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“And I think to myself, I always used to say that elsewhere we used to see Hasa Blagger every Valentine's Day because it was such an important movie to me because Paris was transformative in my life. We went to Paris every year during my vacation. We went to Paris. That was where she took some great pictures And so I always, even after Elsa's death, I've seen Casablanca twice now. She died in 2020. And I always think we'll always have Paris.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Spent the entire summer working. Supporting myself, the airfare and I earn money for room board. I thought about my life and I decided number one, I didn't want to be a physician, I wanted to be a lawyer. Number two, I didn't want to marry Carolyn. And I came back, I changed from pre med to pre-law. I broke up with Carolyn, who was by that time a school at Douglas right down the road from Princeton she had followed me. I had followed her. My life suddenly took a wholly different term. So that summer in Paris, Paris. Had an outsize effect of my life. Every year the Brattle Theater shows Casablanca where Bogart has this great line, he says we'll always have Paris.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And we moved to Maywood, New Jersey because he got a job in a first shop in Passaic, New Jersey. And a family physician had three daughters, the oldest of whom was my age. She went to Hackensack High School. I went to Pagoda High School. They're both in North Bergen County. And the idea was that She and I were going to marry. I was going to become medical school. I was going to become a partner of her father in his medical practice insecurity. When he retired, I was going to inherit the practice. This scenario was concocted by Carolyn's mother and my mother. In my sophomore year at Princeton, I won a fellowship to spend that summer between my sophomore junior in Paris. I was fluent by then I had taken accelerated French course. My freshman sophomore year. And I went to Paris. It was the first time out of the country.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But I don't think you have to necessarily go to a lead institution in order to really make it. You need to work hard. You shouldn't put yourself in a place where you're not going to feel comfortable and what's the word empowered. Like I refuse to. Take V Invitation for Tayushrak position at Harvard Law I'll tell you one other story that illustrates this. I was originally pre-med. My freshman four years at Princeton, I was in the pre-med program. Why? Because my parents. Wanted me to marry the daughter of our family physician. And the idea was I used to go to medical school. I was going to go into medical practice with him in Hackensack, New Jersey. Had moved from Brooklyn at the time. Long story why we had to move from Brooklyn had to do with my father's having a problem with the Furriers Union and having his life threatened.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Let me say this my father died at 48. He died because he smoked, he died at 48 because he smoked four packs of camels a day. He got a massive heart attack at 43. He continued to smoke despite that. He died at 48. So I did not expect to live this long because I thought it was genetic. It turns out it was cigarettes. So here I am. I'm going to be 81 on May 10th. I was born on May 10th, 1942, which is Mother's Day coincidentally. And I realize I'm not going to live forever. I also... Pride in the fact that I have demonstrated that a lawyer does not have to go with a law firm in order to manage to make it. You can make your own, write your own, what's the word, write your own ticket. Done that. I agree that I've had an elite education. I went to Princeton and Harvard Law School.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Anyone who tries to, for example, enlarge the court from nine to twelve in order to get more liberals on the court, then some other administration will try to enlarge it from 12 to 15 to get more liberals in the court. Constant fiddling with very important institution.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The Supreme Court is unfortunately fairly political. The current Supreme Court is overruling precedence, which it's really improper. And precedents should not be overruled so easily. It's about to overrule affirmative action. I'm opposed to affirmative action. I think I made that clear earlier in our discussion. Still, it's a precedent and it should be given some respect In order to In order to propagate a more conservative Agenda, the court is treating precedent as if it doesn't have any role. And that's a huge mistake. Some of the congressmen on the Democratic side are looking to enlarge the court in order to Basically, do what Franklin Roosevelt was not able to do. And that has changed the court's philosophy. But I think that's very short sighted because this is a long game. This is a republic we have here.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“To give that jurisdiction to the state has been completely thwarted. Because I can't think of a case where somebody doesn't use a telephone in the course of. Planning, discussing something that's arguably criminal. And so this limited authority, the federal government, Bring charges in criminal cases is illusory. Feds can indict a ham sandwich.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The problem is that under the federal criminal code Particularly the federal criminal code. It is very easy to be charged with a crime. Now, why? Under the Constitution, the federal government does not have plenary criminal jurisdiction. That's up to the state. How is it that the feds indict in so many areas of American life? It's because the Supreme Court has allowed the following absolutely insane situation to prevail. Anything can be made a federal crime if in the course of the commission of the crime. The means of interstate communication or travel are used. That means that if you commit a crime, which ordinarily would be a state crime, and you use the telephone or you send a letter Suddenly becomes federal. That means that the limitation that the founding fathers who wrote the Constitution intended to keep the feds out of daily life.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“wiretapping and electronic surveillance are very very intrusive And I think that the circumstance That these tools are used should be narrowed For example, they're used in a lot of drug cases. Since I don't think drugs should be illegal in any event, I certainly think that it's a terrible violation of privacy. To use wiretapping in a drug case. I could see it in cases of murder. Possibly in cases of serious extortion. But another kind of kinds of crimes with a wiretap, especially drug cases, I believe drugs should all be legalized anyway. I think the price we pay as a society is not worth it.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's that kind of process. They decide who's guilty and then they go about concocting a case against the person who they want to get.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's not financial corruption. It is corruption of the mission. And I think it should be abolished. And if we need a federal investigative agency, it should be a new name, a new culture, wholly new members, new director. And it's impossible to reform the FBI.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I have never seen a Form 302 that I consider to be accurate. The agents write down what they wish you had said, rather than what you said. It is a wholly corrupt organization that has not gotten any better since Hoover died.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They have a system when they come in and interview you. Show up, never won. Asks the question, the other one takes notes. The note taking agent takes notes and it goes back to the office and types up a report called a Form 302. Which is the official record of what was asked and answered. So when I have a client interviewed by the FBI, I show up. Always agree, almost always agree to the interview. But I bring a tape I say, all right, I'm going to take this. And they say, by regulation, we're not allowed to do the interview if it's taped. The record is the 302. The agent is taking notes. I say, well, I have a policy too. My policy is to never allow a client to be interviewed unless it's recorded. So it's unfortunate, but we're going to have to end this meeting, and the agents get up and leave.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Okay, I believe that the FBI should be abolished. I believe that its culture was so corrupted by its first director, John Edgar Hoover, J. Edgar Hoo It is impossible to reform the FBI, to make its agents honest. To force them to obey the Constitution, the first, fourth, and fifth Amendments especially. And it's a culture that cannot be changed. Hoover established the culture and no FBI director since has been able to change it. If you go online, I did on YouTube a video The ACLU of Massachusetts. It was when I was on the board. It was probably when I was president of the board. I was president of the board for two years. I was on the board for 20 years. And I did a video about advising people to never, ever, ever talk to an FBI agent when they come knocking on your door.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's one of the reasons I didn't accept Jim Vorenberg's offer to be part of the academic community. I mean, I represent professors, I have friends who were professors, I represent students, I have friends who are students, and I have a great regard for universities and higher education. But I was not about to become part of the culture. I thought that it was not good for me and not good for the institution either.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And they were all disappointed. Well, that was a memorable moment. And it told me that they were a little bit too overconfident. They were savoring being part of a presidential administration. Ambition had been thwarted. I'm not a great fan of preening ambition. I think it blinds people to realities.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It looked like Hillary was going to win, and the Harvard faculty members there were all celebrating, they were all figuring out what their cabinet positions were going to be, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then about 11.30 at night, all of a sudden it was announced in terms of electoral votes, Trump had just eked out of a victory that Hillary beat him in the popular vote, but he had won the electoral college. There was immediate depression.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Which he doesn't deserve. And a lot of it is pardoned the phrase political correctness. The better people are not supposed to be trumpers. I had an interesting experience about shrimp. I had two interesting experiences. The more recent one was I was in the house of Laura Summers, the former president of Harvard, who was driven out by political correctness, by the way, he insulted women biologists. I was in his house when he was. President of Harvard when the Trump Hillary Clinton contest took place. I was with Elsa. We were invited to Summer's house.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Absolutely right because these attempted process, for example, the prosecution, the one prosecution that has been brought now Alvin Bragg in the Manhattan, I have looked at that and I don't believe that Trump has committed a crime. And yet Bragg was pressured to bring that people in his office were threatening to quit if he didn't indict. Wholly improper, wholly unethical, and he's going to lose the case. Has Trump committed crimes? Yes. Most of their tax crimes. He has cheated on taxes his whole career, as far as I can tell. He could easily be indicted for state and federal taxes. But they're not as sexy. And I think that he's become a target. By ambitious politicians, ambitious prosecutors, he has gotten some sympathy.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And it was not only because he was my friend if he wasn't my friend, I think I'd have the same view. The holier than thou nonsense The hypocrisy of it. They wouldn't talk to Martha's Vin, though. Alan and I are different. I'm not so sensitive. If someone doesn't want to talk to me, no problem. No problem at all. But Alan is considering how controversial his life has been.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“By the way, I co authored it with my research assistant, who's sitting right here. Yes. I thought that the book was another example of the fact that everybody is entitled to a defense and that Alan's being involved with Trump was purely professional. It was not political. It was not philosophical. And I thought that the fact that he was being criticized, he was being shunned because of his connection to Trump, I found very interesting that this is a guy who represented such a call them distasteful figures as Klaus von Bulo. As Mike Tyson, as O.J. Simpson, as Sheldon Siegel. And when he was considered to be a skillful made his reputation? And then he represents Donald Trump, who, to my knowledge, never killed anybody. And he's suddenly shunned. I thought the hypocrisy of it, the political preening. Was very distasteful to me”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He thought it was not so much an ethical one. You have a right to represent mafia people, but he didn't want to be house counsel, he didn't want to be have them ask him for advice in advance of what they were doing. He was willing to represent somebody he won, no matter how awful. Klaus von Bulo was accused of killing his wife. These are pretty nasty people, but he didn't want to be house counsel to any of them.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Representative only in the first. He was successful in what Trump was impeached the second time he asked Alan to represent him. Alan has had a lifelong policy of only representing somebody once, never twice. Why? Because he never wanted to be house counsel to the mafia. And So he early on had this position only represented somebody once. The mafia wants a lawyer who's an in-house counsel who represents them in all their cases. So that's the reason. And Alan never publicly explained that I know it's a fact because I've known him from the day that we met at Harvard Law School in 1964. He was a first-year professor. I was a first year student. We both had Brooklyn accents and we hit it off. We've been close friends ever since.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You notice something that people don't understand about Dershowitz. He was asked by Trump to represent him in the second impeachment as well. He turned him down. Why do you think he turned down?”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Or is it Hillary? Yes, that's what he says, and I absolutely believe it. He's a liberal Democrat. But it's a criminal defense lawyer as well as a professor. And I've represented some very nasty people. In my career, I wouldn't go out for coffee with them, but they have constitutional rights to representation.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He's a criminal defense lawyer. And the job of a criminal defense lawyer is to represent accused criminals. He is a lifelong Democrat. He didn't represent Trump because he agrees with him politically.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, I think that words, unpleasant ideas as expressed by Rhodes are essential for communicating fact and truth and reality, and that's why I think that we should not whitewash language, we should not whitewash the fact that Jeffrey Epstein was pretty close to MIT. Harvard. And reality actually means something.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“See, I don't see it as normalizing. I see it as exposing. If more people had taken Montcalm seriously, Franklin Roosevelt would have acted much sooner. He only got us into the war, asked Congress to get us into the war when the Japanese made the mistake of attacking Pearl Harbor. But there were some people in the State Department, there were some people in the administration who were trying to get Roosevelt to see what Hitler was really like. And he was blind to it. And this was one of the greatest presidents of the United States ever had. He was blind to it until the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We want to face the world with reality. And the reality is that there is some unpleasantnesses in the world. Running from genocide right through to ordinary discrimination to offensiveness, it's the real world as we know it exists. Are we afraid to say it? We want to make people think that we live in a world where those words are not used, where those animosities don't exist? The answer is no.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Meaning. I thought to myself they could do the same about sexuality. They could do the same about religion. They could do the same about national origin. It would be demeaning no matter what. And the students actually. Verbalized how their race had either been a plus or a minus. They did, and I thought it was so demeaning, it just confirmed all of my distaste for this kind of approach.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Stories are fabulous. Let me tell you a story of I did a tour of the country visiting campuses. I visited a college called Hamline University, I believe it was in Indiana or Illinois, somewhere in the Midwest. I attended a freshman orientation. Now, listen to this. This was a freshman orientation. The administrators The deans and the DNAts and the deputy assistant deans and DNA, third deputy assistant deans and DNE's line the students up according to their skin hues. The blonde blue-eyed white folks were at one end. Darkest African Americans whose bloodlines had not yet mixed with any of the whites. The other end. And the exercise was you had to tell how your race affected your success in life up until that point. Thought it was the most demeaning thing that I could imagine.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“1985 And I went back to my law practice. I did not want to get into this meat grinder that I saw. After all, I started to see it before the turn of the century because I co-authored the Shadow University in 1998. And co founded Fire in 99. I was an early student of this phenomenon.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The student evaluations were fabulous. Why? Because it was really interesting. They were hearing a lawyer who talk about real cases. I actually brought in a few of my clients to some of the classes. And so Jim called me and said, Hori, the students love this course. I'd like to offer you a tenure track position. Law school, you'd have to give up your law practice. I turned him down. He said, Did you just say no? I said, Yes, I said no. He said, How come? He says, nobody ever, in my administration, has ever turned down a 10-year track offer at Harvard Law School. I said, because I could see that I'm not a good fit, that the administrators overrun the place, that faculty members, especially untenured, are afraid to say things that might not get help them in the tenure quest. It's not a good fit for me.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In the mid-1980s, I decided to take a four-month sabbatical from my law practice. Professor James Vornberg, who was at the time Dean of the Harvard Law School, heard about it, heard about it from his wife, Elizabeth, Betty Vuremberg, whom I was very friendly with because we were both on the ACOU, the ACOU of Massachusetts Board at the time. And Betty told Jim. Harvey was taking a sabbatical. Jim called Harvey and asked Harvey if he would like to teach a course at the Harvard Law School because there was nobody who had The teaching criminal law from the perspective of somebody who actually was in court litigated. It was all theoretical. Said, sure, I'll do it So I taught a semester at Harvard Law School.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Absolutely. In some of the most important discoveries in science, for example, were mocked at the beginning. Think of poor Charlie Darwin.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Hopefully, yeah. And those outliers have to be protected. They can't be pressured, they can't be fired, they can't be disabled from spewing their views, whether they're considered racist, whether they're considered to be promote an idea of human society that's considered obnoxious. It doesn't matter. If you can't have freedom of thought on the college campuses, where can you? Then we're lost as a society, we're lost. And as an educational institution, educational institutions no longer will educate, they will indoctrinate. That we have to avoid at all costs.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think a university has an absolute not relative, not worried, that absolute road obligation to protect academic freedom of even the most controversial faculty members. And you can imagine on a university campus you have more people who are outliers than you do in the general population.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In order to create real equality, you have to reduce the rights of the upper classes and artificially increase the rights of the lower classes. And that will produce Out of unequal treatment, true equality will be attained. This is nonsense. The idea of discrimination producing true equality is nonsense. My view is, as I've said earlier in our discussion, that the way to increase the opportunities for the lower classes is to give them real educations. And until we do that, it's not going to happen. And in order to do that, we have to overcome the problem of the teachers' unions at the elementary and secondary school levels. Until we're willing to do that honestly and improve those schools, we're going to have a problem of large number of uneducated people who need a boost because we haven't given them proper education.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, the problem with I'm a political liberal. The problem with the political left. Is that it has divided between what's called progressives and liberals? Liberals or people of the left who believe in the First Amendment, an absolute First Amendment, and in due process of law. The problem with progressives now in the pursuit of equality, what they view as equality, they're willing to bend those rules. And this movement actually started in Brandeis. It's the critical race theory. Started Herbert Marcuza, was a professor at Brandeis, and he came up with his theory. The theory was this. Now, this is right out of war, Will. In order to create true equality in a society where you have some downtrodden and some who are the Uber mentioned.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This is a crime to use one's power position in order to take sexual advantage of a student. It's a crime This is not a close question.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The university should not have a morals test. Whose money to take? I do draw a line about naming rights of buildings. And as I say, that's an inconsistency with my absolutism. But I just emotionally, I just can't deal with having, as I said, the Jeffrey Epstein Biological Laboratory.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Listen, I won't tell you the name, but I represented somebody in the MIT administration a few years ago who was charged with sexual improprieties against students. And as a lawyer, I represented that person. People said, how could you represent some of the people I represent are bad people? How can you represent them? I said, well, if I was a cardiologist and this person had a heart attack on the street and I didn't live a CPR, I would have my license taken away. I'm a lawyer. The only difference between my obligation and the doubtless obligation is the Constitution gives people the right to assistance of counsel. This constitution says nothing about the assistance of cardiologists. I have a very high duty to represent unpopular people. Well, I think I apply the same test to college donors.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, are you telling me that none of the students are evil? Are you telling me none of the faculty members are evil? Are you telling me none of the administrators are evil?”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think there is no alternative. I think that turning down donation because you don't approve of the conduct of the donor is a Pandora's box.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This is it. I am flexible enough to say that I don't think I would name a building after somebody who was truly evil. I think university has the right to limit the naming rights for a donor. If I was an absolutist, I would not even say that, but I'm not an absolutist. I have my limits And that's one of them. The Jeffrey Epstein Biological Laboratory, it's a little bit much.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Money is essential to run a university. One of the reasons it's essential is because the university is artificially, artificially, requires huge amounts of money, and that's partly because of the administrative army that they support. And they would be less dependent on the Jeffrey Epsteins of the world if they didn't have. So it's sort of all part of the same circle.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's why I say I would not give him naming rights. I think the university has the autonomy to not give naming rights. But I think giving morals tested donors is a Pandora's box.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I have a problem with universities making morals tests of donors because not every donor is as bad as Epstein, but some of the donors made their money in industry by being rapacious, by paying low wages, by exploiting people.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There are no conditions attached to it. I think it's emotionally complicated. I don't think that it is rationally complicated. It's emotionally complicated. It's particularly complicated if they want naming rights The Jeffrey Epstein Biological Laboratory, that would be a problem for most universities. I don't think that naming rights have to be given to somebody that you don't think is worthy of having their name. I think the university has the right to say, no, we'll take your money, but we will not name the building after you. I think they have a right to do that.”
2023-05-16 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #377 – Harvey Silverglate: Freedom of Speech · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source