized MDMA hydrochloride over the course of five days. And I was just kind of blown away by watching that process. And I also televised.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But Hamilton's pharmacopoeia. Don't worry about the spelling. Just search Hamilton on your favorite provider and you'll find the show. I watched it on Amazon Prime. You can watch it anywhere or many, many, many different places. Which episode might you suggest? And I'm going to give you a few different profiles, a scientist start with. And I know that's really broad, but let's just say somebody who would consider themselves or who is professionally a scientist. It depends on what there's an episode from this most recent season called a clandestine chemist's tale, and that's about how the war on drugs has made it more difficult for”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“From being on the opposite side, from being interviewed and profiled by people, I've become aware of how stupid a lot of these discussions are and how easy it is for people to minimize and reduce the importance of all of this. It's just drugs. It's drugs. Just drugs. It's everything. It's your consciousness, all of medicine, medicinal chemistry, pharmacology. This is not a niche subject of study. This is one of the most important areas known to mankind and has been for thousands of years are medicines. So just to get people at the very least, even if they don't like it, to acknowledge its value and to take it a little bit seriously and not just say, oh, drugs, just that stuff that drugies use, it's so much more than that. So I've recommended this, let's see, a few different pronunciations.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Think very carefully before making a plant illegal. That's one basic idea that I wanted to communicate. But then the other is these are real scientific tools. I've been on both sides of this discussion journalistically. I've had the opportunity to interview enormous numbers of people and to be interviewed many, many times.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The right thing to do with their lives. They really believe in it. So I thought, okay, with my understanding of chemistry, this would be a great opportunity to clear up a lot of the misconceptions regarding clandestine drug synthesis. That was kind of the most important thing for me to do. But then beyond that, I wanted to tell drug stories that hadn't been told and to present a basic case for understanding the value of these things. And there's a lot of different ways to do that. You can say that, look, this is valued by an indigenous group, and they've integrated this into their traditions and into their spirituality, and they really appreciate it. So maybe think twice before making it illegal because these people are not only not experiencing problems with it, it's making their lives better.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You can easily write an article about how psilocybin is good, and you will be congratulated for doing that. And I started thinking about what things can and can't be talked about and what can I talk about that no one else is going to talk about. And the main thing that I was interested in with the show is clandestine drug synthesis. That's sort of the thing that I feel is most widely misrepresented in the media are the people that run underground drug lab. So somebody at Johns Hopkins, if they're doing research with psilocybin, we're very eager to congratulate them for their work. But someone who's actually responsible for providing these drugs to the public so that someone can normal people can use them were eager to demonize them, even though they're risking their freedom to do that. And they're typically not bad people. In many cases, they're very good idealistically motivated people that do this because they think it's”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Do so much work. I mean, having some understanding based on our conversation, also just watching the show, you realize how much work it is to put something like that together. Why do it? I wanted to do it For a number of reasons. One is that I've always felt that Even there's a certain trends in journalism and that Certain things become demonized, and then everyone talks about how terrible they are, and then the public decides that that's truly the case. So right now, no one could write an article about opioids being good. You simply couldn't do that. It wouldn't be allowed. You'd be violently attacked.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Langlets, and he's a really interesting guy, MD PhD, you know, really. Very dedicated to understanding the subject, and he looks at it. It came out almost a decade before the Michael Pollin book, but it also takes a very different perspective on the value of a lot of the neuroimaging research. So I think it's a fantastic book. That I can't recommend enough For those that are interested in the historical and anthropological aspects of all of this, there's an anthropological For getting a sort of Wide historical and scientific view of things. I think he was one of the best for that. Great. I will put all those in the show notes for folks so you'll have links to all of those. Why put together the TV show? Why?”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There's one book that I think Hits all of those points you just made that's really fantastic. It was written by my thesis advisor, Nicholas Langlitz. And the name of the book is neuropsychedelia. It's an academic book. So it's not It's not as readable as maybe as Michael Pollin's book, for example, but I think it's one of the best books ever written about psychedelics, neuroscience and consciousness.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There's a chemist named Joshan. I believe that's how you pronounce it, Joshen Garts. And he published some work on this. You can see exactly how much variation he observed. There hasn't been as much research on it as I would like, but the general takeaway is that That these things are not homogenous. And if you're going into what is potentially a very profound experience, you really want to have that baseline confidence that I took this much of something. I think it really helps and is not to be underestimated.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Non LSD containing lysurgamide, it's like one PLSD blotter. I was working with a chemist friend on an experiment. And there's variation across the blotter. Then on top of that, there's different salts of these different things, these different lysurgamides. So you don't know how much you're taking to begin with, making the assumption that it's exactly 100 micrograms per blotter is a huge mistake. You have no idea. And the same is true of mushrooms. Even the same species grown on the same substrate, there can be variation in potency between two different mushrooms. There can be variation in potency across the same mushroom between the stem and the cap.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And just one more thing in that vein, that's the real tragedy of psychedelics right now is for a common person. They have access to two psychedelics, LSD and psilocybin containing mushrooms, and they don't know the dose of either of those things. You take one blotter of LSD, maybe someone told you that it contains 100 micrograms of LSD, but you have no idea. I have analyzed blotters of”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Figure out what works for you. And that's really important because these are serious experiences. There's a lot of uncertainty going into these experiences. At the very least, to have that foundation of I know what I took and I know how much of it I took is something that can't be underestimated in its value.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Then on top of that, they're often being prepared in one way or another that can make it even harder to know exactly how much is being consumed. And then someone drinks a cup of brew and they say, I don't like ayahuasca, it's too strong, or I didn't feel anything. I'm not sensitive to ayahuasca. And what's sad about that is you can't learn from the experience because you don't know what you took in the first place. Whereas if they had taken 45 milligrams of DMT freebase and a synthetic MAOI, then you could say, interesting. Maybe you're unusually insensitive to DMT next time, try 55 milligrams and work your way up gradually, and eventually you'll find the dose that works for you. And you can kind of troubleshoot the psychedelic experience. It doesn't need to be just, I felt it or I didn't feel it, or it was too much or it wasn't enough thing.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, I think that if there's one thing that is not talked about enough in the realm of psychedelics and drugs in general, it's dose, dose is so important to understanding a drug's effect, and it's often not even discussed. You know, people say, oh, I hated Aderall, I hated this, I hated that. I'll say, really, you hated Aderall? How much did you taking? And they'll say, oh, I don't know, a pill. Well, there's 20 milligram pills and there's five milligram pills. And which one were you taking? And it makes a big difference. It makes a huge difference. I mean, this is, you know, the toxicology is founded on this idea. Paracelsus' idea that the dose is the poison, that the difference between a medicine and a poison is the dose. And with plants, you don't have that luxury of knowing the dose. You simply don't. There's tremendous variability.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Root, there's often a lot of dogma, there's a lot of this is the way to do it, and this is what's traditional. And there's a little bit of discouragement of experimentation in favor of what is traditional. And that's fantastic because we have a lot to learn from these traditions without question, an enormous amount to learn, but I don't think we've figured it out. I don't think any culture has figured it out. am most in favor of anyone that is continually trying to push things forward, trying to see how can they be even better than they are, how can they, and that's maybe not a good mindset. Maybe it's better to just be satisfied. But this is, you know, maybe that's a scientific mindset. How can we change it? How can we make it better for people that don't like to vomit? How can we make it better for people that want a shorter experience or people that are sensitive to this or that?”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They have different properties and might be better for different things that we don't need to use these in a one-size-fits-all manner. So, for example, people often talk about ego death. I, for whatever reason, don't even like using these psychoanalytic terms when describing psychedelic experience. But for whatever reason, with DMT, it tends to be about me, about my life, my friends, my family, my associations. Feels more universal. It feels like this is an experience that anyone, my DPT experience could have been your DPT experience or could have been anyone in the world's DPT experience because it's not about me. It's not about my life. It's about life. And I think with the shamanic...”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's a complicated question. And there's a lot of aspects to it that I find slightly problematic. One is that plants are the be-all end-all. I think that plants are a wonderful starting place, and they introduce us to so many things. And maybe those things are the best. Maybe DMT is as good as it gets, but I've had the opportunity to try a number of different DMT derivatives MET, MPT, DPT, DIPT, and so on, NIPT, and a number of others. And what I can say about having tried all these different tryptamine derivatives of DMT is that”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But just in a sense you believe in physical reality as the ultimate be all end all, and it doesn't change that belief, but it gives me a sense that within that physical reality there is tremendous depth and beauty and so many things worthy of exploration.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, there's a very tangible value, which is that, you know, along with the visual distortions and the distortions of time and sense of self, there's often these very simple positive things that emerge, like a sense of love for my parents. That love for my friends, appreciation for being alive gratitude. A desire to work hard to use the time that I have on earth in a That will benefit other people. Basic things that sometimes emerge from the experience and to feel those things in a genuine way is fantastic. It's really good, especially if you are a somewhat cynical materialist person. And when I say materialist, I don't mean in the like a Sense of the word”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“A lot to do with them, so they become marginalized almost because there'shere else for them but the margins. What do you do? You can write an arrowid experience report and tell your friends about it and then that's the end of it. But the potential, of course, extends far beyond that. And these are really important tools for studying consciousness and in certain cultures or even in our own if you develop a framework to do it could be ways of treating disease or Having a spiritual type experience.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Part of it has to do with there being no place for it, I think. What do we do with Elvia experience of It's a little bit weird to even talk about it for a lot of people. So what do you do with it? It doesn't fit into any spiritual or religious frameworks in our culture. We don't have a framework for there scientifically, at least at that time it was barely studied. I think when I first used it, it may have been before they even understood that it was a kappa opioid receptor agonist or anything about it.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“considered it as frightening as they consider it now. There wasn't this fear narrative surrounding the substance. And I tried it and it was utterly amazing. And that was my first experience beginning to appreciate that these things were not only very different from the way they had been described, but to some extent they were not describable to begin with, that no matter who was describing them, there was going to have to be some degree of distortion. And it really was the sort of thing that had to be experienced. And then I started to understand a little bit more about culturally why these things are misunderstood and why they might have more potential than people realize.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Because for better or worse it was very available at that time in head shops, and so it was the sort of thing that high school students would talk about. You know, there's this stuff. It's legal. You can buy it in stores. You smoke it. It causes you to trip dramatically for a few minutes, and then you're back to normal. I mean, it's a pretty good sales pitch if someone's a 14 year old. And so I tried it. And this was also before.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I had, I went to a kind of alternative high school and there was also there a little bit of a sense that psychedelics didn't necessarily do people any favors. A lot of the people that use psychedelics weren't people that I wanted to be like. It wasn't the, I was a pretty nerdy guy. I was on the science team and certainly no one on the science team was using psychedelics. And so I was afraid of them and simply didn't use them in a major way in high school other than Salvia, which I actually loved. And although I was fascinated by them and their power.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But and he didn't, of course, and I didn't take the LSD, but I was aware that they had a certain power. My dad was very afraid of them. His child psychiatrist had written some medical papers about how damaging it is for people to use LSD as children. And so he had been very much influenced by his psychiatrist who had led him to believe that LSD was dangerous. So I would say pretty permissive attitude toward most things, but he really felt like he would say, you know, don't take LSD. Promise me you won't take LSD.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I was always aware of them. And always interested in them, even as a child. I remember there was a book called Buzz that was a sort of like... I think my school library had a copy of it, and it was an educational drug book. And they had a section about DMT in it. And I remember even as a maybe a fifth or a sixth grader thinking, oh, wow, this DMT stuff. It's called the, they call it the businessman's trip on the street. And that sure sounds interesting. And I remember I don't even know if this place still exists, but there is a shopping mall called the Garage in Harvard Square that grew up in Cambridge, and I remember a drug dealer approaching me at the garage and saying, do you want some LSD? And I said, well, I don't really want LSD, but I would like some DMT if you have that.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“If I didn't have experience working in a lab, I don't think I could ever care about chemistry as much as I do because you need that practical application typically to really dig deep into something.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Definitely get that. And then the other thing is I learn about things when I have a practical application for them. There's a lot of things that as an abstract idea don't have a lot of value. And I say this with some hesitation, but if you really want to learn these things, the absolute best way to learn them is to do chemistry ideally in such a way that you don't hurt yourself or other people or get arrested. But there's a lot of basic chemistry work like distillation that you can do. And it's a lot of fun to distill essential oils or to extract various things from plants. You know, you could extract piperine from black pepper or Or a number of different things, and that's not illegal, and it gives you a basic idea of how to do these sorts of chemical manipulations. Yeah, I mean, I think that”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“An industry has emerged to help all of these premed students who don't want to become chemists and don't find chemistry interesting to ensure that they can pass the class so they can go to med school, which is nice because the same isn't true for some other technical things. This is really purely a product of the pre-med requirement, I believe.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It just depends, I would say, on your basic foundational scientific literacy. I would say for most people that have Let's say high school level understanding of chemistry in the sense that they know about elements and things like that that should be accessible. Believe it's been a little while since I've looked at it. But I Remember it being pretty accessible. And then there's Khan Academy. that are very good as well. And there's a kind of an industry. There's actually a pretty big educational industry surrounding organic chemistry specifically because it's a class that's taken by a lot of people that don't want to be taking it because it's a pre-med requirement.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think This is a great time to learn anything. There's so many educational resources available to people on the Internet. So, you know, when I was taking organic chemistry, there are two books called Organic Chemistry as a second language, part one and part two. Those are fantastic, very well written, very clear, very accessible.”
2018-09-20 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #337: Hamilton Morris on Better Living Through Chemistry: Psychedelics, Smart Drugs, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT